Imagine the embarrassment of Swiss authorities when they discover that what this cleric was preaching was not “extremist,” but was mainstream Islam as taught in many other mosques in Switzerland. But by that time they will have far larger problems to worry about, in large part because of this same willful ignorance.
“Islamic ‘hate preacher’ to be expelled,” Swiss Info, November 23, 2017 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
A district court in canton Zurich has given a Muslim preacher, accused of promoting violence, an 18-month suspended prison sentence. It also ordered the 25-year-old Ethiopian to be deported and banned from re-entering Switzerland for 15 years.
The preacher was on trial for calling for the burning of Muslims who are not devout enough in their worship.
Police arrested the cleric in October of last year, after receiving reports of the controversial sermon delivered at the An’Nur mosque in Winterthur, in north-eastern Switzerland. The man is also charged with distributing pictures of executions online and of violating labour regulations by working without a permit.
“His religious views represent a danger to the public,” the prosecution told the court. But the defendent’s lawyer painted a different picture, saying: “He was merely an unsuspecting asylum seeker who had only been in Switzerland for three months. He is no fanatical Muslim.”
Controversial mosqueThe An’Nur mosque has long been suspected of radicalizing youth, with media reports saying some worshippers had travelled to Syria to fight in jihad movements. A police raid on the mosque in November 2016 also uncovered four suspected illegal immigrants.
Three months later, ten people were arrested following allegations that they had attacked and imprisoned two other people in the mosque who they believed had spoken to journalists….
The mosque’s governors have repeatedly rejected allegations of radicalization and links to terrorist groups. An Islamic culture organisation criticised the media last year of “inciting hatred against the mosque”….
elee says
Reading the DAMNED Koran is the most effective incitement.
James says
Exactly. He is not a fanatical Muslim, just a very ordinary one. That, O PC morons, churchmen, pols, cucks and other stupid-heads, is what “moderate” Mooslimeism looks like.
It preaches violence, hate and murder. Because the Koran and the Sunnah preach, and model, violence, hate and murder (and lots of other bad things, like crucifixion, slavery, stoning, child marriage, polygamy, and other civilisation-“enriching” delights. All of them coming to the West, unless this murderous cult is made completely illegal.
J D S says
Only happening “OVER THERE” Dont believe it…..All mosques should be monitored openly, and or undercover…One would hope that they are already being monitored by the FBI and Local authorities but the way the tide is flowing here in America…..we are riding the tide that flows from Europe.
Bodega says
I find it amazing that any country would let an Muslim in without reading the Qur’an fist.
JOHN FORBES says
THE WEST & WESTERN GOVERNMENTS ARE UTTERLY DETERMINED TO REMAIN TOTALLY IGNORANT IN RELATION TO THE NASTY HOLY BOOKS OF ISLAM!
VERY FEW IF ANY HAVE READ ANY OF THEM!
THEY ARE VERY BORING & CERTAINLY NOT ENTERTAINMENT MATERIAL & HUMOUR IS NOT TO BE TOLERATED!
THEY – HAVING TOSSED THEIR OWN FAITH INTO THE TRASH & DECLARED IT ALL MEDIEVAL NONSENSE – VERY ARROGANTLY BELIEVE THAT THE EDUCATED MUSLIM WIL DO LIKEWISE!
THEY ALSO HAVE MADE ASSUMPTIONS THAT IF YOU GIVE A MUSLIM A GOOD EDUCATION, JOB OPPORTUNITIES & A PATH TO A WESTERN STYLE FUTURE HE WILL — OF COURSE – BEHAVE!
NOT SO IT SEEMS LIKE MANY OF THE JIHADISTS & BOMBERS WERE UNIVERSITY EDUCATED & HELD JOBS.
AS THERE ARE NO SYSTEMS OR LEGAL ATTEMPTS TO EITHER CHANGE THE RULES OR EVEN APPLY THE RULES THAT EXIST THE BEST THING THE – COWARDS – CAN THNK UP IS :
STIFLE DEBATE
DENY THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE
INTRODUCE HATE SPEECH LAWS- WITH VERY SKETCH DEFINITIONS.
FOLD THE TENTS & RUN- & HIDE – THW SWEDISH MODEL & DENY EVERYTHING – LIKE A GOOD MARXIST!
WE ARE ALL IN FOR A VERY ROUGH RIDE !!
James says
Such zeal for ignorance and such passionate, vehement and persecuting insistence on being dumber than a box of tacks, is unbelievable. Wilful, blind, imbecility is not a gift of God, but a sin against the light.
Bob says
Our politicos dare not read the ‘holy’ koran – it’d upset their uneducated pre-conceived notions about islum and the wonderful benefit that they are to our society and economy!
makmorn says
If he had threatened the native swiss instead, he would have been welcome to stay.
mortimer says
– (Hadith) Some atheists were brought to “’Ali and he burnt them. The news of this reached Ibn Abbas who said: ‘If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostate forbade it . . . I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostate, ‘Whoever changed his [Islamic] religion, then kill him’.”
– Baidhawi’s commentary, Sura 4: 88-89 means: “Whosoever turns back from his belief, openly or secretly, take him and kill him wheresoever ye find him, like any other infidel. Separate yourself from him altogether. Do not accept intercession in his regard.”
– Mohammed commands the killing of apostates, and promises eternal rewards for doing so: “When I relate to you the words of Mohammed, by Allah, I would rather die than bear false witness to his teachings. However, if I should say something unrelated to the prophet, then it might very well be a lie so that I might deceive my enemy. Without question, I heard Mohammed say, “In the final days before Redemption there will emerge groups of foolish youths who will say all the right things but their faith will go no further than their mouths and will flee from their religion like an arrow. So, kill the apostates wherever you find them, because whoever does so will be rewarded on Judgment Day.” -Sahih Bukhari 9,84,64
– Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, spiritual leader of Muslim Brotherhood: “The Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali) as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence (the four Shiite schools of Az-Zaidiyyah, Al-Ithna-‘ashriyyah, Al-Ja’fariyyah, and Az-Zaheriyyah) agree that apostates must be executed.”
– Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi said: “If they had gotten rid of the apostasy punishment, Islam wouldn’t exist today.”
Dawn says
How many times have we heard Muslim Imams preach hate speech against Jews and nothing is done about but agsinst his own he is deported should have been done when things are said against the Jews.
Save Europe says
I agree with you totally, but atypically they also include all non Muslims in their hate-rubric…. Everyone non Muslim gets targeted, in all honesty.
Ruedi says
Also in today’s news, Switzerland deports a refugee who according to the newspaper ’20min’ is Pakistan’s most wanted “terrorist”. In other words, for a change Switzerland deports a real refugee who is Baluchistani freedom fighter who wants independence from Pakistan for Baluchistan.
20min speculates that Switzerland was pressured by Pakistan, and reports that recently Switzerland also gave an ad-hoc entry ban to another Baluchistani freedom fighter.
Somehow interesting how only the few real refugees get deported, never the Muslim ones.
http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/story/Schweiz-lehnt-Asylgesuch-von-Separatistenfuehrer-ab-27597716
His Twitter account:
https://twitter.com/BBugti
Obscura says
All guests of any category from Islamic cultures should have fingerprints and optical scans taken and written agreements to integrate and comply with the law of the land otherwise face imprisonment and deportation at their own expense if they refuse to integrate or commit any crimes. Sharia sanctioned crimes against non-muslims, non-arabs, non-males, non-heterosexuals, the non-devout, animals and other vulnerable groups needs to be very harshly punished.
The Koran should be treated as hate speech, criticized and ridiculed.
Save Europe says
Frankly I’d prefer it if there were no guests at all. Additionally, they can sign anything they want, but there is still taqqiyah, tawriyah and kitman.
marble says
What does it take for a healthy, intelligent, sane society to see that barbarians have come to its house with the purpose to burn it down with the residents inside?
Voytek Gagalka says
Expect campaign by the OIC against Switzerland starting very, very soon… Mohammedan victim-hood and usual “Islamophobia” will be main themes of that campaign.
Learning coran says
Muslims are to be merciful to one another and severe to the disbelievers, but it ain’t an absolute. Nothing could be more Muslim than killing other Muslims.
• The first Abu Bakr (with Khalid the Sword of Allah) was an expert at it. Most of the Rightly Guided Caliphs were gruesomely murdered by equally devout Muslims.
• Muhammad had a rival mosque burned down, intending to kill everyone inside. The history is a cannibal feast.
Sunan Abu Da’wud Volume 3, Book 40, Number 4744:
‘Arfajah told that he heard the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: Various corruptions will arise in my community, so strike with sword the one who tries to cause separation in the matter of Muslims when they are united, whoever he be.”
Foot note 4153, the English translator of Sunaan Dawud, Professor Ahmad Hasan admits that it is permissible to ‘cannibalize’ dissident Islamic group/s. He writes: ‘The Prophet (may peace be upon him) did not tolerate disunity and schism among Muslims. Therefore, he ordered that, instead of causing separation and disagreement in the community, it is better to kill the person who causes disunity.’
–Abul Kasem “Cannibalizing Islam”
Fitna, opposition or discord, toward Islam or within Islam, is worse than a slaughter. The Qur’an says so. Certainly, nothing un-Islamic about killing Muslims aligned with the kuffar and fighting the Caliphate.
“… Islam has a very fricking problem” (i.e. allah’s Qur’an) 10:4 ‘… boiling fluids’
simpleton1 says
, Posted under Virginia: Islamic conference decries US as “land of infidels,” says Americans should be “forced” to accept Qur’an but fits better here.
Muslims will kill there own, if they do not follow Mohammad’s practices.in mosque attendance and prayers..
Claiming to be a peaceful muslim
No more fanatical than Mohammad ? ? himself as –
Seems like the advice of Mohammad to “unsuspecting” muslims is to be taken seriously ! !
One ignores Mohammad’s “teachings” at their peril even though Mohammad did not do this. He just told them it is a good idea to burn others that do not practice the indoctrinating prayers and listen to the sermons…
Nominal muslims are considered to be apostates and to carry out Mohammad’s wishes.
With Mohammad’s teachings and practices being enforced, then there goes any idea of “intergration”
overman says
“Imagine the embarrassment of Swiss authorities when they discover that what this cleric was preaching was not “extremist,” but was mainstream Islam as taught in many other mosques in Switzerland”
This is the crux of the problem imo. This notion of ‘extremism’ outside islam [nothing to do with islam BS] is pushed everywhere by the apologists and all those in power accept it without question. This is the weak link that needs to be hammered at ’til islam is called islam – not ‘Radical or ‘Extreme.
simpleton1 says
Nominal muslims are considered to be apostates and to carry out Mohammad’s wishes.
Correction
To be a good muslim then one should burn the homes and nominal muslim with in.
Angemon says
But remember: if you even imply that some “asylum seekers” or “refugees” might harbour “extremist” views, you’re a racist bigot islamophobe who is literally Hitler…
gravenimage says
Switzerland: Muslim cleric who called for the burning of non-devout Muslims to be imprisoned, then deported
……………………
Good for Switzerland!
tgusa says
This cry’s out for a little of the usual ME tit for tat. When devout muslims burn non-devout muslims in return non-devout muslims should retaliate by burning devout muslims. Hey, it’s a sick sick war.
politicalqrm says
I don’t care whether they’re ‘devout’ or ‘non-devout’. They’re Muslims, they follow the koran.. If they want to kill each other, they should do it in the 57 muslim majority countries throughout the world.. They shouldn’t bring their fight to a western country.
However, if you look at it from their devious point of view: it could be a way for the ‘non-devout’ to get more sympathy from the western country they live in. And following ‘sympathy’ is more relaxed laws toward muslims…
I don’t trust any of them, considering there’s 5 ways a muslim can lie according to islamic teachings..
Joe says
“’His religious views represent a danger to the public,”’ the prosecution told the court.”
When Liberals think that they can get Muslims living in the West to become “reformed” and liberal over time, they can not stand it when the “devout” Muslims put fear in the hearts of those Muslims they think they are gaining success with. To them this represents a greater danger to the public than allowing Muslims to infiltrate their societies in the first place.
Cheer Bear Girl says
Devout Muslims are dangerous. Apostate Muslims are usually peaceful. It however is too risky to accept Muslims due to taqqiyah.
Maranatha says
At least Switzerland is charging and deporting so called hate preachers .Other Western Countries like Canada recently , not only don’t charge them , they also play down the incidents as a cultural thing .
Or look at England , a Western Country which is on record for having invited preachers who are so hardline that they were even banned in Pakistan . I could go on and on . By the way ,Trump was right to reetweet , that’s not incitement of hatered it’s showing reality .