The establishment media consistently only presents one side of the story in Myanmar, claiming that Rohingya Muslims are being victimized on a massive scale, despite evidence that many alleged army atrocities have been faked, and that Myanmar non-Muslims have been brutalized and murdered by Rohingya jihadists. Even in this story, the Washington Post does its best to portray the Rohingyas as victims, but the evidence of their jihadi bloodlust keeps coming through anyway.
“‘We are going to kill you’: Villagers in Burma recount violence by Rohingya Muslim militants,” by Annie Gowen, Washington Post, November 15, 2017:
SITTWE, Burma — The Hindu woman wept as she vowed never to return home, where she said Rohingya militants slaughtered her son, daughter-in-law and three granddaughters in August.
“They killed my family,” Halu Bar Hla, 70, said through tears at a camp for internally displaced people in western Burma. “I will not go back. I will die if I go back to my village. They will slit my throat.”
Hla’s account illustrates the complexity of the Rohingya crisis, in which Buddhists and minorities such as Hindus claim that militant Rohingya have carried out atrocities against them even as a brutal military “clearance operation” has sent 600,000 Rohingya Muslims across the border into Bangladesh.
The U.N. human rights chief has called the Burmese military’s crackdown a “textbook example of ethnic cleansing,” and Burma’s democratically elected government and Aung San Suu Kyi, its de facto leader, have been widely condemned during the exodus….
Interviews with monks, politicians and refugees in this port city demonstrate how difficult it will be for Burmese and Bangladeshi officials to come up with a plan for the Rohingya to return to Rakhine state. Leaders from the Buddhist community and Suu Kyi’s government deny that atrocities against Rohingya have taken place at all, saying that the refugees fled in fear after Rohingya militants attacked police posts in late August.
“The extremists incited villagers to go away saying the Burma army would come and kill them. They killed Hindus and other ethnic minorities. We could not find the death of any Muslim,” said Win Htein, a top adviser to Suu Kyi. “There is no genocide or ethnic cleansing.”…
At the same time the Rohingya fled, more than 30,000 Hindus, Buddhists and ethnic minorities were also displaced, with some fleeing south to Sittwe to take refuge in monasteries. In interviews, displaced villagers said they were afraid to return home because they feared the Rohingya insurgents whose attacks on police posts in their villages precipitated the crisis….
In 2012, the rape of a Buddhist woman by Rohingya men triggered widespread communal violence after which more than 100,000 Rohingya were confined to detention camps. At the same time, a movement of hard-line Buddhist nationalism gathered steam, led by radical monks.
Shortly thereafter, a group of Saudi-based Rohingya expatriates formed the militant Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army, or ARSA, according to a December report from the International Crisis Group. Its leaders eventually traveled to the area to recruit and surreptitiously train villagers in guerrilla war tactics, the report said.
Maung Oo Than Tin, 25, a Buddhist college student, recalled that one of his best school friends, a Rohingya, stopped speaking to him after the 2012 violence and later left the country. About three months ago, the former friend messaged him ominously on Facebook, “We are going to kill you.”
Grocery store owner Sander Moe, 25, a member of the ethnic Marma community, which also allegedly was threatened by militants, said she believed that most of her Rohingya neighbors joined ARSA last year after four village men were recruited to be local leaders. They trained volunteers in the woods and exhorted Rohingya to stop patronizing Buddhist businesses, causing her sales to drop from $20 to $3 a day.
She said locals made up the mob that attacked a police station across the street from her home in August, armed with long knives and grenades. In the crowd, she could discern the mullahs, a stocky rice farmer and even an 8-year-old boy. She and others fled to a monastery, which was besieged for several days before the villagers were able to escape to Sittwe.
She now fears returning home.
“I don’t want to go back,” she said, adding that she worries she may be raped.
The story of Hindu villagers allegedly killed en masse by Rohingya militants is more complicated than the experiences of others who allege violence by the insurgents. In late September and early October, government spokesman Zaw Htay repeatedly posted on Facebook about the alleged attack on Hindus by “extremist terrorists.” A group of journalists was flown to view 45 Hindus allegedly exhumed from a mass grave. Human Rights Watch accused the government of “playing politics” with the dead.
But now the survivors are languishing. More than 500 Hindus, including Halu Bar Hla, remain camped in squalid conditions under the bleachers in Sittwe’s soccer stadium. The government has not provided food rations since Nov. 2, they say, and they are surviving on rice donations from monks and other well-wishers in town.
Voytek Gagalka says
Will mere quoting of above article of Washington Post be considered as an example of “hate speech” and “Islamophobia,” too, particularly by fascistic “gurus” from Stanford?
Keith says
Most likely but they are just as much part of the problem as the Islamists themselves
John says
Agree
elee says
Hindus and Christians haven’t availed themselves of the high-powered propaganda, say nothing of huge U.N. constituencies, that the Muslims have. The Muslim holy book still says the lives, bodies and property are free for the taking by any Muslim, and affirmatively directs them to wage jihad. There will be genocides as long as there are Muslims.
Keith says
Why would the MSM treat what is happening in Myanamar any different to the way they treat Islamic terrorism in any other country?
We all know that after every terror attack the MSM, government and Police are more concerned that there is no backlash, even verbal, against the Islamic community whilst ensuring that non muslims are left wondering when, not if, and where the next Islamic terror attack will take place.
tim gallagher says
I agree totally, Keith. I’m staggered that so often the MUslims commit terrorist and other criminal acts, as they follow the instructions in the evil handbook, the Koran, and then there’s this garbage in the media about how the Muslims are in danger from some backlash against them. It’s incredibly annoying. The MSM idiots need to do a bit of study on Islam’s nature, realise that the Muslims are at war with all of us non-Muslims, and always have been, and get involved in the war and stop defending the vicious Muslim enemy. They need to stop defending and aiding the barbaric Muslim enemy in their war against all non-Muslims. Their behaviour is traitorous.
nicu says
German media collect donations for the ” poor Muslims ” not telling the background about all this .
I am Buddhist myself and it makes me sick – all these FAKE NEWS !
Januk36 says
And some of the Swiss media have been portraying the Rohingya as “the most persecuted minority of the world” in the past months. Readers seem not impressed though.
manat bint allaha says
a romanian buddhist?
who knew?
Save Europe says
I admire the Burmese for reacting. All the atrocities and rapes – it’s the same post-Cologne, Rotherham, Malmo – to name just a few examples. People have a breaking point.
Jayell says
Strange how we never got to hear of this in the UK! However, bearing in mind our experience of muslims here and elsewhere in Europe and the world, it struck me as a bit suspicious hearing about them as an apparently poor, oppressed minority at the mercy of the other ‘viscous, vindictive’ Hindu and Buddhist groups. It sounded too much like their own fatuous propaganda. Now we know that they were simply getting their just deserts, just as should be happening wherever these charming disciples of the Prophet have decided to invade and assert themselves – and it all makes sense.
overman says
There’s plenty on the UK [Fake] news about them. lt’s one big sob-story after another. Never the Buddhist or Hindu side of things [or perhaps they’re just hard to find].
Save Europe says
Some chap in a Pub, two weeks ago, compared their supposed plight to the Jewish people in Europe during ww2. I laughed then gave him the real truth.
overman says
l saw some crap about the Rohingyas on CNN today [All Fake media are pushing this]. Some brainwashed reporter was interviewing Rohingya’s crossing to bangladesh in the boats.
The headline across the screen said – ‘ROHYNGYA REFUGEES ARE THE MOST PERSECUTED MINORITIES IN THE WORLD’. l think the above article puts that fake news in a True Light.
This has been going on for years, leading up to the present situation. The buddhists have simply reached breaking point.
lndia won’t let them in because they know these rohingya’s have al quaeda and isis links.
This video might be a couple of years old but it foretold the present crisis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9a-SAtVcIo
epistemology says
Thanks a lot for that video, always lies about the Muslim victims. The victims are always the others.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Mr Spencer you are now happy that your co-religionists the idol worshiping Bhudists are committing genocide on Muslims in Myanmar. No wonder both Christianity and idol worship are being inspired by the Satan Christians Call Holy Spirit. He appears to filthy Christians like a dove and to idol worshipers with eyes inside eyes.
gravenimage says
Notice that on a story thread about Muslims slaughtering non-Muslims that Ibrahim itace muhammed is pretending that Muslims were killed by “Bhudists”.
Just more projection.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Ah yes, the well known genocidal Buddhists.
Isn’t it more likely that the constant fighting and attacks by islamist groups have simply pushed the authorities of the country to the point where they are now ready to do something about it?
The burmese/myanmar pushback against their local variety of mujahid is likely nothing to do with anyone being a buddhist or not. It is almost certainly about trying to rid their western provinces of violent and domineering people who can’t seem to settle down and just get along. Unlike for you, and many like you, for most people not everything is about religion.
It is a great shame that it is not simply possible to round up the ones actually doing the fighting. Instead, many probably normal people just trying to live their lives have been forced away from their homes. You have only your filthy islam to blame for that, because there is in islam the concept of unending jihad against unbelievers, and that includes never being able to stop fighting for land that is perceived to be islamic.
The sooner you realize how evil your koran and your idol of muhammad (peace will never be upon him, or anyone who follows him) are, the better for everyone, everywhere, forever.
I can only recommend you to learn about the true Jesus from the demonstrably not corrupted New Testament. There you will find some peace.
WESTPAC Spy says
Thank you, Ibrahim, for weighing in and revealing the evil at the heart of Islam. Your hatred of the “idol worshipers” is why the Muslims committed centuries of bloody genocide in the Indian subcontinent, where Muslims wiped out at least 80 million people between 1000 and 1500 A.D. Muslim generals used to compete to see who could pile up the tallest mountain of “idol worshiper” skulls.
There’s still a remnant population of Buddhists in the Chittagong Hills of Bangladesh but their Muslim neighbors are doing what Muslims do best. Committing unprovoked murder, doing their damn level best to wipe them out. That’s the only thing Islam has ever produced and exported. Death.
What did you expect to get for that, Muslim? A hug? A thank you? Or what the Buddhists are giving your coreligionists?
Enjoy it, Ibrahim. Your religion and its adherents’ well-deserved reward.
tim gallagher says
Great comment, WESTPAC. A perfect summary of the history of Islam. Says it all really. So Bravo. As for this evil clown, Ibrahim, surely he must have some idea, maybe only slight due to a lack of any human conscience, how evil the content of Islam is. As you say, “Enjoy it Ibrahim”, some justice for the Muslims is being administered by the Burmese Buddhists. Now if the rest of the non-Muslims in the world would only do the same, we’d finally be getting somewhere in the battle against the Muslim enemy,instead of tolerating the savage barbarity of Islam. Anyway, if there is an afterlife, the true God, definitely not the evil version of god Muslims have dreamt up, is no doubt waiting to deliver justice and punish Muslims for the endless evil they have done. They’ll get their “well-deserved reward” alright.
overman says
Your a Disgrace to the Human Race, lbrahim ltace.
manat bint allaha says
ibrahim, go home quickly.
your neighbor is in your house, eyeing your beautiful goat wife.
Save Europe says
Considering your Death Cult religion thrives on calls to subjugate and murder Infidels, I’m a bit confused as to why you’re attempting to appear all high and mighty. Please explain Muslim terrorism; grooming of underage girls across Europe and a rape epidemic against Kuffar women. Islam as a supposed religion is abhorrent and followers are GUILTY of endorsing the vile tenets.
martin says
Ibrahim itace muhammed says – most non muslms have no idea how hard it is to be muslim with allah proving in his own quran that he is not god, not the creator and ignorant istead of all knowing somany times.
We muslims pride ourselves on the cowardice needed to be muslim and how much being able to call evil holy and a weak corrupt and depraved character is attractive
gravenimage says
“We are going to kill you”: Myanmar non-Muslims recall jihad massacres by Rohingya Muslims
…………………
Yes–the media is ignoring the terrible Jihad in Myanmar.
gravenimage says
I should say, much of the media.
Kudos to the Washington Post fro covering this story.
dumbledoresarmy says
Indeed.
Perhaps jihadwatchers need to *contact* the Washington Post, and the reporter whose byline attaches to the story, and *thank* them for covering the other side of the story.
And refer them to Ibn Warraq, “The Islam in Islamic Terrorism’, to help them to understand exactly why Burma/ Myanmar will be better off if all the so-called rohingya leave.
Refer them to Konrad Elst and K S Lal for in-depth accounts of the ruination wrought by Muslims over *centuries* of invasion and occupation in South Asia.
dumbledoresarmy says
One might also send them the link for this brilliant essay by “Hugh Fitzgerald”.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm?blog_id=66591
Tuesday, 12 September 2017
“Reporting on the Rohingya: “The Tip of a Huge Iceberg of Misinformation””
A couple of paragraphs might be particularly drawn to their attention:
“The Western media have uncritically repeated the Rohingya claim that they have inhabited Arakan for many centuries or “since time immemorial.”
“Others beg to differ, among them a well-known historian, and author of many works on Burma, Professor Andrew Selth of Griffith University in Australia.
“He has stated categorically that the name “Rohingya” was taken by “Bengali Muslims who live in Arakan State…most Rohingyas arrived with the British colonialists in the 19th and 20th centuries.”
‘It is true that a handful of Bengali Muslims drifted down to Burma over the centuries, but Professor Selth makes the important point — unknown to Western reporters — that the vast majority of Rohingyas are recent arrivals, their great migration made possible by the fact that Burma was administratively part of British India until 1937, which meant there was no formal border to cross….”.
More – “In a 1955 study published by Stanford University, the authors Virginia Thompson and Richard Adloff concluded that “’the post-war (World War II) illegal immigration of Chittagonians [i.e., Bengali Muslims from Chittagong in East Pakistan] into that area [Arakan state] was on a vast scale, and in the Maungdaw and Buthidaung areas they replaced the [Buddhist] Arakanese.”..”.
More:
“…During World War II, the British retreat in the face of the Japanese led to a power vacuum, and simmering inter-communal tensions erupted, with the Arakanese Massacres of 1942, when 50,000 Buddhist Rakhines were killed by the Rohingyas in Rakhine (Arakan) state.
” In retaliation, the Buddhists then killed as many as 40,000 Rohingyas. (In another account, with much lower figures, the Rohingyas killed 20,000 of the Buddhists, who then killed 5,000 of the Rohingyas.)
“The origins of the mass killing instigated by the Rohingya Muslims in 1942 have a simple explanation: they had been left weapons by the retreating British, who had been assured that the Rohingyas would use the weapons against the Japanese. Instead, as soon as they acquired these arms, the Rohingyas attacked the Buddhists, mainly Arakanese, in Rakhine State,
“And after World War II, illegal immigration by Bengali Muslims “was on a vast scale.”…”.
(In connection with this flooding-in of Muslims from what is now Bangladesh, to historically-entirely-non-Islamic Myanmar, the Washington Post and its reporter could be referred to the Islamic concept of ‘hijra’, as discussed by ex-Muslim Sam Solomon, in his book, “Al-Hijra: The Islamic Doctrine of Immigration” – dda).
Yet more, from Hugh, the history that most who are currently reporting on events in Myanmar have resolutely refused either to investigate or, if they do know of it, are refusing to mention to their readers:
“And what the Rohingya did next also matters. In May, 1946 Rohingya leaders met with Mohammed Ali Jinnah, the Muslim leader who founded modern Pakistan, and asked that the northern part of Rakhine state be annexed by East Pakistan.
“Then, when Jinnah refused to interfere in Burmese affairs, they founded the Mujahid Party in northern Arakan in 1947. The aim of the Mujahid Party was initially to create an autonomous Muslim state in Arakan.
“The local mujahideen – that’s what the Rohingya warriors proudly called themselves — fought government forces in an attempt to have the mostly Rohingya-populated Mayu peninsula in northern Rakhine State secede from Myanmar (then Burma), and after that secession, the Rohingyas hoped that territory would be annexed by East Pakistan (present-day Bangladesh).
“Fighting between the Rohingya and the Burmese state, then, is not a new thing; it has been going on intermittently since 1947, and it was started by the Rohingya.
“The Rohingya revolt eventually lost momentum in the late 1950s and early 1960s, and many of the Rohingyas surrendered to government forces.
“The Muslim insurrection by the Rohingya did not end, but was revived in the 1970s, which in turn led to the Burmese government mounting, in 1978, a huge military operation (Operation King Dragon) that inflicted great damage on the mujahideen, and bought a decade of relative calm. (Note – a *decade*. Muslims are allowed to declare a hudna or ‘truce-treaty’ if too weak to prevail against the infidels; but this is not supposed to last longer than ten years… perhaps this accounts for the ‘ten year’ intervals in so many of these conflicts, whenever the infidels fight back sufficiently strongly – dda).
“But again the Rohingya rose up against the Burmese state, and in the 1990s the “Rohingya Solidarity Organisation” attacked Burmese authorities near the border with Bangladesh.
“In other words, this war on the Buddhist Burmese conducted by the Muslim Rohingya has been going on – waxing and waning – ever since that massacre of Buddhist Rakhins in 1942…”.
There’s a lot more. Annie Gowan of the ‘Washington Post’ might find it very enlightening; it would help her make sense of the things she has been hearing from HIndu and Buddhist refugees, displaced by this latest eruption of Jihad in Muslim-infested portions of Burma/ Myanmar.
LeftisruiningCanada says
On a slightly related point, has anyone seen this documentary on Jihad in the UK?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_usgevtEppg
It isn’t a great documentary imho, because the maker focuses on only marxist categories when searching for why young men choose to become soldiers for allah. It is however a source of interview with guys involved, and features some fantastic examples of muslim entitlement/victimhood mentality and, above all, lying for allah.
I mention it because the main guy featured is Abu Muntasir, who talks a little about his time helping to kill Burmese peasants with his fellow mujahidin.
If you listen to what he says, its obvious he is not all that upset about leading a life of murder in the name of islam, but that the purity of the jihad was marred by inter-muslim fighting in burma.
He also says that mohammad taught mankind to forgive…..
I have to say that he does strike me as a likable man, despite his involvement with such a detestable creed. We may hope for his liberation from the grips of islam.
Custos Custodum says
Note that Buddhist monks are providing rice to Hindus who are a small minority in Burma.
overman says
lndeed.
Jenny H says
And I’m positive no Hindus in Myanmar have murdered or are planning to murder Buddhists because of their religion, because Hinduism has a decent ethical code.
emmett says
They are providing ” AID AND COMFORT ” to the islamic jihad, that is called ” COLLABORATION ” and is punishable by death ! And I hope that I will have the pleasure of executing this human garbage !!!!
Northern Virginiastan says
Annie Gowen loves to mock Hindus. She picks up on silly stories. That’s why I call her the Jeanne Moos of reporters, but as someone told me, Jeanne Moos is actually funny.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
I think the Myanmar people are lucky. The government and army were able to clear the trouble out of their lovely country, and secure the border. They kept the lying media out of the country and the news cycles have been very busy to keep the story mostly out of view.
It sounds like the border has been secured with mines to finally stop this hijrah.
I suspect it is the will of God. God has decided that this evil empire will go no further (at least for now). Let the Mohammadin Bengalis live with their own kind.
Long live Myanmar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Myanmar#/media/File:Flag_of_Myanmar.svg
gravenimage says
Flavius, I don’t think the threat is over yet. But yes–at least the Myanmar government is attempting to protect their citizens.
JOHN FORBES says
YES, THE LEFT ONLY WANTS ONE SIDE OF THE TALES OUT!
REALITY IS THAT THE BHUDISTS HAVE ASO BEEN ATTACKED. tHESE THINGS DO NOT HAPPEN IN ISOLATION!
MIND YOU AS THE BBC CANNOT BE RELIED ON TO GIVE EITHER A BALANCED OR TRUTHFUL REPORT IT IS HARD TO SEE WHERE TO LOOK EXCEPT THE SOCIAL ALTERNATIVE MEDIA!
Matthieu Baudin says
It would be a reckless gamble to undermine the authority of the current civilian led ‘transitional’ government of Myanmar. The previous leftist Military Regime monopolised and exploited virtually the entire economy for nearly half a century and brutalised opposition groups and various mountain communities throughout that period. There is now an opportunity to make gradual progress on basic reforms to enable greater stability and hope for the Burmese People. The current foreign supported and financed Jihad in the country is a real violent struggle, a hot war. The worst outcome would be for there to emerge a permanent Jihad front line within Burma along the lines of the permanent clashes in the south of the Philippines or the line running through Nigeria or the hot lines of conflict dividing a dozen North and East African nations. In Myanmar, sanctions against certain individuals inside and outside of the military establishment may be justified, but the current civilian authority should be given the respect it deserves as a reformist newly democratic administration.
dumbledoresarmy says
ABove, I linked an essay written by Mr Spencer’s very-erudite Hugh Fitzgerald, who always knows where to look, amongst Old Books That Everyone Has Forgotten About, to find all the background info.
I will link it again.
I hope that Mr Spencer might send it to Aung San Suu Kyi herself. (He could, perhaps, if “Hugh” permits, allow her to know Hugh’s real name. Suu Kyi’s late husband Michael Aris was a *brilliant* British Jewish professor, specialising in all things Buddhist. I suspect that much of the broader history of the depredations of Muslims in historically-Buddhist lands, the ruin wrought by those Muslims, that is mentioned in this epic essay by Hugh, would have been known to Mr Aris… and, therefore, also, to Suu Kyi.)
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm?blog_id=66591
Tuesday, 12 September 2017
Reporting on the Rohingya: “The Tip of a Huge Iceberg of Misinformation”
MFritz says
There’s quite obvious an interest in Burma and that’s the reason why this conflict has been played up to this new level of violence. Most likely to take over the country and calling it a “humanitarian mission”. Especially the vicious propaganda against the Buddhist monks speaks VOLUMES.
emmett says
HAVE ISLAM HAVE JIHAD, NO ISLAM NO JIHAD !!!!
Peter Weber says
There are no “Rohingya”. The name “Rohingya” is neither a historical name nor the name of an ethnicminority in Burma. There was and there is no ethnic minority called “Rohingyas” in Burma. The so-called “Rohingyas”are illegal immigrant coming from Bangladesh. The “Rohingya” are invented people just like the “Palestinians” …
https://www.scribd.com/doc/24696819/The-Rohingyas-Who-Are-They-The-Origin-of-the-Name-Rohingya