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35,000 jihadists now present in the UK, almost two full World War II divisions

Dec 12, 2017 9:42 am By Robert Spencer

What could possibly go wrong? Diversity is our strength! The only problem is those greasy “Islamophobes,” i.e., foes of jihad terror, but Theresa May has done a bang-up job of keeping out the foreign ones and persecuting the ones at home.

“The tip of the spear 35,000 jihadists are present in UK, about two WWII divisions,” by Sumantra Maitra, Salisbury Review, December 8, 2017:

UK’s defence secretary Gavin Williamson said in an interview  that ISIS fighters and other jihadists who take up arms against the Sovereign should be eliminated. He said that they are legitimate targets for the military and that nobody who voluntarily joins an organization or a state which is at war with the United Kingdom, should be allowed back into the country. He’s not alone. Number 10 supported him, stating that this has been the official position for a while. His colleague Rory Stewart MP said a few months back that there’s only one way to deal with all British jihadists who take up arms against the Crown, that is by hunting them down as military targets.

This is a remarkable acknowledgement of reality, and one might wonder why it took so long, for something this evident. The outrage against this is similarly predictable from our liberal media and commentariat class.

It is time to acknowledge what has been blindingly obvious for a while. The United Kingdom, much like the rest of Western Europe, now faces an armed revolt. Like any other revolt ( the BBC likes to call it by the weasel word ‘insurgency’,) it shares the characteristics of armed combatants, sleeper agents in communities and mosques that are fertile breeding grounds for jihadism, the internationalist poisonous ideology which fuels it, as well fellow travelers, apologists in the media and academia, as well as those families of jihadists who are complicit in these crimes. Thomas Hegghammer in his 2016 paper in describing the common fallacy that poverty instigates jihadism, proved that it is not due to poverty or a colonial legacy, but simply one specific religion whose extreme elements are uniquely responsible for this turmoil. Hindus, Sikhs, Gurkhas, Japanese, Koreans, even Russians, are not raping and murdering people or mowing down 12 year olds en masse in the name of religion. According to British estimates, there are around 35,000 jihadists present in UK, almost equal to the size of two WWII divisions.

As Dr Cheryl Benard wrote in her provocative essay last year, there is no way these people will ever feel loyal to the land beneath their feet, nor to any of its values, history, or culture. Some of the extreme elements in these groups consider themselves as the tip of the spear of conquest. Many of their families are no different. It’s logically incoherent and puerile to think that families which voluntarily left Britain to join the Islamic Caliphate, even after knowing what perversity and brutality takes place there, and extensively documented in the international media and on the internet, will someday come back and feel assimilated to this society. They will never do that, and it is time to accept it and get on. That is not to say everyone from one particular religion is an enemy of the state, of course not. But those who voluntarily declare war against their host society, are enemy combatants and should be treated as such, akin to any British fascist supporting the Nazis during second world war….

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  1. mortimer says

    Dec 12, 2017 at 9:44 am

    If a charismatic leader inspires the UK jihadists, the UK will not have enough police. There will be another civil war in England over religion.

    The Islamic viper will eventually strike very savagely at England and then the Islamic anaconda will crush the life and soul out of the country.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 12, 2017 at 8:31 pm

      Surrender, Infidels!

  2. mortimer says

    Dec 12, 2017 at 9:45 am

    “Love does not conquer Islam.” – Bill Warner, PhD

    • Infidel says

      Dec 13, 2017 at 2:05 am

      This is one of the BEST STATEMENTS reg Islam and HATS OFF TO DR BILL WARNER!!! What a genius! He said it all in those 5 words…

    • John S., Obeda says

      Dec 13, 2017 at 5:36 pm

      Well, friends, Dr. Warner and Mortimer and infidel, here’s my thought: the saving Gospel of Jesus, the good news that the suffering and death and resurrection of Jesus from the dead by which He won the forgiveness of our sins and won for us eternal life THAT GOSPEL MESSAGE when one is blessed to believe it, converts the misguided Arab and he will depart far away from Muhammad. SO, God’s love for us and my love for the Muhammadan which I show by telling Him the Gospel converts the Islamist if he believes the message. BUT, as is often expressed here, giving the pagan Muhammadan free housing and all kinds of free stuff – this kind of “love” – of course, will not in itself make him a faithful citizen which is being proven time and time again. So, it is true that “love does not conquer Islam”, but if the Islamist will listen and be converted, then God’s love is at work in his heart and that individual, at least, is conquered. I would think that the three of you would agree.

  3. WorkingClassPost says

    Dec 12, 2017 at 10:41 am

    Maybe we can give them jobs hunting down islamophobes, then the police could do more intercommunal coddling.

  4. Michael Copeland says

    Dec 12, 2017 at 11:00 am

    “What a fantastic contribution muslims make to this country!”
    David Cameron

    • LeftisruiningCanada says

      Dec 12, 2017 at 6:28 pm

      Depends what he wants though, right?

  5. DFD says

    Dec 12, 2017 at 11:40 am

    35,000 ???

    Do you mean London or the England? Or the ENTIRE UK?

    OK, OK, I didn’t read the whole article – the pic of sharia-may was enough to….

    • LeftisruiningCanada says

      Dec 12, 2017 at 6:29 pm

      I think they just mean Tower Hamlets.

  6. Frank says

    Dec 12, 2017 at 12:17 pm

    How did it happen? Why are Muslims flooding into Christendom? Don’t blame the wars! These people could have went to Muslim Nations. Instead, they were organized by ?? and sent into Europe. The political class from the UK to the Netherlands betrayed their citizens. Civil War is not only inevitable, it is the duty of Christ’s followers to rise up and slaughter the Muslims who are in their lands to conquer them for Islam. Hang your politicians who supported migration for treason. Then, make laws to ensure this can never happen again.

    • phillip hurley says

      Dec 12, 2017 at 1:35 pm

      i couldnt put it better myself

    • David M says

      Dec 12, 2017 at 7:25 pm

      Hopefully those 35,000 jihadis will combine & attack Parliament, & take out the very traitors who let them in, while being killed themselves in the process. What a lovely dream……

    • LeftisruiningCanada says

      Dec 13, 2017 at 1:13 pm

      “Why are Muslims flooding into Christendom?”

      Because it is no longer Christendom Frank.

      If it were, people would still be on guard against the evil that is islam.

      Instead, everything is weighed used marxist scales now, and islam produces so many poor and needy people who feel entitled to everything the world can give them.

  7. Bill says

    Dec 12, 2017 at 12:17 pm

    May would rather criticize President Trump’s tweets, while her coddled Islamic terrorists plot to blow her up. She is a traitor to England along with most other politicians. By the time the majority of English citzens figure that out, it will be too late. Perhaps it is already.

    • DFD says

      Dec 12, 2017 at 2:02 pm

      I am DEEPLY, FU… WORRIEd you are right

  8. Peter Clemerson says

    Dec 12, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    “According to British estimates, there are around 35,000 jihadists present in UK, almost equal to the size of two WWII divisions.”

    Robert, what is the source of these estimates? I am not challenging the figure: I ask because the alarming headline for this article should be backed up with the relevant evidence. It can then be quoted in other contexts by those of us who are alarmed. We need to have confidence in the figure if and when challenged.

    • Peter Clemerson says

      Dec 13, 2017 at 5:21 pm

      Here is a reference to a useful source if anyone is interested. I googled “35,000 jihadists present in the UK” and among other site addresses was presented with https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/huge-scale-of-terror-threat-revealed-uk-home-to-23-000-jihadists-3zvn58mhq

      To read the entire article, you have to register but this is not necessary to see the most important points. As you can see, this site mentions 23,000 rather than 35,000, but with this sort of number, it hardly matters. 3000 of these apparently merit constant monitoring.

      All the sites that google presented that explicitly mentioned the 35,000 number seemed to be quotations of Robert’s wording as they also mentioned the two WWII divisions comparison.. I still do not know the origin of the 35,000 number.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 14, 2017 at 1:21 am

      The link is to the Salisbury Review.

      • Peter Clemerson says

        Dec 14, 2017 at 1:48 am

        To gravenimage

        Yes, the Salisbury Review article at http://www.salisburyreview.com/articles/tip-spear-35000-jihadists-present-uk-size-two-wwii-divisions-sumantra-maitra/ does indeed carry the headline mentioning 35,000 jihadists but does not back that figure up in the article underneath, nor does this figure appear in the article reporting the speech of the British Defence Secretary to which the Salisbury Review article provides a link.

        I pursue this issue only to make the point that anyone quoting or citing Jihadwatch needs to be confident of the accuracy of any figures mentioned. Someone challenged to justify the figure 35,000 could not do so, in my opinion. The difference between the 23,000 figure I quoted from The Times and the 35,000 figure from an unsupported headline is more than hair splitting. The Times figure reportedly comes from “Whitehall sources” which can be defended much more confidently than an unsupported headline.

        But thanks for the link, anyway.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 14, 2017 at 1:53 am

          I’m afraid you are right, Peter. Not sure where the Salisbury Review got this figure, since they do not refer to it in the article.

  9. gottahavehopehope says

    Dec 12, 2017 at 5:39 pm

    We better wake up soon where I live mosques are springing up every where ! ! And I live in Illinois ! We are truly messed up with this politically correct indoctrination !

    • Mike says

      Dec 12, 2017 at 7:44 pm

      Ah Illinois…. playground of the Obummer clan.

    • Infidel says

      Dec 13, 2017 at 2:15 am

      Man.. IL too??? This is truly a global cancer ..Those gentle Midwesterners.. U have no Fcking idea as to how this cancer will gobble U up in NO TIME!!!

  10. gravenimage says

    Dec 12, 2017 at 8:30 pm

    35,000 jihadists now present in the UK, almost two full World War II divisions

    What could possibly go wrong?
    …………………

    I have nothing I can add here…

  11. Matthieu Baudin says

    Dec 12, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    “… those who voluntarily declare war against their host society, are enemy combatants and should be treated as such…”

    And that means not only should they be tracked through military intelligence and engaged militarily but they should also be tried in military courts and sentenced to serve time in military jails; tried and executed for the murder of civilians. The role of the police in dealing with violent Jihadists should augment and be subservient to the primary role and responsibility of the Armed Forces Command.

    • Lu says

      Dec 13, 2017 at 1:01 am

      Not so fast …

      http://www.crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-in-action/bria-21-1-b-detaining-u-s-citizens-as-enemy-combatants

      It looks like the obvious, i.e. we are at war with the Islamic state and everybody pledging allegiance to it plus warring against us is an enemy combatant, is not so obvious at all.

  12. Lydia says

    Dec 12, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    And war is exactly what they are there for.
    What a coincidence.

  13. Arthur says

    Dec 13, 2017 at 2:36 am

    bring them more, give them more council houses, more benefits
    let taxpayers pay for it

  14. Thomaspj Poovathinkal says

    Dec 13, 2017 at 6:08 am

    Most of the POLITICIANS (COWARDS) all over the WORLD have been mating with the DEVIL and the people…..ARE looking for GOOD results!

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