This is a completely false statistic, designed to foster ignorance and complacency about the nature and magnitude of the jihad threat. And the establishment media repeats it, or variations of it, relentlessly. Here is why it is false:
1. It misleads immediately by covering only the last ten years. Why that period? What changed between 2006 and 2007? Why not go back 20 years? Because then the survey period would include 9/11, and would show Islamic jihad terrorists killing many, many more people than “right-wing extremists.” So they start it at a point that suits the data they want.
2. Counting the number of people killed by each group doesn’t take into account failed attacks, such as that of the New York subway jihad bomber last week. Nor does it include foiled plots.
3. Islamic jihad terror is an international movement, with jihad groups all over the world. White supremacism or “right-wing extremism” isn’t.
CBS News is a propaganda outlet for the left, not a news source.
“Rejecting hate, after spending nearly a decade spreading it,” by Scott Pelley, CBS News, December 17, 2017 (thanks to George):
Terrorism has come to mean Islamic extremism. But the fact is, since 9/11, more than twice as many Americans have been murdered by white supremacists. This threat exploded into view this past August when a protest aimed at a Civil War monument in Charlottesville, Virginia ended with one dead and 19 injured. No one understands the white supremacist movement as well as Christian Picciolini. He knows it because he helped build it. This is the story of an American terrorist — his long journey to redemption — and his struggle now to lift others from the depths of hate.
Scott Pelley: You hated black people.
Christian Picciolini: I thought I did.
Scott Pelley: You hated Jews.
Christian Picciolini: I thought I did.
Scott Pelley: You wanted to kill them.
Christian Picciolini: At that time, I did.
Christian Picciolini was not born to hate. He was taught. His education began in the Chicago suburb of Blue Island. He was 14, at odds with his Italian immigrant parents and lost.
Christian Picciolini: I had been bullied and picked on for, you know, everything from my name to my short stature, to my parents not being able to speak English very well. And I just never fit in.
And one of Picciolini’s neighbors was a national figure in the neo-Nazi movement.
Scott Pelley: When you first met this man in the alleyway and then the rest of the skinheads in that town, what was it that they were promising you?
Christian Picciolini: They promised me paradise. They promised me that they would take me out of whatever hell I was living in, whether that was abandonment or marginalization and to a degree they delivered. They did give me a new identity. I was now this powerful person. And they gave me a community that accepted me.
That community was a racist gang with its own culture and its own music. That’s Picciolini with a song that he wrote called “white power.”
Christian Picciolini: The music gave me very specific focus on what was happening to me and it was trying to give me the answers of why that was happening.
Scott Pelley: And what were those answers?
Christian Picciolini: Those answers were that everybody was against me as a white man that I was being intentionally ostracized and that diversity was a code word for white genocide and that if I didn’t protect my proud European heritage that we would be wiped out.
“The truth is, I’d never met or had a meaningful dialogue or engagement with anybody that I thought I hated.”By the time he reached Eisenhower High School he had turned to violence. On his last day there he beat up the same black student twice.
Christian Picciolini: And I was brought down to the office, and to the principal’s office who was also a black woman. And in that office, I got in a very heated physical argument with the security guard, Mr. Holmes.
That’s security guard Johnny Holmes, who has never forgotten what he saw in the principal’s office that day.
Johnny Holmes: She put her arms around Chris, he said, “You black bitch. Get your filthy hands off of me.”
Christian Picciolini: There were some words that I said to the principal that were not very kind. In fact, they were disgusting and very racist.
Johnny Holmes: Then he turned from her to me. And he started to poke me in my chest like this. And he went on to say that how he lived to see the day where a n—– was hangin’ from every light pole in Blue Island.
Christian Picciolini: And he really got in my face to try and stop me and subdued me until the police came. And the police arrested me.
Picciolini was expelled for the sixth and last time. Which only made him more committed.
Christian Picciolini: That is me, in 1994, looking very much like somebody who is a terrorist. I am at this point, the leader of an organization of skinheads and the people standing behind me are my soldiers, people that would have done anything for me.
Scott Pelley: And that last picture? Where are you?
Christian Picciolini: I am standing in front of the gates of Dachau Concentration Camp in Germany.
Dachau, where an estimated 41,000 were murdered. Mostly Jews.
Scott Pelley: What are you thinking?
Christian Picciolini: I was thinking that I wanted to burn the world down because I was so angry at it.
The anger led Picciolini to recruit dozens of new members and unleash them on a campaign of assault, vandalism and burglary. The violence reached its peak one night when Picciolini and his ‘soldiers’ chased a black man out of a restaurant.
Christian Picciolini: We caught that individual and we proceeded to beat him brutally. And at one point when I was kicking him on the ground and his face was swollen, covered in blood, he opened his eyes and they connected with mine. that was the first time I felt empathy for one of my victims. And that was the last time I hurt anybody.
It took years from that moment for Picciolini to turn around. His wife and children left him. He went through five years of depression. But ultimately, he says, his anger began to cool he says as he was confronted by kindness — blacks and Jews who refused to return the hate.
Christian Picciolini: The truth is, I’d never met or had a meaningful dialogue or engagement with anybody that I thought I hated. And when they took the step to try and reach me, the demonization of them that I had in my head started to crack.
20 years later, 44-year-old Christian Picciolini is making amends. He participated in a United Nations Peace Conference in Geneva. In the U.S., He trains police, the FBI, and Homeland Security in the mindset and tactics of the white supremacy movement.
“The data tells us this, 74% of extremist-related killings in this country in the last ten years have been carried out by right-wing extremists, not Islamic extremists.”
Christian Picciolini: You know 30 years ago we were skinheads. We wore swastikas and shaved heads, and you could identify us pretty easily. So we decided at that time to grow our hair out, to trade in our boots for suits and we encouraged people to get jobs in law enforcement, to go to the military and get training and to recruit there.
Which is why it was hard to spot the racists amid the violence of Charlottesville.
Oren Segal: So Charlottesville is a seminal moment in this country for hate.
Oren Segal tracks the white supremacist transformation as director of the Center on Extremism at the Anti-Defamation League. The ADL trains law enforcement officers in 250 agencies.
Oren Segal: You know, look no further than Charlottesville. One of the lasting impressions people have are these white kids with polo shirts and khaki pants. Almost looked like a fraternity scene. But they’re holding tiki torches, and they’re talking about how the Jews are responsible for the ills of this country. They’re racist. They’re anti-immigrant. They’re misogynist. But they look like our kids. That’s the changing face of hate in this country.
Scott Pelley: Since 9/11, the country has been focused on radical Islamic terrorism, but what do the facts tell you?
Oren Segal: The data tells us this, 74% of extremist-related killings in this country in the last ten years have been carried out by right-wing extremists, not Islamic extremists.
Scott Pelley: Including white supremacists.
Oren Segal: Yes. So white supremacists, in particular, have been responsible for a majority of the killings, even in the last ten years….
11braggot says
I saw the advertisement for this particular episode before it aired last night and all I could think was here we go again with the lies….to deflect from the real truth….classic example of yet another attempt to brainwash the masses into a mind-set of “perhaps Islam isn’t really that bad after all.” Typical mainstream filth nothing new just wonder when people will call this for what it is…bull****.
KRJ says
For some reason they want us all to be led to the slaughter unarmed and like sheep believing their narrative.
terry says
The reason is Satan.
David Conell says
This tactic of CBS is what’s called ‘Draw your curve, then plot your data’.
connie says
the first curve, they dont allow islamic terrorists to be called ‘extremists’…..
wool says
Shut up your trap,in human history, White extremists killed millions innocent Jews and Christians people.
William Hayes says
Are you saying that “White Extremists” killed millions of innocent Jews and Christians who look like Brown Muslims, due to Muslims having killed millions of innocent Jews and Christians? Or are you smoking cocaine-laced marijuana?
kathleen T Quinlan says
Good one!
mummymovie says
I’m so glad you printed this.
I had to sit, enraged, in mykitchen and listen to this propagandize distortion of the truth, and the “since 9/11” distortion was the first thing I noticed… leading all the way up to Charlottesville, of course, and omitting many important facts and stats along the way.
60 Minutes has turned into nothing but a garbage left-wing, jihad enabling waste of airtime. This is not journalism; this is not news, just unadulterated propaganda.
Very frustrating.
Jaladhi says
Who can believe these MSM liars – memo to these idiots – common men do not believe them! Morons are constantly trying to deceive people by their lies but are failing miserably! It’s the jihadi Muslims, stupid!!
Older Canadian says
So now when I see a clean-cut polo shirt wearer white guy I should assume or suspect he is a white supremacist in disguise.
The media really is intent to drive the last nail in the white male coffin.
Kay says
Yeah, I noticed that, along with the casting of aspersions on the police and military.
People believe it though. Most people I know do.
gravenimage says
Yes–Leftists love to smear police and military personnel.
mummymovie says
WHY?!?!?
Why do they keep propping up islam -time and time again- trying to distract from the real thing that threatens us?
That’s what airing this horse sh*t is all about- protecting islam and enabling jihad terror.
I just don’t understand the motivation.
It’s downright treasonous!
Why, CBS, why?
Paul N Silas says
It’s all true, 60 minutes never tells a lie. Last week I was in a local Walmart and saw an “evil” White Male wearing a camouflage hat yelling “Yippee Cay Aye” and trying to grab all of the beef jerky in the dang gum store! His tattoo said that he was once a member of the 101st. Airborne Division.
I believe that he was a member of a dreaded “Southern Baptist ” terror group.
sarcasm
gravenimage says
🙂
Charles says
So be it. There are right wing ideologies that are dangerous and need to be addressed, and they most certainly are in the media. The KKK, for example, must account for the explicit racism in their charters. We hold them accountable all the time. Then the media seems to excuse and cover up the analogous charters of Islam by misguided statistical comparisons. One could argue that the statistical proportions and ratios of terrorism versus demographic, disclose a very different picture. But then, we are focussing on minutia rather than issues of ideology? The real issue is, ANY charter that exhorts violence against non-members on the pretext of ingroup versus outgroup is unacceptable. The written charters, imperatives and exhortations in original Islamic texts are every bit as violent and unacceptable as those written in the KKK manifestos. If I disavow the KKK will Muslims disavow Islam?
Veracious_one says
Muslims routinely kill more people in one than the KKK has in the last 50 years….
Veracious_one says
s/b in one day…..
Terry Gain says
Indeed. According to 60 Minutes there are all these attacks by right wiing extremists that, curiously, the left wing media doesn’t report.
wool says
Shut up you nazi,if you your history you are the one who killed millions people.
gravenimage says
Muslim apologist “wool” is pretending that Charles is a Nazi, when of course his post said no such thing. But then, this poster regularly slanders Anti-Jihadists, so this should not surprise.
Tjhawk says
Excellent analysis Charles. I particularly like the part about:
“ANY charter that exhorts violence against non-members on the pretext of ingroup versus outgroup is unacceptable.”
I’m going to use that if you don’t mind. It’s simple, and almost anybody I talk to would agree to it. Then you can gently encourage the outrage that is currently reserved for the KKK and try to have it directed towards islam as well.
Phil Copson says
A 3-year old knows what a 30-year old doesn’t: that any idea that involves killing those who don’t agree with you has something deeply wrong with it.
Shmoovie says
Agreed.
This is where media runs
into some problems…they can’t point to a single source for mindless killing by non-muslim maniacs– and won’t, for the muslim ones. And they’re ready with all ‘nothing to do with’ excuses for the latter.
Recall when media tried to attach racists to the Tea Party, who wanted nothing to do with miserable malcontents like this Picciolini was.
CBS & co. have to start coming up with more examples than Charlottesville and they know it.
Repeating myself and others– how WARPED must one be to be anticipating a next attack, hoping to back their theory of masses of deadly, preferably Christian right-wingers lurking out there.
gravenimage says
I find the KKK reprehensible, and they have a very ugly history. When is the last time they killed anyone, though?
Charles says
Long, long ago I used to be a regular viewer of 60 Minutes.
But I haven’t watched the program for over 20 years! The damn show just got way too politically correct for me!
The mass media have been covering for and enabling the mass muslim takeover for nearly that long!
Media imbeciles aside, TRUE AMERICANS will fight for this land! We shall never bow our knee to SATAN! (allah).
cyrus basile says
allah not Allah Aa
CRUSADER says
Glad I missed it this time.
Now, back to the Opioids….
underbed cat says
I have not watched 60 minutes for a long time, same old stuff but I record it, I saw this report about “white supremacists” from the FBI ,,,,,,what is my guess is that the FBI since it has been compromised with the mb’s influence or Saudi money influence on how to determine terror attacks meaning it’s either” Jewish or the privilege white”, but never a doctrine of Islam problem….which only … knows. There was a MB that “cared” not and requested to purge the words that identify of the problem that would identify the roots of Islamic terror to the doctrine….so the FBI had a word purge demanded that “The 9/11 Commission Report” the book which I have, be edited and redone and remove the information about Saudi Arabia and the doctrine of Islam,. And everyone else compromised fell in to silence the coup……so that is what I saw when I watched this episode I think the Nazi youth movement was ineffective and small and a town in Illinois let them march and people just ignored it. …..
underbed cat says
Just a side note, truth is slander in Islam, terrorists are all non believers, and the doctrine of Islam is war against the non believers and treaties are only temporary at best, and not allowed if the jihad is getting weak. Fighting islamic terror is forbidden and against sharia law.
underbed cat says
If the Chicago mayor wants the U.N. to send troops into Chicago…..the UN has a majority sharia law countries and that would be a threat to the non muslims and people of the Illinois….one crazy idea.
Kepha says
Underbed: The news about Chicago to which you respond shows us all just how foolish the Left is. UN Peacekeepers? The same outfit that raped its way across the eastern Congo and Central African Republic?
gravenimage says
That insanity is here:
“Bring in the U.N. to solve Chicago ‘genocide,’ Boykin says”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chicagoinc/ct-met-boykin-un-1215-chicago-inc-20171214-story.html
Never mind that this “genocide” is self-inflicted black-on-black crime, and has nothing to do with any actions from President Trump.
Incidentally, I don’t think the Cook County Commissioner really wants this–he is just publicly twitting Trump, which I’m sure he considers much important than actually solving Chicago’s problems.
Just as well, though, considering the wide-spread rape and abuse from UN “Peacekeepers”.
underbed cat says
Islam is not a race, it is an ideology..
pfwag says
If so, then how’s that taking “Thou shall not kill” out of the public shool system working out?
David says
Of course the other component of this is that law enforcement refuses to categorize islamic terrorism and killing as such. The perps are virtually always categorized as mentally ill.
Wellington says
That old line of Mark Twain’s comes to mind, to wit, there are lies, there are damn lies and then there are statistics.
Statistics can be skewered any which way you want. Robert Spencer above indicated three such ways the “right-wing” stuff can be tampered with to get the result desired. Yep, the deceit and cover-up continues for the world’s worst religion ever.
John A. Sash says
To say 74% of extremist related killings are non-Muslim really says nothing because we aren’t told what data was compiled, who compiled it, what is meant by “extremist”, and a dozen other questions about the data. In other words it is a totally unsubstantiated claim. I’m reading the Koran and it is an ideology of murdering Christians and Jews. but by the grace of God extremist Muslims would have murdered hundreds of thousands of Americans by now.
Keys says
Exactly, John. Fictictious fabrications for the cause of the leftist leaders. Truth matters not, only the cause and the means to achieve it.
74.3% of what comes out of Pelley’s well-paid mouth for C-“BS” is fake news.
It doesn’t matter how this statistic was arrived at – it is valid and reliable because it appeared on JW. sarc/off
scott allen says
I actually did some research on the FBI report and it’s amazing how ridiculous their definition of right wing extremism is. They actually consider people who steal bulldozers to protest tree destruction to be extremists.
Of course it avoids the entire mindset of Jihad and how if given access to nukes every Jihadi would jump at the chance to take out a few million infidels at the slightest opportunity.
gravenimage says
Yes, Scott–whatever your views on them, there has been no actual violence from “eco-terrorists” or radical animal rights people–at worst they are an annoyance. Considering them “terrorists” along with homicidal Jihadists is just absurd.
Karen says
Even if this statistic is correct, consider this: it means that 26% of terror killings have been committed by people from a demographic that comprises 1% of the population.
gravenimage says
Also true, Karen.
Santa Voorhees says
“The data tells us this, 74% of extremist-related killings in this country in the last ten years have been carried out by right-wing extremists, not Islamic extremists.”
The Left: “Look! We have a right wing/white supremacist terrorism problem in the US. How do we solve it?”
“Let’s import more terrorists from the Middle East!”
The Left truly defies logic. If right wing terrorism is a problem in the US, then what’s the point of importing MORE from the Middle East that will only do more damage, as we’ve seen recently in NYC, or San Bernardino and in Europe in the last 3 years?
Muslims are just 1% of the US population and yet they committed 26% of all terrorist attacks? That’s huge!
Also, notice how the Left, after every jihad attack, says that “we must live with it”, treats it as if it is an every day thing and takes no action to stop it other than putting up barriers and road blocks of diversity (which may protect us but won’t solve the problem at its root), but when a white does it, all hell breaks loose.
gravenimage says
+1
And, of course, that figure is *much* higher when you take 9/11 into account.
infidel numero uno says
They obviously are using the “new commie math” for all their calculations. Can anyone who is even minded EVER watch 60 минуты again?
Keys says
Nyet, Comrade Infidel.
Take zee perpetrators out back and shoot zem.
Amillennialist says
1/2 @ScottPelley, Nazis were race-baiting, Socialist mass murderers (just like Democrats). Soviets were class-warfare-waging, anti-Christian tyrants (just like Democrats). The Confederacy were race-baiting slavers and actual Democrats (as were the segregationists/KKK after them).
2/2 @ScottPelley From the Founders to Lincoln to Reagan to Cruz, American Conservatives have always believed in Liberty and equality under the law. Stop projecting your party’s history of hatred, greed, and envy on those who’ve always opposed you. Tell the truth.
Postscript/2 @ScottPelley And stop telling only part of the story: In addition to the preceding 1400 years of slavery and slaughter, since 9/11 alone there have been more than 32,000 documented jihad attacks globally. As evil as racists here are, they pale in comparison to that.
Kepha says
Hear, hear!
I’ll agree that white supremacists/nationalists are angry and dangerous. However, their worldwide reach is far smaller than that of the jihadis; and while I have absolutely no sympathy for that movement (my family is not all white), I wonder if they’d have made the fracas in Charlottesville had the so-called “Antifa” kept its cool (a bit like expecting a snow once in the Apocalypse’s Lake of Fire, I suppose).
The constant screaming “Fascist! Fascist! Fascist!” and “Racsit! Racist! Racsit!” by a political Left which itself has a large warm spot for political thuggery on its own side of the divide as well as to spew innuendo whenever possible have probably done more to lead disaffected white youth to reconsider figures like Hitler and Mussolini.
livingengine says
It is Scott Pelley. He just does not do journalism anymore. He does politics.
Pelley has done several stories praising the whites Helmets aka Al Qaeda. https://pamelageller.com/2016/12/60-minutes-carries-water-al-qaeda.html/
Here he is teaching racism as enlightenment. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/racists-anonymous-helping-to-make-people-aware-of-their-own-biases/
They really should fire him. He is just completely out of control.
Kevin says
Go on youtube and search “The lies about Right-Wing violence vs Muslim” by Bode Lang…he debunks this way better than the article does. This article is weak and basically accepts the statistics they give. The Bode Lang video explains how they calculate these numbers which is where the real liberal ju-jitsu comes in
gravenimage says
60 Minutes claims 74% of “extremist-related killings” in US in last 10 years by “right-wing extremists,” not jihadis
…………………………….
What claptrap.
He probably means more murders were committed by “whites”. Given that the designation “white” in the US also includes most Hispanics as well as most from the Middle East, this is meaningless.
Matthieu Baudin says
How clever and immoral to narrow the focus to the U.S. alone and to shrink the time period to suit the argument. All those weekly atrocities all around the world carried out in the name of Islam and dispensing with the lives of multitudes – we’re not going to look over there – oh no, that’s the Old World isn’t it!
Robert_k says
Yes 60 Minutes, blind them to jihad terrorism so that Western Civilization can be brought down by their hands and the hands of the believers.
Z says
Where does the ‘data’ come from exactly? I want to know the source, not blindly believe everything I hear like a dumb democrat
WorkingClassPost says
6what a pile of BS.
Whatever twisted logic they used to reach those figures, they are still stuck with one glaring truth.-
If there are so many attacks and killings, then why is Charlottesville such a significant event? With a single fatality it hardly counts in the context of jihad butchery, does it, could it be that it’s the only such incident there is?
IQ al Rassooli says
60 minutes should be sued in court for DELIBERATELY misleading Americans with the following simple but deadly challenge:
How many Americans have been MURDERED by Muslims on American soil since 9/10/2001 and how many by Right Wing Extremists?
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!