The Palestinian Authority’s rift with the U.S. is growing deeper, according to Israeli media outlets. PA President Mahmoud Abbas president has come to see U.S. President Donald Trump as “a lost cause,” according to the Tims of Israel.
Abbas is unglued and will not be comforted. Why? because America exercised its right to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, in keeping with Jewish history of its land. This naturally does not bode well for Palestinian interests, as their primary goal is to obliterate the Jewish state. The world still has not come to grips with the fact that appeasement of jihadists just does not work. The more they are appeased, the more empowered and emboldened they become.
According to a report aired by Channel 2 news, Abbas was “not only closing the door, but throwing away the key” on the chance of any future Palestinian-American relations.
Now the “White House is reportedly looking for a Palestinian liaison other than Abbas.” Congratulations to the White House in attempting to maintain its honor in getting along, but its dream is rather unlikely, unless the PA changes its charter to accept Israel’s existence as a Jewish state.
“Reports: PA President Mahmoud Abbas Instructs Staff to Sever Ties With U.S.”, Breitbart, December 25, 2017:
The Palestinian Authority’s rift with the U.S. is growing deeper, according to Israeli media outlets.
PA President Mahmoud Abbas president has come to see U.S. President Donald Trump as “a lost cause,” according to the Tims of Israel.
The PA leader reportedly instructed his staff to sever all ties with US diplomatic officials at every level, including relations between the Palestinians and American diplomats posted at the U.S. Consulate in East Jerusalem.
The White House is reportedly looking for a Palestinian liaison other than Abbas.
Last week, the Palestinians announced they would not meet with U.S. Vice President Mike Pence, who was scheduled to arrive in the region. Pence visited U.S. soldiers posted in Afghanistan instead.
According to a report aired by Channel 2 news, Abbas was “not only closing the door, but throwing away the key” on the chance of any future Palestinian-American relations.
A White House official who was interviewed by the Times of Israel said in response to the Channel 2 report: “Apparently, the outlet that has reported this hasn’t been paying attention over the past several months. As we have said over and over again, we will not impose a peace deal. That is not news. We anticipated a cooling off period and remain as committed to peace as ever and are working hard on our plan, which we will present when the time is right.”
The Palestinians, according to Channel 2, have no plans to lift their boycott of the U.S.
Walter Sieruk says
Abbas saying that the US will longer have any part in the peace talks because of the US embassy move to Jerusalem is really a good thing. This is because those so called “peace talks” are a hoax as well as a bad “joke.” For those “peace talks” involve dividing Jerusalem as well as other parts of the State of Israel between the Jewish people of the Muslim/ Arabs is nothing but folly. To engage the madness of such “talks” is a hoax and a farce .This is because in the so called “negotiations” between the heads of the Jewish nation of Israel and the leaders of the “Palestinians” the Muslim /Arabs the “Palestinian” leaders will speak the truth only when in happens to fit their agenda. The rest of the time the will be speaking half-truths and outright lies. For their goal is to obtain all of the land of the State of Israel ,.Even in it takes much time and it means getting the land piece by piece. So those “peace talks” are a hoax. For the “Palestinian”leaders are employing what is the Islamic doctrine of Taqiyya . Which is the Islamic dogma that lying and deception are good things to do as long as it’s done for the cause of the advancement of Islam. The insidious scheme is part of the stealth jihad .Otherwise known as “Islamic Gradualism.” This sly and something subtle strategy of disingenuous speech, lying deception of achieving the goal of all the land of Israel a war ploy that will be a disaster if the heads of the State of Israel are foolish enough to agree to divide the land of Israel with Muslim /Arabs ,the “Palestinians.” For if such a “peace dialogue” results in a divided land, the outcome will literally be murder. For “Palestinian” leader will allow the jihadists use that land as a base to launch murderous rocked attacks in to Israel. As for example, Hamas of Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon. Such false hopes for peace which are based on the foundation of lies are nothing new when it comes to Israel . For example, the Bible in Psalm 55:20, 21. Reads “Such men do violence to those at peace with them and break their promised word; their speech is smoother the butter but their thoughts are of war.” [N.E.B.]
Mirit says
Very true. Every word you said is true. I am an Israeli and I hope most Israelis understand exactly what the goals of Jihadists are. Some Israelis do not know that, and some are in denial. The fake news avoid this very simple truth, but right wing web sites uncover the lies and fantasies of the left.
Jack Dawkins says
From Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum:
“M The danger for the Jewish People is because those who are irreligious and who are heretics are the leaders of the Jewish People. Therefore because of them the nations of the world are misled into hating Jews, so one of the greatest things to do would be to selflessly proclaim to the nations that the Zionists are not the representatives of the Jewish People, and that religious Jews have no connection with them. We should have had self-sacrifice to do this, but because of our many sins, people are frightened of public opinion, and if anyone should say these things about the Zionists, there will be religious leaders who will fight against them with all sorts of excuses.”
gravenimage says
The appalling “Jack Dawkins” is pretending that Muslims hate Jews because of the existence of Israel, but this is utterly false–genocidal antisemitism in Islam goes back 1400 years.
Jack Dawkins says
Devout practicing Jews like the SATMAR and leader Joel Teitelbaum HATE zionism. It’s not just Palestinians and socialists who despise DER JUDENSTADT
Edward says
Walter, you speak lies and capitalize and mislead the readers based on your knowledge of the word Taqiyya, then the readers think you are expert about Islam. Israel is always talking about Peace with the Palestinians, in the mean time they are the ones that keep taking more and more land . If you look at the map of Palestine in 1967 and the west bank territory you will see how much of that Land has been taken as Settlements. You are accusing the Palestinians of using deceive methods to get back Jerusalem, but you close your eyes and ears about the Land that has been stolen from the farmers, the villagers, and the poor people since 1967. You have to be Just, and you are not. If you are Christian then Justice means not to steal and oppress people, not to take what is not yours because you are the Ruler. Why do you support them because the Bible says so? are you human? then feel their suffering and pain. It is not only Jerusalem, it is the story of the only nation in the modern world that is being DE humanized by the Zionist government. If you know your Bible, then you will know that the Jews are not any more the choose people of God, Then what are the Christians? Above all they are humans, and they were born there, does not matter if they are Muslims or Christians. God sent the Jews out of this Land because of there dissbeliefe in Jesus, and the promise is a spiritual promise not Land promise. They are in this Land because of the support of people like you who can not see the light.
Stacy Girl says
Jihadi, heal thyself.
Champ says
Edward, lay off of the kool-aid …you’re drunk on LIES, pal!
And Walter is 100% correct!!
Bravo, Walter!
gravenimage says
The repulsive “Edward” wrote:
Walter, you speak lies and capitalize and mislead the readers based on your knowledge of the word Taqiyya, then the readers think you are expert about Islam. Israel is always talking about Peace with the Palestinians, in the mean time they are the ones that keep taking more and more land .
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What a load of claptrap. In fact, Israel voluntarily *ceded* Gaza for peace. Of course, the local Muslims just decided to use Gaza as a base from which to launch more Jihad at Israel.
More:
If you look at the map of Palestine in 1967 and the west bank territory you will see how much of that Land has been taken as Settlements. You are accusing the Palestinians of using deceive methods to get back Jerusalem, but you close your eyes and ears about the Land that has been stolen from the farmers, the villagers, and the poor people since 1967.
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What “Edward” means is that the ‘filthy Jews’ are not to defend themselves against Jihad at all.
More:
You have to be Just, and you are not. If you are Christian then Justice means not to steal and oppress people, not to take what is not yours because you are the Ruler.
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Ah…we’ve heard this before. That if you Christian you are supposed to roll over for any Muslim savagery, and that if you don’t you are not a good Christian.
MOore:
Why do you support them because the Bible says so? are you human? then feel their suffering and pain.
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Does “Edward” mean that we are not human because we are not feeling the pain of Muslims being thwarted in their quest to destroy Israel and wipe out the Jews?
And his claim that there is no reason to support democratic Israel besides the Bible is ludicrous. In fact, Israel is the *only* nation in the region that guarantees freedom of religion. It is also the only ally of the civilized West.
More:
In It is not only Jerusalem, it is the story of the only nation in the modern world that is being DE humanized by the Zionist government.
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All Muslims claim that the existence of tiny Israel dehumanizes them. How can they live if Jews are living freely somewhere?
More:
If you know your Bible, then you will know that the Jews are not any more the choose people of God,
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The “choose people of God”? What is “Edward” babbling about here?
More:
Then what are the Christians? Above all they are humans, and they were born there, does not matter if they are Muslims or Christians.
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What? No, Christians are not Muslims. What rot.
I think what the addled “Edward” is trying to imply is that Christians in the region are God sent the Jews out of this Land because of there dissbeliefe in Jesus, and the promise is a spiritual promise not Land promise. They are in this Land because of the support of people like you who can not see the light.
gravenimage says
For some reason this posted before I had finished replying. Here is the rest:
What? No, Christians are not Muslims. What rot.
I think what the addled “Edward” is trying to imply is that Christians in the region are persecuted in Israel, but this is not true at all. In fact, Israel is the *only* nation in the region where Christians are *not* persecuted.
Christians have been driven out of much of the “Palestinian Territories”–things are even worse in Gaza, where few Christians survive.
More:
God sent the Jews out of this Land because of there dissbeliefe in Jesus, and the promise is a spiritual promise not Land promise.
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I don’t know a single Christian who believes anything like this, and there is nothing in Christian scripture to support it.
More:
They are in this Land because of the support of people like you who can not see the light.
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It seems as “Edward” would have it “seeing the light” means destroying civilized Israel and slaughtering the Jews, and handing the carcass over to Muslims who want to persecute and slaughter Christians. *Ugh*.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Just in response to this one point:
“God sent the Jews out of this Land because of there dissbeliefe in Jesus, and the promise is a spiritual promise not Land promise.
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I don’t know a single Christian who believes anything like this, and there is nothing in Christian scripture to support it.”
It was a short and somewhat blunt way of putting it, but there is a core of truth to what Edward said on this point.
It isn’t totally unknown for it to be said that the Lord brought about the destruction of the second Temple of Jerusalem in 70AD, because of the continued sacrificial practices.
In the wake of the ‘once and for all’ sacrifice of Christ, the True Lamb come to take away the sin of the world, the Temple sacrifice became not only redundant, but actually rather blasphemous. To ignore the ultimate and all encompassing offering of the Son of God, while keeping on with practices, which were at most fore shadows of the one and only offering for sin, was seen by Paul as devaluing it greatly. To him, the idea of trying, or thinking it was necessary, to add something to the unlimited worth of Christ’s blood was a very serious matter.
In addition to that, it is also well established that the Lord has from time to time purposefully exiled His people Israel from Jerusalem and the Land as a result of various infractions. Interestingly enough, as Dov brought up in another comment thread, today is the anniversary of the day when Jerusalem fell to Nebuchadnezzar’s forces in 586/7 BC, and were finally led away into the Babylonian Captivity.
While it is one of the less comfortable areas of Biblical history and theology to consider, because after all who likes to think about God bringing judgment upon people, it is part of the story of Israel, and part of the character of the Creator. It is also the Lord’s desire that we see His dealings with Israel as an example, and consider it deeply.
We are cautioned against any kind of boasting or contempt towards His people Israel however, since they are His original ‘project’ so to say. We are the late comers, and, like them, are only counted as part of His Church by faith, a thing withheld from much of Israel for our benefit….but not forever. Romans 9 through 11 cover this very interesting topic.
We must remember however, that God gave Jerusalem back to His people once their time in Babylon was finished. He has always brought them back there, no matter how long it took.
This is what many Christians believe has happened recently, and why many are willing to help them there. Some even see it as a sign of something important to come.
Not meaning to support much of what Edwards said, as i can’t, but that one point stood out.
Carolyne says
News flash to Abbas…..Nobody cares.
Dianne Cornett says
Amen!
Ren says
Who needs Abbas staff anyway? He now has no more claim on Jerusalem as it definitely belongs to Israel.
Jack Dawkins says
Der Judenstadt uber alles!
gravenimage says
More crap from the appalling Muslim apologist “Jack Dawkins”.
He is pretending that if little Israel wants to survive that she is like the Nazi Reich.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Yes, because Jews defending themselves against bloody murder makes them Nazis. That makes perfect sense.
Very few of us in the West have much of an idea about the raging insanity they have to deal with every single day. Go and watch an islamic protest in a city center near you to get but a glimpse of the irrational, bestial, hatred that Israel is surrounded by.
I’m starting to think that anyone who seriously condemns Israel for the general tone of their actions, or compares them to the nazis (of all things), are pretty much saying that they either wish Jews were all dead, or simply would prefer them all to just ‘go away’ to somewhere undefined and vague. So long as they don’t stay THERE anymore.
The truth is that it wouldn’t make one tiny bit of difference. Islam, or some other similarly putrid ideology, would still hunt them down for destruction.
Israel is where they are. It’s the last stand. There is no fall back position.
Z says
We don’t need them anyway
marc says
lol “The Palestinians, according to Channel 2, have no plans to lift their boycott of the U.S.”
I’d like to see them boycott receiving aid, that’s about the only business they do with the US.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Marc–that is just what I was going to mention.
Their boycotting our endless aid to them would be just fine. Probably not what Abbas has in mind, though…
Terry Gain says
The United States should make aid to the so-called Palestinians conditional on two things: 1. That the PA recognizes Israel’s right to exist as a sovereign state. 2. That the PA disavow violence as a way of advancing their agenda.
Stacy Girl says
I’d give them a year trial of zero violations here and make the aid retro active.
abad says
The United States needs to sever all aid to Moslem Majority nations and that goes for Saudi Arabia too you know the Home Nation of Islam (TM)
Robert Buice says
We need to cut off all assistance to GAZA. And watch the PLO very carefully To hell with Abbas.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Yeah, the “peace process” has been underway my entire adult life, but things are stuck. This might have something to do with the fact that the “Palestinians” don’t want peace, they want process, especially with the money it brings. The U.S. taxpayer dollar goes to help pay bonuses to families of fallen jihad mass murder terrorists, or to fund a mass wedding of 12 yr old girls to 20-something men. Stuff like that.
gravenimage says
Yup. The charters of both Hamas and Fatah stipulate the destruction of Israel. This might have something to do with the “Palestinians” constantly scuttling the peace process…
balam says
PEACE AND Islam ARE SIMPLY INCOMPATIBLE.
Jack Diamond says
Much of it went to private Swiss bank accounts, the PA was a kleptocracy of fabulous proportions. But there was plenty left over to build peaceful smuggling tunnels and museums celebrating terrorist atrocities (er, Palestinian heroism).
gravenimage says
Still is, Jack.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“the “peace process” has been underway my entire adult life, but things are stuck.”
Indeed. Israel still exists, and every Jew there isn’t floating face down in the Med.
Robert_k says
Palestinian legislator Saeb Erekat said the US can no longer take the Palestinians for granted (after US recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital). Which in Arab talk (Psychological Projection) means the Palestinians can no longer take the US for granted.
M says
Ha. Nice. They do project. And talk out of their asses all the time. A two state solution was on the table at one point. Now maybe everyone can see through the farce. The Palestinians do not want peace at all.
Palwatch.org shows what their state media preaches BTW.
carpediadem says
Was this before or after he received free Israeli medical care just lately?
Carolyne says
Are they boycotting the US? Who knew?
mgoldberg says
I would love to see all aide to the so-called P.A. ended.
Period
dumbledoresarmy says
Me too. I’m an Aussie. I’d like to see *my* country stop giving ‘aid’ to the so-called ‘palestinians’. All we’re doing is basically paying jizya/ tribute and helping support their genocidal Jihad against the Jews.
Thought – Marc – if you’re in the USA – then you and all other American jihadwatchers should be communicating with the POTUS to make it quite, quite clear that you want ALL ‘aid’ to the PA (or any other ‘palestinian’ arab muslim entity) STOPPED. Because it doesn’t buy anything that is any good for Infidels.
gravenimage says
Yes–thew whole of the West should stop funding these genocidal creeps. Glad their appears to be some movement in that direction in the US.
CRUSADER says
“PALESTINIANS”
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” UNRWA Refugees: Where have They Gone? ”
Shoshana Bryen • December 26, 2017 • The Gatestone Institute
Ain el-Hilweh refugee camp in Lebanon (Daily Star)
Palestinian refugees are a slippery population — but when 285,535 of them go missing from a small country such as Lebanon, it should raise eyebrows.
UNRWA in Lebanon reports on its website that 449,957 refugees live under its protection in 12 camps, but a survey by Lebanon’s Central Administration of Statistics, together with the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics, could only find 174,535. The Lebanese government said the others “left.”
Okay, maybe they did — Lebanon constrained them viciously, so it would make some sense. What does NOT make sense, then, is the UN giving UNRWA a budget based on nearly half a million people when, in fact, there are far fewer than a quarter of a million. Who is paying and who is getting the money?
We are and they are.
The UNRWA website shows a budget of $2.41 billion combined for FY 2016 and 2017. The U.S. provides more than $300 million to UNRWA annually, about one-quarter of the total. In August 2017, UNRWA claimed a deficit of $126 million. A former State Department official said the budget shortfalls are chronic but that “the funds seemed eventually arrive” after pressing others for more money — some of that additional money is from the U.S.
American funding for UNRWA is problematic itself because the organization is inextricably intertwined with Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon; see here, here and here. And specifically for Lebanon, the connection goes as far back as 2007. But stay with the “floating” population problem for a moment.
The huge discrepancy in Lebanon suggests that UNRWA may have trouble counting refugees in the West Bank, Jordan, Gaza, and Syria as well. (We’ll give them a pass on Syria for now.) The problem is not new, but that Palestinian agencies were running the census may help the United States overcome its own long-term obstinacy when it comes to counting and paying.
Ten years ago, a forum on Capitol Hill, then-Rep. Mark Kirk called for an international audit of UNRWA. Kirk admitted he was unsuccessful in generating demand among his colleagues despite such accounting anomalies as a $13 million entry for “un-earmarked expenses” in an audit conducted by UNRWA’s own board. An amendment to the 2006 Foreign Assistance Act had called for $2 million in additional funds for UNRWA, specifically for an investigation of finances, but the amendment was withdrawn at the request of the State Department.
As a Senator, Kirk offered an amendment calling for the State Department to provide two numbers to Congress: the number of Palestinians physically displaced from their homes in what became Israel in 1948, and the number of their descendants administered by the UNRWA. The State Department denounced the amendment, saying, “This proposed Amendment would be viewed around the world as the United States acting to prejudge and determine the outcome of this sensitive issue.”
Far from prejudging the outcome, a review of the number of Palestinian “refugees” in the world and the world’s obligation to them would provide an honest basis from which to make policy.
In 1950, the UN defined Palestinian “refugees” as people displaced from territory that had become Israel after having lived there for two years or more — this is distinct from every other population of refugees that must be displaced from their long-term homes. Furthermore, Palestinians are the only “refugee” group that hands the status down through generations, until there is a resolution of the status of the original group — which is why they are governed by UNRWA; all other refugees are under the care of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), which has a mandate to settle refugees so they can become citizens of new countries. UNRWA, naturally, produces the only population of refugees that grows geometrically over time rather than declining as the original refugees die and their children are no longer stateless. (See Vietnamese refugee resettlement for an example of how this works for others.)
The original population of refugees was estimated at 711,000 in 1950. Today, there appear to be 30-50,000 original refugees remaining, and UNRWA claims to care for 4,950,000 of their descendants. But 285,000 of them appear to have disappeared from Lebanon.
It has long been understood that there is an undercount of deaths in UNRWA refugee camps — to admit a death means UNRWA loses that member in the accounting for the international community. It also wreaks havoc with Palestinian insistence that there are 6 million refugees (not UNRWA’s 5 million) and that a million people are not registered, but should still have a “right of return” to homes their parents, grandparents or great-grandparents claim to have had inside the borders of Israel.
The numbers game also exists with people who do not live in refugee camps. The Palestinian Authority counts as residents 400,000 Palestinians who have lived abroad for over a year, and according to Deputy Palestinian Interior Minister Hassan Illwi, more than 100,000 babies born abroad are registered as West Bank residents — both in contravention of population-counting norms. Jerusalem Palestinians are double-counted – once as Palestinian Authority residents and once as Israeli Palestinians. The PA, furthermore, claims zero net out-migration; Israeli government statistics differ.
How many Palestinians would there be in these territories if a proper census was taken? How many “refugees” would disappear from UNRWA rolls as they did in Lebanon? How might that affect the budget?
Can we please find out?
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(As the Tootsie Pop commercial famously warned: “The World May Never Know…”)
RonaldB says
What we seem to have is a huge, unaccountable bureaucracy funded with OPM (other people’s money) that cooks the books to perpetuate its how wealth and influence.
What a surprise.
I do feel sorry for the Palestinians, or at least those people called Palestinians. Victims of an international scheme to keep them indeterminate for the benefit of faceless, conscienceless bureaucrats, they are denied the opportunity to go out and make the best deal for themselves individually they can get.
Mirit says
You should feel sorry for the victims of the Palestinians. The Israeli Jews who died of their terrorist attacks funded by European and American money.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Could they perhaps be found in Germany, Holland and the UK? Maybe just in Berlin?
gravenimage says
Yes–this state of affairs is ridiculous.
David Stephenson says
We’ll be more than happy to stop sending them our tax dollars, which should have never been sent in the first place. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
M says
Not one cent should ever have been sent to them.
Keys says
Right. And no cereal boxtops, or Campbell soup labels, or S&H green stamps, either. Nothing at all.
No government official should even talk to them. It is a waste of time and taxpayer dime.
Norman Moffatt says
These people (Palestinians) work on a very old theory, “the loudest squeak get the oil”. Well we’re out of oil.
Phil Copson says
“…These people (Palestinians) work on a very old theory, “the loudest squeak get the oil”…..
And where exactly is the nearest source of oil in the ME ? Let me think……
Jaladhi says
Fine – we will cut off all aid to so called “Palestine”!! They should be super happy not to touch that filthy aid from kafirs! That won’t happen – they are all for staling everything from us!
mike9a says
“Go ahead, make my day!”
Sarah says
“According to a report aired by Channel 2 news, Abbas was “not only closing the door, but throwing away the key” on the chance of any future Palestinian-American relations”
Well, that’s that then, huh?
OK, shut that door, lock it up for all I care. Let them have their diplomatic sulk. While the USA is at it, now is the time to cut off any and all funding to Palestine.
I’d demand the same from the UN – because we all are forced to give money to that complete waste of time, which then gets funneled back ino the hands of these worthless Arabs – but their fellow Arab buddies have control of the UN right now, so that’ll never happen anyway.
Go on America, cut his credit card up into little pieces. We’ll see how long he sulks in the corner once he realizes he needs it far more than you need him and his ilk.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
All Muslim nations should severe any tie with Evil United States. It is glaring now that having friendly tie with Evil United States is the same thing as having friendly tie with fascist evil Zionist state of Israel as a license for it to continue its genocidal killings of Palestinians. such friendly relationship with hostile unbelievers is the one that Islam prohibits as explicitly stated in the Quran.
Gene says
Don’t forget to push the detonation button on you vest.
RonaldB says
Please see if you can convince governments of Muslim countries to adopt your point of view. Of course, Muslim immigrants should avoid the evil United States, and Muslim countries will be eternally corrupted if they accept money or aid from the Evil United States.
I presume you personally are not anywhere near the Evil United States, and I hope for your sake if you are, the security service will eject you immediately, for your own good, of course.
Shmoovie says
Ibby: “friendly relationship”? Silly remark.
You’re right, though– the US doesn’t need “friendly tie” with murderous loons like Abbas and OIC. Beggars with nothing to offer in return.
Why do muslim nations happily accept billions in evil aid from “Evil United States” if the koran prohibits?
Wellington says
“All Muslim nations should severe {sic} any tie with Evil United States.”
Well, Ibrahim, we have finally reached complete agreement on something. Yes, if only all Muslim nations would sever ties with America, it would be a hell of a good start for the continued preservation of such things as liberty, common sense and energy independence. As a follow-up, it would also serve as a hell of a good reason, should your wish come true, to disallow a single Muslim from any of the 56 Muslim nations from coming to America. Wow, what a bonus, no?
So good to be totally on the same side with you at last. Warms my heart and all that. Makes me feel all fuzzy inside and in want of a Yuengling Porter and a Beethoven symphony. Thanks for the lift, buddy. Keep up the good work.
CRUSADER says
Touche’ !!!
Love that reference to enjoying Yuengling Porter and Beethoven….
Carolyne says
And a good BLT.
Bezelel says
Yaba daba doo !!!
LeftisruiningCanada says
“friendly relationship with hostile unbelievers is the one that Islam prohibits as explicitly stated in the Quran.”
It’s amazing. The way definitions and meanings twist around in your mind, i mean.
“Friendly Relationship” for you = temporary truce of islamic agression, not lasting longer than 10 years, to be broken at any time the muslims have built enough strength to feel confident of victory.
“hostile unbelievers” = non muslims not yet subdued enough to pay jizya. IE. Anyone stronger than the muslims who don’t want to be muslims. “Hostility” just means say “no thanks” to become muslim.
“the one that Islam prohibits” = according the previous two definitions, you really mean that every relationship with non believers is prohibited.
Tell me, is there such thing a friendly non believers, Ibrahim?
“All Muslim nations should severe any tie with Evil United States”
Please, do that. Including family ties. Everyone who doesn’t like it, leave please. We will all much much happier.
Champ says
The imbecile wrote:
“All Muslim nations should severe any tie with Evil United States”
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Wouldn’t that be wonderful. And do I dare hope that all muslims, whom hate the United States, might move back to muslim nations and just stay put! Stop immigrating to freedom loving countries and instead revel in your slavery to islam, together! There, my ficticious hope and rant is over …
CRUSADER says
Same in return!
Dealing with lying and deceitful Muslims on the political stage has been a real lesson to not trust Islamists who just want to impose themselves on other people and not really help humanity. Only seek solace in believing in an end-game to humanity.
Oh the joy of life.
L’Chaim !
gravenimage says
Good to see that Ibrahim itace muhammed is OK with losing all of that aid from the “Great Satan”. Like Wellington, this is one thing I am in agreement on with this Muslim troll.
Terry Gain says
Ibrahim
Are you aware that with a mere 0.2% of the world’s population Jews have produced 212 Nobel Laureates, whereas you filthy supremacist, yet grossly inferior, Muslims, with 24% of the world’s population have produced a mere 12 Nobel Laureates. And only 3 of those were in Science. How does it feel to be a member of an inferior ideology?
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Terry Gain, this repetitive idiocy that evil Jews are pioneers of invention is too boring. your are fools!!
LeftisruiningCanada says
And yet you offer nothing to support your opinion, how unusual.
I’d say that it’s your unwillingness to engage in reasoned conversation that is boring, Ibrahim. Too bad, as i’m sure it would be more interesting for everyone with just a bit of effort on your part.
gravenimage says
Notice that Ibrahim itace muhammed cannot refute the inventiveness of Jewish people compared to the almost entire lack of innovation from Muslims.
He is just tired of being reminded of it!
mgoldberg says
Ibrahim- since the standard of living is higher in Israel for arabs than any other arab state, since they haveincreased their populations, without having any of the internecine attacks against them,as it is in other arab lands, your statement would be obviously not merely erroneous, but rather, numb as a boot.
You are a fascist, rather than the US or Israel, as many of the muslim states are: fascist, afflicting all their non muslim populations, and of course, amongs the least free of all nations.
The echo chamber of the false narrative of Islam rings every day. Not much else. 32,250 or so Jihadist homicidal attacks worldwike, some half a million homicided and injured. Hated by all others for their homicidism.
Yeah…. that’s quite a legacy.
mgoldberg says
One correction: They have the highest life expectancy in Israel, than in ANY arab, muslim nations.
LeftisruiningCanada says
And that’s with a raging mob at the gates and within. Israel is the target of the entire surrounding arab world’s anger and violence, and they STILL have a higher life expectancy than they do…..awesome!
LeftisruiningCanada says
Can’t help much to be filled with so much bile, you’re right. Things can get a bit explosive sometimes.
But, to be honest, though you can get sick anywhere when traveling, i know where it usually happens the most.
gravenimage says
True, mgoldberg.
Champ says
PA President Mahmoud Abbas president has come to see U.S. President Donald Trump as “a lost cause,” according to the Tims of Israel.
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“a lost cause”? We have the pot calling the kettle black. Except in this case, Donald Trump is NOT a lost cause.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Those liars are the lost cause. How many times have they rejected real offers of a two state plan? If they think this childish tantrum throwing is going to work, President Trump has some news for them.
Gah, these twisty decietful lying toads, nothing but smoke, mirrors, and acting like a demented Gerasene demoniac.
Manny says
Ah, it breaks my heart. I guess they won’t be accepting US aid any longer. What a shame.
tedh754 says
What a joke. As if anything good ever came out of that “process.”
VRWC member77 says
“As we have said over and over again, we will not impose a peace deal.”
No Kidding !!!! The “PEACE” deal WAS CONCLUDED A LONG TIME AGO with SOMETHING CALLED:
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Write it down about 100,000 more times…….GAZA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dov Berrol says
Supporters of Israel should join the World Jewish community in our annual fast day tomorrow: The Fast of the Tenth of Tevet. It’s a minor fast day (only sunrise to sunset) but it marks the anniversary of the day that the Babylonians under Nebuchadnezzar laid siege to ….you guessed it….Jerusalem in 425 BCE. Several months later they succeeded in conquering the city and destroying the First Temple. Jews have been observing this day for over 2,000 years. Join us in marking a millenia-old Jewish connection to Jerusalem – 1,000 years before the first Muslims ever existed!
LeftisruiningCanada says
Hi Dov,
I’m not familiar with that date you mentioned. I only know about the siege leading up to the sacking of Jerusalem in 586/7bc….could you help me out with that?
Luis says
Here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_of_Tevet
Dov Berrol says
Indeed, I stand corrected on the year. My apologies! The year has been determined by historians as the one you mention, with the siege actually beginning on the 10th of Tevet in 589 BCE. So close to 1200 years before the rise of Islam in the Arabian Peninsula.
LeftisruiningCanada says
No problems, glad i’m not going crazy, and haven’t missed out on some important change to the historical record 🙂
Carolyne says
I don’t believe in fasting.
tgusa says
I have always been embarrassed by our so called leaders (the perpetual JV team) of the past who were played like a fiddle by these fakers. It always reminded me of a not funny at all evil clown show. They see the idiots of the west losing their grip on the fake peace through violence and murder process and they are angry. Well, I’m not, angry that is.
What they are really saying is, you all are a bunch of big meanies and we are not going to play with you any longer.
What we are saying is, it’s nap time, so go.
shortfattexan says
“It always reminded me of a not funny at all evil clown show.”
It has always reminded me of Charlie Brown, Lucy, and the football, with the PLO/PA as Lucy and the US as Charlie Brown. And with Israel caught in the middle, knowing full well that Charlie is being played for a fool, but having no other choice but to play along.
Samuel Clemens says
The time is right for a political & very public outcry for the end of Islam in America. This is no more a religion than the hells angels is an actual religion. 9-11-2001 spoke volumes of what Islam is all about. They are a plague on humanity & must be driven out of our civilization.
Bezelel says
Quarantine the invented people, That’s like self deportation. Didn’t cost anything. Keep on winning. The U.N. shafted themselves and now fakestine.
William says
Good! One less hateful organization that WON’T BE ABLE TO keep GETTING MONEY FROM US TO USE IT AGAINST US!!! Good riddance!!!
dumbledoresarmy says
From the article – “The Palestinians [sic – dda], according to Channel 2, have no plans to lift their boycott of the U.S.”
ROFLMAO.
They’re going to boycott the USA, eh?
Then *there*, right there, is the perfect cue for the *USA* to say, “Fine! Boycott us! Frankly, my dears, we don’t give a damn, we don’t want anything at all to do with you”… and instantly CUT OFF the flow of US jizya/ tribute , er, ‘aid’ monies to said ‘Palestinian’ (sic) Mohammedans. Cut it off! Turn off the tap. Bzap. Gone. **Think of the money the USA will save!!**
Then… round up every last so-called ‘Palestinian’ on US soil who does not have US citizenship, and give ’em the boot – back to Gaza, or Jordan, or whatever other bit of the dar al Islam they in fact turned up form.
Investigate, minutely, those who possess US citizenship as well as their so-called ‘Palestinian’ (sic) identity, with a view to identifying whether that citizenship was gained in such a manner as to render it null and void.
Shut down all agencies, ‘political wings’ and other wholly-owned franchiees of the ‘pooooor ‘Palestinians'” currently in operation on US soil, and .. kick them out. CAIR….???? (Pass all relevant information on to Israel, for future reference, should it be needed).
*How* I would love to see this. And if the USA did it, then maybe it would embolden *other* western nations to do the same. Wouldn’t it be lovely if *every* western nation STOPPED paying jizya/ ‘protection’ money/ ‘tribute’ to the damn ‘palestinian’ Arab Muslims?
duh swami says
A few years ago, Obama and SOS Hillary ‘gave’ Abbas (Abu Mazen)
$193.000.000 taxpayer dollars to ‘help him with his ‘budget sort fall’ Hillary’s words…Later Abu Kerry wanted to give him 200 +million more…..looks like he can no longer depend on American generosity,,,Mayne Iran can take up the slack…
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
RonaldB, you always talk of aids as if evil United States is sustaining the whole world. paying Dollars maintain hegemony of evil United States is no longer working as evident from voting at UN that despite threat from savage mad devil Trump ťhe member nations noted against his illegal recognition of all Jerusalem as capital of fascist evil Zionist state of Israel. muslim nations have gone beyond dependant on token dollars from evil United States to survive contrary to what you think
duh swami says
You can surrender to the US now or you can do it later,,,Don’t worry Trump will see to it that you get everything you have coming to you..Trump cares…
Jack Dawkins says
Bite muhammad’s Penis
WPM says
Your right America, Europe, all Western countries should cut aid to the welfare queens in the middle East .All Moslem “refugees’ that are moving and have moved to the Western world should move out of our evil Western lands back to the paradise on earth the Moslem majority countries of the world. I think the despots in the UN that there only job is transferring wealth from the first world to their own private off shore banks while their own people live in huts with no clean water, at war with the many tribes of their lands. They {the blessed UN as useless as tits on a bull } should leave America too, maybe set up shop in Turkey or some other place of Islamic wonderland of happiness , peace and freedom. Moslems in Israel have the highest per cap income, the longest life span, clean drinking water , medical care high birth rate, low infant mortality then any Moslems in other countries in the middle East outside of Saudi Arabia . If the West cut aid Saudi Arabia would watch as it fellow Moslems kill, fight ,murder , rape each other over whatever scraps are left in the land and not give a penny or a hand to help their brother Sunnis. When the dust settles the Sunnis and Shites can start lobbing missiles at each other it would be a win win for freedom and the Western way of life.
FYI says
Perhaps Mr Abbas should check his book and I’ll check mine to find out about Jerusalem.
Let’s see now..Jerusalem is mentioned..
In the Hebrew Bible…. 669 times
In the Christian KJV Bible…767 times(OT and NT)
And how many times does the “perfect” koran actually mention Jerusalem?
Zero times.
You know the “perfect” koran that was given to muhammed{a mass murderer of Jews Abu Dawud 4390}
…by the “angel” jibreel
{“the angel jibreel is the enemy of the Jews”, sahih al bukhari vol 4 book 60 no 3329}
..on behalf of allah{who says the Jews are “apes.despised and hated” koran 2:65}
Yes ,that “holy ” book:the one given to an anti-Semitic mass murderer by a fallen angel on behalf of a gross distortion of God calling himself “allah”.
Zero times.
Jerusalem is mentioned exactly Zero times.
You would think it important enough for allah to mention Jerusalem.
Sort of like allah inexcusably omitting the most important aspect of God,the Chief Commandments which explains why islam and muslims are fuelled by their hatred.
According to the True God{the God of Moses} the future survival of Israel and Jerusalem as its holy city is fully sanctioned by Him{Joel 3}
It seems that allah,the islamic moon god missed that completely.
So muslims don’t get it:or that they are on the losing side.
The future survival of Israel and Jerusalem has already been guaranteed.
shortfattexan says
“The future survival of Israel and Jerusalem has already been guaranteed.
With respect, Sir (or Ma’am), I get a little worried when I hear people making this argument, for two reasons.
In the first place, even though I personally do believe Biblical prophecy, many other people don’t. In fact, those of us who do believe are in the minority. So that argument isn’t going to convince anyone who doesn’t already agree with you.
In the second place, and more importantly, it’s just not true. The Bible promises us that the Jewish people will survive – it says nothing at all about the modern State of Israel.
Yes, Jerusalem will survive, if you believe the prophecy (and I do). It has already been razed to the ground more than once and it has risen every time. It may be destroyed again someday, but if it does it will be rebuilt, just like every time in the past.
But just like the city of Jerusalem, the land on which the current State of Israel sits has been conquered many times, by many different people, including (more than once) by various different factions of Muslims. In all the thousands of years of recorded history, that land has spent a lot more time controlled by foreign conquerors than it has controlled by the Jews. Who is to say it won’t happen again.
No matter what happens to Israel, we know the Jewish people will survive. That fact that Jews are scattered throughout the world, and that there are thriving Jewish communities in almost every country on Earth proves this, even if we ignore the Biblical promise.
But we must not fall into the trap of assuming that Israel is invincible, and that we can safely ignore any threat to its existence. Because it’s not, and we can’t.
Fordstar says
If you keep wondering why this so called “peace process” has never gone anywhere just study the concept of Islamic Taqiyya. Islamic diplomacy is based on agreeing to whatever is on the table at the as long as it furthers their interests with no intention of truly honoring the agreement. Honor and trust are never in their intent for anything unless it furthers their cause for dominance.
p bay says
Its really taquiia or muslim lying…. Its a pieces process and we need to repatriate the ones in the USA
Yitz says
Abbas.. Biting his nose to spite his face.but he has so much personal funds he no longer needs the us. As for his people he couldnt care less. And good old ibraham he is a bit mixed up.arabs are killing jews. Not theother way around.
Philip McDonald says
PA cutting ties with the USA will save the US Taxpayer Billions.
TassieR says
“The Palestinians have no plans to lift their boycott of the U.S.” – horror, horror! I may well imagine Donald Trump being all a-tremble at the very thought of not a single Palestinian olive at his table (to tell nothing about not a single KGB-Abbas’ voice in support of our free world)…
Carolyne says
What do they export to the US? Sand?
Steven says
Then stop send the aid to Palestine. Problem solved.
p bay says
Does this mean we can stop sending people who want to kill us $$$?
p bay says
I dont CAIR…
dsinc says
That’s like me saying I am going to sever ties with my wallet.
Edward says
Walter and the other blind byes-ts, You people are Brain washed, You think people outside your borders are animals, and should get rid of them if they do not bow down to you.by the way, YOU caused the suffering of the Palestinian People over the last 70 years. You wanted to get rid of the Jews from your country on the account of the Palestinians. You killed so many JEWS in Europe over years and years, because of your envy. Because they are good in Business and Art and Music and every thing else, so that created hatred to them, so you got rid of them on our account, on the account of our Blood. As I said the other day ( In spite of the baseless answers) the Jews are not any more the Chosen People , the Christians are the chosen people, by the death of Jesus on the Cross as he said on the cross it is finished, the old covenant is finished, His open arms on the cross invited all the people of the earth to be his people, his CHOSEN PEOPLE, Jews and gentiles. No more promise land, we are all the chosen people if we accept Jesus as a savior. That is all. All what you do in supporting the aggressor who stole the land of another nation is wrong.