Police initially ruled out terrorism as a motive and said he was a mentally ill drug addict, despite the fact that a second Muslim was standing by with a bag full of knives. Now, however, reality is breaking through: “We haven’t ruled out terrorism and we continue to explore it,” said Victoria state’s acting police commissioner, Shane Patton.
“Melbourne attacker complained about injustice to Muslims after arrest,” by Jonathan Pearlman, Telegraph, December 22, 2017 (thanks to Mick):
Police in Australia said a man who drove through pedestrians in Melbourne rambled about injustice towards Muslims and the Australian spy agency after he was arrested – but his motive remains unknown and he is believed to have acted alone.
As Australian prime minister Malcolm Turnbull condemned the “shocking” crime, more details emerged about the driver, Saeed Noori, a 32-year-old Australian citizen who arrived as a refugee from Afghanistan in 2004. Noori had a history of drug use and mental health problems.
“We haven’t ruled out terrorism and we continue to explore it,” said Victoria state’s acting police commissioner, Shane Patton.
“It’s about not jumping to conclusions. It’s about exploring the evidence and the evidence will ultimately take it where it does and if that means it’s a terrorist event, so be it.”
He added that the driver talked about “the mistreatment of Muslims”.
Mr Turnbull said: “He [the driver] has said in a number of what the police are describing as ‘utterings’, he has said that he attributes his actions to perceived mistreatment of Muslims.”
Police searched Noori’s suburban Melbourne home, where he lived with a relative, and a second home. No material indicated any motivation.
Noori was captured on Thursday after he drove a white SUV into a crowd of pedestrians at 4.41pm at one of Melbourne’s busiest pedestrian crossings outside Flinders Street station, one of the city’s main transport hubs….
Police said Noori had a criminal history involving offences of unlicensed driving, using a mobile phone while driving and failing to answer bail. But he was not wanted at the time of the incident.
“The reality is, he wasn’t on our radar,” Mr Patton said. “We weren’t suspecting he’d be doing anything like this at all … a horrific attack in the middle of the city.”…
The incident prompted authorities to place bollards around the city but they proved little help in preventing Thursday’s crime, which occurred at a pedestrian crossing.
Mr Turnbull said further security measures, including installing additional bollards, would be considered….
Oh, that’ll fix everything.
StellaSaidSo says
By George, I think the plod are starting to get the hang of this EVIDENCE caper!
OF COURSE IT’S TERRORISM, you MORONS!
He’s just another entitled Muslim grievance-monger who thinks he is hard done by in a country which has given him freedom and opportunity. His problem is that he brought his stone-age values with him and can’t understand why we decline to accommodate them. DEPORT.
PRCS says
AFTER he’s served his sentence.
DHazard says
Muslims who live in democratic countries seem to have no sense of how good they have it. Instead of feeling gratitude far too many Muslims, along with their self appointed non-Muslim defenders, feel only hatred and resentment. They just whine, protest, riot and sometimes kill their “fellow” citizens. But, of course they have no problem selfishly demanding more public money, special treatment and uncritical acceptance of their beliefs. So instead of saying thank you they look for and “find” racism and oppression where it doesn’t exist. It goes without saying they would never choose to move to a country where Muslims are in charge, even when the prospect of having up to 4 sex slaves (wives) is available to them.
Singh the Sikh says
Correct DHazard. As I have said before, they are ungrateful bastards who should be left to rot in their own shitty countries. They contribute nothing, which would have been fine on its own; we would moan and bitch but carry them. However, they want to maim, kill, destroy and own host countries. How can anyone tolerate that? Western governments have made a terrible mistake letting them into their countries. The poor citizens paying the price.
abad says
Agreed, deport him back to Syria where he will be with other Moslems like himself and not worry about “treatment”
J D S says
Seems like I remember the guy that ran down people in NYC having a few violations like this guy had……Could this be a pattern the cops need to be looking at?
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes. ‘Unfaithful in little, unfaithful also in much’. That pattern of traffic violations betrays his attitude of contempt for non-Muslim laws and custom, for all non-Islamic authority and government.
There was a Musilm who attacked a Jewish centre in the USA, some years ago now. **On his way to carry out the attack he broke a road rule and was in fact pulled up by a cop**. There was another case of a couple of Mohammedans who had cooked up an explosive device that they intended to use somewhere… but as they were tooling along the highway they *exceeded the speed limit* and got pulled up by some highway beat cops, who used their copper spidey-senses and did a search of the car… and found the bomb.
Have you ever read Malcolm Gladwell’s “Tipping Point”?? It contains a *brillliant* chapter on the so-called ‘broken windows’ principle and how it was applied by law enforcement in New York City, beginning with the subways with 1/ strict enforcement of the laws against graffiti on trains and 2/ strict enforcement of the laws against fare-jumping. When cops began arresting fare-jumpers – and giving them a proper and thorough ‘once-over’ when arrested – they quickly discovered that very often those they caught evading the paying of fares at the subway stations, were *also* carrying illegal weapons or drugs, or had outstanding warrants, or their fingerprints matched up with those attached to unsolved crimes.
Infidel says
Most of the Muslims in Australia are leeching off the social security and welfare and this worm has the GALL to complain.. Shameless creature without any gratitude.
Undaunted says
Are my eyes playing tricks on me or it that perpetrator sitting with his hands cuffed in front of him?
Nope my eyes are operating properly.
Real cops cuff criminals behind the back. Amazing.
Bill says
He is a muslim. He is a terrorist. This is Australia. He is not being cuffed. He is being coddled.
mortimer says
Bill, Australians are lucky. In Canada, terrorists get $10 million.
Bill says
True. I wish more terrorists would leave the USA and move to Canada, you know, open borders and all.
DHazard says
Giving an Islamist money only buys resentment. Islamic terrorists are funded mostly by Western taxpayers who are so intent on feeling good about themselves and their imagined moral superiority they elect people like Justin Trudearu.
CRUSADER says
“…. another entitled Muslim grievance-monger ….”
Indeed! And, if he is drug induced and mentally deranged, that’s his own undoing, but he was inspired by terroristic ideology stemming from Islam and its radicalizing extremism.
As for how he as a Muslim may or may not have been treated in society, what about his actions and behavior? It is VERY clear what he did to other people! We’ve got it on video!
Why won’t the Muslim community act more to curb such ill behaving co-religionists?
j_not_a says
Because the whole-heartedly approve the actions of their co-relgionists’, of course! Cheering them on from the sidelines, supporting them also financialy, legaly, logisticaly, any other possible way.
Jaladhi says
These Australian dhimmis have still not declared it was a terror attack. They are in self denial and still fantasizing it was due to the drug use. Didi they test the terrorist for drugs in his blood? That could have given them the answer quickly!
Lookmann says
Islam is worse than drug addiction . Unfortunately, its traces cannot be found in the blood.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Islam can’t detected in the blood, but it can be detected from the traces of blood.
David says
The blood of innocent victims.
The best thing we can do to effect a change is to publish openly, the 109 verses of evil in the Koran. Muslims can’t complain. It is their ’holy’ book.
Take a look at this: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
Michael Copeland says
The “does-not-belong-to-any-organisation” excuse does not wash any more.
It no longer works to cause the motive to be unknown.
A muslim belongs to Islam – the worldwide Umma. That, by the way, is an “organisation”.
He is COMMANDED by his ideology to terrorise and kill non-muslims.
This man was doing “exactly what this book says”.
Billy Chickens says
Well, of course he’s mentally ill! He’s a MUSLIM isn’t he?
DFD says
“….complained about “mistreatment of Muslims” …”
That complained, nor its subjects, has or have nothing to do with Islam! Of course not.
Georg says
Well, leftists teach them the second they get over here that they are the victims of enormous mistreatment and mass conspiracy. So, apart from being untrue it is massively dangerous. Great job, leftists! Well done. Perhaps it is part of your “community cohesion” endeavor?
“It’s about not jumping to conclusions. It’s about exploring the evidence and the evidence…”
So, he is speaking out against himself and his prior jump to conclusions? Maybe the people will soon have had enough. We’re not asking for square circles. We’re only asking for pragmatic governance. The people paying your salaries deserve at least that, and with good governance get that and a whole lot more. Truly disgusting.
Philip Copson says
(A) “…he is believed to have acted alone…” doesn’t chime with (B) the header stating that another muslim was standing by with a bag-full of knives.
Or maybe muslim (B) was all set to attack, but was beaten to it by muslim (A) acting independently.
What a spoil-sport the man is.
More importantly, how many more attacks will it take before people stop being so damn civilised and holding the perpetrator until the police arrive ? My sister and her family live in Melbourne, and I would feel quite justified in hanging this pointless psychopath myself to prevent others being killed.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“his motive remains unknown and he is believed to have acted alone.” Police said with the answer to both staring them in the face.
““It’s about not jumping to conclusions. It’s about exploring the evidence and the evidence will ultimately take it where it does and if that means it’s a terrorist event, so be it.”” He said with regret.
“Mr Turnbull said further security measures, including installing additional bollards, would be considered….”
You know what it’s called when you have lots of bollards very close to each other in a row?
A wall.
The Israelis have tried it with great success, although i’d bet big money that him and his buddies have cursed Israel as the new nazis for building it. Hypocrites, now you’re getting an idea of what they have to deal with every day.
Sarah says
Of course its terrorism.
When a Muslim decides to turn a bunch of innocent pedestrians into bowling pins, using the exact same method that we have seen used in many other terror attacks around the world already, and did so because he is a Muslim and is angry because he thinks his beloved Islam and fellow Muslims aren’t treated with a level of reverence that suits him.
He did this to cause harm, death, injury, suffering and to terrorize. So how is this NOT Islamic Terrorism?
Just because he didn’t get recorded by someone shrieking ‘Allahu Akbar’ right before ploughing into those poor people doesn’t mean that it is ergo, definably NOT Islamic.
Just because he’s using ice and is allegedly at the stage where he’s getting the meth crazies, doesn’t mean he isn’t capable of defining ‘right and wrong’, nor does it mean he is somehow incapable of terrorism. A lot has been made about him being on a mental health plan.
But a mental health plan means nothing, really. Most Aussie’s have had one at one stage or another. A mental health plan is simply where the GP signs a few forms so that you can get a number of free sessions with a psychologist or psychiatrist – so that the sessions are bulk billed to Medicare instead of you paying a gap fee. Given that this loser was a junkie and an Afghani refugee – of course he’s on welfare, which means he couldn’t afford to see a psych – so a mental health plan is just a standard medical option for him.
Hell, you only have to have a mild dose of depression to get a mental health plan. I have had one before! It saved me several hundreds in psychology fees during a very low point in my life and allowed me to get some counselling when I needed it. It did not make me mentally ill to have one. I was sane – just needing financial help to pay for the psychologist. That’s all that a mental health plan is.
Psychology and Psychiatry for Australians who for whatever reason, cannot afford the high costs otherwise. I have a friend who just completed a mental health plan – and he’s completely normal in every way – it was just a good way to cut the costs that he was paying for a year of counselling to help move past his divorce and to get advice on how to deal with one his children, who is having behavioural issues.
But the authorities are clinging to this as though it somehow proves that there’s not been an act of terror committed. For all we know, the mental health plan this loser was on, was to gain access to the big drugs from a psychiatrist,as he’s Doctor Shopped too many times and can’t get his hands on valium for his come down crash with the ice he uses. The fact that he missed one appointment means nothing. If someone is a thin inch from going crazy, they’re not on a mental health plan, they are on a psychiatric watch. There’s a whole different kettle fish for those people – this guy was just getting a handful of free psych sessions, that’s all it was.
Lydia Church says
Typical ‘pot calling the kettle black’ whining crybaby victim act!
How delusional can they get?!
Salome says
He’s not a terrorist, though. He’s a new class of perp called a ‘fixated person’. Apparently the police are aware of 300 such persons and they are now keeping tabs on them. What’s he fixated on? Why, Islamic terrorism, of course. God save us.
LeftisruiningCanada says
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5200629/Three-men-woman-charged-blowing-PIPE-BOMB.html
4 unnamed undescribed Australians arrested. But it’s not terror related, so don’t worry.
Take look around the the DM website. There’s so many little stories like this one.
Santa Voorhees says
I am still waiting to hear such stories from Hungary, Poland, Czech and Japan. What is their secret? ?
Oh, wait, I know. It’s because leftist morons aren’t running these countries!
Cheer Bear Girl says
The nerve of that Muslim terrorist. Playing the victim after he harmed innocent people.
Western governments need to drop that Islam is peace nonsense and deal with Islam as it really is.
Muslims want Sharia Law for all of mankind.
People should learn all that Sharia Law entails before defending it.
David says
The best thing we can do to effect a change is to publish openly, the 109 verses of evil in the Koran. Muslims can’t complain. It is their ’holy’ book.
Take a look at this: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
Cheer Bear Girl says
I mean learn what Sharia Law entails before defending it.
sidney penny says
Read Robert Spencer’s comment at the end.
David M says
This is interesting, it blows the leftists arguments about it being non religious out of the water:
A former of Mr Noori’s has told 9NEWS he worked with the accused at a call centre, where he was known as Mark.
“There was always talk of his religious beliefs, he was very strong in that,” the worker, who only wished to be identified as Daniel, said.
“People would say ‘I believe in God’ and he’d say ‘you need to believe in Allah’.
“It was a forced opinion and we weren’t allowed to have our belief if it was his belief, essentially.”
Daniel was shocked to hear the man he worked with was allegedly responsible for the Flinders Street rampage but said he’d seen some aggression in Mr Noori before.
“There was one or two instances where he’d blow up and he’d say I need you to calm down you’re at work now.”
Twelve people injured in Thursday’s car attack remain in hospital, with three people fighting for their lives, Premier Daniel Andrews said today.
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/emotional-mother-of-flinders-street-accused-lashes-out/ar-BBHaHqH?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=iehp
LeftisruiningCanada says
Signs for sure. That’s the thing isn’t it – if a muslim gets serious about his beliefs, violence will follow. If a Christian gets serious, he might end up on the street with a sign saying “REPENT”
Big difference.
underbed cat says
It is so often a irritating thought that the authorities do not identify Islam as the source of jihad terror, not hijacked. But just maybe they are trying to deny the jihadi a sense of power, which lately is the thought that maybe the reason it so attracts people to islam…a sense of power over life.Sort of that which motivates murder. which I never understood/ believed the idea which is really scary to me since it would create a dark world. But it seems to shock authorities that anyone would consider islam to teach what it actually teaches.It is like living at the base of a volcano that could erupt.The muslim gets to excuse the behavior and it sweeps up as a wave many people. The picture of the jihadi in white sitting confidently next to authorities is a statement in itself, like he has zero remorse.I kind of wish I knew if the media really is clueless or the heads of police departments that declare “it has noting to do with Islam”, would at least explain what they are doing.The only solution I can see is to remove the ideology taught in mosques by removing mosques and qurans and forbid the migration in to our borders. Which would be tricky due to their ever changing forms from the clever use of deception outreach with sprinkles of charity.
Thom says
What about all the elephants in the room? Where did Noori get that quite expensive car? News in Aus showed him living in a near new 2 storey house. He looks well dressed and well fed. Are the Authorities following the money trail? If he is on welfare, how come he is so well off? Who supports these people?
And the big one: he decried the treatment of muslims by infidels! Well, what about the treatment of western societies by muslims handing out atrocities on top of more and more atrocities! What about the treatment of muslims against other muslims, an endless tale of death and injury, as well as destruction of property and assets all around the world. If you look at ANY ISLAMIC COUNTRY you only see destruction and misery.
And, oh yes, I’ll probably get a visit from the Authorities to see what is wrong with me!
dumbledoresarmy says
Above, a commenter has linked to a Channel 9 (Aussie commercial television) report on the committal of this evil mohammedthug and would-be murderer.
There are two sentences in that report that are simply delicious. Because it seems that, in court, this mohammedthug was at the mercy of a/ a Sikh and b/ a Hindu.
One of the prosecuting cops is, to judge from his name, a Sikh immigrant (or descendant of immigrants).
I quote – “Victoria Police Prosecutor Senior Constable Amitoj Singh A SIKH! told the court the accused man drove a vehicle through the pedestrian intersection of Flinders Street and Elizabeth Street “with the intention of killing or causing serious injury”.
“Eighteen people were injured and three remain in a critical condition in hospital,” he said.
Senior Constable Singh said the motive remained under investigation and more charges could be added.”
And then there is the magistrate. “Magistrate Bob Kumar remanded Mr Noori in custody to face a filing hearing on Wednesday.”
Note: Muslims HATE to see non-Muslims in any position of authority. This POS mohammedan, who set out to murder-by-vehicle as many defenceless non-Muslim pedestrians as he possibly could, finds himself in court, being arraigned by an Aussie Sikh cop and then being clapped into gaol by a Hindu/ Indian non-Muslim magistrate, one ‘Bob Kumar’.
Sweeeeeet. Suck it up, mohammedan.