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Belgium: Cross removed from St. Nicholas’ miter so as to avoid offending Muslims

Dec 3, 2017 3:05 pm By Robert Spencer

“It is no longer a religious celebration of Sinterklaas, but a feast for all children, whatever faith they have. Hence our decision to remove that religious symbol and replace it with a neutral round sphere.”

Solidaris, like so many other organizations in Europe, is making the job of Islamic supremacists easy for them. They hate the cross, as per the Qur’an’s denial that Jesus died on the cross (4:157), and by the time they take power in Belgium, the dhimmis will already have preemptively removed all the crosses to appease them.

“Now there is even a hoopla about the cross on the miter of Sinterklaas,” translated from “Nu ook al heisa over kruis op de mijter van Sinterklaas,” Niewsblad, November 24, 2017:

After the discussion about whether Zwarte Piet may still be black and not hurt people, the dress code of Sinterklaas is now also being altered. The Walloon socialist health insurance fund Solidaris removed the cross from the miter of Sinterklaas for their drawing competition. “In order not to exclude any child”, it explains.

Several members of the health insurance company were already displeased at the fact that the cross on the red miter was replaced by a sphere. “Zwarte Piet is not allowed to be black anymore, the Christmas market is now winter fun, and now the cross of the miter must also be erased. What will be the next?,” a father asks.

But the socialist health insurance system defends itself by saying that “it is no longer a religious celebration of Sinterklaas, but a feast for all children, whatever faith they have. Hence our decision to remove that religious symbol and replace it with a neutral round sphere,” says a spokesperson for the health insurance fund….

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  1. eduardo odraude says

    Dec 3, 2017 at 3:43 pm

    Well, they could put a scimitar in Santa’s hand.

    • D Austin says

      Dec 3, 2017 at 3:47 pm

      And replace the reindeer with women in burkas…

      • LeftisruiningCanada says

        Dec 3, 2017 at 4:00 pm

        oh boy, there’s one for Charlie Hebdo 😀

        • blitz2b says

          Dec 4, 2017 at 8:44 pm

          Charlie Hebdo has been neutered as far as Islam is concerned… As far as the cross, I don’t see why it needs to be on anything European. They have openly rejected Christianity either for atheism or Islam.
          Europe, the spiritually starved continent will soon be in bondage to the most barbaric ideologies that mankind has ever experienced, and they are willingly giving in to it… So be it.

        • LeftisruiningCanada says

          Dec 4, 2017 at 10:00 pm

          Guess you’re right, although that recent one of T Ramadan wasn’t bad.

          As for the cross removal, it’s a shame. The reason for doing it is an even greater shame. And dangerous.

      • MARCO D says

        Dec 5, 2017 at 4:27 am

        IT IS TIME TO STOP ALTERING/CHANGING YOUR CUSTOMS AND WAY OF LIFE(FREEDOM) TO ACCOMODATE MUS-LIMS AND ISLAM. SEND THESE ASSHOLES BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN SO THEY CAN MAKE ALL THE DEMANDS THEY WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. tgusa says

    Dec 3, 2017 at 3:48 pm

    “the socialist health insurance system”

    How completely predictable.

    Socialists practicing religion are wolves in sheep’s clothing. The socialists did not build it, as always, but they will try to tear it down, as always.

    Take away the Cross and you disappear Christian charity. So really, what kind of “feast for all children” do you have in the end?

    • mortimer says

      Dec 3, 2017 at 5:55 pm

      The mitre is a Trinitarian symbol, so it’s no good either as far as Muslims are concerned, but most Muslims wouldn’t realize that.

      Not just the cross but the mitre itself is BLASPHEMY (kufr) in Islam because it represents the Holy Spirit visible as ‘tongues of fire’ over the heads of the apostles.

      Muslims have been attacking Santa Claus for years now. I’m surprised they haven’t killed a Santa.

      http://metro.co.uk/2017/11/25/isis-threatens-attacks-on-christmas-markets-with-sick-santa-claus-propaganda-7108491/

      https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/98556/beheading-image-santa-claus-isis-calls-christmas-attacks-new-york-london/

      http://r.duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nydailynews.com%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fshooter-wearing-santa-garb-kills-35-turkey-nightclub-shooting-article-1.2930006

      • WorkingClassPost says

        Dec 4, 2017 at 5:51 am

        My guess is that they’ve already sent a hit squad over to Lapland to search him out.

      • MARCO D says

        Dec 5, 2017 at 4:31 am

        SEARCH THE INTERNET- THEY HAVE ATTACKED SANTA CLAUSES BEFORE

    • MADPATRIOT says

      Dec 4, 2017 at 10:54 am

      And this is jsut what the like of these people want for America and the world/….why is NOBODY standing against these tyrants and tell them to shut up and that they have the right to worship and include whom they wish to and exclude those that do not believe as they do!….muslims have got to realize the rest of the world is not in the Dark Ages, as they are and do not believe their rubbish! WHY does anyone let muslims push them out of what are their traditions and beliefs? Tell them NO and to go away…and until they do, muslims till continue taking over because that is what they do…….very evil and of satan because they dismiss Christianity.

    • J D S says

      Dec 4, 2017 at 11:38 am

      Things like this are predictable.
      Muslims can not come together to produce a mighty army to invade as they did in past centuries. They have too many problems with what Islam actually speaks with the exception that it is their fight, whatever that fight may be, to conquer the world for Islam.

      Soooo….They are using the West vulnerabilities to accomplish their goal….and one of the best ways to do that is to use every tool available to discredit and remove anything Christian …a Cross…some wording…a symbol, etc. Now we have seen this happening before the recent Muslim onslaught of worldwide migration… (also in their plan of world domination)…and they have jumped on the band wagon, to use what WE have allowed to happen, to further their agenda…….

      Whether one likes him or not President Trump seems to be the only world leader who understands what is happening and is trying to do something about it, although stymied at every turn by Fake News, MSM, although they are one and the same, the Radical Left and the Democratic Party and others.

      Of course we should pray for God’s help and pray for our leaders but we have turned out backsides to God and I’m not sure he will help till we repent… Read the Old Testament,Use the Children of Israel for an example to what happens when a nation turns their backs on Him
      and those that say…oh that was ancient stuff and doesn’t apply today….well that way of thinking had put us in the position we are in today.
      I didn’t mean for this rant to be so long.

  3. Westman says

    Dec 3, 2017 at 3:49 pm

    Christianity is dying in liberal Europe. It may be due to the fact that Europeans have the ease of living already that was promised for the next life, centuries ago, by Christianity.

    The assumption that the same transition will occur in the Muslim immigrants is as false as Friday’s news from Brian Ross and Joy Behar.

    Keeping the women in 7th century status, forbidding mixing with non-Muslims, threatening anyone who considers leaving Islam with death, and a promised future of sex and glutony, tends to retard any reformation.

    As the irresistable force meets the mushy blob, much more than a few Christian symbols will be lost – including that ease of living.

  4. tedh754@gmail.com says

    Dec 3, 2017 at 3:49 pm

    By all means, lets’s not offend Muslims. But they can commit any kind of atrocity and we had better well like it!

    • MADPATRIOT says

      Dec 4, 2017 at 11:01 am

      As I said above:…UNTIL THE WORLD TELLS MUSLIMS TO GO BACK TO THE MIDDLE EAST AND SHUT THE HECK UP ABOUT THEIR EVIL SATANIC CULT AND STOP PUSHING THEIR WAYS ON EVERYONE, THEY WILL KEEP IT UP, AS THEY THINK THEY ARE THE ONLY TRUTH, WHEN IN FACT THE ONLY TRUTH THEY ARE IS OF EVIL, SUBJUGATION, MINDLESS TYRANNY AND A COMPLETE
      LACK OF HONOR OF LIFE OR TRUTH AS THE REST OF THE WORLD KNOWS IT.
      VERY IGNORANT, PUSHY, LIBERAL, LEFTIST PEOPLE.

    • MARCO D says

      Dec 5, 2017 at 4:38 am

      THIS /THAT IS BULLSHIT- THERE WILL BE A LOT OF CARNAGE BEFORE I CHANGE MY LIFE FOR THESE 7TH CENTURY BARBARIANS- SEND THEM ALL BACK TO THE MIDDLE EAST/ AFRICA OR WHAT EVER THEIR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN. REMEMBER THE SONG” THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND- THIS LAND IS MY LAND”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! …..

  5. Benedict says

    Dec 3, 2017 at 3:51 pm

    “replace it with a neutral round sphere,” –
    Wouldn’t a crescent moon be even more neutral?

    • Westman says

      Dec 3, 2017 at 4:14 pm

      LOL!…

    • James says

      Dec 3, 2017 at 9:10 pm

      Why not compromise and make it a green and red (= yellow) sickle moon ? That would accomodate Muslims, Communists, and these yellow cowards.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 3, 2017 at 11:41 pm

      Grimly hilarious.

      And what about calling him “Saint”? Isn’t that still too Christian?

    • Bob says

      Dec 4, 2017 at 3:41 pm

      Yes, Benedict – they are, afterall,worshipping the moon god.

  6. LeftisruiningCanada says

    Dec 3, 2017 at 4:02 pm

    “In order not to exclude any child..”,

    the rest of the quote should have said:

    “..already indoctrinated by their fascist parents into hating everything about the kaffir.”

    • MADPATRIOT says

      Dec 4, 2017 at 11:06 am

      mUSLIMS DO NOT GET THAT WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED TO BELIEVE IS NOT WHAT ANYONE WITH SENSE OR EDUCATION WOULD BELIEVE. THEY ARE SAYING TO OUR CHILDREN ‘YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO BELIEVE AS YOU DO AND WE KNOW BETTER AND YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE AS WE DO AND ACCEPT US’………NO!! BY HELL WE DO NOT HAVE TO AND THEY NEED TO STOP TAKING OVER OTHERS…OTHERS MUST STOP ACCEPTING THEIR RUBBISH TELLING THEM TO GO HOME AND LEAVE THE WORLD ALONE.
      tHEY WILL SPREAD THEIR EVIL UNLESS THEY ARE STOPPED!

  7. Charles says

    Dec 3, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    I’ll concern myself about “offending muslims” WHEN muslims begin worrying about OFFENDING ME!
    Meanwhile: SCREW ‘EM!!!!! ?

    • D Austin says

      Dec 3, 2017 at 4:18 pm

      Japanese PM tells the United Nations to shove it, will not take in any Muslim ‘refugees’

      http://usainfront.com/japanese-pm-tells-the-united-nations-to-shove-it-will-not-take-in-any-muslim-refugees/

      • James says

        Dec 3, 2017 at 9:11 pm

        Excellent !

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 3, 2017 at 11:43 pm

        Good for him!

    • MADPATRIOT says

      Dec 4, 2017 at 11:08 am

      THEY ARE A GRAVE OFFENSE TO ALL THAT IS FREE, RIGHT, FAITHFUL TO CHRISTIANITY AND GOD…..the REAL one!.

  8. nicholas tesdorf says

    Dec 3, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    Unfortunately, the Muslims will not see it as “no longer a religious celebration of Sinterklaas, but a feast for all children, whatever faith they have.” Rather, they will see it as the advance of Sharia Law, and the breaking of the crosses.

    • mortimer says

      Dec 4, 2017 at 8:37 am

      Agree with nick. Precisely= a victory for Sharia law.

  9. Benedict says

    Dec 3, 2017 at 5:38 pm

    Remove the Cross from the world and evil will have full sway.

    Theologically expressed by the apostle Paul the Cross is “the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory;”

    Europe being ashamed of the Christian Gospel is Europe lost and paradise lost.

  10. Enrique says

    Dec 3, 2017 at 5:40 pm

    They stripped Our Lord of his clothing and nailed Him to the Holy Cross. They took him for dead. But that could not stop Christianity or his Holy Church – because, unlike Islam, it is divine.

    • Joe says

      Dec 4, 2017 at 6:59 am

      Muslims tell you that Jesus just feinted on the cross. If they knew anything about crucifixion, they would know that when you feint, you die from suffocation. That is what the “dance of the crucified” is all about.

      • MADPATRIOT says

        Dec 4, 2017 at 11:11 am

        Muslims ought to know what crucifixion does; AS THEY CRUCIFY THEIR OWN!! Evil mindless fools of saturn.

      • Enrique says

        Dec 4, 2017 at 1:00 pm

        I didn’t realize that Muslims contend that Jesus had fainted but not dies on the Cross. Islam came 600 years after Christ. Do they cite any sources as old as the New Testament books (written some 20-50 years after Christ) for their contention? Or do they just cite themselves?!

        Anyhow, in wrtiting: “They took him for dead.”, I meant that He resurrected from the dead on the third day.

        • Enrique says

          Dec 4, 2017 at 1:00 pm

          died

        • LeftisruiningCanada says

          Dec 4, 2017 at 10:07 pm

          “I didn’t realize that Muslims contend that Jesus had fainted but not dies on the Cross. ”

          It’s one option they use. Another is that the whole thing was just an illusion or something that gos supposedly caused everyone to see. Sometimes they go for the ‘Judas took His place” thing.

          “Do they cite any sources as old as the New Testament books (written some 20-50 years after Christ) for their contention? Or do they just cite themselves?!”

          You got it. They only believe the koran’s opinion (Sura 4:157-8). Despite hundreds of manuscripts dated before the 7th century all saying the same thing (that Christ was crucified, died, and rose again) in pretty much every book of the NT in one way or another, those are all, of course, corrupt from the islamic position.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 5, 2017 at 12:04 am

          No, Muslims do not cite any sources, Enrique. They just deny that Jesus was the Savior.

          But it goes beyond this–the Muslim “Jesus”–really, “Isa”–was not a healer or a peacemaker, either. His entire role is to *kill Christians* in the last days. He has *nothing* to do with the Jesus of the Gospels.

  11. Lydia says

    Dec 3, 2017 at 7:40 pm

    One facet of this is that it is an anti-Christian campaign, disguised as an ‘appeasing muslims’ or someone else, anyone else campaign. It is just their excuse. The war is against us as Christians, part of their Holocaust pogroms against us.

    • Lydia says

      Dec 3, 2017 at 7:42 pm

      btw, my response?

      I put up MORE crosses.
      ( ;
      And, I’m celebrating Christmas all month long.
      It’s the “living well is the best revenge,” and “win-win” situation of suffering for the Lord should anything happen. So I get a martyrs crown for a gift as well, eh? Fine with me!
      : D

      • FYI says

        Dec 4, 2017 at 6:49 am

        There is more to all this,at least for those who have “eyes to see and ears to hear”
        Just look at all these anti-Christian forces on the march in the EU.

        The Globalists,the leftists,the media,the islamists,the dhimmiwit politicians and supposedly Christian clergy and an heretical pope who thinks allah(who denies Christ) is the same as the Christian version of God.Look at what they are doing.what is the end point?

        The way is being prepared for someone..though most will choose not to believe it.

        The “someone” of 2 Thessalonians 2.

        You may note that ..v 4..

        “he will oppose every so called god or object of worship and put himself above them all.
        he will even go in and sit in God’s Temple and claim to be God”

        he will oppose ALL religions.You can see how Christianity is being attacked ferociously in the EU and the forces of anti-Christ are working overtime to destroy it.
        islam is simply a useful tool for the antichrist:with the help of the false prophet installed in Rome he WILL come to power{This is permitted by God to separate the wheat from the chaff.
        The job of the antichrist is to be the chaff-collector}
        so he will use islam and moslems…before he turns on them.
        {consider what would happen if a man came to power in the EU.. promising to banish islam and moslems from Europe;how popular would he be?Wouldn’t he be elected to power?of course such a man,like Hitler,would be a deceiver and a liar but the sheeple would very likely fall for it}

        As I said,the vast majority of the blind sheeple will not see this coming…the coming to power of the one who it is foretold WILL come to power to rule the world(..but for a short time)

        Hitler has been described as the forerunner of the antichrist:a deceiver with mesmeric powers of persuasion.Such a deceiver uses anything and anybody to get to power.he could use the right wing or the left wing political ideologies,he could use popes,muslims,atheists,human gullibility,political correctness..to come to power.lucifer is smarter and more cunning than humans but is no match for God and those who use God’s wisdom to fight him.

        None of this will make any sense to those who are choosing to be lost!

        The forces of antichrist want to destroy Christianity.However,it is an illusion to think they can win.The apparent decline in Christianity was predicted by Jesus Christ (in Matthew chpt 24)that many would abandon the faith v 10.

        “But will the son of man find faith on earth when he comes?”
        Luke 18 v 8

        And it is clear how it will play out(at least if you are Christian).

        So the fact that many have abandoned the faith ,Christians are being betrayed by their clergy
        and Europe is turning into a godless anti-Christian place should not surprise you.

        It should re-inforce your belief.
        Christians need to know the prophetic teachings of Christ and the Apostles:since many clergy don’t bother with it then at least read it yourselves.

        {Well done for putting up your crosses and keeping your faith with a proper understanding of what Christmas is all about!

        And you are very lucky because (1)you have loads of “oil for your lamp”(see Matthew 25 the parable of the ten girls) and (2) you know that God’s Great Checkmate is due(see 2 Thessalonians 1 v 3-12,Matthew chpt 13 v 47-50 The parable of the net)}

        • MADPATRIOT says

          Dec 4, 2017 at 11:20 am

          I cannot believe in this day and age that there are so many ignorant and mindless people
          who are willing to be lead by the nose into hell for eternity by such vile and disgusting people; muslims!

  12. utis says

    Dec 3, 2017 at 7:40 pm

    So which holiday will they give up next? Valentine’s Day? Easter? Why should “inclusiveness” equal neutering of non-muslim customs? If the Europeans don’t fight now, their kids will have nothing but Ramadan and animal slaughter to celebrate. “Diversity” includes the concept of difference. That includes the Cross, where appropriate and traditional.

    • LeftisruiningCanada says

      Dec 3, 2017 at 7:48 pm

      Hey, don’t forget that one where we march through the streets cutting our scalps with machetes because a leader after mohammad died. I like that one.

      • ChristianBosnia says

        Dec 3, 2017 at 8:02 pm

        That is known as the Ashura it is celebrated by Shia muslims

        • LeftisruiningCanada says

          Dec 3, 2017 at 8:40 pm

          That’s the one.

  13. ChristianBosnia says

    Dec 3, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    Europe needs a real Christian revival today,more than ever before

  14. James Pierce says

    Dec 3, 2017 at 11:15 pm

    Christmas is a Christian, religious holiday. It always has been and it always will be. This reminds me of how infuriated I felt when Obama declared that he and his family were celebrating a “secular Christmas”. There is no such thing.

    • WPM says

      Dec 4, 2017 at 6:48 am

      Obama and crew were and are anti Western anti American one world dolts.

  15. gravenimage says

    Dec 3, 2017 at 11:38 pm

    Belgium: Cross removed from St. Nicholas’ miter so as to avoid offending Muslims
    ………………………

    Isn’t just having an old fellow in a beard who isn’t going to rape children Haram?

  16. CogitoErgoSum says

    Dec 4, 2017 at 1:11 am

    Christianity is not meant to be exclusive but rather inclusive of everyone and is open to all who wish to be a part of it. If Muslim children like Saint Nicholas I would guess that it is because they are drawn to his spirit of kindness and generosity …. the same spirit of kindness and generosity that led Christ willingly to the cross. If any Muslim child feels excluded by being in the presence of the symbol of the cross it is because of Islam and not Christianity. The love of Christ is there for everyone and the only ones who will ever be excluded from that love are those who exclude themselves. Such is the pity of this story.

    • MADPATRIOT says

      Dec 4, 2017 at 11:39 am

      NO, CHRISTMAS IS THE CELEBRATION OF THE BIRTH OF CHRIST AND ALL THAT CHRISTIANS BELIEVE…IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE INCLUSIVE….IT IS ONLY FOR THOSE THAT BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST IS OUR SAVIOR; THAT HE DIED ON THE CROSS FOR ALL SIN, FOR ALL TIME , FOR ALL MANKIND. That means that it is up to a person to decide who they believe in and to accept Him and His grace…otherwise they are blasphemers and are NOT one of us. There is a price to pay for this so called inclusive diversity crap and it is a one way ticket to HELL. Sure anyone that wishes to find out about Christianity can and we welcome that, but they cannot have the benefit of all the goodies of it, if they are not Christians….how backwards! Kindness and generosity is for those God chooses and loves. Granted He created everyone and loves everyone but THEY MUST LOVE HIM AND THE TRUTH TOO……IT IS A TWO WAY STREET OF TRUTH AND THE BIBLE; GODS WORD. NO ONE GETS TO HEAVEN WITHOUT FIRST BELIEVING IN THE SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS OF JESUS CHRIST…..THE ATONEMENT FOR MANKIND’S EVIL SIN. Yes, we all still sin but once a believing you make every effort not to and learn to have the intimate relationship with your faith in the Lord!!! THE LOVE OF CHRIST IS THERE FOR ANYONE BUT THEY IN TURN ,SUT BELIEVE IN THE TRUTH OR THEY ARE LYING BLASPHEMERS….THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH TO HEAVEN WITHOUT FAITH AND THE WORK IN THE FAITH THAT COMES FROM THE BELIEVING IN HIM, THE BIBLE AND THE TRINITY!!! PERIOD!!!! IT IS THIS KUMBAYA NONSENSE THAT IS SCRAMBLING CHURCHES INTO ALLOWING GAY MINISTERS, BOTH MEN AND WOMEN, the coexist nonsense that says God and Heaven are all the same from all religions who all RE-ARRANGE WHAT THE TRUTH IS TO SUIT THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS, AND LIVINGS LIFE AS IF THERE IS NO END AND NO PAYMENT FOR SINS….in for a BIG surprise when the end comes then!

      • CogitoErgoSum says

        Dec 4, 2017 at 1:28 pm

        Madpatriot, I had a feeling I would get a response such as yours. I said Christianity is for anyone who wants to be a part of it and I WILL NOT change my belief in that. If a person likes celebrating Christmas that’s fine with me even if that person is not a baptized Christian. Whether or not God accepts that person’s soul into heaven is not really any of my business; that’s between each individual and God. My own opinion is that if a person excludes Christ and His cross from his Christmas celebrations then he is not really celebrating Christmas … but if a person DOES want to include Christ and the cross and Mary and Joseph and St. Nicholas or any other part of Christianity, I do not think any Christian should prohibit it or classify it as some form of “cultural appropriation” or worse yet, think of it as being offensive.

        If Muslims don’t like the sign of the cross that’s their problem …. they can take it or leave it. What you believe when it comes to matters of the spirit should be up to you and what I believe should be up to me. I won’t force the cross upon anyone but neither will I take it away from those who are willing to accept it. St. Nicholas accepted Christ and His cross and that should not be taken away from him …. by anyone for any reason. I would call doing such a thing a sin but the final judgment on that is not mine to make. I’ll leave it at that.

        Oh, and whatever your own personal beliefs are about it, I do wish you a Merry Christmas.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 5, 2017 at 12:10 am

        There are many who celebrate aspects of a secular Christmas–including many devout Christians.

        Unlike Muslims, devout Christians do not want to murder people who put up Christmas trees or visit Santa Claus.

  17. KRJ says

    Dec 4, 2017 at 4:38 am

    I find it extremely offensive whenever I see women in our western countries in headscarves (which btw must also cover their chest area, not just head) and worse, those f-ing chadors. Why are we putting up with this? Feminists? Where are you?

  18. John Forbes says

    Dec 4, 2017 at 10:03 am

    THE EUROPEANS SURE QUIT EASILY!
    ISLAM HAS WON HERE ALREADY.
    THE BELGIUM SEEM TO HAVE NO CHRISTIAN VALUES THAT THEY SEE AS WORTH FIGHTING FOR ANYWAY!
    I GUESS DOUGLAS MURRAY MUST BE RIGHT! EUROPE IS EXHAUSTED & THE STORY HAS RUN OUT!
    THEY POSSIBLY SEEM TO BELIEVE THAT A – CHANGE IS AS GOOD AS REST ANYWAY!
    I BELIEVE THAT ONCE YOU HAVE LOST SOMETHING LIKE – FREE SPEECH & DEMOCRACY THEN THE VALUES MAY SURFACE BUT ALSO MAYBE NOT?
    HARD TO SAY REALLY BUT IT SEEMS – QUIT THEY HAVE ALREADY !

  19. meturaf says

    Dec 4, 2017 at 10:10 am

    These Europeans are mental. As as an Israeli and a Jew, I get a kick out and warm feeling inside of watching Christians enjoy their holiday and being happy, seeing them with their families going off to Church of visiting family, and I get pissed off just as much when either a Supreme Court order against Nativity scenes or an act of offense is condoned in order to kowtow to the most murderous system of rule since Stalin and Pol Pot.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 5, 2017 at 12:17 am

      Thank you, meturaf. I love Israel–the only nation in the Middle East with religious freedom.

  20. Troybeam says

    Dec 4, 2017 at 10:18 am

    Giving up a portion of your nations identity as not to offend Islam, yo thats really stupid, might as well accept Islam as you’ve already given them a huge step up.

  21. underbed cat says

    Dec 4, 2017 at 10:58 am

    Then it should be “even steven”ie equal treatment, no “ramadan”., no isis flags, or cresent moons….but I am afraid it would not go over so good, they again would be offended at religious intolerance. huummph!

    • MADPATRIOT says

      Dec 4, 2017 at 11:49 am

      Just as muslims are massive intolerant, subjugated and satanic in their practices……THAT ALL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CHRISTIANITY, GOD’S LOVE OR OR THE TRUTH. HE LOVES HIS CREATION; MANKIND BUT HE HATES OUR SIN, PERIOD.

      TRY telling the muslims that what they believe is not welcome in a christian church and tell them the truth
      and see what they do. Given The chance some do accept it and see how horrified they have been living and that islam is evil and just a terrible way to think.

  22. Ray Jarman says

    Dec 4, 2017 at 4:28 pm

    I spent three years in Nigeria where the call to prayer sounded every morning well before I was ready to start my day. No Muslim asked me if it annoyed me, quite to the contrary, they could have cared less since I was in their culture and I had no right to complain. I once questioned (in good humour and taken in the manner it was given) a local member of the Embassy staff in Abuja as we were driving to the airport early in the morning as the call to prayer was sounding as to why Muslims could not use an alarm clock. He laughed and said that President Obasanjo does not provide the people with enough reliable power for clocks and most Nigerians could not afford batteries for clocks either. This was in good humour as we were close friends but the fact is that I was a guest as are the Muslims in western countries, especially those given refugee status. It is appalling for these people who having destroyed their own home lands to ask for safety in someone’s home and then attempting to force that good Samaritan to change his way of life for them.

    In Iraq the good hosts would go to the morning call where they would pray to their allah that their missiles and mortars would kill the people who were there to furnish aid to them. Every morning like an alarm clock, these peaceful thugs would launch their attacks about half past six. When these pernicious thugs enter the land of Christians, Hindus, Jews, Buddhist or any other culture, they should be forced to show allegiance that nation.

    • Flavius Claudius Iulianus says

      Dec 5, 2017 at 2:08 am

      “When these pernicious thugs enter the land of Christians, Hindus, Jews, Buddhist or any other culture, they should be forced to show allegiance that nation.”

      All things considered, I would prefer that those “pernicious thugs” not enter the Dar al Harb. They can continue to be as they are back in their beloved but ruined Dar al Islam.

  23. Flavius Claudius Iulianus says

    Dec 4, 2017 at 7:57 pm

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/12/04/belgian-red-cross-demands-branches-remove-crucifixes/

  24. Sepp says

    Dec 4, 2017 at 8:26 pm

    The website given below honors SAINT NICHOLAS OF MYRA with content that is extensive. It would be easy to spend considerable time exploring the website.

    It includes articles, sermons, prayers, hymns, music, books, Icons, other artistic images, and so on.

    Please visit the Saint Nicholas Center and share it with others.

    http://www.stnicholascenter.org

  25. Suebe says

    Dec 7, 2017 at 8:30 am

    Where are the Christians? Why are they not protesting such things? I can not believe there are no Christians that are upset over this. Shame on them, they can not be Christians if they allow such things to happen. In about 20 years they will regret letting these Muslims in their country. I do believe they will lose their heads to the Anti-Christ, or they will be Muslim themselves. Run Run Run

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