The real grave mistake will be if President Trump bows to this intimidation, which will only encourage more of it.
“Erdogan calls Islamic summit next week on Jerusalem,” AFP, December 6, 2017:
ANKARA (AFP) – Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is calling a summit of the main pan-Islamic body in Istanbul on December 13 to discuss the expected US move to recognise Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, his spokesman said on Wednesday.
“In the face of developments that arouse sensitivity over the status of Jerusalem, Mr President is calling a leaders’ summit of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) in order to display joint action among Islamic countries,” presidential spokesman Ibrahim Kalin told reporters in Ankara.
He said the summit meeting would take place on December 13. There was no immediate confirmation from Muslim leaders if they would come.
Turkey currently holds the chairmanship of the OIC.
The recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and the moving of the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem — expected to be announced by President Donald Trump later Wednesday — would be a “grave mistake” against international agreements, Kalin warned.
“Jerusalem is our honour, Jerusalem is our common cause, Jerusalem is our red line,” he added, urging the Trump administration to “return from this grave mistake immediately”.
Deputy Prime Minister Bekir Bozdag said the expected US move risked igniting a “fire” in the Middle East and will prove a “great disaster”.
The recognition will “throw the region and the world into a fire and it’s not known when it will end”, Bozdag, also government spokesman, wrote on Twitter.
Bozdag said such a step which showed “great intolerance and mindlessness” would “destroy the peace process”.
– ‘Chaos and instability’ –
Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu told reporters in Brussels ahead of meeting US counterpart Rex Tillerson that the move is a “mistake” that “will not bring stability and peace but rather chaos and instability.”
Asked whether he would bring the issue up with Tillerson, the minister said: “I have already told him and I will tell him again.”
Erdogan had warned Tuesday that the status of Jerusalem is a “red line” for Muslims and could even prompt Turkey to cut ties with Israel….
Abdellah Choukri Ex Muslim says
Erdogan is one of the most fascist dictators of the world and EU left parties still flatter him! totally absurd
Frank Anderson says
EVERYTHING is a moslem red line. Turkey OUT of NATO. US Out of Turkey. Good riddance.
john spielman says
US out of the UN and get the UN out of the US
Keys says
+2
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
The end of the UN? But, but, but what will Trudeau do for a living after the Canadian people vote his sorry arse out of government?
gravenimage says
Agreed.
Keys says
+1
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
+1
LeftisruiningCanada says
True that. This is just today’s red line.
roberta says
There seems to be no red line in front of sodomy, murder, theft, extortion, begging.
You speak like they are intractable.
Frank Anderson says
Roberta, anything connected with islam is intractable. Islam is “perfect, complete, final, and unchangeable.” There is nothing available to them for us other than “convert, submit or die.” Any promise a muslim makes to an infidel is utterly meaningless, because Mo promised safe passage to a community of Jews if they dropped their weapons and left their fortified “village”. When they believed him, Mo slaughtered them as soon as they were exposed. As Mo was the perfect man and the perfect example to follow in ALL issues, lying to obtain any advantage over infidels is approved, required and encouraged.
What compromise is possible between death, slavery or liberty? Is there just a little death or slavery, or a small loss of liberty? “What’s mine is mine; What’s yours is negotiable!” That’s the Islamic view. How does one deal with a person or group who has openly proclaimed for 1400 years that infidels do not deserve any binding promises? All this crap about negotiating peace deals is just that.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes. Turkey needs to be kicked out of NATO, pronto.
mortimer says
Recognizing Jerusalem would lead to INSTABILITY? Oh, really? I believe the reverse is true. Once Jerusalem is recognized, there will be no turning back. The ‘peace process’ which consists of making the Pally leaders multi-millionaires is fraudulent.
Stability will ensue when the rights of Israel to establish its own capital (like any other country) and to exist as the Jewish homeland are finally respected by all.
To say, as they do, that Jews have no right to a homeland is purely genocidal ideation which the modern world has rejected. We cannot continue to humor Bronze-Age savages.
Frank Anderson says
Mortimer, you are correct on this one!
William says
First of all we should not EVER dictated to of any foreign government what is our policy least of all the dictators from rogue states. Turkey, PA, NK, Iran, EU, or UN.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“To say, as they do, that Jews have no right to a homeland is purely genocidal ideation which the modern world has rejected. We cannot continue to humor Bronze-Age savages.”
Agreed.
Notice how muslims are so quick to claim undercover racism if someone opposes them, but their own koran commanded racism is never allowed to be mentioned when they openly work for the destruction of an entire people?
gravenimage says
Good post, Mortimer.
Dum Spiro says
OIC what’s going on now (thanks in large part to the insights provided by people like Robert Spencer, David Wood, Pam Geller, Bill Warner and Nabeel Qureshi).
You can too…
— Spero
Barbara Paolucci says
Islam wasn’t created until the 8th or 9th century. They have no claim to Jerusalem. Jews and Christians do, their history in Jerusalem goes back thousands of years. This move is long overdue. So glad we have a president with the guts to do it.
Barbara Paolucci says
The only thing I would add is that Israel needs to protect the Christian sites in Jerusalem. They really don’t do that now. The room where Christ met his Disciples after the Crucifixion was trashed by Muslims years ago. That has to be stopped and protecting Christian sites should be a condition for Israel to gain that embassy in Jerusalem.
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, many important Christian sites, like Bethlehem, are in the “Palestinian” territories, and have no protection at all.
Georg says
Erdogan, the creep extraordinaire.
ChristianBosnia says
If there was a time that sticks needed to be used against Turkey,that time would be now.No more appeasement and tolerance Turkey,they were built on the genocide of Christians
D Austin says
Erdogan is on record as stating the Turks will capture Jerusalem during the next world war because they ruled it for 400 years. Erdogan is also trying to heal the wound to the head (Ottoman Empire) as it comes up on its 100 year death anniversary.
Hugo Hackenbush says
Love that photo of Erdogan. I KNEW I’d seen that face before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u4b_0gqObI
Westman says
Notice that the thumb of his right hand appears to be pushing the button of a detonator..
HugoHavkenbush says
He need better tools with which to express himself: Someone give that man a shoe!
Ammianus says
Perhaps Erdogan should consider giving Constantinople/Istanbul back to its original owners? Or better yet why don’t all Turks leave “Turkey” and move back to herding goats on the Eurasian steppe?
LeftisruiningCanada says
They might at least get the H*ll out of Cyprus.
gfmucci says
Erdogan’s bluster is exactly what most Muslims do to arrogantly foist Islam in our faces. It is just a part of their belief in Islamic supremacy – imposing their barbaric ideology onto the Kair. Islam truly is more “political ideology” than religion since so many of its adherents attempt to force it on non-Muslims by whatever means they deem necessary. That is what orthodox Islam requires.
gfmucci says
Kafir, not Kair. I can’t wait for this “Reply” app to be brought up to date so we can correct such things.
Michael Copeland says
“Does Islam or does it not force people by the power of the sword to submit? ….Yes!”
Osama bin Laden
SAM says
This is in a way good news. Erdogan can not any longer play games pretending he is a friend of US and Israel. He is a stupid Muslim dictator. He has one good thing going on that no one including his Muslim friends likes him. I would not be surprised if he is assassinated today.
dumbledoresarmy says
Trump should root up Fethullah Gulen and all the Muslim Gulen movement stealth jihadis and send them back to Turkey, gift-wrapped.
Wish Gulen and Erdogan much joy of each other…
Terry Gain says
Muslims show their worth by refusing to let the Jews live in peace. The Palestinians already have a State. It is called Jordan. And yet Muslims begrudge Jews a tiny stirip of desert land.
Post Holocaust anyone who does not support the right of Jews to live peacefully in the sanctuary of their ancestral homeland is morally depraved. But what else would you expect from people who adhere to an ideology invented by a totalitarian, mass murdering, slave-taking, rapist, pedophile and terrorist.
The future must not belong to those who follow this wretched example.
pemba says
Turkey and Iran are cry-babies in this case.
common sense says
Erdogan, the Saudis, the left and most Muslims around the world don’t like it. Yeah cool, must be the correct course of action and the right thing to do.
Trump is doing a great job. A great job. JAY O BEE. JOB. He recognizes the office as such unlike his flimsy predecessor.
Geoffrey Britain says
Oh… Erdogan looks pissed. Maybe he’ll seize the nukes at our air base and then we
can send him a nuclear present and add to his collection.
Tjhawk says
This lays bare the well crafted lie of big, bad Israel oppressing tiny helpless palestinians.
It is now, and has always been tiny, free Israel against the entire, totalitarian islamic world.
I was a kid, but I can remember educated people cheering for Israel in ‘67 and ‘73. The success of the Palestinian narrative in changing public and academic opinion may be top two or three in the history of propaganda.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
Voytek Gagalka says
And they can do… WHAT? Put “sanctions” on the US? WHO is more dependent on WHOM? New oil embargo? The US has more oil reserves than the rest of Islamic world. And if they start to “play the games,” just take over their oil fields and they “house of cards” will surely collapse.
gravenimage says
Voytek, this is is really just a threat of further Jihad violence.
Sarah says
Ahh the OIC. 57 Islamic nations who huddle together in Saudi Arabia to shriek their outrage about the West and express their deep and abiding hatred for all of us, while covetously and jealously attempting to horde every single possible technological, scientific and medical advancement that they can purchase from the West and the rest of the world.
The list of nations in the OIC is a who’s who of all the nasty little things that we’ve come to recognize come hand in hand with Islam. Things like high rates in poverty, disease, violence and war. Things like low rates in literacy, civil rights and employment.
Let them froth at the mouth and wave their fists in outrage over the ‘red line’ of recognizing Jerusalem as a capital. We cannot negotiate with these savage’s. We’ve wasted decades trying for peace- the Middle East and Africa are in an even worse mess today.
While they gather in Jeddah to enjoy the obscene luxury of the decadent Saudi’s and hiss their threats with spittle on their hateful lips, the only course of action we need to undertake, is to just keep getting on with life – and ignore them.
And if they try to bring the fight to us, in any way, shape or form? Destroy them all. I am done with playing around with this. Turn every Islamic nation into glass for all I care, anymore.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
yes, Muslim nations have to isolate the evil entity called the United States that will lead to its total collapse.
Sarah says
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Look Ibrahim, I would 100% honestly, throw a party if America were isolated by the Islamic nations of the world. Hell – while they’re at it – tell them to isolate ALL of the West, pretty please!!
Without us, the Islamic world can kiss goodbye to the extraordinary flow of foreign aid that is all that keeps their nations afloat.
Without us, the Islamic world will no longer have access to our nations to ‘seek asylum’ in, finally cutting off the droves of Muslims who rush for our lands day in, day out, year after year.
Without us, the Islamic world will descend back into the primitive savagery that is its birth-right. After all, without us, there won’t be anymore sharing of the technological, scientific, medical or engineering marvels and advancements that the Islamic world love to take advantage of, but are too inbred, too stupid, too lazy and too poorly educated to create and innovate themselves.
Pakistan will lose its ability to run its own electricity grids before the month is out. Not to mention start dying off at rapid speed from Polio and all the other feral diseases they can’t keep a handle on without us.
Egypt will starve within a fortnight of the foreign aid tap being disconnected
The Gulf State’s won’t be selling their natural resources because A) they won’t have the West to sell it to and B) they won’t have the West from which to source skilled and qualified workers from to run the mining, manufacturing and development of their natural resources – because God knows the Gulf States have proven they’re too inbred and far too low-IQ and completely lacking in any motivation to educate themselves in how to do all of that themselves.
The Somali’s wont even have landlines before the month is out. They keep ripping up their own copper network to sell as scrap!! Its down to the Western workers to not only introduce the concept of a copper telecommunications landline network to them, but to install it and maintain it. And to prevent the primitive moron’s from digging it up to sell for a few cents per metre length they steal from their own country.
Hell – what is the entire Islamic world going to do, when they can no longer rush off to the West and declare that they ‘need asylum’?
Want me to keep going on? Because I can spend all day listing the pathetic primitive incompetence of every single one of the 57 Islamic nation’s that belong to the OIC.
Face it Ibrahim, the Muslims would be utterly, royally screwed without the West to lean on. You bunch would be back to riding around the desert on camels and horses, brandishing poorly constructed swords at one another, braying and fighting over a handful of tents and abused wives within 5 years of the West being isolated from the Islamic world
But – I’m all for it. I’ll support your call to isolate us all. Go on – do it. Just wait long enough for me to go make my popcorn, so I’ve got something good to munch on while I watch your ilk and their ‘world’ tear each other apart and fall to pieces.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Sarah, Muslims are presently boycotting products from evil United States ,they use substitute from friendly nations líke China. campaigns are ongoing to do more isolation of evil Jewish slave the United States.
gravenimage says
If Muslims actually refused to buy products from civilized nations, they would just further isolate themselves. Sounds good to me.
LeftisruiningCanada says
A handful of feckless muslims may be depriving themselves of Starbucks or whatever, but every one of the 57 or so OIC nations are dependent on the west for anything of value, apart from oil, which the US doesn’t even need from them anymore.
Makes not one bit of difference to the US, not one.
While you guys save yourselves a pittance with your silly BDS style tactics, Qatar gives the USA 12 BILLION DOLLARS for some of last seasons fighter aircraft.
Sarah says
Oh Ibrahim. you need to do some research before you opening your silly mouth.
Boycotting the United States, huh? Well, you might want to tell that to Bahrain, Jordan, Morocco, Oman and Singapore – all who have established free trade agreements with the United States..
You might also want to that to Saudi Arabia, Algeria,, Bahrain, Qatar, the UAE, Kuwait, Yemen, Tunisia, Turkey and Oman – all who have established TIFA agreements with the United States.
Or have a chat with Jordan and Egypt about the QIZ’s that they signed with the United States – you know what a QIZ is? Its an agreement wherein Jordan and Egypt allow the United States access to transport goods directly from Israel to the United States, through their nations. Yeah, those big bad Jewish people..
Funny how money talks – and Muslims are epic hypocrites when it comes to cash, right?
Should I list all the Islamic nations that have agreements for trade and commerce with the rest of the West? Or are you just happy to spew hatred about the United States?
Plus its not just trade and commerce agreements. There’s foreign aid to remember… The United States is personally propping up a huge amount of the Islamic world – gifting you loser’s with charity. Without that charity, you couldn’t feed yourselves, let alone run your nations.
So let’s see..You might want to tell these countries, that ‘boycotting’ American goods and services is laughably redundant, when they’re reliant on the milk of American kindness just to survive. Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan, West Bank/Gaza, Ethiopia, Sudan, Malawi, Nigeria, Lebanon and Somalia.
Then of course, there’s the Development Assistance Database program run by the United States that provides foreign aid to the following Islamic nations – to help drag them out of the primitive conditions they live in and to try and develop their economies, countries like Afghanistan, Indonesia, Iraq, Nigeria, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Comoros, Kazakhstan, Maldives, Mauritania, Rwanda, Sierra Leone and Tajikistan. Bit hard to boycott when you’ve got your feeble hands out for cold hard cash just to help you develop your country since you can’t do it yourselves, huh?
And we cannot forget the Feed The Future Initiative. That’s yet another United States aid program designed to help feed people. You know, because Muslims love to breed, but can’t run effective nation’s wherein they can feed themselves properly. So you might want to tell Mali, Tajikistan, Bangladesh, Rwanda and Senegal, that they need to start boycotting American products – you know, whilst being fed by America..
Then there is the Food For Peace Act. That’s a United States initiative that feeds people in countries where people can’t feed themselves. Countries where the poverty rates are so significant (despite the extraordinary breeding statistics) that they require the United States to offer them FOOD as long as they don’t pick up a weapon and merrily slaughter everyone in their immediate vicinity. So please feel free to have a chat with Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, Lebanon, West Bank/Gaza, Libya, Morocco, Iraq, Yemen, Djibouti, Eritrea, Mauritius, Rwanda, Somalia, Niger, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Sudan, Bangladesh, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyz Republic, Maldives, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. Now this bunch need food -so they might not care too much about boycotting American goods – but by all means, ask away.
Plus there’s also the massive weaponry sales that the United States has made to the Gulf States. Many many many billions of dollars of military gear.. Want to tell the Arabs in the Gulf to boycott that, too?
You’re so full of it, Ibrahim. Do you really think boycotting America means not watching The Simpsons reruns on TV and not drinking Coca Cola?
gravenimage says
How many times has Ibrahim itace muhammed said Muslims are going to destroy the United States now?
don vito says
-50
Doghouse Riley says
Arm the Kurds with nukes! Now!
awake says
May God Bless President Trump!
John Smith says
Good, let the war begin! The quicker it starts the quicker we can wipe that evil murderous pedophile cult of islam off the planet!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
John, the war has already started tactically. you are a madman thinking that your evil United States could confront Muslims with ease. No nation confront all Muslims and survive. Try it and see the consequences.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Have you ever watched a show called “Living Planet”? It’s a nature show narrated by the venerable Sir David Attenborough.
There’s one scene they filmed in Ethiopia where a town deliberately feeds the hyenas with unused bones from their butchers shops. The people think the animals protect them from bad juju or something. Or maybe they just like them. whatever.
Well, this is obviously a nice prize for the pack of hyenas that can hold on to the place. Sometimes other packs try to run them out of the town, and they have these confrontational battles outside the walls of the city. They can go for hours, charging back and forth at each other. There is no real order or plan in these face offs; sometimes one little group will run forward, then another scares them back, some of the group split off afraid, some stand still. It’s chaos really.
And you know what i thought when i saw that? That it showed the difference between feral gangs of beasts fighting in the street, not knowing what the man next to him was going to do, and the ordered discipline of well trained western armies.
If the cowardly islamic nations were able to stand a fair fight, they’d have done it already. Instead, they skulk about like the lying degenerates they are, abusing everything good and decent that we’ve made, in the worst and most corrupt ways possible.
That wonderful symbol of love and peace we know as the koran even allows for this kind of deception. My, what a wonderful book it is. And mohammad, what a beautiful human.
Andrew says
How many times have Arabs attacked Israel and have been beaten back? If western leaders stopped their policy of appeasement and stood up against muslim violence, I think the outcome would be something other than what you envisage. Like all bullies who target the weak and defenceless, they soon back down when someone fights back.
Targeting non combatants mostly, is not something to be proud of.
Frank Anderson says
John, islam declared war 1400 years ago. They have never made or declared peace. The only reason they slow or stop killing for a while is fear or exhaustion. It has been estimated here that *about*-*about* 300 million people have died in this war, which I estimate to be twice the combined total killed of Hitler, Stalin and Mao. It seems to me there is nothing tactical about a 1400 year killing spree that has murdered more or less 300 million people. Quoting, or at least paraphrasing, another noted author and convert out of islam, Mark Gabriel, Ph.D, “If islam was such a great deal why were 4,000,000 Egyptians murdered to bring it in?” The Unfinished Battle. The options offered by islam are “convert, submit or die”. I think there are at least 2 more: If not in a position to resist at the moment, escape and join others to build the strength to resist and win. Futile, weak and ineffective resistance gestures are a waste of time, resources and life.
sidney penny says
“Erdogan had warned Tuesday that the status of Jerusalem is a “red line” for Muslims and could even prompt Turkey to cut ties with Israel”
“prompt Turkey to cut ties with Israel”
AS Clint Eastwood would say ” go ahead make my day”
Phantomfighter27 says
The Satanic Muslims know no bounds. Red Lines are laughable to Westerners who understand that until Islam has a Reformation, peaceful instead of vengeful, anybody who has a sense sanity understands that Islam is a 7th century religion Hell Bent on taking the whole world into Submission by force or by any other means. Well, The U.S. President has injected politics into a situation that required our U.S. commitment to a LAW passed in 1995 to make Jerusalem home for our legal embassy. Let them rise up against it, shine the light on the cockroaches, they will be seen once and for all- and all those who preach Hatred and Death. When the Jackals come out to attack in full force, the Lion that sleeps will finally arrive to show the Jackals who he is. Just know that “Jerusalem is the Cup of God’s Wrath.”
gravenimage says
Erdogan: “Jerusalem is our red line,” Trump making “grave mistake,” calls emergency OIC meeting
………………….
More threats. I hope President Trump tells him to take a hike.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Gravenimage, a satan(holy spirit) dedicated worshiper,it is now clear for all Turks that filthy Christian westerners hate them simply because they are Muslims. Let all Turks tear all symbols of secularism in their national life and pull down kemali statue. with that Turkey will be great Islamic nation. Evil United States shall be far away from Turkey, it has been sabotaging Turkey to stop fast growing Turkish economy.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“it is now clear for all Turks that filthy Christian westerners hate them simply because they are Muslims”
Nothing could be further from the truth. This seems normal in your postings.
Turks are great. I’m happy to call several Turks friends, and have been treated very well in their country, often by strangers.
We don’t hate Turks because they want to follow islam. The problem comes when they want to follow islam to the point that tension and fighting is likely to occur. The problem comes when the Turkish leadership feels that islam is an excuse to threaten violence over things like where a nation wants to call it’s capital.
Matthieu Baudin says
“…’Jerusalem is our honour, Jerusalem is our common cause, Jerusalem is our red line’…”
Yeah, Turkey ran a line through Cyprus years ago that still hasn’t faded because they think that whatever land they manage to occupy is theirs forever.
Troybeam says
https://diyanetamerica.org
The above link is to the Turkish Mosque built by Erdogon while Obama was in office, it’s 100 million dollars of Turkish property compound across the river in Maryland facing Washington DC. Each and every piece of American land that is sold to a Muslim becomes an Islamic state, it adheres to sharia law, teaches sharia law and who know who they bring in disguised as some holy figure to take up residence within our nation, this people of America may likely become a strong hold for Islam to attack our nation starting with our elected officials that approved this monstrosity with the exception of Obama, a fellow Muslim in disguise as a do gooder nothing.
Champ says
Erdogan is p’od so things are definitely moving in the right direction …hope he implodes!