Europe’s new masters.
“Italy: Christmas tree forbidden not to hurt sensibility of non-Christians,” European Post, December 16, 2017:
The traditional Christmas tree in the town hall of the Italian city of Bolzano (Bozen), in Trentino Alto Adige has been removed not to hurt the sensibility of non-Christian believers, the association “Veterani dello Sport” denounced as reported by Il Giornale.
The “Association of Veterans” organised an event in the public room of the Town Hall to award the “Athlete of the year” prize. They decorated the room with traditional Christmas symbols and, given the Christmas time, once they finished their event they left a Christmas tree decoration. The problem arrived the day after, when they received a call from an office of the Town Hall asking to remove the Christmas tree because there would have been a meeting of a Muslim association in the same room and ‘the tree could hurt their sensibility,’ the president of the Association Alberto Ferrini said.
jihad3tracker says
WHY DON’T ABOUT 90% OF CHURCHES IN ITALY JUST SPEED UP SURRENDER BY LETTING MUSLIMS CONVERT THEM INTO MOSQUES ????
“Get it over with” —- as that old expression goes. Leave 10% as they were for the faithful who still have testicles, and fortitude against cowardice.
Andy says
Where I live I have a Christian cross on my shed year round and when I go out I wear my Star of David and Christian cross proudly around my neck and am not afraid.
Why are people so afraid of these government officials in the western world countries?
I think there are more people of common sense
We should all stand up and start to get together to take back our Judeo-Christian countries and stop being afraid of these George Soros paid globalists!!!
Jesus The Christ (No Other Name)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0un7p4dYTMA
Yeshua Hamashiach – Jesus Is Lord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-j_1e13qlE
jihad3tracker says
HELLO ANDY —- Thank you for posting this beautiful video witnessing for Jesus as Redeemer & Lord, and telling us of your faith.
By the way, I have mentioned Dr. David Wood many times here on Jihad Watch — but if you do not already know of him, please go to www [dot] answeringmuslims [dot] com.
That is his blog, with years of videos about his own journey from self-centered sickness onward to deeply centering his life upon Christ.
Karen says
There is no higher name!
Save Europe says
I wear my Russian Orthodox crucifix necklace with pride, here in the UK. I’m proud of my Russian lineage, plus it does aggravate Orthodox Muslims, like garlic does to vampires.
BC says
I can easily think of several ways in which Muslims offend me, but to ask them to do something about it would be surely ‘islamophobic’
M says
Yes, my first thought after reading this article was What about MY being offended going to the town hall and seeing no Christmas tree??!
What’s that saying..to find out who rules over you, find out who you aren’t allowed to criticize?
TruthWFree says
Had a priest tell me “we all pray to the same God”. I told him exactly what you are saying. If so (same God) weak Christians will become Muslims under persecution and weak Muslims will not come to faith in Christ if Christian leaders (like the Pope) are stating that FALSE mantra.. He said “How do you know that?”. I said, “Look at Turkey, the home of the seven churches of Revelation…99.8% Muslim now”.
J D S says
“Offending Muslims” Has all the west lost its mind?
I’m offended that Muslims who have come to America, not to find a better life, but to try to destroy the life that we have fought, spilled blood and died for….I agree that our leaders have failed us…but we have also failed ourselves ….We have not stood our ground…We have sat back and not done much to hold on to our values…….I believe all this started when we allowed prayer and other Christian offerings to be removed from our schools and we did very little to stop the onslaught into one of our freedoms…..Once the left seen what could be done to just one of our freedoms then that started the snowball rolling.
To see what can be done if one stands up for what they believe and make a change just look what happened with the black movement under the leadership of Martin Luther King Jr. They stood up for their rights…Why are we not doing the same when we see what is happening to our freedoms and way of life and seeing a so called religious sect trying to force us to accept it.
There in no Christian leader that can do What MLK Jr. was able to accomplish with the black movement…one reason is that our diverse beliefs in “our” religion…so no one person will ever be able to lead in a Christian movement to restore the Christian agenda in the west.
There is no government leader or anyone else for that matter who will take charge and lead a non violent movement to restore our freedoms, (and stop what the Muslims are trying to do) as set up in the constitution, and even if there was such a person I’m afraid there might not be a following……..Speaking of the constitution…two areas have bee wrongly interpreted….
Freedom of religion and freedom of speech…
Freedom of religion was set up to be sure that one was not forced to follow a state religion…that is one of the reasons our founders came to America…….Freedom of speech…did not mean that pornography, foul language and other areas like this was the norm ….It meant that if one spoke against the king one would not be imprisoned ….The supreme court has overstepped what they were set up to do and now we are having to suffer AND OF COURSE THE MUSLIMS ARE USING OUR FREEDOMS, ((WHAT’S LEFT THAT IS) AGAINST US.
James Davis says
It’s obvious most Gov.’t Politician’s are Spineless. Lying, Coward’s, & Shyster’s,ignoring the Will, of their own citizen’s!!! That describes most of Europe, except Hungary, Poland,Russia, & a few other’s. All Italy need Do, Is Turn The Problem Over To The MAFIA and/or Mussolini’s
New Fascist Party!!! Let these REAL MEN, run the MUSLIM SCUM out of ITALY, once & For All
Time!!!
M says
OK but we don’t need other fascists as a response to islamonazi racists. We just need sanity. Islam should be banned bcs its a vile, violent supremacist death cult. We want a free society not hate.
gravenimage says
Oh, great. We all know how Fascists love Islam. *Ugh*.
Lea Ressler says
I absolutely agree. The situation is totaly absurd. The murderous fanatc Moskems do not hurt our feelings but only terrorise and kill people and brag about it and Christians should not HURT their feeling !! The world is going crazy!!!!!!
gravenimage says
Italian city removes Christmas tree from town hall to avoid offending Muslims
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dhimmi fools.
This is the real war on Christmas.
Chris says
I have been to muslim and buddists countries..guess what they put up christmas trees…the newcomers could careless about a damn tree…it is ultra liberals selling their own religious foundations and using religion to sow resentment and hate…the newcomerx knew italy was catholic before even setting one foot there..that is like going to Saudi Arabia and expecting not see a mosque or hear the Arabic calls to prayer which is really quite beautiful spoken word.
gravenimage says
Chris wrote:
I have been to muslim and buddists countries..guess what they put up christmas trees…
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Conflating Muslims and Buddhists is absurd. Buddhists do not curse those of other faiths in their prayers, nor does Buddhism call for the slaughter of unbelievers.
If a few of the Gulf States and a couple of other spots allow Christmas trees in hotels frequented by Infidels, this does not in any way cancel out Muslims doing things like blowing up churches.
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the newcomers could careless about a damn tree…it is ultra liberals selling their own religious foundations and using religion to sow resentment and hate…the newcomerx knew italy was catholic before even setting one foot there..
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The claim that invading Muslims respect Italy being Christian and have no plans to change that is *quite* mistaken. Here are just a couple of stories from Italy:
“Italy: Muslim sets fire to church Nativity scene”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/01/italy-muslim-sets-fire-to-church-nativity-scene
“Italy: Muslims disrupt Catholic procession with insults and threats”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/05/italy-muslims-disrupt-catholic-procession-with-insults-and-threats
There are many others, from all over Europe and the rest of the West.
Were you unfamiliar with them?
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that is like going to Saudi Arabia and expecting not see a mosque or hear the Arabic calls to prayer which is really quite beautiful spoken word.
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Wait–you *like* Muslims screaming “Allahu Akbar!”–my God is greater than your God!”? Or are you unaware that this is a cry of Muslim supremacy?
It is this very thing that teaches Muslims they can oppress and brutalize non-Muslims.
M says
No that is NOT beautiful “spoken word”. I hate to disagree with you and Obama but it doesn’t sound good to me.
Expat88 says
That’s right no one wants to offend the delicate sensibilities of the Religion of Perpetual Outrage, do they? These kinds of actions are done out of fear, not out of deference to the feelings of Muslims. Cowards!
mortimer says
Agree with Expat: “cowards”.
They fear being bombed. When will the local church get bombed? Or local statues be smashed?
When will they develop some courage?
Soon things will become extremely dangerous throughout Italy. This started 1300 years ago when Muslim pirates began attacking Italy.
gravenimage says
Italians used to stand up to invading Muslim thugs.
Fausto says
These people that live in that region are not Italian they are Germans the language there is German . That explains their liberal cowardly attitudes..
gravenimage says
Fausto, I’m afraid pretending that there is no dhimmitude in Italy outside the Tyrol is simply incorrect.
Hugh Fitzgerald says
What’s next? The panettone?
Benedict says
That’s not unthinkable with to the salami-slice strategy in mind – if the expression is allowed.
Ragdoll says
They can take the panettone.
Just don’t touch my stollen!
M says
Stollen already screwed but hands off my apple pie.
cyrus basile says
mister ragdol,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panettone
gravenimage says
I wish I could post it here, but I illustrated a children’s Christmas book featuring pannetone.
mortimer says
CAPITULATION TO SHARIA LAW!
Here is the process we are seeing: 1) European culture goes forward in FORWARD GEAR, then 2) European culture stops in NEUTRAL GEAR, then 3) European culture goes retrograde to 7th century Arabia in REVERSE GEAR!
From 1) forward to 2) neutral to 3) REVERSE!
PRCS says
The Italian article, translated to English:
“In Bolzano, the association “Veterans of Sport” has reported an unfortunate episode that also poses disturbing questions about the near future. From the municipal hall of Europe in via del Ronco, the image of a Christmas tree was removed as an offensive symbol for Muslims. For the next few days the hall was rented by a Muslim association. But is it possible that a symbol that refers to religious values and tradition can be perceived as hostile and even offensive by those who profess another faith? We turned the question to Fr. Paolo Renner, a well-known South Tyrol theologian
Would be nice to know what Father Paolo Renner had to say.
Muslim 2017 says
Why are you people upset about this move? Christians especially the ones who are educated have come to understand that all this Christmas tree and celebrations have absolutely no biblical basis. Islam the way of life that truly follow the way of the prophets must be respected and accommodated. Kudos to Italy for doing the right thing – Islam is here to stay and peace and goodwill will exist. Islam will create betterment for these societies. Less drugs, stronger families, no alcohol, less murders etc.
As a Muslim who lives in the west, I believe in kindness towards my western people no matter there religion even if we disagree. Killing and bombing civilians is not permitted in Islamic law even in war. No taqiyya there as this is clear from our texts and classical writings.
Thank you Italy, Allahu Akbar.
Ren says
@Muslim 2017
“Islam the way of life that truly follow the way of the prophets…”
Let’s follow Muhammad, the prophet of islam.
Let’s fuck young girls… as young as 9 year old.
Let’s rob.
Let’s kill.
Let’s terrorize people into accepting islam.
Have I forgotten anything?
boakai ngombu says
yes. lest we forget: the allah god of islam (unknowable; the best of all deceivers) is not the greatest.
Terry Gain says
What gives you the right to deny Christans their enjoyment of Christmas trees? You are an Islamofascist. You demand that Islam be accommodated but you don’t accommodate the traditions of western countries.
cyrus basile says
Happens only in small villages of the left. Muslims we know them well for 1400 years have tried to invade Italy but there are never succeeded. Even now the devils of dog pedophile will succeed, we begin to align ourselves all the countries of the right, such as Austria, between not much you will return home, but swimming, so you wash also seen that you smell and you are full of parasites (small parasites on a parasite caveman post monkey evolved) return between the arms of those species of women round, deform and dirty that there calved for track anal, hahaha but how do to be jealous Muslims of similar horrors female?, Perhaps it is for this that are the largest Frequenters of the porn sites hahahaha, is unnecessary that you dream of Western women, you do not have two fundamental requirements for them, i.e. the physical beauty and money, and then they do not go with who smell, is ugly, believes in the devil which bows down by putting your ass in the air and then who comes from the caves of the third world, incompatible with the civilizations barbaric and ignorant, now go, take a hike with camel to four paws drive and continues to dream the blonds that you would never have because as we all know prefer the macho Italian I belong. ps, washed that your smell exits through the speakers, which happens only with the Muslims of grits Satan-Allah and the pedophile The prophet mohamMERD merd ( in the south of Italy and France means shit, i.e. MERD MERDogan as the caliph turgu-afro.Mongo, I advise you to inform you well on drugs, because the frequenters of the centers of detoxication in Europe are in prevalence of North Africa
PRCS says
Nadir Ahmed.
Thomas Brewster says
You’re so right Muslim 2017! Islam will bring peace and happiness to all. That’s why the Middle East is such a wonderful place to live, without any form of sectarian violence, misogyny or intolerance. In every region where Islam manifests itself, joy, love and warm laughter spring up like desert flowers after the rain.
Ren says
@Thomas Brewster
I dream of living in the Middle East.
I dream of living with the muslims that show neither violence, nor misogyny, nor intolerance.
I love islam so much…
Thomas Brewster says
Yes, it is such an endless source of fun, isn’t it. If Islam would not have existed, we would have to invent it.
Ren says
@Thomas Brewster
Muslims enjoy islam so much since Muhammad invented it.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Christians especially the ones who are educated have come to understand that all this Christmas tree and celebrations have absolutely no biblical basis.”
It has been noticed that muslims have difficulty with understanding the Christian position on things like this. From our point of view, it is not necessary to have absolute commands in our scriptures for every little thing we do. The point here is that the idea of a christmas tree is not forbidden to us.
Do you see the difference?
“Islam the way of life that truly follow the way of the prophets must be respected and accommodated.”
Why? we aren’t muslim, and do not wish to be, and certainly do not wish to be seen supporting anything to do with your false prophet.
“Kudos to Italy for doing the right thing – Islam is here to stay and peace and goodwill will exist”
Nothing could be further from the truth. This was not the right thing to do in any conceivable way….apart from the perspective of a muslim, who probably believes, if he were honest with us, that islam must be dominant, and everyone else must cower before it.
It was not the right thing to do, because we should not be enabling islam to replace our culture. Islam will never EVER do anything to make other people feel comfortable, least of all in islamic majority countries. Please see the wonderful example of accommodation recently extended to Christians in Nazareth.
” Islam will create betterment for these societies. Less drugs, stronger families, no alcohol, less murders etc.”
I’d almost say you are trolling with this line, but i actually think you believe it to be true.
Why don’t you go live in Saudi Arabia if you long for your islamic utopia? But let me guess: like your Communist fellow travelers, you will likely say that they do not have true islam there….perhaps even that it has never been achieved……
“As a Muslim who lives in the west, I believe in kindness towards my western people no matter there religion even if we disagree. ”
How would define “kindness” mr muslim? The “three choices” type of kindness? Tell me, just how kindly do you think dhimmis should be treated?
“Killing and bombing civilians is not permitted in Islamic law even in war. No taqiyya there as this is clear from our texts and classical writings.”
No taqiyya? Really? Tell us, who do you consider to be a civilian?
“Thank you Italy, Allahu Akbar.”
Spoken like a true cultist, which is what you are. Neither your awful example of a prophet, nor the god he taught you to worship, is greater than the worst murdering, raping and thieving scum bag sat on death row.
My tone might sound angry in this post, and you’d be right. Although you phrased things nicely, and were far more polite on the surface than some others, everything you said is an insult to every single western person on this site. If you want accommodation for islam, leave us, and go away to somewhere that people want it, with all of the disgusting behaviors it brings with it.
Your islam is a curse upon the earth mr muslim. It brings nothing but pain and oppression and death, however it is practiced. We don’t want it here. Most us would rather it wasn’t anywhere, since it can’t seem to stay happily within it’s own borders….
gottahavehopehope says
Hi , leftsruiningCanadaandAmerica,if your ever in the us. I’d like to have a cup of coffee with you ! !Well done !
LeftisruiningCanada says
sure, i’ll drop you a line through your site. Dark roast with cream please:-)
Michael Casmer says
The use of a Christmas tree has its basis in the Old Testament. “He shall grow as a cedar of Lebanon”. Also, in the New Testament, Christ said “I am the vine, you are the branches”
Freddy says
Sorry I thought it was of Nordic Pagan origin…
mike9a says
another brain washed or product of inbreeding discovered pavement
Cheryl Bond says
Your Religion & your people have NO RIGHT to change society, which IS EXACTLY what your trying to do! You even just stated ALL the things your trying to change & implement in society ie: Sharia Law. You have the right to live the life YOU want to live, no-one is trying to take that away from you, but you do NOT have the right to stop anyone else from living the life THEY have decided to choose!
If you don’t like how Societies are here in these other parts of the world, why don’t you just pack up & go back to the countries that FULLY embrace how you think EVERYONE should live their life? You, and people that think like you, have NO place in our societies that actually respect & protect others rights to freely practice their religion & personal life choices! Your religion, on the other hand does NOT! so stop LYING & saying that it does! Also, Stop trying to tell us all about your “religion of peace” when you KNOW the Koran advocates for Sharia Law & Sharia Law advocates VIOLENCE, by beating wives, sexually mutilating female children, promoting Pedophila not, & violently throwing gay people off buildings…yet at the same time, your men REGULARLY have sex w/ young boy’s [THAT’S GAY BEHAVIOR!] By the way!
Stop demanding we should live as you do, because we’re certainly not demanding you live as we do! The law of the land, NEVER Should bend to anyone’s individual religious “law’s” , it never has for any other religion , so it certainly shouldn’t bend for your’s! STOP! telling us how we should change our cultural or religious ways of life.
Save Europe says
Let’s look at some of your wording – ‘you people’……’Islam must be respected and accommodated’ (a bit like non Muslim religions are tolerated and respected – especially in Egypt, Pakistan and Bangladesh?!?!?!) Less drugs?!?!?! Strange considering that law enforcement in the West arrest a high percentage of Muslim males SELLING drugs……oh but wait, I’m guessing they’re oppressed so they have to…….how dare you also say we should not imbibe alcohol. You truly come from a joyless, sad, pathetic pseudo-religious, totalitarian political background. Please DO move to Saudi Arabia which will suit your mindset so much better……but wait! You’re a hypocrite – residing in the West, yet hating our culture.
jayell says
Hello Muslim. ‘Islam is the true way of life that must be accepted and accommodated’…..That sounds like a line from some caricature Nazi German character in a WW2 war film, not far removed from “Vee hef vays of making you accept islam”. And you refer to ‘my Western people’. ‘Western people’ are NOT ‘your people’ because Western people have never shared your antediluvuan mindset, apart from that grotesque deviation in Nazi Germany which is just about the only place and time in this part of the world where you might have reasonably claimed to have belonged. Apart from that you and your obscene arrogance are an unwelcome visitor, and if your social awareness is as defective as your post suggests, you clearly have quite a serious personal problem. And, contrary to your apparent private delusion, people with your problem are NOT welcome in the West. So get used to it, or take yourself and your problem to a place where it is socially acceptable.
Freddy says
Very good comment…
Leon Degney says
What CRAP!!!
Kay says
The basis of Christmas celebrations is the birth of Christ, which is “mentioned” in the Bible along with how the birth of the Messiah changed the world.
Christmas trees mean what they mean— a symbol of the unchanging power of the King of the World. They are also a cultural symbol of joy.
Your birthday comes whether or not you get a cake.
Christ is born whether or not there is a tree, whether or not you celebrate His birth. Ask to know Jesus, Muslim 2017; He was born for you. He loves you.
Abdellah Choukri Ex Muslim says
As an ex muslim living in Italy I assure you I wrote Bolzano Municipality to show my resentment against this decision.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Good work Abdellah. And i’m happy you are no longer in islam 🙂
gravenimage says
The repulsive “Muslim 2017” wrote:
Why are you people upset about this move? Christians especially the ones who are educated have come to understand that all this Christmas tree and celebrations have absolutely no biblical basis.
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What absolute claptrap.No Christian ever thought the Christmas tree had a Biblical basis.
It is a Western cultural tradition, enjoyed by both Christians and Secularists.
“Muslim 2017’s” ludicrous claim that Christians are banning Christmas trees at this city hall because it is not mentioned in the Bible is ridiculous. Moreover, Christians are not in the habit of crushing innocent traditions because they are not specifically Christian. “Muslim 2017” is pretending Christians are like supremacist Muslims.
More:
Islam the way of life that truly follow the way of the prophets must be respected and accommodated. Kudos to Italy for doing the right thing – Islam is here to stay and peace and goodwill will exist.
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And here he admits that this has nothing to do with Christmas trees not being mentioned in the Bible, but is bowing to supremacist Muslims. Note his claim that Muslims are only “respected and accommodated” if they are allowed to crush their host nation’s culture and traditions.
And this last is actually a threat–that if Infidels *don’t* bow to Muslims, that they will be violent.
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Islam will create betterment for these societies. Less drugs, stronger families, no alcohol, less murders etc.
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Muslims consider a society “bettered” if they mass rape and slaughter Infidels. Every European country that has been invaded by Muslims is *much* more violent–but Muslims do not care, because the victims are “filthy Kufar”.
More:
As a Muslim who lives in the west, I believe in kindness towards my western people no matter there religion even if we disagree. Killing and bombing civilians is not permitted in Islamic law even in war. No taqiyya there as this is clear from our texts and classical writings.
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What a load of crap. If “Muslim 2017” *really* believed this, he would be trying to convince his Jihadist coreligionists, rather than lying to the good Infidels here at Jihad Watch.
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Thank you Italy, Allahu Akbar.
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And he ends with a cry of Muslim supremacy, which commonly precedes Jihad terror attacks. He is just taunting us.
M says
Bull. Shit.
Nowhere majority Islam is anything but a hell hole.
Ren says
Europe is becoming the land of the dhimmis.
RCCA says
It’s BS. It’s not that they are worried about offending the sensibilities of non-Christians, it’s that they are worried about what Muslims do when they are offended. No one has ever worried about offending the sensibilities of Jews during Christmas.
Jack Holan says
The beginnings of Sharia Compliant American for Non-Muslims. The first to be attacked are the weakest and easiest to overcome, local community Agency with either self funded or lowest liability protections thus the ideal targets for being bullied into submission.
C.225 says
On the bright side, this is pretty mild compared to a few years from now, when Christmas trees will be used to construct funeral pyres and gallows for kāfirs right in the town squares of major European cities.
cyrus basile says
The Italian evil is the left, they are the ones who want this,and most of the times are not Muslims who request it, I’m Italian, I live in Italy and I know the situation, people and stove of the left and of the Catholic Church, now nobody goes more in the Church for this, they do good to those who wants them evil. but not to the poor Italians, while the government pays the hotels around 40 dollars a day to keep them, and some of them are also complain of food or other, while there are Italians who have lost their jobs, who sleep in the car with the children, it is shameful to this, then there are the red cooperatives that have all the facilities to keep them And make the account of tens of thousands of these how much are the Italians at 40 dollars to the day and this for months and years. most of them are not war refugees but economic migrants, then they would not entitled to maintenance, but should be expelled. This pero’ happens only at the center and north of Italy… to the south instead, Muslims are good and not delinquono or stuprano, people cut their heads only if they raise their voice, and not surrender to sacred and strong Christian traditions for nothing in the world, the same left do not permit, already know that happens a revolt. However after 4 left governments not elected (with the help of Mr Blair,,Sarkozy, Obama, Merkel,that did drop the last government elected by the people of the center right of Berlusconi by the spread economic) the forthcoming elections to the left of the lewd,of political collusion.mafia,procurement rigged,rich,of the magistrates who condemn only Italians,and media that occupy a shameful 50th place on World libertò printing. The left will be expelled, and then it will resume to put the blocks in the right place, stopping the invasion by sea, banishing those that do not have reason to be maintained and more consideration for the masters of Italian house. ps, I would remind you that in Italy the unemployed do not perceive money every month, but health is excellent and free, and immigrants thank abusing it. After that do not pay the tickets for trains, bus, Or for electricity,taxs,water,gas etc etc. for this I hope in a government such as that of Austria, Czech or other right for a new Europe without muslims and migrants, after a war of liberation not very far in time
Save Europe says
All Leftists in any and all Western countries are evil Basil. Whether it’s the USA, Britain, Germany, Italy etc – they’re the problem.
utis says
Why the hell should they be offended by Christmas trees? The Crusaders didn’t carry Christmas trees into battle. People who are that sensitive are usually locked up in funny farms. I do understand the town bureaucrats. Always worrying about keeping their jobs; always scurrying to suck up to those they fear.
That town needs a good backlash before the crosses start coming down off the churches.
LeftisruiningCanada says
They aren’t offended by the trees in themselves. They are offended that non-muslims are openly celebrating something non-islamic.
They aren’t the center of attention, in other words, which is very offensive indeed.
James Pierce says
Don’t like the tree? Have your meeting somewhere else. Problem solved.
LeftisruiningCanada says
But that’s no use, since they only want to be where you are.
Charles says
Can anyone offer even one example of muslims being careful NOT TO OFFEND any non-muslim community, group, organization OR person????
Thus I have ZERO interest in not offending them! ?
I wonder about leftists says
Mr. Robert Spencer and all the commenters on Jihad watch.
I have thought this for a long time and once commented on it. But now through the vines I think as I asked a few times to the left to give answers why they behave like this, and they are not sleeping, I think they know d..n wel what they are doing.
It’s probably and I almost think for sure the New World Order, and they have planned this already for some 20 years, the illuminati and cabal have planned this and planned to use the muslims (may be even paid them), to run over our western countries by the millions and parasitising us until we are dried out.
They will not thirty their own hands + they can always say that the left did this all. The agenda 21 wanted depopulation, 1 government and 1 religion, who can and will decide everything for us, feta camps, we will become slaves. The Bilderberg group, the EU and the UN seem to be in it too and almost every country. So they are waiting until the clash comes so they can eliminate a lot of people by the fighting, but that is why I think they pamper the muslims, they need them and that’s why the left never really debate or give any answers.
It’s a kind of gut feeling and the feeling that the muslims will try to push us till the end to provoke some
clashes. That’s why they feel so arrogant, I think.There is brilliant lecture by Dr. Stanley Monteith called: THE FORBIDDEN SECRET, 2007, published December 8, 2013. You can get it on Google, I don’t know for how long, Robert and all the others, what do you think of this lecture, it is a video of 2 hrs long, but to me it clarified quite some things too, from what I thought already.
This has been planned already for so long, and now they are just waiting, and waiting, because they have put the muslims up against us and promised them a beautiful life for which they have nothing to do but aggravate us, but I think it is very well possible, but it would be nice to know your enemy and what they are planning, governments are in this the elite, the bankers, the big companies, so they will try to rule us the way they want to, and 1 religion, which one do you think was their choice?
I know it sounds like something out of a horror book, but I suspect it is something like that, because otherwise it is too weird how people have behaved from the left. And it sounds so far fetched, but I think it isn’t. 2018 will be a hell of a year, but whoever wants to listen and look at that video, I would like your comments on it and editor, if you don’t want this published, pls send it to Mr. Spencer, thanks.
Excuse my bad English and I hope you understand what I mean. God bless.We will need it.
St. Manuel II Palaiologos says
Christ is born, glorify him.
That sentence is the most terrifying thing to jihadists, atheists and all those who fear judgment and responsibility from a Higher Power than themselves. They want to live life their way, according to their mythical freedoms and liberties, and to assert the existence of a timeless Creator who deserves their obedience is too terrifying for them.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Christ is born, glorify him.”
It is the only proper thing to do.
Lydia says
You know what I think sometimes?
It is other globalist plots behind the scenes, who are the real haters of Christ/Christianity/Christian things, that are using the muslim thing as an excuse. Not that the muslim thing is not part of it all, and not that Christmas trees *really* have anything to do with Jesus, but it has become a tradition enough that it is called a “Christmas” tree, and that alone is enough for them.
As the story “The Grinch that stole Christmas”:
YOU’RE A MEAN ONE, MR. GRINCH!
BUT YOU CAN’T STEAL CHRISTMAS… BECAUSE IT’S A DONE DEAL, AND WE WILL CELEBRATE IT… ANYWAY!!!
: D
LeftisruiningCanada says
You might have something there.
There is no doubt left in my (little) mind that very dark things are working in high places.
Christ Jesus is the thing it hates most of all.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Europe’s new masters indeed:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/12/17/sweden-raise-retirement-age-pay-mass-migration-population-growth/
Abdellah Choukri Ex Muslim says
as an ex muslim living in Italy I am very surprised . My host country is becoming more and more the best friend of islamists
Ade Fegan says
a better idea is to put up extra trees specifically to offend them !
Ade Fegan says
they don.t mind offending me by insisting on following muhammad ..
so why should I care about them ?
ronyvo says
Hey Italians, do you want us to send to you our dear pres. Trump to perform brain surgeries?!!!!
Abill says
Interesting! Here in Dakar, Senegal (which is 95% Muslim), there are Christmas trees all over the place – many in Muslim-owned shops! No one seems to take offense – it’s good for business!
gravenimage says
The idea that Senegal is free of Jihad is, of course, quite false:
“Senegal: Four imams arrested for jihad terror activities”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/senegal-four-imams-arrested-for-jihad-terror-activities
Christian missionaries are imprisoned there. There are worse places than Senegal when it comes to persecution of Infidels, but that is damning with faint praise.
Learning islam says
Mohammed prophesied:
“this religion will split into seventy three; seventy two are in Hell and one is in Heaven…”
https://mohamedghilan.com/2011/11/10/my-ummah-will-split-into-73-sects-thats-it/
the first biography of Muhammad, by the devout muslim Ibn Ishaq:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Ishaq
If you read the biography, you will understand why so-called “extremists” do what they do (they are copying Muhammad), and why so many muslims are leaving Islam now they are finding out the truth.
Muhammad orders his son-in-law Ali, to behead Al-Nadr bin al-Harith on page 136.
Muhammad says that those who follow him will be given paradise; those who refuse will be slaughtered and sent to hell on page 222
Muhammad affirms that those who do not follow him will be slaughtered
On page 222 (326 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad:
Abu jahl said to them: “Muhammad alleges that if you follow him you will be kings of the Arabs and the Persians. Then after death you will be raised to gardens like those of the Jordan. But if you do not follow him you will be slaughtered, and when you are raised from the dead you will be burned in the fire of hell.” The apostle [Muhammad] came out to them with a handful of dust saying: “I do say that.”
Muhammad approves the stabbing of Uqba bin Abu Muayt on page 308.
Muhammad arranges the beheading of Kab bin al-Ashraf on page 364-9.
Muhammad personally beheads over 600 Jewish prisoners of war on page 464
Muhammad orders the torturing of treasurer of Khaybar tribe, Kinana on page 515
Islamic source texts say that Muhammad ordered the torture of a man in order to get hold of a treasure. We learn of that in the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, pages 511-517 (758-766 in the Arabic). https://archive.org/stream/TheLifeOfMohammedGuillaume/The_Life_Of_Mohammed_Guillaume#page/n279/mode/1up
The same pages in that earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad also tell us that after the torture, Muhammad had the man beheaded, and that later that night, or the next, Muhammad took into his private tent for consummation of “marriage” the tortured man’s widow, whose father and other male relatives Muhammad had just killed.
Muhammad orders the killing of Abdullah bin Katal’s and one of his singing-girls on page 550-1
Muhammad approves the murder of Asma bint Marwan on page 675-6.
Muhammad arranges the assassination of the old man Abu Afak on page 675.
Muhammad approves the murder of an old one-eyed Bedouin man, by Amr bin Umayya, one of his Jihadist thugs on page 674-5.
Learning islam says
ALLAH SACTIONED ISLAMIC PERSECUTION, OPEN HATRED & KILLINGS OF INFIDLES AND RAPES
NOTE: TO SOFTEN THE MEANING OF THE ARABIC WORD (SUGAR COAT), ISLAMIC APPOGISTS MISS OUT OR ADD OR MISINTERPRET THE MEANING OF THE ARABIC WORD.
THERE ARE 26 COPIES OF THE ARABIC VERSION OF THE KORAN/CORAN/CORAN. REPEATED VERSES ARE FROM DIFFERENT TRANSLATIONS
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“The original source documents of Islam are more violent than the sacred text of nine other world religions:
Danish researcher Tina Magaard, Ph.D. concluded that Islam is the most warlike religion. After three years analyzing the original texts of ten different religions, Tina Magaard concluded that the Islamic texts stand out by encouraging terror and violence to a larger degree than other religions do. She stated that ‘Islamic texts encourage terror and fighting to a far larger degree than the original texts of other religions. The texts in Islam distinguish themselves from the texts of other religions by encouraging violence and aggression against people with other religious beliefs to a larger degree.”
INEQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW
There are 4,200 different religions. If the UK police are protecting only ONE of the 4,200 religions, then it is INEQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW. They must censor comments regarding the other 4,199 religions, or they must admit that the freedom of speech includes the right to criticize ALL RELIGIONS equally.
Worst Nations on Earth for Gender Equality are All Islamic
https://michaelsherlockauthor.wordpress.com/2016/10/27/top-10-worst-nations-on-earth-for-gender-equality-are-all-islamic/
According to the World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap Index (2016), the 10 worst countries for gender equality are those in which Islam is the dominant religious demographic.
1.Yemen 2.Pakistan 3.Syria 4.Saudi Arabia 5.Chad 6.Iran 7.Mali 8.Morocco 9.Côte d’Ivoire [1]
10.Lebanon. You can take those and ad: somolia libya egypt iraq turkey chechnya afghan tunisia and any other isLIEmic fiefdoms of human rights abuse and baby raping, and you’ll have a list of the worst open sewers of shariaDiahrea misogyny & tyranny.
Just great places to live, especially if you’re a six year old defenceless little girl..!!!!
ISLAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GENDER EQUALITY! not criticize INEQUALITY WHEN MUSLIMS DO IT … to the SISTERS UPSTAIRS?
The concept of blood money in Saudi Arabia means that when a person has been killed or caused to die by another, the latter has to pay blood money or compensation, as follows:
100,000 riyals if the victim is a Muslim man
50,000 riyals if a Muslim woman
50,000 riyals if a Christian man
25,000 riyals if a Christian woman
6,666 riyals if a Hindu man
3,333 riyals if a Hindu woman
According to this hierarchy, a Muslim man’s life is worth 33 TIMES THAT OF A HINDU WOMAN. This hierarchy is based on the Islamic definition of human rights and is rooted in the Quran and Sharia (Islamic law). How can we talk of democracy when the concept of equality in Islam is nonexistent?
INEQUALITY is a basic concept of Islam. (Mortimer)
Gamaliel says
Where is the fear about hurting the sensibility of the Christians. Or is the real fear of being hurt by Muslims?
David Mortimer says
What a joke !
Learning islam says
Is knowing the truth about Islam also “islamophobia”?
What does Islam teach its followers? (muslims)
Islam teaches some really nasty, nasty stuff
Here’s a way for readers to see how “peaceful” Islam is from the comfort of their own home and learn it’s sinister truth
Quran.com
The way to use that website Quran.com is to search for the verse you want, here’s a couple examples of verses I recommend, just copy each set of verse numbers below into the “search” bar at Quran.com
8:39 “fight till all religion is for allah” IE. until all people are Muslim
9:5 “when sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists” Islam considers Christianity polytheists
9:29
4:89 “if they turn away (from Islam) kill them”
2:191 “and kill them wherever you overtake them, such is recompense of disbelievers (non-Muslims)”
8:67 “it is not for a prophet to have captives of war (slaves) until he inflicts a slaughter upon the land”
47:4 “when you meet disbeliever (non-Muslim) strike neck” see 8:39 above Islam is at war with all
5:51. “take no Jew or Christian as an ally”
9:30
3:151
8:12 “cast TERROR into hearts of disbelievers, so strike their necks & strike every fingertip”
8:60 “prepare whatever steeds of war you are able that you may TERRIFY enemies of allah” non-Muslims
9:111
13:41
7:175
5:33
4:25
24:2
37:88
38:31
47:35 “do not seek peace while you are superior”
Etc#
the Copts and other Christians in Dar-al-Islam are violently persecuted. This happens in *every* Muslim-majority country.
Christians are facing full genocide in places like Pakistan and Iraq.
In Egypt and other Islamic countries, it is way of life. Muslims are FULL of hate. The Copts are extremely peaceful people. Despite all the horrible atrocities committed by Muslims against them, they did not ever raise a hand against a Muslim. However, this did not help to soften the extreme hate in the Muslims’ hearts planted by Mohammad in the evil Koran. It is about time to declare Islam is NOT a religion, because it is not.
(Among all the claims Muslims make about their religion at least one of them is absolutely true; nothing has been changed since Muhammad’s first revelation. In an unbroken chain Muslims have been emulating their prophet, as instructed to do by Allah in the Quran. Muhammad had people killed over insults and was not troubled if innocent people, who had some association with the original “criminal”, were also killed.
To riot, burn and loot against perceived blasphemers and their friends and neighbors is 100% pure Islam. And it doesn’t even matter if the alleged blasphemy was a factually correct statement. Some countries will always be poor and their citizens uneducated. These are the countries where Shariah underpins every law. It is not possible for an intelligent, creative or ambitious person to be who they are in such a country. Where the voice of reason has been criminalized the gap is filled by angry, self-righteous mobs.
All of the destruction, death and looting are, in their minds, celebrated by Allah. So they get to hurt people and take their stuff without remorse which makes Islam the preferred religion for ignorant sociopaths. (DRHazard)
Learning islam says
a lot of love in Christianity, a lot of anger and hate in Islam. Christian pray for others, muslims pray for themselves. “religion of war” full of “venomous misogyny
• Coran has 114 chapters 6666 word. Jesus mentioned 25 times and mohammed 4 times
• Hate appears towards unbeliever 296 times,
• (kill unbeliever 180 times,
• muslims are the best people.
• slaughtering people – and their neighbors and entire community – over just a rumor is mainstream Islam.
• 51% (548,190 words) of the Trilogy text (koran, hadith,sira), most of it slanders against non-Muslims
• 20% of quran is loving and peaceful towards allah and muslim brother. Not a single verse peaceful and be nice towards muslim sister
• 154 – 164 verses of curses , jihad and war and killings -31% of the Islamic Trilogy (327,547 words) concerned with jihad-warfare
that’s 80% plus of that obnoxious rag being useless
Muslims are the “best of peoples” (3:110)
Hardly a day goes by without an Islamic terror attack somewhere in the world.
Without the threat of ‘violence ‘Islam has nothing to back it up.The alternative to violence surely is ‘love’which Christianity has in abundance.Therefore Islam will become redundant and shrivel away..Just when is the penny going to drop for Muslims.?
Blatant lies: Islam has NOTHING to do with terror
What terror? Oh…THAT terror!
a small but representative sample of the Qur’an’s violence and hate
The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 002:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 003:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095,100-104; 005:033, 035, 082; 008:001, 005, 007, 009-010, 012, 015-017, 039-048,057-060, 065-075; 009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029,036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083,086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123; 016:110; 022:039, 058, 078; 024:053, 055; 025:052; 029:006, 069; 033:015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050; 042:039; 047:004, 020, 035; 048:015-024; 049:015; 059:002, 005-008, 014; 060:009; 061:004, 011, 013; 063:004; 064:014; 066:009; 073:020; 076:008.
the Hadith Book 12 has 1700 verses about Jihad alone.
Many imams say, it’s un-Islamic to “love” the DIRTY KUFAAR??? Muslims who do not show hostility towards the kufaar will not be admitted to Islamic paradise.
First, Reformers refused to recognize that the Qur’an by itself was so full of anti-Infidel sentiment that ignoring the Hadith would not rid Islam of its violence and inculcated hate. Second, Reformers never did explain how it was that 1.5 billion Muslims could be convinced to ignore the hadith.
Why do we deceive ourselves?
IT’S THE IDEOLOGY, STUPID!
198 islamic jihad attacks; 1777 killed; 1863 wounded; 34 bombings; attacks occurred in 32 countries.
There are 3 killed by jihad attacks every day of the year. ARE ALL OF THE MUSLIM TERRORISTS WHO ARE READY TO GIVE UP THEIR LIVES TRULY ‘INSANE’, or is Islam’s ideology to blame?
To those patrons of the London Underground who went to stare at a BURNING BOMB, I must say, “NEXT TIME, GET THE HELL AWAY FROM THE BOMB, UNLESS YOU ARE A BOMB DISPOSAL EXPERT.” (Mortimer)
‘STAGED’ Islamic terror in the last 30 days: (In May/June 2017)
‘STAGED’ SINCE 9/11- 30,973 DEADLY ‘STAGED’ JIHAD ATTACKS
Over thirty one thousand terror attacks and still nothing is being done, least of all, is the truth even being spoken. All so that 1.4 billion people around the planet can believe in a God who gives them sex robots and sex slaves if they just murder a few people on their way to
Paradise.
terrorist attacks by Muslims around the world since 9/11? Muslim terrorist attacks in New York, Washington, Boston, Los Angeles, Chicago, Minneapolis, San Bernardino, Fort Hood, Orlando, Chattanooga? Or other attacks in London, Manchester, Paris, Nice, Toulouse, Madrid, Brussels, Amsterdam, Berlin, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Malmo, Helsinki, Moscow, St. Petersburg, Beslan? Or in Mumbai, Delhi, Beijing?
Home Office UK data released last month( Sept 2017) showed the number of people detained
over suspected terrorism increased to 379 – the highest since records began. UK had some
very tragic and horrific terror attacks in the last year 2016
The bulk of crimes in Britain are frauds, thefts and public order offences which have no link to extremism.”
Thank God for that “failure” and UK vice versa! And you forgot rape, especially the more than a thousand girls raped by muslim barbarians. And don’t leave out the crimes you cited which are mainly perpetrated by muslims who are commanded to do so. That’s why you’ll never have enough law enforcement to cover all the fraud, vandalism, or rape since you let in the invading barbarians.
You brattish turn everything around, you have so many crimes , because you let them do that. You did not protect your own citizens, and you still are not doing any thing. You ket them crowd the streets in London, you let the children be forced to pray in school ., you let them beat up Jewish kids or infidel kids, you let them commit beheading, raping, beating, mutilating young girls, polygamy, forced how to dress, when to eat and how to eatYou only had to tell them to keep at the law of the land, like we had to do.
Thanks very much.
Muslims consider the appropriation of the wealth of the non-Muslim as entirely acceptable as
the Allah-created universe sees the Muslim supported by the non-Muslim through their
so-called jizya. So, yes, these theft crimes are very much part of the jihad, as are public order offenses whose aim is to keep the non-Muslim in a state of fear.
the Muslims have no qualms about stealing non-Muslim wealth and whatever. They are taught it is allah’s blessing. They are no better in dealing with their own widows or other
underprivileged. Politicians bragging about their own crimes? Never heard that one before…
Learning islam says
kafir -> extrame degrading word for UNbeliever
The Quran contains many verses .Several command Muslims to strike fear into the hearts of the unbelievers and to kill the apostates.
And call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Moslems were NEVER told to love Jews or Christians but rather to murder and kill
them all for Allah. – no, not even one verse from the Qu ran to show or proof that Mohamed told Moslems to love Christians and Jews… but here we have Mohamed telling Moslems how to treat Christians and Jews…
Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed.
Muhammad’s own martial legacy – and that of his companions – along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.
4. ALL politicians who craft “hate-speech laws” and ALL cops who arrest people for “hate-speech crimes” and ALL lawyers and judges who prosecute people for them, should themselves be fired and JAILED for putting “hurt feelings” before FACTS Especially in the case of islam!
Everyone who defends islam and muslims endorses crime.
Endorsing crime IS a crime, so those doing it are criminals.
Right in the Qur’an is: the command to murder Jews and Christians (Surah 9:29), to terrorize all non-Muslims (8:12), to rape young girls (65:4), to enslave people for sex (4:3), to lie about one’s true goals (3:54), and the command to make war on all the infidels (9:123) and subjugate the entire world to Allah (9:33).
Are death-threats legal? NO.
Is extortion legal? NO.
Is slavery legal? NO.
Is murder legal? NO.
Is rape legal? NO.
THEN ISLAM IS ILLEGAL!
Rape, slavery, robbery, extortion and murder are never OK!
Everything muslims pretend to see as “holy” is already a crime!
So nobody has a legal right to practice islam anywhere on earth!
The murderers, apart from the muslims themselves are:
The Politicians
The Media
The Judiciary
(mortimer says Dec 5, 2017 at 12:47 am
CC, 9.5 is the verse of the sword, but 9.29 is the verse of EXTORTION. I believe that the two verses are the MOST IMPORTANT VERSES in the Koran that explain everything we need to know about this EXTORTION CULT.)
Bev says
Islam is nothing more than a totalitarian theocracy dedicated to running your life 24/7/365 through religion and law. They’re also a death cult where the only way to get to heaven is to kill the infidel. The best time to be an Islamist was during the time of Mohammed. Nothing of value has come from the Islamic regions of the world since Mohammed. They’re encouraged to marry their first cousins – can you imagine what this does to the gene pool. All the Islamic migrants/refugees in Europe are breaking the socialized medicine model with all of their birth defects both physical and mental because of this cultural practice.
We don’t need this backward barbarian type of govt in the US.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
I read through your entire three-part comment. You put in a lot of work, ‘Learning islam.’ To the best of my knowledge, every point you outlined is absolutely correct. Kudos to you!
gravenimage says
+1
Bev says
Note to the Italian morons who run this city – there is absolutely nothing religious about a Christmas Tree. The Christmas Tree was actually brought in from the Pagan celebrations. You might want to rethink caving to political correctness.
gravenimage says
Anything that is not Islamic “offends” Muslims.
E. Dillon says
More Muslim BULLSHIT !!!!
Cretius says
Muslims ld live in the customs of the majority Jewishi and Christian citizens.
mach37 says
It makes no sense for Christians to deny their own sensibilities in favor of the Muslim sensibilities. How long is it going to take European leaders to understand that they are giving up their countries to Islam by these extreme acts of submission?
John says
This is an old piece so percentages are higher today:
When the Muslim population remains under 2% In a country, they will be seen primarily as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the current situation in:
United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
As the Muslim population reaches 2% to 5%, they begin to recruit from ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, within prisons and street gangs. This is happening in:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
“From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population,” Dr. Hammond notes. “For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food” and increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature such food on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is happening in:
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
Soon they begin to apply pressure to allow Sharia law within their own communities (sometimes ghettos).
“When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions,” Dr. Hammond notes. “In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.” These tensions are seen on a regular basis in:
violence increases when the Muslim population reaches 20%. “After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues,” such as in:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
“At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare,” such as in:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60%, persecution of non-believing “infidels” rises significantly, including sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia law as a weapon, and Jizya, a tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out “infidels,” and move toward a 100% Muslim society, which has been experienced to some degree in:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
A 100% Muslim society will theoretically usher in their version of peace — the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. “Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrassas are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word,” such as in:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%
gravenimage says
Yes–worth posting again. And–as noted–these figures are even worse today.
BRIAN MORGAN says
ISLAM IS THE ANTI-CHRIST.
Mario says
In the US I still see a sizable salute to Christmas in public places after a period of PC anti-Christmas hysteria a few years ago. Christmas is too much fun to ignore. Muslims probably enjoy it too. Who could dislike sparkle during long winter nights and Santa Claus bearing gifts? Most of our traditions are rooted in pagan rituals anyway. I think the politicians and activist groups behind the anti-Christmas PC BS are not so much Muslim as radical left wing anti-American white westerners. They use Muslims as an excuse. The war against the West isn’t being waged by Islam as much as the Left Wing.
FYI says
Maybe Christmas trees will need police protection.
In case muslim males try to sexually molest them..
M says
So they should cover it with a black bag…and they can start a grooming gang on uncovered birch trees.
Wtf kind of a world are we in that we have to deal with crazed barbarians who want to take away festive, pretty holiday decorations? They hate us and they hate western culture. ?
Brandon Johnson says
Why in the world would “Muslim sensibilities” be offended if they are tolerant of other religions? I mean, Muslims do acknowledge Jesus as a prophet, so why would they have a problem with celebrating his birth? Of course, I would understand a little better if they weren’t the “religion of peace”. However, you don’t see Christians offended by Menorahs or vice versa, nor the made up “holiday” of Kwanzaa. So why, oh why, would we need to cater to the one religion that is offended by every other religion? It’s like giving in to a bully… wait, that’s not what it’s like… that’s exactly what it is.
A. Dillow says
But what about right here in the old USofA? We allow Islamists to throw down there rugs and bow their heads to the east, on college campuses, in grocery stores, on the corner by the liquor store, in Christian churches, on the sidewalk in front of other peoples homes, ANYWHERE they want to. Alternately if you are a Christian and you pray out loud you are ridiculed, sometimes fined, ran off campuses, ran out of stores, attacked by the drunks at the liquor store on the corner, told you are being offensive if you pray in your own front yard, basically you are not allowed to worship the way your religion suggests except in a church.
We are told that this is just because Christians are so privileged in the USA, that we have so many protections, that its because Christians think they are better than everyone else but it’s not Christians that have verses in our bible that say “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing… but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)” that would be the Quran (2:191-193)
john newman says
I have lived, worked and socialized with Muslims (along with people of every other faith and creed) for the last thirty years; not once – NOT ONCE – has any single one of them told me they have the slightest problem with Christmas or the Christian faith or any of its traditions and symbols. the problem here isn’t that Muslims are stripping away our traditions, heritage and faith, it’s that we’re doing it ourselves. How are WE doing this? By not standing up to the bleeding heart social justice warriors and the week-kneed, emasculated leaders who bow to their wishes.
When are we going to wake up and listen to common sense? Why the hell would anyone be offended by a Christmas tree? Would you be offended if the room you held a meeting in had Ramadan decorations? I know I wouldn’t. The next time these cretins want to be offended on someone else’s behalf we should direct them to the Muslim countries and ask them just how quickly they are dismantling their Mosques to avoid offending Christians.
This is just one more example of a non-issue being championed by halfwits that is not nipped in the bud and, thus, reaches its inevitably absurd conclusion.
gravenimage says
john newman wrote:
I have lived, worked and socialized with Muslims (along with people of every other faith and creed) for the last thirty years; not once – NOT ONCE – has any single one of them told me they have the slightest problem with Christmas or the Christian faith or any of its traditions and symbols
……………………
John, have you somehow missed the unending Muslim Jihad attacks on Christmas and Christians–pious Muslims blowing up churches, desecrating churches, destroying nativity scenes, mowing people down at Christmas markets, and plotting to blow up tree lighting ceremonies?
Have you, further, missed the out and out genocide against Christians in much of the Muslim world?
You are right that cases like the one above are self-inflicted dhimmitude–but your idea that there is no animus on the part of Muslims against Christmas and Christians is *quite* mistaken.