“If you are anti-Israel, you are anti-God….You cannot separate God from what he loves the most…the Jewish nation that he chose,” stated the Danish Christian Zionist Jane Kiel (“Jerusalem Jane”) to me last October 11 in Jerusalem. Her personal “love story” with Israel, and the insight this ongoing experience in Jerusalem offers, is even more valuable this Christmas season following President Donald Trump’s controversial decision to recognize Israel’s historic capital.
Kiel, who later attended with me the Israeli government’s Christian Media Summit, related her biography to me in the Coffee Bean café on Jaffa Road, where the Jerusalem light rail runs through the city’s downtown. As has previously been reported, she was one of five children in a devoutly Christian small-town Danish family whose mother led a monthly prayer group in her home. With her grandparents and mother praying for Israel every day, “Israel was always at the center of attention at our home,” Kiel has stated in the past. As she has discussed before, she noted to me that Christians “would not have a faith if it wasn’t for this nation” of Jews, from whom came a Jewish messiah, Jesus.
Already in Denmark, Kiel engaged in Israel advocacy, as she often notes with her account of protesting Yasser Arafat’s 2001 visit to the Danish parliament in Copenhagen. As she explained to me, she and her mother displayed large Israeli flags in response to Arafat, a “terrorist with so much Jewish blood on his hands.” That day’s downpour upon his visit signaled to her that “when it comes to Israel, it’s a spiritual battle; it’s a battle between God and Satan.”
Although Kiel had often visited Israel, she felt God calling her to settle permanently there. In 2010, she “stepped out completely in faith,” sold her possessions in Denmark, and moved to Israel initially on a tourist visa as a woman with few resources and no job. Yet later in Israel, she says she heard God ask her, “Would you be a voice for Israel in the media?”
Supported by donations from abroad, Kiel ultimately established a successful online pro-Israel presence, including the Facebook page Israel, One Nation, with over 143,000 followers. Outside of Israel, people communicated to her that “we love what you are doing because you are our eyes and ears in Israel,” while hundreds of emails from Jews noted that “we didn’t think we had friends like you.” She now has an Israeli press pass and journalist visa.
Kiel considers herself “blessed to be in Israel,” and as in past comments, noted to me that she now feels more at home in Israel than Denmark. The Bible “comes to life in a way that can only happen in Israel,” she has noted, while her “Boots on the Ground in Israel” Jerusalem Post columns praise the Jewish people. “I have never met anyone celebrating life the way the Jewish people do…that overcome adversity like the Jewish people do…that is more kind to others, whether they are strangers or even their enemies!” she has written.
Kiel has focused much of her reporting on Jerusalem’s Temple Mount, Judaism’s holiest site, now occupied by the Muslim Al Aqsa mosque and Dome of the Rock shrine. She repeatedly notes that Israeli agreements with the Muslim authorities administering the Mount prohibit prayers by Jews and other non-Muslims, while they often face harassment from Muslims when visiting. Her reporting activities on the Mount and occasional prayers have made her known to the Muslim authorities, who have expelled from the Mount four times.
Kiel’s increasing prominence has also brought her threats, such as photos taken of her on the Temple Mount and in Jerusalem’s Old City, emailed to her with the words “leave our Aqsa in peace.” She showed herself defiant to me, stating that “I didn’t come here to be a coward. I didn’t come here to be quiet. They can threaten me all they want.” Confident in divine providence, she believes that “I am having angels working overtime protecting me…some big bodyguards working with me that you can’t see.”
Discussing these dangers in Jerusalem’s pleasant Jaffa Road neighborhood, Kiel notes the “spectacular paradox of living in Israel,” where inhabitants of a developed country can never forget violent Middle East realities. Among her many online video reports, she has recalled a 2016 incident when an unclaimed backpack on the light rail train she was riding provided a brief bomb scare. Another video shows police response to the aftermath of a stabbing attack in the Jaffa Road, not far from the Coffee Bean café.
Yet Israel is not so dangerous in comparison to the world’s other free societies that increasingly face similar threats from Islam, according to Kiel. To me she echoed her past comments and noted that her native “Europe does not know what hit them” in the form of mass Muslim migration over recent decades, and in particular in the last few years of the “refugee” crisis. She recounted that
ten years ago I was saying, you know what, this is crazy, you know, with the borders and everything and I had people telling me, you are a racist. And I said, “I am racist? I am a realist.” And the same people are saying now, oh my God, you are right.
One of Kiel’s videos notes how her Star of David necklace received ugly looks from ethnically Arab men during one of her Sweden visits. Another video observes how for similar reasons she avoided wearing a Star of David necklace while living for five weeks with a Christian Arab in Beit Jala, a town near Jerusalem under Palestinian Authority control. She simply acted as a “dumb tourist” during this time, while experiencing sexual harassment on daily commuter buses traveling to Jerusalem across Israel’s security barrier.
Kiel explained to me that “I am more safe living in Israel than I am had I been living in Spain, France, England, or Germany. They are raping all the women.” A Jerusalem taxi driver told her that in Europe “now they are beginning to see for themselves, because they are being attacked by all the Muslims, so now they will begin to see what life has been for us the last 50-60 years.” Comparing the United States’ relatively high rate of violent crime to Israel’s less frequent incidents of terrorism, many Americans, meanwhile, have told her that “I feel more safe here than in walking in Detroit or Chicago or New York.”
Given her threat analysis, Kiel’s videos castigate individuals such as former President Barack Obama for their naïve pandering to Islam, with its “insane lie” that Islam’s prophet Muhammad flew to heaven from the Temple Mount. “Islam is the religion of peace? I want to throw up. Islam is the religion of hate, of theft, of massacre,” while Muslims “pray to a fake god they call Allah.” Today “Muslims are running this world with fear. If there is something they don’t agree, they just make a mayhem. They just mutilate, they just kill; they just make riots.” “Muhammad conquered with the sword. That is what they are still doing,” she told me.
Under these circumstances, Kiel finds ludicrous proposals for a two-state solution to Israel’s conflict with its Palestinian neighbors. As she wrote at the Jerusalem Post, a Hamas-dominated “Gaza became a launching pad for thousands of rockets! Now, Muslims and Arabs are demanding the same for the Temple Mount” and the entire West Bank. Then, she told me, even vital Israeli infrastructure such as Ben-Gurion Airport would be under direct fire.
“Everybody knows it is not going to work,” Kiel told me. Palestinians overwhelmingly refuse to conceive of a Jewish state of Israel within any borders, rather “it’s just from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free.” “You tell me how there will ever be peace when you brainwash your children,” she asked in light of incessant Palestinian media that demonizes Jews and incites murder. “Israel is supposed to make peace with them. Are you kidding me? It cannot be done.”
Notwithstanding such unreality, Kiel has worried that the “Arabs are winning the media battle,” precisely in part because Western governments fund pro-Palestinian organizations. She has written at the Jerusalem Post that the “entire deception that a fraudulent Arab people calling themselves Palestinians ever had a state is perhaps the biggest scam ever perpetrated upon the world.”
My mention of the “apartheid” slander against Israel made Kiel “talk about all-Arab cities where Jews cannot go” in the Palestinian territories because, as Israeli signs warn, Israelis there face murder. “If, God forbid, there would ever be a Palestinian state, it’s going to be ‘Judenrein,’” she said to me. Meanwhile, Israeli Arab Knesset members such as Haneen Zoabi enjoy all the benefits of Israeli democracy while calling for the Jewish state’s destruction. “Every time I have met her in the Knesset, I feel my knuckles are tingling, but my mom raised me to be polite,” Kiel said to me.
In the face of such attacks, Kiel emphasized to me the need for Christians to support Israel. They often “are living in their little happy-clappy, Christian bubble, going to church every Sunday, glory hallelujah and everything is fine and why should we care about Israel.” “Don’t just come here and run around to all the Christian sites,” she says of Christians visiting the Holy Land; rather, meet Israeli soldiers and police; “it is important to connect with the Jewish people…say we love you.”
Notwithstanding any current dangers to Israel, Kiel remains confident in her faith in the God of the Bible. She has written that “when you take on Israel, you are taking on the God of Israel. Every nation and civilization that did so, perished!” “We are living in Biblical end times,” she also has claimed, and that for the Jews “there will be a third Temple” on the Temple Mount.
Kiel’s alternative, start-up journalism provides an antidote to anti-Israel media bias with reports from Jerusalem’s daily life. This will please many Christian Zionists and Jews, although the views of the former are more diverse and nuanced than a caricature of Kiel might suggest. Yet even others will have difficulty refuting her reality-based observations. As she noted to me while surveying Jewish survival against all odds throughout history, “Israel is living proof that God exists. If you don’t believe in God, look to Israel.”
Juliao Guerra says
Jane faithfully represents many Christians around the world who deeply love and respect Israel. To hate Israel is to hate God Himself and the people of God. Jerusalem is the eternal undivided capital not only of Israel, but of all the Christians of the world.
Bro. Nick Nicholas says
Juliao Guerra – I agree with your comment with ONE exception
– It is my personal observation over a period of 10+ years that here in ‘Amerika’ it is primarily the very few who truly are ‘Biblical CHRISTians’ who do truly love and support “ISRAEL” – the “JEWISH” people – and their God Given Eternal Homeland !
– For there are exponentially increasing numbers of people who say\think that they are ‘Christians’ who despise – and hate – and reject the eternal “certainty of the words of truth” ~ as they are written in Genesis 12:1-3 [AV] :
“Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country,
AND from thy kindred,
AND from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
AND I will make of thee a great nation,
AND I will bless thee,
AND make thy name great;
AND thou shalt be a blessing:
AND I will bless them that bless thee,
AND curse him that curseth thee:
AND in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.”
It is my Biblical understanding that this is the ‘In-Process’ fulfillment of that which is written in Galatians 5:19-21 — and 2 Peter 2:1 [AV]
– For “it is written” in 1 Corinthians 11:19 [AV] :
“For there must be also heresies among you,
that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.”
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gravenimage says
Why are you sneering at America as “‘Amerika’”? That is usually done by those who falsely claim that democratic America is “fascist”.
As for support for Israel, it is very high here, and not just among Evangelicals. Even college students support Israel by a 2-to-1 margin, which probably comes as a surprise to some.
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Americas-strong-support-for-Israel-remains-steady-poll-finds-446519
Kearn Schemm says
I am pro-Israel, but to say that to “hate Israel is to hate God himself” is nothing short of insane, sorry, can’t buy into this type of voodoo, it is a step too far for me. To hate Israel is to hate Israel, nothing more or less. My understanding of the Christian God is that He loves all nations, all peoples equally. Ms.Kiel’s comment sure doesn’t indicate that.
Paul N Silas says
My Bible tells me that The Father loves all of His “Chosen People”. Sometimes called The Elect. After all, His Son is Jewish, isn’t He?
samdav7 says
Paul N Silas:
God loves all his children equally.
The chosen thing got nothing to do with God’s love.
The term chosen people means God will pick few prophets from these people, that’s about it, it doesn’t mean they’re better than anybody else.
All people are equal in the eyes of God that we all know, unless you’re referring to another God who belongs to one community only !
LeftisruiningCanada says
“it doesn’t mean they’re better than anybody else”
They are ‘better’ only owing to the fact that God placed His favor upon them, and has chosen to use them an example of His Love and Severity.
The OT is quite clear that the Jews were not chosen because of anything special about them…the opposite in fact, since God wished to use a small people to display His own greatness.
“7”The LORD did not set His love on you nor choose you because you were more in number than any of the peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples, 8but because the LORD loved you and kept the oath which He swore to your forefathers”
Deuteronomy 7:7
4 “Do not say in your heart, after the LORD your God has thrust them out before you, ‘It is because of my righteousness that the LORD has brought me in to possess this land,’ whereas it is because of the wickedness of these nations that the LORD is driving them out before you. 5 Not because of your righteousness or the uprightness of your heart are you going in to possess their land, but because of the wickedness of these nations the LORD your God is driving them out from before you, and that he may confirm the word that the LORD swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob. (Dt 9.4-5)
“All people are equal in the eyes of God that we all know”
Yes, all are slaves to sin, dead in sin, and under His wrath. It is not the NT position that all are born as “Children of God”. That is a gift and a right given to those that are granted faith and repentance in Christ Jesus by the will of God:
“But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.” John 1:12-13
Bro. Nick Nicholas says
AMEN !
Juliao Guerra says
Heaven itself is called “Celestial Jerusalem” by Christians, such the sacred and special respect they have for the eternal capital of the homeland of God’s people. The hand of the Lord will rise and defeat all those who dare to attack Jerusalem!
Elisha says
God bless Jane Kiel! Too many so called Christians (ie, liberal ones) don’t get it and are too brainwashed by man instead of reading God’s word:
EVERY nation destroyed by the TRUE living God in Christ Jesus on Judgement Day is … an ISLAMIC STATE!
“The Lord will save the tents of Judah first, so that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem shall not become greater than that of Judah. In that day the Lord will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the Lord before them. It shall be in that day that I WILL SEEK TO DESTROY ALL THE NATIONS THAT COME AGAINST JERUSALEM.” – Zechariah 12:7-9
Then the word of the LORD of hosts came, saying, “Thus says the LORD of hosts, ‘I am EXCEEDINGLY JEALOUS FOR ZION, yes, WITH GREAT WRATH I AM JEALOUS FOR HER.’ “Thus says the LORD, ‘I WILL RETURN TO ZION and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem. Then Jerusalem will be called the City of Truth, and the mountain of the LORD of hosts will be called the Holy Mountain.’ – Zechariah 8:1-3
The LORD LOVES THE GATES OF ZION MORE THAN ALL THE OTHER DWELLING PLACES OF JACOB . – Psalm 87:2
But chose the tribe of Judah, Mount Zion WHICH HE LOVED. – Psalm 78:68
JUDAH BECAME HIS SANCTUARY, ISRAEL, HIS DOMINION. – Psalm 114:2
For the LORD has chosen Zion; He has desired it for His habitation. – Psalm 132:13
It is like the dew of Hermon Coming down upon the mountains of Zion; For there the LORD commanded the blessing– life forever. – Psalm 133:3
Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised in THE CITY OF OUR GOD, in the mountain of his holiness. Beautiful for elevation, the joy of the whole earth, IS MOUNT ZION, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King. – Psalm 48:1-2
The LORD is great in Zion, And He is exalted above all the peoples. – Psalm 99:2
His tabernacle is in Salem; His dwelling place also is in Zion. – Psalm 76:2
Cry aloud and shout for joy, O inhabitant of Zion, For great in your midst is the Holy One of ISRAEL. – Isaiah 12:6
Sing praises to the LORD, WHO DWELLS IN ZION; Declare among the peoples His deeds. – Psalm 9:11
Blessed be the LORD from Zion, WHO DWELLS IN JERUSALEM. Praise the LORD! – Psalm 135:21
Break forth, shout joyfully together, You waste places of Jerusalem; For the LORD has comforted His people, HE HAS REDEEMED JERUSALEM. – Isaiah 52:9
“I will feed your oppressors with their own flesh, And they will become drunk with their own blood as with sweet wine; And all flesh will know that I, the LORD, am your Savior And your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.” – Isaiah 49:26
Praise the mighty name of Jesus Christ!!!
samdav7 says
Elisha:
“Praise the mighty name of Jesus Christ !!!”
I can’t see any of your statements has anything to do with Jesus Christ, who only preached “LOVE & PEACE” to ALL mankind equally.
Color, race, ethnicity, background and religion are all irrelevant .. all humans are equal in Jesus’ teachings.
Or maybe you’re talking about another Jesus different from the one we all know !
LeftisruiningCanada says
There is an interesting desire in some quarters to ignore the fact that Christ did not only preach the Good News of the Gospel, but also the Bad News of the perfection required under the Law, without which the Gospel makes no sense.
He talked about judgment and Hell quite a bit too….
He even said that “unless you believe that I Am, you will die in your sins.”
Christ did preach a kind of equality – that we are all of us condemned already if we attempt to justify ourselves before God, instead of trusting in Christ’s perfect works as our only hope.
Will you believe Him?
Elisha says
You should study the Bible instead of making ignorant comments. The coming of Jesus Christ here predicted 700 BC (this ALONE gives no one an excuse for rejecting God’s truth!):
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
Though you are little among the thousands of Judah,
Yet out of you shall come forth to Me
The One to be Ruler in Israel,
Whose goings forth are from of old,
From everlasting.” – Micah 5:2
The LORD has taken away your punishment, he has turned back your enemy. The LORD, the King of Israel, is with you; never again will you fear any harm. – Zephaniah 3:15
Hmmm, you were saying something about post regarding a different Jesus Christ? Or do you wish to be “irrelevant” come Judgement Day? Don’t say you weren’t warned!
You’re welcome.
Bro. Nick Nicholas says
‘Elisha’ and ‘LeftisruiningCanada’ – Thank you both for your Biblical stand and support of “ISRAEL” – the “JEWISH” people and their God Given Eternal Homeland
– For there are more and exponentially-more people who call themselves ‘Christians’ who DO NOT believe the Eternal “certainty of the words of truth that “the LORD of hosts, the God of ISRAEL” ~ “the Lord God omnipotent” did inspire the following words to be written in “the word of the Lord”:
~ ~ ~
And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark,
behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.
IN THE SAME DAY THE LORD MADE A COVENANT WITH ABRAM,
SAYING, UNTO THY SEED HAVE I GIVEN THIS LAND,
FROM the river of Egypt UNTO the great river, the river Euphrates:
(Genesis 15:17-18 ~ AV)
~ ~ ~
Remember Abraham, Isaac, and ISRAEL, thy servants,
TO WHOM THOU SWAREST BY THINE OWNS SELF,
AND SAIDST UNTO THEM,
I WILL MULTIPLY YOUR SEED AS THE STARS OF HEAVEN,
AND ALL THIS LAND THAT I HAVE SPOKEN OF WILL I GIVE UNTO YOUR SEED,
AND THEY SHALL INHERIT IT FOR EVER.
(Genesis 32:13 ~ AV)
~ ~ ~
AND Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan,
AND blessed me,
AND said unto me, Behold, I will make thee fruitful,
AND multiply thee,
AND I will make of thee a multitude of people;
AND WILL GIVE THIS LAND TO THY SEED AFTER THEE FOR AN EVERLASTING POSSESSION.
(Genesis 48:3-4 ~ AV)
~ ~ ~
O YE SEED OF ABRAHAM HIS SERVANT,
YE CHILDREN OF JACOB HIS CHOSEN.
He is the LORD our God: his judgments are in all the earth.
HE HATH REMEMBERED HIS COVENANT FOR EVER, THE WORD WHICH HE COMMANDED TO A THOUSAND GENERATIONS.
WHICH COVENANT HE MADE WITH ABRAHAM,
AND HIS OATH UNTO ISAAC;
AND CONFIRMED THE SAME UNTO JACOB FOR A LAW,
AND TO ISRAEL FOR AN EVERLASTING COVENANT:
SAYING,
UNTO THEE WILL I GIVE THE LAND OF CANAAN, THE LOT OF YOUR INHERITANCE:
(Psalm 105:6-11 ~ AV)
.
Denny Scales says
In a speech at the Herzliya Conference, Israel’s military intelligence chief, Major General Herzi Halevy, took Israel’s long-standing position that it “prefers ISIS” over the Syrian government declaring openly that Israel does not want to see ISIS defeated in the war.
Pharisees taught the oral tradition they believed superior to the law of Moses oral tradition passed on in secret taught by the Pharisees. babylon Talmud, completely controls Judaism today is not the faith of Israelites, what we see now is the faith of Pharisees. The Talmud has a death penaltiy threats to those who dare share what is in this shockingly evil book that; calls ALL non-Jews “goyim” and can be cheated, lied to and even murdered if it aids Israel…or them. It also states that sex between men or women with children under the age of nine is NOT a crime. Christ is the fulfillment of the law Galatians Chapter 3:16 & 3:26-29 The Church is Israel, not a piece of land, and not a specific race.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Surely “not all Israel is Israel”, we know.
But that doesn’t mean God had forsaken His people either.
Mike says
Evangelical Christians “get it” more than secular Jews, these days, I find.
They know what it’s really about.
Israelis seem to be realising this more and more. The long history of Christian anti-semitism has made Jews wary of Christians generally, but evangelicals *are* totally different.
samdav7 says
There’s no ANTI-anybody in Christian Theology .. you need to educate yourself much more.
LeftisruiningCanada says
But sadly there is a History of anti semitism in Christianity.
I agree that it cannot be supported from the NT.
Pere LaChaise says
Exactly. Rulers and mobs take advantage of sentiment to gain partisan support, scapegoating foreigners like Jews, but there is nothing Christian about that.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Acts 4 and Romans 11 alone should be enough for anyone to see that hating Jews is not something Christians should be doing. As if the teachings of Christ aren’t sufficient anyway!
That anti semitism has been part of Christian history only goes to show how, as you said, certain interested parties can mislead and distort true things. Satan hates anything to do with Gods plans. Israel is part of His plan, and so is hated by Satan also.
Satans tactics are obvious to anyone with eyes to see them. They look a lot like the tactics islam employs.
Elisha says
No “anti anybody”? Really?
For this you know with certainty, that no immoral or impure person or covetous man, who is an idolater, has an inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. – Ephesians 5:7
I wrote you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people. – 1 Corinthians 5:9
Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? – 2 Corinthians 6:14
Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. – 1 John 2:22
He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” – Revelation 21:7-8
And he said to me, “Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand. He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.” – Revelation 22:10-11
Oops!
Elisha says
Mike – Many Jews one day will also “get it”:
“And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.” – Zechariah 12:10
Interestingly, the first sentence is Jesus speaking. The second sentence, the Father is speaking. The Old Testament is full of references to the Triune nature of God. Michael Heiser, PhD, is an ancient languages scholar, historian, etc and a very interesting witness for Christ. Many Jews that have attended his lectures have commented saying that they can now see God’s nature once examining Scripture carefully. God raises up a variety of people in the hope that as many as possible will be saved. Please take the time to consider the following lecture of his:
The Belief in Jesus as God before Nicea and the Exalted Christ of Gnosticism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7Ry_uEMG-k&t=3677s
God bless.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Andrew Harodd, which God loves people of evils the Jews?. That God must be the Satan the father of evils .Look at savageries the fascist evil Zionist state of Israel have been committing on Palestinians, yet they are loved by your evil god. you are wicked!!
LeftisruiningCanada says
But it’s ok for muslims, who can do no wrong, to rape and murder anyone they like, at any time, wherever they are, isn’t it Ibrahim. That’s different isn’t it….
Maybe if the Pals were serious about the kind of peace settlement that involves leaving Jews alive, and stopped launching rockets at them all the time, they wouldn’t get justified responses back at them.
You should be blaming the other arab muslim nations for using the Pals and their children as a constant battering ram against a nation that is not going to go away, no matter how hard they stamp their feet and cry.
R Russell says
Ibrahim,
Your comment is not up to your usual standards.
You are using a logical fallacy. As such there is no point in engaging with what you said.
BTW, The Bible Jesus wants you to get to know him. You are being foolish to resist.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed has already said many times that he seeks the destruction of civilized democratic Israel, as well as the genocide of the Jews. *Ugh*.
Elisha says
LOL!! If only you had the courage to read God’s word in the Bible:
EVERY nation destroyed by the TRUE living God in Christ Jesus on Judgement Day is … an ISLAMIC STATE!
“The Lord will save the tents of Judah first, so that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem shall not become greater than that of Judah. In that day the Lord will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the Lord before them. It shall be in that day that I WILL SEEK TO DESTROY ALL THE NATIONS THAT COME AGAINST JERUSALEM.” – Zechariah 12:7-9
Then the word of the LORD of hosts came, saying, “Thus says the LORD of hosts, ‘I am EXCEEDINGLY JEALOUS FOR ZION, yes, WITH GREAT WRATH I AM JEALOUS FOR HER.’ “Thus says the LORD, ‘I WILL RETURN TO ZION and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem. Then Jerusalem will be called the City of Truth, and the mountain of the LORD of hosts will be called the Holy Mountain.’ – Zechariah 8:1-3
The LORD LOVES THE GATES OF ZION MORE THAN ALL THE OTHER DWELLING PLACES OF JACOB . – Psalm 87:2
But chose the tribe of Judah, Mount Zion WHICH HE LOVED. – Psalm 78:68
JUDAH BECAME HIS SANCTUARY, ISRAEL, HIS DOMINION. – Psalm 114:2
For the LORD has chosen Zion; He has desired it for His habitation. – Psalm 132:13
It is like the dew of Hermon Coming down upon the mountains of Zion; For there the LORD commanded the blessing– life forever. – Psalm 133:3
Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised in THE CITY OF OUR GOD, in the mountain of his holiness. Beautiful for elevation, the joy of the whole earth, IS MOUNT ZION, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King. – Psalm 48:1-2
The LORD is great in Zion, And He is exalted above all the peoples. – Psalm 99:2
His tabernacle is in Salem; His dwelling place also is in Zion. – Psalm 76:2
Cry aloud and shout for joy, O inhabitant of Zion, For great in your midst is the Holy One of ISRAEL. – Isaiah 12:6
Sing praises to the LORD, WHO DWELLS IN ZION; Declare among the peoples His deeds. – Psalm 9:11
Blessed be the LORD from Zion, WHO DWELLS IN JERUSALEM. Praise the LORD! – Psalm 135:21
Break forth, shout joyfully together, You waste places of Jerusalem; For the LORD has comforted His people, HE HAS REDEEMED JERUSALEM. – Isaiah 52:9
“I will feed your oppressors with their own flesh, And they will become drunk with their own blood as with sweet wine; And all flesh will know that I, the LORD, am your Savior And your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.” – Isaiah 49:26
Praise the mighty name of Jesus Christ!!!
Alan Kornman says
Outstanding article – and thanks for telling the Jerusalem Jane story.
Watch this 2 minute video of us with Jerusalem Jane on the Temple Mount.
Jane has an important message about the Temple Mount where two worlds collide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veyrCIloTcc
gravenimage says
Thanks for the link.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Love the music at the end of the video 🙂
The face thing is pretty weird.
Sarah Boakes says
Every word is true Jane I’m still praying for you every night and covering you with tge blood of Yeshua. Keep up telling truths. May our Lord richly bless you.
Love Sarah Boakes. (Gemma Blechs friend from England). Xxxxxxx
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Leftruinigcanada, be honest. Is it morally justified to kill one thousand Palestinians for mere throwing stones to occupying Israeli soldiers and demolishing their houses while they are still inside? one Jewish Rabbi issued a religious decree according to evil Talmud that injuring one fingernail of a Jew justified killing of one million Palestinians. The decree is being executed by fascist evil Zionist state of Israel. Is this wickedness acceptable to your god?
R Russell says
I will offer an answer while you are waiting for Leftruiningcanada.
Muslims kill people by stoning. You know that. That’s what Muslims do to women caught in adultery.
Therefore to suggest stone throwing is a minor offence really doesn’t describe the deadliness of the attacks.
The video close to the end shows the use of slings. These are the same types of slings which King David used as a teenager when with one stone he stunned the 10 foot tall Goliath .
That is how deadly the stone throwing can be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMT0JulZRQ8
LeftisruiningCanada says
Please provide some evidence of your claims Ibrahim, i’m not going to debate what ifs on this subject.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Leftruinigcanada, be honest. Is it morally justified to kill one thousand Palestinians for mere throwing stones to occupying Israeli soldiers and demolishing their houses while they are still inside? one Jewish Rabbi issued a religious decree according to evil Talmud that injuring one fingernail of a Jew justified killing of one million Palestinians. The decree is being executed by fascist evil Zionist state of Israel. Is this wickedness acceptable to your god?
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Of course, Ibrahim itace muhammed has said that Infidels have no right to defend against violent Jihad. He has also said the seeks the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jews.
gravenimage says
Jerusalem Jane’s Israeli Love Story
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Thanks for telling us Jane’s story, Mr. Harrod!
nicholas tesdorf says
Matthew 5:17
“Think not that I am come to destroy the Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
another Jwreader, read history. palestinian ancestors had been on the land before Abraham the ancestor of the Jews or Israelites. Abraham was a guest from Babylon, while Palestinian ancestors were the host. Tell me what was the name of that area before Abraham who was the grandfather of Jacob or Israel from which the family got the name Israel?Are you saying the original inhabitants were erased pursuant to evil Bible in Samuel 15:3?
R Russell says
Ibrahim.
I surmise you are speaking of the Canaanites.
If you read the OT carefully, you will discover that the Canaanites had Nephilim blood. The only peoples in the OT who were to be destroyed totally were the hybrid races, man or beast hybrids. The genepool was to be eliminated. (As often happened, the Israelites did not obey YHWH fully so some remained.) So if you want to say the ‘Palestinians’ ie Canaanites were hybrids then according to you the modern day ‘Palestinians’ are hybrids (which if you research the Philistines/Phoenicians back to Crete, you will discover they also were hybrids.) The Phoenician language was Canaanite. If you accept the ‘Canaanite’ origin for the ‘Palestinians’ then you are saying the ‘Palestinians’ are descendants of hybrids YHWH intended to rid the world of.
Have a look at the dispersion of the descendants of Noah after Babel. There are lots of articles and youtube videos showing their distribution across the world. Some of migrants had Nephilim blood through two of the wives of Noah’s 3 sons. Noah was’ Perfect in his generations’ meaning his bloodline was not polluted.
You must know what the Muslims call, ‘The Great Wall of China’? Do you know why it needed to be so tall? Yes these potential invaders, Gog and Magog, were Nephilim giants. That is why the wall is so tall. See the distribution of the descendants after Babel and where the went.
What I am about to say, is not a criticism, but an observation. It is well known that bestiality is permitted in Islam. There are rules about it, but the animal has no say in the matter. Like everything else in Islam, the animal must submit to the man. Muslims throughout the world, and now especially in Europe in recent years are attacking animals sexually. Are Muslims trying to say that, just as the Canaanites as hybrids (there were also Nephilim hybrids with animals) were fully aware of the animal hybrids, modern day descendants of the Canaanites are also practicing bestiality, as was practiced by the Canaanite hybrids, which was abhorrent to YHWH?
1 Samuel 15:
The Amalekites were also a hybrid race. The genepool was to be eliminated. If you don’t understand the content and context you cannot logically criticise it.
Meanwhile, evidence of Nephilim Hybrids below as they spread across the world.. Even the Egyptian murals show a giant race with conical heads being served by much smaller humans. The skull bones of the Nephilim are different from the skull bones of humans with fewer bones and the Nephilim have 6 digits on each hand, not as a genetic copying error, but as part of their genepool. That is why the N A Indians greeted people with a hand held open an high – to display only 5 fingers, thus not the ferocious 6 fingered hybrid killers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0g8hNKFQAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgb-MW8VMsE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wdXhiwtu-w
Tell me Ibrahim, If the ‘Palestinians’ belonged to another religion altogether, would you be interested in them? Somehow I don’t think you would – unless Islam would want to do to them what their Islamic fathers did to the forefathers of the ‘Palestinians’, force them to convert or die.
Meanwhile, The Bible Jesus still invites you to meet Him.
LeftisruiningCanada says
You’re into all that Steve Quayle stuff are you? He’s a great story teller i’ll give him that much. Please don’t take this as an attack. I’ve listened to him and others on this stuff before, and have carefully placed it in the ‘not going to think about’ draw 🙂
gravenimage says
LeftisruiningCanada, thanks for the head’s up as to where this stuff comes from.
Kepha says
Merry Christmas to all.
The heart of God’s purposes for mankind do not center on a piece of land between the Jordan and the Mediterranean. They focus on those who are gathered about his Anointed–Jesus the Messiah–whether they are Jewish or Gentile.
This being said, there is a lot more to be said for Israel in the current Mideast crisis than can be said for those who wish to wipe it off the map.
gravenimage says
A belated Merry Christmas to you as well, Kepha!
dumbledoresarmy says
There is a great book by a great Frenchman, Jacques Ellul, whose tree grows in the avenue of the righteous at Yad Vashem. It is called “Un Chretien Pour Israel”. He published it in 1983. It has never been translated into English; but it *ought* to be. I read it in French. He analyses the enormous anti-Israel propaganda; he analyses the Arab (and non-Arab) Muslim war upon Israel and correctly identifies it as a Jihad. (He also wrote a brilliant essay on Jihad, for the foreword of his friend Bat Yeor’s book “The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam”; Ellul, an elder scholar and academic, befriended and encouraged Bat Yeor and promoted her work).
I commend ‘Un Chretien Pour Israel’ to every person here who can read French. The chapter on ‘Propaganda’ (that is: on the vast anti-Israel propaganda, that was promulgated by the Soviets at the time of Ellul’s research and writing, but *also* by the Muslim world) is very, very illuminating.
gravenimage says
Thank you, DDA.
FYI says
“You Samaritans do not really know who you worship but we Jews know who we worship,because it is from the Jews that salvation comes.
But the time is coming and is already here,when by the power of God’s Spirit,people will worship the Father as He really is,offering Him the TRUE worship that he wants.
GOD IS SPIRIT:and only by the power of His spirit can people worship Him as He really is”
Jesus Christ says in ..
JOHN 4 V 22-24
Thus, TRUE worship does not involve hypocritically praying 5 times a day to an anti-Semitic,anti-Christian caricature of God called “allah”.
And the fact that God is Spirit we see is constantly being blasphemed by certain muslim apologists on JW;and since they curse and despise His Spirit they do not
“worship Him as He really is”.
They don’t know God.They blaspheme His spirit.
And yet,in their false piety,they imagine paradise awaits them!
“If the Lord is God,
follow Him.
But if baal be your god,
follow him.”
I Kings 18 v 21
God or allah?
choose wisely.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
FYI, do you mean your God is a spirit like other spirits He created ?True God is the most High above all spirits including the so-called Holy Spirit (the Satan) the father of all evils.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Not “a” spirit, Ibrahim, “Spirit”.
Where on earth did you get the idea that the Holy Spirit is Satan?
CRUSADER says
Can’t spell Jerusalem without U S A
Birte Bune Smith says
Kære Jane,
jeg har aldrig hørt om dig før, men glæder mig over nu at have mødt dig. Er det ikke muligt for dig at skrive i nogle af de danske medier, det kunne godt tiltrænges, sådan som Israel omtales
Venlig hilsen og mange ønsker om et godt og fredfyldt nyt år for dig og det land, du har valgt at bosætte dig i
Birte
marc says
from google translate “I’ve never heard of you before, but looking forward to meeting you now. Is it not possible for you to write in some of the Danish media that might be needed, as Israel is mentioned
Sincerely and many wishes for a good and peaceful new year for you and the country you have chosen to settle in”
gravenimage says
Thanks for the translation, Marc.
Lydia Church says
“But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.” Romans 2; 29
“Peace and mercy to all who walk by this rule, even to the Israel of God.” Galatians 6; 16
There are endless Bible verses to refute the false idea that God loves Israel more than His church.
The true church is the Israel of God.
The nation Israel is in place for the fulfillment of Bible prophesy, which will honor Jesus.
Before that, God sends the two witnesses to Israel, who are in Jerusalem calling them to repentance and faith in Jesus, but they are martyred there, in the ‘Holy Land’:
“When the two witnesses have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the abyss will wage war with them, and will overpower and kill them. Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city — figuratively called Sodom and Egypt — where their Lord was also crucified.” Revelation 11; 7-8
This is describing Jerusalem at the time. It is very important to not get confused about these details and distinctions. Heavenly Jerusalem comes from above and is the church at the return of Christ. (see Revelation final chapters). Too many have been led off with a hook in the nose to idolatry via Israel ‘worship’ in the ‘church.’
Read Ezekiel chapter 37, this appears to be describing the period after the Holocaust and Israel’s return. Flesh is on the bones, but the Spirit is not inside yet. That is yet future. See John chapter 3.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
R Russell, you mean your evil god you call Yahweh (an ancient Idol) has decreed that a whole human race be erased including infants who do not know how to have sex with animals? That your god must be the Satan the father of evils and injustice.
you lied by saying Islam permits bestiality. can you supply evidence?. Prophet Muhammad explicitly stated that he who have sex with animals shall be put to death after duly tried and found guilty for the offense. Bestiality is common among filthy mithraist Christians as it was reported that a Frenchman asked his African lover to sexually satisfy his dog and horse. when she refused he got her deported back to Africa.
gravenimage says
Talk about projection!
Ibrahim itace muhammed is genocidal himself, and it is well known that it is the Muslim world where on-line searches for bestiality are most common.
As for the insane comment that people are deported from France for not engaging in bestiality–which he has made before–this is absurd. I have repeatedly asked him for links to this supposed story, and he has always ignored these requests.
But then, when have pious Muslims ever believed that they have to supply proof for their ludicrous assertions?
LeftisruiningCanada says
Yeah, this is a pretty good ‘quality’ comment from Ibrahim. Definitely above average.
“Mithra, Mithra, Mithra”…it’s time for ibrahim to provide something to support his mithra mantra too, but we know he won’t.
gravenimage says
So true.
jon says
It sure aint over til it’s over! What we’ve witnessed around the world so far, not just in the USA, UK, Australia, Europe etc, is only the preliminary to a major war, fought internally in each country as we try to eliminate the terrorism in our midsts. But a high degree of cooperation among governments is necessary, a recognition of the common threat to Western democracy, and that is not forthcoming. Countries like Germany have banned criticism of the disastrous refugee policy launched by Angela Merkel, a policy which has affected the whole of Europe. Other governments are playing the game of maintaining lies, feeding pabulum to the masses, denying that the growing attacks by Muslims are actually terrorist in nature. They think we’re all fools!