Malaysian Imam Azhar Idrus stated that “girls are getting married at a later age due to education, adding that they are about 28 years old by the time they are finished with university” and that by “28 years old, no one would want to marry them.”
Robert Spencer addresses the acceptance of child marriage in Islam here, and with respect to Malaysia, traditional Muslims have been stalling efforts to reform child marriage laws.
As an overview of this atrociously abusive practice: in Turkey, there have been at least 500,000 known child brides; nearly 6,000 now exist in Saudi Arabia under the age of 14; Muslim migrant child brides have been discovered in Germany, while refugee workers say that the people in those marriages should remain in the country. These are children in need of protection, but a two-tier system is now in progress, and an accepted abuse of females is part of it. The UK has now declared it is “powerless” to do anything about Islamic child marriage because of some “legal loophole.” That was announced three years ago, and still there has been no announcements on fixing this “loophole.”
“Preacher lambasted for saying girls should get married at 15”, by Mei Mei Chu, The Star, December 28, 2017:
PETALING JAYA: Moderation advocates have condemned the statement by preacher Azhar Idrus, saying that Muslim girls are marriageable at age 15 and Muslim women should not take photos in non-Muslim owned photo studios.
In a Harakah Daily reader question-and-answer section, Azhar answered a query about the boundaries between men and women by saying that women are marriageable at 15 after they have reached puberty.
He said, however, girls are getting married at a later age due to education, adding that they are about 28 years old by the time they are finished with university.
“But at 28 years old, no one would want to marry them and even if there were, the woman’s value has dropped,” he said in the article published on Monday (Dec 25).
He added that women are “only worth RM15 or RM16” at the age of 28.
Azhar added it is haram (prohibited) for teenagers of a marriageable age to befriend men unless the intention is to marry the man.
“Even after finishing school, it is haram to befriend men in any way at all,” he said.
In a question about men keeping photos of other women, Azhar said that Muslim women should not take photos at photo studios owned by non-Muslims.
“Do not take photos at non-Muslim establishments because it is shameful if your children or wife’s photos fall into the hands of non-Muslims,” he said.
Azhar added that the photos may be misused.
When contacted Thursday, Group of 25 Eminent Malays (G25) spokesman Datuk Noor Farida said Azhar should be investigated for sedition over his statement.
She said Azhar and his archaic views are dangerous to Malaysia’s multiracial society as he has a big following and has the potential to influence others, especially in a country where people have a tendency to blindly follow their ustaz’s word.
“In Islam, our Prophets honoured women. Women had many rights, were given properties and even the Prophet’s wife Khadijah bint Khuwaylid was a businesswoman,” said Noor Farida.
She added that women have careers and choices, adding it is deplorable to say that older women are not marriageable.
Sisters in Islam said Azhar’s statement is harmful as it perpetuates child marriages and promotes a culture that objectifies and sexualises women.
“To say that women should marry at 15 is encouraging child marriage,” it said.
Meanwhile, moderation advocate Mohamed Tawfik Ismail said Azhar’s responses are his personal opinion, as opposed to being based on the Quran.
“The Prophet married Khadijah when she was over 40 years old and yet the ustaz can flippantly place the value of a 28 year old at RM15. What verse is he quoting,” said Tawfik.
He adds that Azhar’s comments about Muslim women only patronising Muslim photographers are illogical and prejudiced….
clap says
I think this is his way of saying that girls shouldn’t go to school or get an education.
abad says
Bingo, and historically, Islam has forbidden education to the female gender. Of course it still does in places like Afghanistan and if a girl decides to go to school her family and imam does so begrudgingly.
But as a woman, I do not have a high opinion of Islam at all with the way it treats my gender.
mortimer says
Azhar Idrus … the smiling, happy misogynist.
gravenimage says
True. It is also his way of saying he wants to reap children.
gravenimage says
That should be “rape”.
gravenimage says
Actually, I was also right the first time…
Lydia Church says
And what interest does a pedophile have in a girl that has already become a woman?
Only a real man would want a woman, but a pedophile wants the little girls…
mortimer says
A pedophile PREFERS children for the imbalance of power. A pedophile craves absolute dominance. Islam’s emotional subtext is sadomasochism.
gravenimage says
Yes–Islam always targets the vulnerable.
Some pedophiles really are sexually drawn to pre-pubescent girls–but far more common is sadists enjoying the imbalance of power. *Ugh*.
Robert_k says
As Boko Haram (Western Education is forbidden) in Nigeria so it is in Malaysia.
J D S says
Every day there is more stupidness coming out of islam…..if not for the violence one could say Islam is laughable.
mortimer says
Agree, JDS. Islam is counter-rational and counter-factual. One must be self-hypnotized to acquiesce to its hundreds of absurdities. Example: The sun does not set in a warm, muddy spring (Koran 18.86). Mohammed also confirms the Koran in an hadith.
Save Europe says
I also think this pervy old Imam wouldn’t turn down a 28 year old as he is suggesting. He’s not much of a looker.
Judith Keegan says
Do these people ever get tired of talking shit?
katherine says
On the contrary – they get energized with perks and cash for pushing the Islamist agenda in publications, sermons and lectures ( in schools and colleges even ). The Malaysian prime minister’s office allocates almost USD250 million annually to its Islamic Department without accounting procedures or queries on spending. These preposterous edicts by Muslim clergy are simply the payback to show affirmative results for such largesse awarded.
Meanwhile leading downstream officials in the network of federal, state and local religious org. are paid USD5000 per month to carry out their nefarious activities concentrating on indoctrination and subtle threats to the public thru unlimited and uncensored media access. All this unproductive spending in a country where the main body of low-ranking workers earn USD500 per month ( ignore the official statistics about GDP per capita ) Does this sound familiar ?
A lot of information regarding this one-sided jihad in Malaysia may be gleaned from websites like Malaysiakini, Sarawak Report ( UK ) or Yahoo News ( S’pore ) I would be grateful for info on websites I may not be aware of.
No Fear says
36 percent of marriages in Indonesia involve girls under 16.
gravenimage says
Yes–and it is even worse in may parts of Dar-al-Islam.
gravenimage says
many
Stacy Girl says
And probably Michigan
CRUSADER says
Our politician pedophiles have done little in contrast with these Muslim fanatics!
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Off topic but very good news:
Merkel made it to the worst politician list:
https://www.rt.com/news/414489-worst-german-politicians-poll/
le mouron rouge says
And she was able to get re-elected!
That doesn’t speak well of the German people.
gravenimage says
Actually, more Germans voted against Merkel than for her. It is just that the opposition was too fragmented.
le mouron rouge says
gravenimage,
That may be accurate, however, my point being, “if” the German people “really” wanted a change, then, even with their complicated voting system, they would not have voted for her party in such large numbers.
See the election map – https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-german-election-results/
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
The gift of proportional representation.
The government is not formed by the people but by the political party that can cobble together a majority, often behind closed doors.
Jayell says
That’s the same situation as with Khan’s ‘success’ in London. Assuming that the two scenarios share a similar background, there seems to be a pattern developing here based on the way in which different ethnic groups focus their votes. How ‘German’ were the ‘German’ voters who voted for Merkel?
gravenimage says
le mouron rouge, that map is so complicated it made my head hurt.
And Flavius, you are right about the political parties.
LR says
“That may be accurate, however, my point being, “if” the German people “really” wanted a change, then, even with their complicated voting system, they would not have voted for her party in such large numbers.”
Maybe just another example of, ‘The devil you know is better than the devil you don’t know’…
LeftisruiningCanada says
In Germany’s case, the devil they know is bringing in the devils they don’t know.
And not only in Germany’s case actually…
le mouron rouge says
LR says
Dec 28, 2017 at 10:21 pm
“Maybe just another example of, ‘The devil you know is better than the devil you don’t know’…
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If that’s the case, then the German people are reaping what they have sown.
I agree with LeftisruiningCanada: “In Germany’s case, the devil they know is bringing in the devils they don’t know.
And not only in Germany’s case actually…”
“There is no act of treachery or meanness of which a political party is not capable; for in politics there is no honour.”
– Benjamin Disraeli (1804-1881)
ralph and mary crossen says
Thats because most muslim girls after 15 aren’t virgins anymore and muslims are so obsessed with virginity, they cant deal with non-virgins.
Champ says
islam: the religion of misogyny …islam is *wholly* evil!
Undaunted says
Chaaaaaamp. How are you? Haven’t seen your handle here for a while.
Champ says
Hi Undaunted! Doing well, thank you …how are you?
Merry Christmas (belated) and Happy New Year to you and yours!
DHazard says
True Islam. You know, the thing liberals and feminists pretend doesn’t exist.
LeftisruiningCanada says
““But at 28 years old, no one would want to marry them and even if there were, the woman’s value has dropped,” ”
Said the old smiling pedophile.
Bet he’s paid high prices for kiddies to fiddle, and is proud of it.
tgusa says
Muslims must have forced child marriage. After all, who in their right mind would voluntarily marry one of them?
LeftisruiningCanada says
They definitely force their children.
gravenimage says
Spot on, tgusa.
John says
Women and children do not have a choose in islamic countries, their families sell them off or kill them for dishonoring their family if they do not marry those chosen for them. This happens in islamic countries where 100% True islam is Lived and Followed. , not in Western moderate practices as much but as their population rises, so does their Barbaric Practices . ISIS is 100% True islam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWORE6OBfhc , Undeniable Proof as spoken from a Mecca imam in Saudi Arabia .
Jayell says
What’s this? Their value drops after the age of 15? Is that when the guarantee runs out? Oh, sorry, we’re talking about people, not second-hand cars! So what happens at age 40? Flog them off for spares on ebay?
mortimer says
The VALUE OF WOMEN to their family is the whole issue with the HONOR CULTURE of Islam.
A woman who doesn’t give VALUE to the patriarch is worthless or burdensome. The Islamic veil’s purpose is that of MONEY … to keep the MONEY within the family and the clan. To keep her from marrying someone outside the immediate family, the girl must be veiled so that know one outside the family sees her face and recognizes her.
gravenimage says
Here is how marriage–that loving union–is described in Islam:
The Prophet said, “the stipulation most entitled to be abided by are those which you are given the right to enjoy the (woman’s) private parts. In other words, the most important thing a woman brings to marriage is between her legs”
–Sahih Bukhari 62:81
Wellington says
Yes, gravenimage, imagine Jesus, Buddha, Confucius, et al. saying something along these lines as Mo did. Inclining, to put it mildly, towards the unthinkable.
And tending to prove, massive misogyny aside (big “aside” here), that there is nothing about Islam which is spiritual. Nothing. My God, even the damn Muslim conception of Heaven is rooted in material pleasure. How crude, perpetually child-like and immensely stupid the Islamic faith is.
There is no defense for believing in it. None.
Jayell says
Whatever sophisticated-sounding explanation one might want to give for this smirking imam’s pearl of wisdom, if you substitute the word ‘car’ (or some other similar commodity) for ‘girl’ of ‘woman’, it still makes the same kind of sense. Not that we have any cause to be complacent about all this blatant islamic misogyny here in the equally misandric West, with its blatantly skewed feminist media and justice/education systems. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones although there’s no denying Wellington’s excellent observation on the standard of islam’s philosophical quality which just about equates to the level of debate between a group of Millwall Football Club supporters after an hour in the pub if you ignore the Anglo-Saxon vocabulary.
gravenimage says
True, Wellington. No other major religious leader ever said such a thing.
gravenimage says
Jayell wrote:
Not that we have any cause to be complacent about all this blatant islamic misogyny here in the equally misandric West, with its blatantly skewed feminist media and justice/education systems.
…………………………..
Jayell, I do take your point, and am *no* fan of the type of “feminist” who denigrates men.
But as bad as things are, and without minimizing the situation, the idea that it is as bad for men in the contemporary West as it is for women in Dar-al-Islam is just off base.
Men are not prevented from getting an education, from working, and from leaving the house without female permission. Men are not stoned to death after being sexually abused.
One can stand against the current excesses in the West that are anti-male–I certainly do–without having to overstate them.
In the same way, I can–and do–stand against residual misogyny in the West without characterizing it as anything like that in the Muslim world.
And here’s wishing you a Happy New Year!
le mouron rouge says
Jayell says
Dec 28, 2017 at 6:31 pm
What’s this? Their value drops after the age of 15?
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It appears that is when women trapped in Islam start to realize what hell must be like!
gravenimage says
Muhammed married Khadija–his boss–when he was 25 and she was about 40. No one forced him to marry her. He married her either out of genuine fondness or because she was a wealthy woman–or both–but he did not have to marry her.
He also had enough skills as a successful leader of caravans that he could no doubt have gone to work for a competitor if she had been pressuring him to marry her in a manner he considered coercive.
LR says
Jayell,
Keep up that dark sense of humour…We need it…
LeftisruiningCanada says
“So what happens at age 40? Flog them off for spares on ebay?”
Let’s not dismiss the idea that there probably is an online way to buy and sell sex slaves, of all ages. There are probably still slave markets happening in the darker corners of islamic countries, so having them online would be a perfectly logical step.
In the west we have online dating, and even online ‘escort’ and wife-finding services.
Under islam, it will be worse even than these.
John says
Women and children do not have a choose in islamic countries, their families sell them off or kill them for dishonoring their family if they do not marry those chosen for them. This happens in islamic countries where 100% True islam is Lived and Followed. , not in Western moderate practices as much but as their population rises, so does their Barbaric Practices . ISIS is 100% True islam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWORE6OBfhc , Undeniable Proof as spoken from a Mecca imam in Saudi Arabia .
mortimer says
“It is HARAM for women to have any human rights or civil liberties.” – Imam Azhar Idrus
Save Europe says
….and kuffars! They detest us even more!
Undaunted says
He looks like he needs to have his head repeatedly slammed into the nearest hard horizontal surface.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
Undaunted says
The beard makes a perfect handle.
M says
I concur.
gravenimage says
Malaysia: Imam says girls should marry before 15, otherwise their value drops
Malaysian Imam Azhar Idrus stated that “girls are getting married at a later age due to education, adding that they are about 28 years old by the time they are finished with university” and that by “28 years old, no one would want to marry them.”
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Who wants an educated woman capable of adult love when you can rape a frightened child instead?
God I hate Islam.
LeftisruiningCanada says
When you put it like that…..it sounds even worse.
gravenimage says
LeftisruiningCanada, that’s exactly how bad it is.
Wellington says
“Imam says girls should marry before 15, otherwise their value drops.”
Well, of course, he would. No surprise here. I mean this silly bastard is a good Muslim after all, no?
But reason enough for ALL sensible and informed females to reject Islam since it is the “ready-made” religion for males lording over females in this world. Forever like. Thus, the term, “enlightened female Muslim,” is as much an oxymoron as is the term, “an enlightened Stanford University administrator” (just couldn’t resist this one).
No sensible and informed woman should willingly be a Muslim or an apologist for Islam, anymore than any black should willingly be a Muslim or an apologist for Islam considering Mohammed’s comments on blacks (e.g., that they’re “raisinheads,” per Bukhari hadith 1:662) and the fact that Islam’s record on black slavery is 1) far more extensive than that of the West; and 2) Islam, unlike the Judeo-Christian, Western world, has never apologized for engaging in this particular iniquity.
Also, and as gravenimage aptly mentioned just the other day on another thread, the Islamic world, when enslaving black males, castrated them en masse, contra the Western world which did not do this. Proof: Look at how many descendants of black slaves in the New World, i.e., North and South America, exist today compared to how many blacks exist in, let’s see here, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia——ah, it’s a long list indeed.
Yes,show me a woman who is willingly a Muslim and I will show you a fool. Ditto for any black human being, whether male or female. I rest my case and challenge anyone (this would include you, Ibrahim) to demonstrate, to cogently refute, why I am wrong in these assertions of mine.
I despise Islam. And I contend that despising Islam is the only humane, sensible, informed and proper directive to follow. For the female gender’s sake. For black human beings’ sake. For freedom’s sake. For….. For….. For….. For…..
gravenimage says
Good post, Wellington. And thank you for citing my comments of the other day.
Save Europe says
+1
Save Europe says
Agreed, and ANY woman who converts to Islam, along with boxer Mohamed Ali types are the most insane, when one considers things. Louis Farrakhan is another.
Dan says
Yeah, pretty hard to pedophile a 28 year old, i’nt it, Mustamed?
Save Europe says
PMSL!
LeftisruiningCanada says
Since islam seems largely to be a ruse for sexual perversion, perhaps the “smiling peado” seen above has given us another way to view the 4 wives allowance.
If we take his age range as a rough guide on the age range within which a muslim man considers women to be attractive and salable, then we have a minimum of 13 years of ‘value’, assuming that some silly girl waits until the advanced age of 15 to be wed.
Then, if we assume that young muslim men begin to be married in their later teen years, say, 17, we then see how the ability to have 4 wives allows a muslim man. capable of support that many, can always make sure he has his pretty young thing, with ever increasing support staff to care for his expanding teams of spawn.
Wife one married at 15. Mans age 17 + 13 years until woman is ‘done’ = 30 year old man.
Wife two married at 15. Mans age 30 + 13 years until woman is ‘decrepit” = 43 year old man.
Wife three married at 15. Mans age 43 + 13 years until woman is ‘haggard’ = 56 year old man.
Wife four married at 15. Mans age 56 + 13 years until woman is ‘repulsive’ = 69 year old man.
With life expectancies on the low side in islamic nations, that about covers it.
With the marriage of younger though, necessarily, more expensive girls it would of course be possible to extract more use from each woman, simply due to the man being more physically energetic.
mohammad surely has shown himself to be most wise, most beneficent, the merciful, to the hundreds of generations of men that follow his fine and upstanding religion. Women should praise his name.
gravenimage says
Moreover, Islam has the “Triple Talaq” instant divorce for men–so, Muslims can actually divorce multiple wives and keep marrying children. About the only impediment to this is that some of the families of the cast-off girls might consider it a matter of family honor and come after some guy who tried too many times.
Probably part of the reason there are so many references to marrying completely unprotected orphan girls in the Qur’an and Hadiths.
LeftisruiningCanada says
That’s true, and opens up many valuable opportunities for the further exploitation of vulnerable young girls, What a well planned system of human destruction islam proves to be, a veritable wrecking ball for the soul and society of man.
gravenimage says
So true, LeftisruiningCanada.
And the Muslim “grooming gangs” in Britain so often go after “at risk” girls who have chaotic, neglectful, abusive, or broken homes.
Matthieu Baudin says
Mid to late 20’s is the biological reproductive prime for women, so the Imam ought to be happy with that. While we can rightly belittle the idea of adolescent marriage as a social goal, it’s worth sobering up to the fact that in developed nations a whole generation have lost touch with the reproductive imperative, as parenthood has been denied the prestige that has historically been its natural due.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Yes, there’s no sense in denying our own collective faults.
Islam does enough of that for everyone on the planet.
LR says
The modern Malaysian women really need to pounce on this guy.
Obviously, he is a perv. like a lot of these pigs…I hope to god they keep up a tough fight and at least raise the marriage age.
LeftisruiningCanada says
There’s room for young men and women to be married under some circumstances imho, but it’s when a 13 year old girl ends up married to a guy significantly older then her when it get’s strange and unhealthy….and yes, perverted.
Matthieu Baudin says
And the modern Malaysian guys should also take the Imam to task.
Save Europe says
I don’t think ‘pouncing’ would be a positive idea. That ‘look’ in his eye suggests otherwise.
Save Europe says
Apologies, and I’m not joking. I initially misread ‘goal’ for ‘goat.’ I need to change my contact lenses.
sidney penny says
Welcome to MMM
Modern Moderate Malaysia
Or as Malaysian Airlines tagline says ‘Malaysia, Truly Asia’
Giving Asia a bad name.
LeftisruiningCanada says
MalAsia.
Sure is.
tgusa says
In a futile attempt to quell their uncontrollable lust I would offer these freaks a herd of young goats but the 8th amendment outlaws the use of cruel and unusual punishment and no matter what anyone says goat lives do matter.
LR says
….”and no matter what anyone says goat lives do matter.”
‘Goat Lives Matter’…Another T-shirt…
If you wore one, then you could let people know what you are referring to when they ask.
tgusa says
“then you could let people know what you are referring to when they ask”
Considering the ignorance out there the conversation would probably go like this,
No way,
Yes.
No way,
Yes.
No way,
Ye… oh forget about it.
Sarah says
You know; whenever I hear idiots like this creature spouting nonsense like this, it reactivates my old, well buried streak of angry feminism LOL.
All I can think of, when I look at that lice ridden freak are things like ‘I bathe in your male tears’.
It must just kill him, to see women out and about, making choices, living their lives freely, not required to submissively wait for him at home, to arrive like the big hero he thinks he is, ready to be served on bended knee. It certainly puts a big sh!t-eating grin on my face, to think of him all distressed because his precious Islam isn’t controlling every woman everywhere.
If anything could make me re-join feminism as a movement, it will be if and when the movement has a thorough purge of the current moron’s involved – and when feminism FINALLY takes a strong, unyielding and furious stand against Islam and the sickening danger that it represents to the female of the species.
This loser needs to go back to his third world mud hut and recomb his beard for lice. Primitive, inbred savage.
Karen says
He makes me feel sorry for the lice.
MFritz says
Remember when there still was hope for Malaysia? Well, soon it will be 7th century all over the country again.
And to islam women are only good as sex slaves, for bearing children and to be sold off like cattle.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Ha.
Brings new meaning to who gets to sit at the childrens table.
Goutam says
Yet another evidence that the value of women in Islam is no greater than a sheep or a goat or a donkey. Is it a wonder why we find the more pious muzzies taking their pet donkeys/sheep as wives, possibly because the women-folk at home has crossed the 15 year age barrier.
revereridesagain says
Wonder how many goats that smirking baby rape-advocating imam paid for his wife.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Depends what he did to his goats before selling them on.
kuriakose says
‘In Islam, our Prophets honoured women. Women had many rights, were given properties and even the Prophet’s wife Khadijah bint Khuwaylid was a businesswoman,” said Noor Farida.
What a liar! So called moderates cannot face the fact their prophet was a sex maniac, child molester, murderer, thief, etc. Khadijah was a businesswomen before islam. After islam became powerful,women were only for sex and procreation. Don’t they feel uneasy that their prophet granted himself 16 special privileges not available for any other man of which 12 were sexual privileges? How could his so called allah grant him such special privileges? Are they so in love with their prophet that they cannot see that the problem lies in their prophet and his concocted religion? They surely are diseased in their minds. The imam is just speaking in accordance with the teachings of islam. He is the honest one.
gravenimage says
Yes–Khadijah was a successful business woman *before* Islam. She was the last women mentioned in the texts of Islam to enjoy such freedom.
Richard Allen says
This Islamaphobe Imman should be saying that girls should be married at 6, if it was good enough for Mohamed, why not other Muslims?
Daulat Tuanku says
Reminder that this is Malaysia… a so-called ‘progressive’ and ‘moderate’ Muslim country.
If you’ve been to Malaysia, you would notice the annoying Muslim idiosyncrasies in the country. For example, Muslim prayer rooms inside malls. Green arrows on hotel room ceilings pointing towards the direction of Mecca. In supermarkets, canned pork and alcoholic beverages placed on a separate shelf far away in the corner, so as to not ‘contaminate’ the halal stuff on the main shelves.
And of course, Muslims in Malaysia are no exception when it comes to shilling for their brethren the ‘Palestinians’… it’s really a sneaky, passive-aggressive way to bash the Jews. Malaysia has an election early next year and almost all politicians are speaking out against Trump’s decision about Jerusalem.
gravenimage says
Thanks for the view on the ground.
Islamic Mirror says
Muhammad had sex with a dead Aunt fatima (ali’s mother ).
In a democratic system ALLAH is the president and muhammad is the prime minister. Allah was the slave of muhammad. Muhammad made sex with his dead aunty fatima (ali’s mother ). How a man can do this? Satan was born in the form of muhammad.
• ” The Muslim legal text, al-Sharwani’s Hawashi, confirms that sex with a dead woman is not sinful or wrong according to Islamic law. This law is based on the example set by Muhammad. According to the hadith, Muhammad had sex with a dead woman before she was put in the grave.
• The gravediggers were so embarrassed that they proceeded to bury the woman’s corpse and the prophet with dirt, exclaiming, “O Prophet, we see you do a thing you never did with anyone else.” Muhammad answered: “I have dressed her in my shirt so that she may be dressed in heavenly robes, and I have farewell intercourse with her in her grave so that the torments of the grave may be alleviated from her.” Recently a new law was proposed in the Muslim Brotherhood dominated Egyptian parliament. It would allow for “farewell intercourse” with a wife’s dead body. Obviously Muslims know very well about this demented practice by Mohammed. Postmortem sex is apparently a traditional value within Islam. Civilized people call it necrophilia and it’s a criminal act.
Under definition of Fatawa , in Wikipedia
In 2011-2012, Abdel-Bari Zamzami of Morocco issued a series of religious edicts that a man has the right to engage in sexual intercourse with his wife up to six hours after her death [47] despite recognizing that such an action is despicable in mainstream society, Zamzami persisted in backing his original fatwa, claiming marriage does not end in death.
Yes and this is a civilized religion ??
Islam respects a woman’s purpose on earth.
If a Muslim man beats his wife to death he can still have sex with her up to six hours after death.
We have got to admire their resourcefulness.
LeftisruiningCanada says
After looking around a bit, i’m not sure this necrophilia thing is accurate.
This link sums up the general response to it:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.ca/2010/07/false-allegation-of-muhammad-having-sx.html
gravenimage says
Hard to tell–this has never been clear to me.
There are Imams who have said that Muslims can have sex with their dead wife’s corpse, though.
Save Europe says
He’s completely correct that it was debated in Egypt….however, the quote which starts ‘O Prophet’ has been added to. The ‘farewell sexual intercourse’ part are not mentioned, and he’s wrong there, totally. Those words don’t exist. However let me say this – again – it was very much debated that Egyptian Muslim men should be allowed to have farewell sex with their deceased spouses. That’s true, indeed. I just believe that in the time of Leftist Fake news, it’s important for us on the opposite side to never mirror them.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Agreed. We don’t need strawmen, since The Real Thing is more then evil enough to start with.
I’m going to check out the Egypt debate you mention.
Karen says
The learned imam Smiley Face must have studied economics, knowing the precise monetary value of a wife. But his calculations are off. A 15 yr old wife provides income only through her physical labor, which lasts as long as her youth or health. An educated 28 yr old has skills to last the rest of her life and produces much higher incomes for her family. The more rational choice is the latter, while granting she is a much less disposable commodity than the former. And, is it inconceivable that a husband might have great pride in his educated, capable and stimulating wife?
Glad to see Malay women speaking out about this. But, Ms. Farida uses the same old cliches, even speaking in the past tense; in Islam, she says, “women had many rights”. Stricter application of Islam is unlikely to result in greater rights for Muslim women, and can only lead to disaster for non-Muslim women.
gravenimage says
Yes, Karen–even women in Dar-al-Islam fighting against the savagery of Islam so often have to pretend that this is un-Islamic, so they are, of course, always at a disadvantage.
David says
Valentine cards are not a large commodity in the hellhole ME.
gravenimage says
David, in many parts of the Islamic world–like Saudi Arabia–Valentine’s Day is banned. We can certainly see why…
LeftiisruiningCanada says
HARAM HARAM, NAM! NEGES!
Save Europe says
Even more so in non Arab Pakistan.
Alice says
My question is, What woman/girl/female in her right mind would want to marry HIM?
gravenimage says
No one. That’s why he has to find some Muslim to force his daughter to marry him where she is a frightened girl and can’t say no.
Cheer Bear Girl says
They don’t want girls to be educated and mature enough to decide for themselves what they want. It is very sick.
Jack Holan says
Azhar Indus would never be able to handle a real woman and that’s why he had to delve into perverted legalized child molestation and rape. Look at his picture. He could easily pass for s poster boy!
StellaSaidSo says
Saudi investment in Malaysia has certainly paid off. The hardliners have increased their power, especially during the last decade. Same trend happening in Indonesia. Australia should be very concerned about the latter in particular, but seems largely oblivious, still giving generous foreign aid etc. Moronic Malcolm and his team of appeasers, rushing headlong down the same path as Europe but expecting a different outcome.
Don Rugdee says
He sounds like a nut, bolts and screws under 15 unholy imam.
Prabh108 says
I do not regard this “humanoid’ as a true member of the many and varied races of Man.
LeftisruiningCanada says
It’s just the islam. If we could take that out of his brain, he would not longer behave like a demon.
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As of December 28, 2017 and after 4:00 PM, I have not been receiving my “Jihad Watch” emails. The emails could not be found in my SPAM folder in my Webmail account. I checked the settings in my “Jihad Watch” account and everything seems normal. I would like to continue receiving the email. Have other people been experiencing the same problems. Could you please check into it for me.
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can you message me using the contact button on the sidebar here, I don’t see the email you just used was ever signed up for the daily digest, the most common reason people stop receiving them is having forwarded them to someone, who then clicks the unsubscribe button.