McMaster says about the President retweeting videos of Muslims being violent: “Well, President Trump is the best judge of why he did that. But I know it was his intention to highlight the importance of creating safe and secure environments for our citizens — to make sure that we have the right laws in place, enforcement mechanisms in place, to ensure that, at this critical time, when ISIS is being defeated in the Middle East, that there is no return of terrorists and extremists who can pose a risk to the American people, or to our allies and partners.”
Fair enough. So far, so good. But then Chris Wallace says: “The woman whose tweets that he sent out has been convicted of hate crimes.”
Taking the British government’s actions as any authority without noticing its longstanding pattern of welcoming jihad preachers while hounding and persecuting foes of jihad terror is, at best, irresponsible journalism.
Wallace adds: “But his tweets were all about anti-Muslim — about Muslim violence, he was making it.” That he would buy into the establishment narrative that opposing jihad terror is “anti-Muslim” betrays a massive confusion on his part.
McMaster then says: “Well, those who adhere — those who adhere to this ideology are really irreligious criminals who use a perverted — what the president has called, a wicked interpretation of religion in an effort to — you know, to recruit young, impressionable people to their cause, to foment hatred, and use that hatred to perpetuate violence.”
Note that to say that the Islamic State adheres to a “perverted” interpretation of Islam is not at all the same thing as saying that it holds to a “wicked” interpretation of Islam.
In any case, McMaster does not specify how the Islamic State’s understanding of Islam is “perverted.” Nor can he. This is yet more Obamoid wishful thinking. Trump, who campaigned on the strong implication that he would allow for a more realistic view of what we’re up against than Obama did, should not tolerate it in his White House. Fire McMaster!
“H.R. McMaster talks North Korea threat, Michael Flynn deal,” Fox News, December 3, 2017:
WALLACE: The president retweeted videos this week from a fringe anti-Muslim group called Britain First that purported to show Muslims, in some cases, inaccurately, Muslim immigrants committing acts of violence.
British Prime Minister May spoke out against the president, sending these tweets. Here’s what she had to say.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
THERESA MAY, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: The fact that we work together does not mean that we’re afraid to say that when we think the United States had got it wrong, and to be very clear with them. And I’m very clear that retweeting from Britain First was the wrong thing to do.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WALLACE: General, why did President Trump send out those videos?
MCMASTER: Well, President Trump is the best judge of why he did that. But I know it was his intention to highlight the importance of creating safe and secure environments for our citizens — to make sure that we have the right laws in place, enforcement mechanisms in place, to ensure that, at this critical time, when ISIS is being defeated in the Middle East, that there is no return of terrorists and extremists who can pose a risk to the American people, or to our allies and partners.
WALLACE: But you know that, for instance, in the case of the Dutch video, it was not an immigrant that was involved. Britain First is a fringe, anti-Muslim group. The woman whose tweets that he sent out has been convicted of hate crimes.
Why is that useful for the president of the United States?
MCMASTER: Well, I mean, the key thing is, as you highlight the real risks that these terrorists pose to our citizens, that we make sure that we never buy into or reinforce the terrorist narrative — you know, this false narrative that this is a war of religion.
I mean, this is really a conflict that involves —
(CROSSTALK)
WALLACE: But his tweets were all about anti-Muslim — about Muslim violence, he was making it.
MCMASTER: Well, those who adhere — those who adhere to this ideology are really irreligious criminals who use a perverted — what the president has called, a wicked interpretation of religion in an effort to — you know, to recruit young, impressionable people to their cause, to foment hatred, and use that hatred to perpetuate violence.
And so, what we have to do is break that cycle of ignorance, hatred, violence at all points, and we’re defeating Daesh in its so-called caliphate, 95 —
WALLACE: ISIS.
MCMASTER: Or ISIS. Ninety-five percent of the territory that they have controlled has been taken back, and none of it has been regained by them.
But the other two things the president said we have to be able to do is cut off their financing, and to defeat their wicked ideology. And we’re working with allies and partners across the world, and especially in Muslim-majority countries, to do — to do this in really unprecedented ways….
jihad3tracker says
IS MCMASTER WORRIED ABOUT A MASSIVE WAVE OF U.S. VIOLENCE IF A PROMINENT ADMINSTRATION OFFICIAL TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM ?
The way he hunts clumsily for the “right” terminology and weasel-words in this conversation sure makes me think so.
U.K. politicians and “leaders” are obviously utterly petrified regarding immense mobs of Muslims if anyone in power dares to offend them — so we are on that slide to defeat as well ?
jihad3tracker says
McMaster: “. . . this false narrative that this is a war of religion.” PRICELESS DHIMMITUDE ! ! !
Sons of Liberty says
It’s ONLY BEEN GOING ON FOR AMOST 1400 YEARS ! Lt. General McMaster READ SOME HISTORY , this is a WAR against anyone or any country that DOES NOT ACCEPT THEIR SUPREMACIST IDEOLOGY ! I simply can’t believe the ignorance in most people in our government ! President Trump knows the threat as evidenced by his PULLING OUT OF THE UN Refugee Agreement . He knows our Constitution DOES NOT ALLOW any foreign entity to DECIDE WHO IMMIGRATES TO OUR COUNTRY.
John Forbes says
GET RID OF THIS GUY! HE IS UTTERLY POISONOUS!
ISIS IS FOLLOWING TO THE LETTER THE LIFE OF MOHAMMED!
AS IS BOKO HARAM & THEY SAY SO!
THE WESTERN LEADERS ARE TOLD THESE THINGS CONSTANTLY & THERE IS CONSTANT DISTURBING DENIAL!
LIKE THE BISHOP IN MANCHESTER – STATING THAT AFTER THE MANCHESTER – ARIA GRANDE BOMBING- WE MAY NEVER KNOW!
MUSLIMS PRINT & SCREAM THE REASONS & PASS OUT LEAFLETS & YET WE MAY NEVER KNOW?????? THEY HATE US BECAUSE WE ARE NOT MUSLIMS!
J D S says
MCMaster needs to go…should have been gone
kabooooooooooooooooooooom says
I’ve given McMaster the benefit of the doubt since Trump’s inauguration. Why is he still in his current role? His rhetoric is classic Barry Soetoro (aka BH Obama) era propaganda.
Hacksaw says
McMasters is a typical modern US/European military leader, completely and utterly clueless on who the enemy is and why he believes what he does. Mr. Spencer can tell you first hand when he spoke to my students at Asymmetric Warfare Group several years ago about the lack of understanding of our enemies motives and the willful ignorance by and large on the part of the military establishment. Outside of the special operations world, understanding the enemy is not even a consideration much less a priority.
Gordon Miller says
Absolutely correct. For that reason he should never have been appointed to a position where he is so close to the President’s ear. The remedy now is to fire him.
J D S says
I wish our government and military leaders would come to the understanding that WE ARE at war…Europe has caved.
We can expect no help there. Canada, Mexico, the UN……forget it.
We are on our own against Islam. Maybe I should say Trump is on his own at least as world leaders go.
The problem is there are just not enough of the American
People who are well informed about the goals of Islam to help. People like Robert Spencer and a few others are trying to inform us but they sure have a hard row to hoe.
Gordon Miller says
McMaster, smart as he is, might prove to be a disaster for us because of his mindset that Islam is a religion of peace and that our war in the Middle East has nothing to do with religion.
The safest thing for Trump to do would be to replace him now.
underbed cat says
I am not so confident of Mc Master either, but even less of the interviewer, Wallace, has he ever read the quran, just curious. How much is he limited by networks influenced to protect a warfare doctrine? The Quran is the book studied to learn sharia, along with haddiths and the sunnah .
These books demand allowance of deception with words. So I wonder does the word irreligious by McMaster’s mean sharia a legal system of a totalitarian ideology of warfare,…since Islam is named as a religion for a cover. ….and the five prayers a day to slay infidels ? I guess it would be better stated Islam, but just like Europe we have a substantial problem in the U.S. it ..erupts and gets denied. But the policy making has to have an informed public since we need to in my opinion grasp sharia/ Islam prohibit it from being taught to live by and promoted in schools or anywhere…along with the space that building of mosques spread for our demise. MB organizations need to be closed and removed from government.
underbed cat says
“irreligious crimminals” are adherent and crimminals might be the clue word I missed.
Michael Copeland says
Special Interpretation Guide for McMaster
“Kill” means kill
“Cut off” means cut off
“Stone” means stone
“What your right hands possess” means slaves
There: that should not be too difficult, should it?
mortimer says
Thanks, Mike, for the primary school Islamic glossary for McMaster.
McMaster opines, surmises, hypothesizes, theorizes, assumes, conjectures, dares to venture, imagines, speculates, guesses, suspects, supposes, concludes, deduces judges, reckons, expects and deems that ‘Islam is peace’. He doesn’t wish anyone to tell him is WRONG.
Do not confuse McMaster with the FACTS ABOUT THE ‘ESSENTIAL’, CANONICAL JIHAD DOCTRINE of Islam
By peddling this obvious foolish talk, McMaster makes his team look stupid.
underbed cat says
Yes you are right. The propaganda is thick to defend, and well funded by SA and the left., some by ignorance some by fear of sharia penalties
Custos Custodum says
McMaster is launching a trial balloon for the introduction of “safe spaces” which itself is a code word for OFFICIAL CENSORSHIP of all “hate speech” not approved by agents of the Muslim/Totalitarian alliance.
cezanne says
time to send out the extermination squads! yes muslims fill the streets with riots so that our white forces can cut you down!!
Naildriver says
Indeed! Fire McMaster.
Evil knows no allegiances to good, or even the rational or logical. The venal have no interest in the good but only that which facilitates their ends. Is Trump hopelessly venal?
It would be helpful if we could marshal our sizable corrupt government, racist white/ black, and festering millions steeped in resentment, propaganda and petty lives, owing to their own bad choices and against the evil of Islam. But there is no real difference between them in this present quagmire — evil is evil.
Focus and consolidate the good alone against this enemy, and that is codified our constitution. That law is our only hope.
To do what is necessary to stop this enemy Islam may well be in the hands of a very few indeed. If not the president then the SCOTUS, or even more unlikely congress — it is certainly beyond the voters at this point. And, this current war and it is one whether one tries to redefine it as ‘terrorism’ may require a well armed militia headed by ruthless individuals. If it comes to that the out come is grim.
Those equivocators who wring their hands saying , ‘but if we resort to violence against Islam then we’ll be no better — well, you’d better wake up then! Remember, it was a bloody ordeal to free ourselves from a much more enlightened enemy: the British.
I for one would like to see a gradual resistance where stages are clearly defined — such as barring Muslims entry, and then, marginalizing Islam’s capacity with specific laws: restricting Muslims participation in government, armed forces, and teaching in public schools. And prohibitions upon Islamic purchase of influence in universities, corporations of national security and government officials.
Islam, should be openly and widely declared this nations enemy– or for the hand wringers incompatible with our law and culture, much as communism or fascism was openly reviled. Individuals as Spencer should be spared that dangerous obligation. Uphold your obligation and pledge of allegiance to the Constitution if you are elected and protect the Constitution and its people from this enemy, Islam.
Troybeam says
McMaster needs to go, he’s been brainwashed by CAIR and other Islamic groups.
mortimer says
With such foolishness, McMaster forces intelligent, informed, Islamo-studious people to question whether he has enough brain to do his job.
JawsV says
McMoron the Meathead.
Custos Custodum says
McMaster is doing a very capable job of slyly, slowly subverting the Constitutional order while pretending undying loyalty to President Trump.
Flag officers are swamp creatures by definition.
Joe says
You can’t wash something you don’t have. McMaster has shown the highest levels of incompetence his whole life. For example, his military record is clearly pathetic. He should be seen as a moron or less.
mortimer says
Preposterous! How does McMaster presume to teach us Sharia law.
Is McMaster an ayatollah? A mufti? A grand imam? A doctor of Sharia law?
I doubt McMaster knows the names of the Islamic primary source texts, let alone what is in them. I doubt very much that McMaster has read the history of the caliphates, or he would not make such stupendously erroneous comments about jihad. The following totally demolishes McMaster’s presumptuous, uninformed opinions.
“Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the UTMOST IMPORTANCE in Islam and is ONE OF ITS PILLARS. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah’s Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an OBLIGATORY DUTY in Islam ON EVERY MUSLIMS. He who tries to escape from this duty, or DOES NOT FULFILL HIS DUTY, dies as a hypocrite.” – footnotes on p.39, ‘The Noble Koran’, published by King Fahd Complex for Publication of the Quran, Madinah, KSA.
JIHADISM (the doctrine that jihad is the most important action of Muslims) is FUNDAMENTAL, CANONICAL, ‘ESSENTIAL’ Islam, rather than an aberration.
Legal Definition of Jihad from the ‘Reliance of the Traveller’ (book of Sharia law)
– “Jihad is a communal obligation,” meaning upon the Muslims each year. [Reliance of the Traveller, Book O9.1]
Jihad is something Muslims must do against non-Muslims every year. Exactly what is it?
– Chapter O9.0: Jihad : (O: Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion.
– O9.8: The Objectives of Jihad : The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians…
– O9.9 : The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim (O: because they are not a people with a Book …
Custos Custodum says
Thank you for compiling these damning quotes.
For the uninitiated, it bears repeating (and re-repeating) that sura 9 is the LAST major sura “revealed” to Muhammad, in other words, Mo’s FINAL word on the matter of war and peace (or rather, war and more war).
This has been the ideological DNA of Islam since the days of Mo down to the present.
mortimer says
CC, 9.5 is the verse of the sword, but 9.29 is the verse of EXTORTION. I believe that the two verses are the MOST IMPORTANT VERSES in the Koran that explain everything we need to know about this EXTORTION CULT.
Custos Custodum says
Thanks, Mortimer – made a note of both.
Your careful elaboration is always appreciated.
mortimer says
Primer on the Obligation of Jihad for McMaster from Islam’s Primary Sources:
Allah commands jihad in the Koran; Allah knows best
Qur’an 2:216 “Jihad (holy fighting in Allah’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims), though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not.”
Those who do not commit jihad are “hypocrites”
Qur’an 4:95 “Not equal are those believers who sit at home and receive no injurious hurt, and those who strive hard, fighting Jihad in Allah’s Cause with their wealth and lives. Allah has granted a RANK HIGHER to those who strive hard, FIGHTING JIHAD with their wealth and bodies to those who sit. Allah prefers Jihadists who strive hard and fight above those who sit at home. He has distinguished his fighters with a HUGE REWARD.”
Jihad brings the greatest “reward” from Allah, thus it is the highest deed in Islam.
Bukhari:V4B52N44 “A man came to Allah’s Apostle and said, ‘Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad in reward.’ He replied, ‘I do not find such a deed.'”
Bukhari:V1B2N25 “Allah’s Apostle was asked, ‘What is the BEST DEED?’ He replied, ‘To believe in Allah and His Apostle Muhammad.’ The questioner then asked, ‘What is the next best in goodness?’ He replied, ‘To PARTICIPATE IN JIHAD, RELIGIOUS FIGHTING in Allah’s Cause.'”
Jihadists are the “real” Muslims
Qur’an 33:22 “Among the Believers are men who have been TRUE to their covenant with Allah and have gone out for JIHAD (holy fighting). Some have completed their vow to the EXTREM and have been MARTYRED FIGHTING AND DYING in His Cause, and some are waiting, PREPARED FOR DEATH in battle.”
Someone, put this in McMaster’s hand.
jihad3tracker says
THANK YOU, MORTIMER — For your typically solid, factual, ironclad, comprehensive refutation of the utter idiocy McMaster emitted. I will mail it to Santa, and he can put in the White House Christmas stocking.
Jim says
McMaster, you are either an idiot or a deceiver. ISIS and the other Islamic terrorists are doing exactly what the Koran tells them to do. There is no need for interpretation of the Koran and hadiths. They are quite clear and in your face. Only an idiot could overlook it. It is disturbing that such an idiot could reach high office. I guess cream isn’t the only thing which rises to the top.
I wonder about leftists says
It must be very tiresome and not good for your psyche to live beside the truth all the time and find /write a lying comment on the truth. You must wreck your brain over and over again how to think up a plausible
comment (for the leftists and your Islamic friends), and trying to fool us, over and over again, and thinking we will buy it MCMaster and your other loyal friends? Loyal to whom?
gravenimage says
Yes–lying all the time does no good to one’s psyche.
It also does no good to the people being lied to.
Peter says
No, McMaster, the religion is perverted; their interpretation of it is correct.
Tjhawk says
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mortimer says
Thanks, Peter. That’s concise: the religion is perverted; their interpretation of it is correct.
M says
“Religion”…. I’d say it’s a cult….but yeah.
overman says
Peter, great insight and basically common-sense – which mcmaster and his ilk can’t understand.
Xero_G says
Perfectly stated!
JF says
Yes Robert! You are absolutely right! But how can we convince this President that McM has got to go? What can everyday citizens like myself do except wring my hands?
Tjhawk says
The line of B.S. that McMaster is laying down is simply the line that anyone in his field needed to lay down in order to advance the career, or even preserve it. This was the case for the Obama years or even the Dubya years. Maybe longer. It’s so depressing to see swamp creatures like McMaster, Mueller, etc maintaining their influence.
The best way to drive a creature to extinction is to destroy it’s ecosystem. The islam/ globalist/ post modernist alliance is a major part of this ecosystem.
How do we break the daisy chain of the jihadis, politicians, corporations, and academia??
Free speech will be vital. I hope we can maintain it in the USA. It’s already gone in a lot of places.
Terry Gain says
Right. The same perverted interpretation as practised by Mohammed. Having McMaster as NSA is gross incompetence.
mortimer says
Professional incompetence. Malpractice. Divorce from reality.
President al Sisi of Egypt admitted that the jihad threat doctrine needs to be reformed. He said Muslims had to stop threatening the world. He told the imams at Al Azhar to look for a way out. They have still not done so two years later.
Does al Sisi not know a HELL OF A LOT MORE about Islam than McMaster? Of course, he does.
McMaster’s comments are so off-base they are not FUNNY!
Manny says
Obviously McMaster is another one of those useful idiots who are going to lead us to ruin.
mortimer says
Denial of the CANONICAL, ESSENTIAL JIHAD DOCTRINE is not the solution.
Rosewood11 says
Dear Mr. McMaster:
We can worry about what (per)version of islam jihadis practice AFTER their DEAD or DEPORTED!!!
Ciudadano says
But even liberals accept that ISIS “perverted” Islam is the same one practicized in Saudi Arabia and spread all over the world by that country.
ISIS punishes apostasy and blasphemy with dead sentence, just like another thirteen Muslim-majority countries do. https://www.indy100.com/article/the-countries-where-apostasy-is-punishable-by-death–Z110j2Uwxb
ISIS forbids other religions to be practiced openly just like Saudi Arabia and other islamic countries do.
ISIS’s “perverted” islam distinguishes itself for applying sharia regurously.
Westman says
The real enemy of freedom here is Mike Wallace who is perpetuating the leftist Islam-ideology-ignorant narrative and continuing the, “get Trump”, effort of the seditious media. He is completely aware that the aggressors shown in the tweets are bad Muslim apples, whether immigrant or home-grown.
Yet, by not understanding why it makes no difference he highlights that both he and McMaster are ignorant of the ideologies of Islam and have been compromised and taken in by its representatives. They behave as operatives for the greatest enemy of freedom.
This is a corruption-enabling feature of politicians, celebrities, and the media, right out of Orwell’s 1984 – image is (their) reality.
Sooner or later the image is replaced by reality, like Brian Ross’ suspension, the sexual harrassment deluge in Hollyweird, or the decline of the NFL.
The day will come when Wallace realizes that he has been sowing seeds to destroy his own country; hopefully, before its too late. We are walking in the footsteps of Rome while our Left is reading a script of ignorance instead of history.
eduardo odraude says
Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law, who otherwise seems impressive, recently in an interview also referred to “extremism” as a “perversion” of “what the religion has always been”
See starting at the 56 min. mark this video: https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.826542
One hopes Kushner knows that Islam in fact is extreme and that he is only calling extremism a perversion of Islam because he and the Trump administration are trying to get Arab Muslim states to enforce a “moderate” interpretation of Islam, the US goal being to make possible a peace deal between the “Palestinians” and Israel. Kushner is part of, or the leader of, the team trying to broker a peace deal.
gravenimage says
No reason to think that Kushner is not as clueless as are most Americans about this. In fact, was concerning as it is, I think that clueless is better than lying.
PRCS says
Both misinform the audience.
Voytek Gagalka says
“McMaster Strikes Again.” That he still holds his position is the biggest indicator not only how confused he is but also how anti-ideological and unprincipled President Trump is, too. One day: very good move; another – step in the goo! Just make an effort and read what is in the Qur’an for a change! Yes, it is difficult to read (follow the story among the wild forest of sudden jumps, confusions and contradictions, frequent repeats, etc.) And then you will understand that there is nothing that ISIS at al. “perverted” from its “message”: because perversion is in its CORE!
PRCS says
I don’t believe he’s confused.
Rather, he’s toeing the party line to those many confused among us.
POTUS still thinks–or says–the problem is “radical Islamic terrorism”. I’ve never heard anyone challenge him on that in public.
overman says
“Fair enough. So far, so good. But then Chris Wallace says: “The woman whose tweets that he sent out has been convicted of hate crimes.”
lf he’s referring to jayda frandsen of Britain First, l’m pretty sure that’s a false conviction. lf you watch the video about this incident you’ll see where the hate emanates from. Anyone [as Robert and others well know] criticizing the lslamic threat and wanting to retain it’s nationhood within a civilized culture – rather than sharia, is automatically labeled ‘a racist hate-monger’. Because jayda frandsen took a cross into a muslim neighborhood, and got verbally abused, she’s the one being convicted of harrassment – the law in Britain is truly an ass.
She says about the video below – ‘For this speech I was arrested in London, transported by van & boat for 14hrs to Belfast, charged & face 2yrs in jail’
Hector Archytas says
She just use Mohamedanism instead Islam and claimed we are all submitted to god and so muslim and she can do teh same speech without risking a conviction. She should use the same technic of her adversary. Used word that we can define ourselves.
mortimer says
Jayda has admirable courage. Her speech is correct in claiming that all Muslims are called to participate in jihad.
gravenimage says
Jayda Franse has just been arrested for practicing peaceful freedom of speech:
“Jayda Fransen: Deputy leader of far-right group Britain First arrested over speech in Belfast”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/britain-first-arrested-far-right-extremism-jayda-fransen-speech-belfast-northern-ireland-a8063206.html
This is nothing but harassment. She has committed no crimes.
LeftisruiningCanada says
““The woman whose tweets that he sent out has been convicted of hate crimes.””
Nothing but shameful lying by omission and poisoning the well.
I hope Jayda will be OK.
What they are doing to her is probably going to be even worse than what they did to T Robinson.
Custos Custodum says
Coming from a journalist who daily avails himself of the airwaves courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer, this simple statement is unforgivable.
In the U.S., we still do not recognize anything as a “hate crime” unless a statement poses at least an immediate and serious risk of physical harm to another person.
However ignorant Wallace may be of Constitutional principles and general U.S. law, this basic principle will have been drilled into him throughout his training and career as a “journalist.” He cannot plead ignorance.
Wallace is a sniveling sell-out.
Guy Forester says
Actually, Islam is at war with the rest of the world, not the other way around. If we really were at war with them with even half the effort put against Germany and Japan in WW2, the war would be over by now.
Currently, we fight back with both hands tied behind our backs and with leg shackles on. Ridiculous ROE, treating terror attacks and terrorists as unrelated criminal actions,, refusal to name the state sponsors of terrorism , and refusal to hold the state sponsors of terrorism responsible for these actions all leave us vulnerable to these attacks. We get in an occasional head butt, but that can work only so many times.
Wellington says
The GPG, as I like to call it, continues, GPG standing for Great Pretend Game. But pretending Islam is peaceful is simply not in accord with the facts and yet the GPG remains in full vigor with people like McMaster and Wallace. This is both dangerous and pathetic.
PRCS says
Not sure about Wallace. Most likely just ignorant about Islam, I suspect.
McMaster, on the other hand, can’t be that stupid, IMO. I do believe he’s merely toeing the party line.
Wouldn’t want to offend our “allies”.
mortimer says
Substantially agree with Wellington’s ‘GPG’ comment. I place the ‘pretend game’ in the context of whatever the Saudis claim about Islam and force the Washington establishment to mimic.
Recently, Crown Prince Mohammed said: “We are SIMPLY REVERTING to what we followed – a moderate Islam open to the world and all religions. 70% of the Saudis are younger than 30, honestly we won’t waste 30 years of our life combating extremist thoughts, we will destroy them now and immediately.”
This is surely a pretend game on his part and surely he knows it. I predict that the Islamic radicals will end up ‘destroying’ the Crown Prince, rather than the reverse.
Islam ‘simply’ cannot be reformed. Islam can only be abandoned as unreformable.
The pretend game has to stop.
Wellington says
“The pretend game has to stop.”
Yep, most assuredly it does, mortimer, as I know you know and as you know I know. But many still don’t know (examples being, and there are a plethora of such people, Theresa May, Angela Merkel, Justin Trudeau, Bush 43, as well the current pontifex maximus, all being merely a “sampling” here).
As for Obama, my quandary with him, first and foremost, is whether he “merely” remains willfully ignorant of Islam as does, say, Bush 43, or if he is actually and knowingly complicit with Islam’s many nefarious dictates that constitute a major assault upon liberty.
Well, whichever, this monumental doofus of a man, this abomination of a POTUS, whether knowingly or not knowingly aware of the malevolence which is Islam, has still had essentially the same effect, tending very much to prove that exculpation of evil out of ignorance, as opposed to consciously supporting evil with full knowledge of it, leads, so many times, to the same result.
Always good to read your posts here at JW, mortimer. Yep, always. Take care—-and keep posting.
Wellington says
I get your point, PRCS, about ignorance (closely aligned with stupidity as your own post indicated re Wallace) versus some kind of complicity re McMaster, but I would argue that both are merely variations, subsets if you will, of the GPG I mentioned.
PRCS says
Agree with that!
gravenimage says
And this, in may cases, is not just innocent ignorance, but *willful* ignorance, where they simply do not want to know, and will go to great lengths to avoid learning anything negative about Islam–or letting anyone else learn anything.
PRCS says
Hard to pin Wallace down, GI. I do believe he’s just ignorant about Islam; actually, truly ignorant. That does, of course, contribute to the GPG.
John W says
The thing that bugs me most about this all the time is that the focus is always on ISIS and their view of Islam. What about the view of Islam supported by so many that may not include murder but does support Sharia and all the other “wonderful” things it brings.
Michael Copeland says
The uncomfortable reality is that the views of muslims are not part of the picture. They are not considered, and are of no effect:
“: It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision:”
Koran 33:36, part of Islamic law
PRCS says
Every Muslim supports–and complies with–the Sharia (read: Islamic law) to some degree. Some to a greater degree than others.
Praying five times a day and wiping one’s butt with the left hand are as much a part of the Shariah as the punitive amputation of a human being’s hand and foot on opposite sides.
gravenimage says
Yes–ISIS is only one head of the hydra.
All pious Muslims have the same ideas.
Charles says
I don’t know how McMaster identifies or examines a written ideology. I measure an ideological threat by its doctrinal imperatives and exhortations:
Bukhari, volume 9, #57, Narrated Ikrima, “Some atheists were brought to Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s messenger forbade it, saying, “Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).” I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Messenger, “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.”
If an ideology empowers its authorities to imprison and publicly flog or execute people who believe as I do, then I see any true believer of that ideology as an existential threat, and an enemy. I have no such reciprocal ideology other than natural biological, and justifiable self-defense. The fundamental Theological ideology of Islam is at the heart of the conflict. I admire and love middle eastern people and their ancient histories, from the Nabateans to the Assyrians to the Persians to the Phoenicians and beyond. But I cannot endure the pall and threat of immutable belligerence, and exalted examples of Damascus Steel Sword beheadings against people of my mind…on the pretext of our disbelief.
jdf007 says
Hold the phone: They’re not religious, but they do religion? Is this guy suffering from dementia? Just even ignoring the facts.
gfmucci says
McMaster is really an ignorant clown who uses a perverted form of “intelligence” to corrupt foreign policy.
mortimer says
Even the President of Egypt is not pretending that Islam is peaceful. He is trying to reform it. He asked Al Azhar University to stop threatening the world.
Mr. McMaster, did you hear President al Sisi’s speech or do you know more than him about Islam?
gravenimage says
All al-Sisi is trying to get Al Azhar to do is to convince Muslims that attacking the Egyptian government is “un-Islamic”.
livingengine says
Oh, McMaster! You’ve done it again!
JawsV says
He’s not McMaster he’s McMoron.
gravenimage says
McMaster: Jihadis are “really irreligious criminals who use a perverted…interpretation of religion”
…………………….
Another dhimmi tool pretending that Jihad terror in the name of Islam is “un-Islamic”.
JawsV says
IOW, he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, like W after 9/11.
PRCS says
W apparently didn’t know he’d been duped.
Custos Custodum says
McMoron is really just an illiterate criminal who uses a perverted…interpretation of religion to shovel taqiyya over the public airwaves and to do his masters’ bidding.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
These swamp people have a right to their misinformed opinions but they should not be in the administration that the people voted in.
Another example:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/04/former-fbi-official-halting-immigration-is-not-who-we-are-americans-must-adjust-to-terrorism/
Lydia says
If they actually WOULD be using a perverted version of their religion, then they would be doing good instead of bad!
Norger says
When are our political leaders going to learn that it is not their place to characterize orthodox Islamic theology as “perverted,” “wicked” or somehow not “true Islam.” Perhaps McMaster (or Wallace) can explain to us how “perverted,” terrorist, ISIS Islam differs from Saudi Islam.
mummymovie says
For crying out loud-
Can’t DJT axe this guy already!?!?
What betrayal of our future generations!
Shame on this shameless dhimwit!
Shame!
Warren Raymond says
McMaster = Obamunist.
Out with the trash!
Debi Brand says
“Trump, who campaigned on the strong implication that he would allow for a more realistic view of what we’re up against than Obama did, should not tolerate it in his White House. Fire McMaster!”
Absolutely.
With respect to the Islam IS lives by: again, and again, and again,McMaster lies to the American people; yet again, and again, and again, he is, by Trump, given opportunity to do the same again, and again, and again.
Irrespective of calls now, and before, to “Fire McMaster!”
Cheer Bear Girl says
McMaster is a delusional moron who has never picked up a Quran.
KmP says
McMaster needs to read this infographic. It contains all the evidence he or anyone else needs to show a connection between Islam and terrorism.
“Blueprint for Terrorism: How Muhammad’s Example is Used to Justify Violence”
https://scienceetcetera.blogspot.com/2017/11/blog-post.html#links
Tom says
According to many scholars in Islam only a Muslim can say what is or isn’t the correct interpretation of the Koran etc, and even amongst the most devout experts there is a very strong contingent that adheres to a similar interpretation of Islam as that of ISIS.
Advice McMaster is getting may be from those who’s interpretation is benign or they may be misleading him deliberately, as muslims have been known to do many times previously, by using Takkiya.
Or is it his own interpretation of Islam that he is projecting to all, muslim and non muslim alike.
Carolyne says
In fact, Muslims who do not believe in/commit violent Jihad are the ones who have perverted Islam.
Dustin Koellhoffer says
McMasters is too ignorant to be in the Trump administration.
Debi Brand says
“McMasters is too ignorant to be in the Trump administration.”
And who gave him [ McMaster] his present job?
patriotliz says
Terrorists haven’t perverted the “religion” of Islam….Islam has perverted “religion.”
Xero_G says
Since when is following to-the-letter, the instructions in the “most perfect book for all humanity for all time” considered as PERVERTING it?
UNCLE VLADDI says
Re: “That he would buy into the establishment narrative that opposing jihad terror is “anti-Muslim” betrays a massive confusion on his part.”
NO. It shows he has a sub-conscious ability to see the real hidden implications:
without “muslims” there is no “jihad!” And without “jihad,” no “islam” or “muslims!”
CAPISCE?