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Pakistan: Muslims forcing Sikhs to convert to Islam

Dec 16, 2017 5:14 pm By Robert Spencer

The  Qur’an famously says that “there is no compulsion in religion,” (2:256), but what constitutes “compulsion” is in the eye of the beholder. The institutionalized subjugation of the dhimma, with its regular humiliation and harassment, from which one can be freed for the simple price of converting to Islam, is not considered compulsion. Remember Steve Centanni and Olaf Wiig, the journalists who were kidnapped and forced to convert to Islam — even though their conversions were obviously coerced, their captors made them say that they were converting freely, and the captors probably believed that themselves. After all, the journos could have chosen to be killed instead.

“Sikh community in Hangu ‘being forced to convert,'” by Umer Farooq, Express Tribune, December 16, 2017 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

PESHAWAR: The Sikh community raised on Friday serious concerns after ‘being forced to convert to Islam’ by a government official in Hangu district of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa (K-P).

Lodging a complaint with Deputy Commissioner Hangu Shahid Mehmood, the community members claimed Assistant Commissioner Tehsil Tall Yaqoob Khan was allegedly forcing Sikhs to convert to Islam.

District Nazim Hangu for minority Farid Chand Singh, who filed the complaint, said the community members have been living in the area since 1901 and were never offended by anyone, specifically for religious believes rather lived all their lives peacefully with Muslims.

Singh stated that despite having been a hotbed for sectarian conflicts, residents of Hangu district never harmed them, were never approached by someone to convert to Islam, adding they have friendly relations with Muslims who have always stood up for the community when in need.

“Had it been from someone ordinary, it would have never been felt so offending but when you hear such things from a government official, it becomes something really serious,” Singh told The Express Tribune.

“We the residents of Doaba area are being tortured religiously,” read the complaint.

“The Constitution empowers us to defend our religious beliefs against anyone and we want you to call AC Tall Yaqoob Khan and inquire the issue,” the complaint read, adding that the issues should be investigated so that the community could live in Pakistan with ‘love, peace and harmony’….

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  1. Linda says

    Dec 16, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    Why should Muslims have religious freedom in the free world when they are not willing to allow anyone else, (those they call “infidels”), they come in contact with to have religious freedom?

    • Peterson says

      Dec 16, 2017 at 6:11 pm

      Pakistan and Bangladesh was part of India. They separated from India because they wanted a Muslim state for them. After the break up both countries choked their non muslim population and there were various kinds of persecutions they had to undergo. Today their numbers are a few percent. In India they left behind some Muslims. They grew up exponentially when other communities practiced family planning.You know that when in a family there are five to ten children what will be their education and other living standards. These children were forced to work to support their large families and received no education.That is just to say their way of life. But today population of Muslims in many parts of India are again in majority and they may again ask to split India on religious lines. This is exactly what will happen in western countries. Those Islamic migrants that you are bringing today are your time bombs. They will not let your children live in peace and todays modern cities will become Bosnia and then become Somalia.

      • Linda says

        Dec 16, 2017 at 8:07 pm

        We have created a lot of trouble for ourselves for years and years to come by inviting them in.

        • Steve says

          Dec 17, 2017 at 7:31 am

          Well said Linda. I reckon it might well come to a civil war. I hope not but thanks to Obama (his father and step father were Muslims you know) Never back down from Muslim threats or die knowing you lost your freedom. ps Did you know that Muslim men can “marry” non Muslim women to spread Islam but Muslim women CANNOT marry non Muslim men? The non Muslim men must convert to Islam. Nasty? Heck Yes.

      • CRUSADER says

        Dec 17, 2017 at 4:27 am

        Time-Bombs.

        Indeed!

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 16, 2017 at 9:46 pm

      Linda wrote:

      Why should Muslims have religious freedom in the free world when they are not willing to allow anyone else, (those they call “infidels”), they come in contact with to have religious freedom?
      ……………………

      Because–as Muslims see it, Linda–they are the “best of peoples”, and we are nothing but “filthy Infidels”.

      • Linda says

        Dec 17, 2017 at 1:13 am

        That’s their version of things. We should be smart enough not to allow such a supremacist ideology to dictate how we behave. We should tell them, “You don’t see other human beings as your equals, so you can’t come here. Period. End of story.”

        These are people who don’t even have the concept of “The Golden Rule” in their “religion”. We don’t need trouble like that.

        • Jonathan says

          Dec 17, 2017 at 2:07 am

          Then we admire the courage and stamina of Hungary, Poland and the Baltic states. Japan refuses to admit Muslims period. No work visa’s; nada!
          Churchil, Thomas Aquinas, Thomas Jefferson, and other notables have warned the Western World of the allowance of the people who claim fealty to Allah into their own country would eventually lead to their governmental, cultural and theological worlds to perish. No subtle warnings either. Check their personal opinion on the matter. All one has to do is refer to the Caliphate domination and encroachment of their armies into Western Europe …. check out the Battle of Lepanto; also known as ‘The Gates of Vienna’.

        • dennis says

          Dec 17, 2017 at 5:09 am

          it is our leaders who have misguided us. why and how much?, it should be asked. but I bet it has to do with petroleum and the stocks held by senators and higher ups which have to do with it. their love of country has to do with personal interest – democrats and republicans alike. their country is their bank accounts!

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 17, 2017 at 8:07 pm

          Agreed, Linda.

      • Steve says

        Dec 17, 2017 at 7:34 am

        gravenimage – Did you know that there are NO churches, Buddhist or Hindu temples in Muslim Saudi Arabia? No? That is a fact. Not talking about private gatherings in homes. Not churches. That is a fact. Spread the word.. Many thanks.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 17, 2017 at 8:08 pm

          Steve, I am well aware of this, thank you.

      • Frank Riley says

        Dec 17, 2017 at 9:49 am

        Linda wrote: ‘Why should Muslims have so much freedom in the free world . . . ‘ Because they bite — and the bite can be fatal!

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 18, 2017 at 11:39 pm

          If we cave to Muslims we just embolden them.

    • Infidel says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 12:08 am

      Very good Question and I have been scratching my head for an answer for most of my life… Some issues really boggle the mind 🙂

    • J D S says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 8:49 am

      It’s time for the U.S. government to cut all ties with The Pakis….not only with them but with any country that upholds the converting to Islam of their citizens….That also includes any European countries that are leaning towards islam…and God knows most of Europe is bending the knee.

    • Save Europe says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 7:35 pm

      Linda – I couldn’t put it any better.

  2. DFD says

    Dec 16, 2017 at 5:30 pm

    Thoughts From Europe
    ==================

    I am so confused. Coincidence upon coincidence! No, just one. Well if it’s only one, it must be a coincidence. What am I talking about? The spread of Islam, endless, wonderful people, of colonizers arriving to bring us the happiness of diversity and multiculturality!

    The thing that bugs me a bit is that it all happened around the same time, everywhere in the West. From Germany to Hawaii – what a ***coincidence!!!*** Isn’t that a wonderful coincidence? Couldn’t be planned, could it? Nah, just a coincidence. And “our” governments – hmh. Just like “our” free media, they couldn’t do anything wrong! Of course not, for the last 70, and more, years they have been telling us how wrong Christianity is, how stupid it is to believe in that, how much more enlightened we are in a relative world with relative cultures and, and, and … All that.

    So, what went wrong? Nothing, nothing that is their fault. Because, **as we all know** {{NO! I am not a journalist, ‘just couldn’t help myself}} from practically every website and every contributor, poster or commentator: “They are soooo stupid!” That’s it! They are all stupid. Easy solution, now every commentator/poster will rush forward and replace those stupid people. What? Isn’t happening? Shit!

    Hmh, head-scratching… I know, I know; snip-snip go my fingers. It’s because “they” haven’t read the Islamic core texts. So, they don’t know what Islam is all about. Those poor (mis)leaders of “ours”, if they would only know. But the information services, diplomats, police, spy agencies, they all are withholding information from “our” elites {{our elites??? They aren’t mine, I assure you.}} So that’s why they don’t know, from Hawaii to Germany, they just don’t know the Islamic core texts, they never heard of Muslim raiding parties taking slaves, attacks upon the Balkans right up to the Gates of Vienna, Conquests of Spain, America having to pay Jazyia… They just don’t know any of that, never heard about it. Uoghhh! What a simple explanation, thank God, nothing to “debunk”! I was afraid I would require debunking, oh dear.

    So, now I know, it was not only a coincidence that the invasion by the Muhajiroun (Muslim colonists, Hijrians) happened practically simultaneously, there was also the additional coincidence that all information was withheld from “our” leaders. Such unfortunate collection of just two coincidences. Oh those poor dears…

    Well, that’s it for today. Maybe tomorrow, or so, a bit more.

    • DFD says

      Dec 16, 2017 at 5:36 pm

      PS: “…oh those poor dears.” That referred to “our leaders” – of course.

    • Richard says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 6:11 pm

      It reminds me of an old Twilight Zone story: “To Serve Man”. These wonderful people arrived on earth from another planet. Their aim was entirely to help us. Then one day the government deciphered one of their books: “To Serve Man”. It was a cookbook!

  3. Thomas Kimball says

    Dec 16, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    If I could write a caption for that picture it would say, ” first the Mormons then the Jehovah’s witnesses and now this,when will they leave me alone?

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 16, 2017 at 9:52 pm

      Thomas, you might find the Mormons and the Jehovah’s Witnesses to be annoying–I admit that I often do, myself–but they are not threatening people or forcing them to convert.

      Muslims are, though.

      How can you consider this morally equivalent?

    • Richard says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 6:13 pm

      There’s a joke in the Native American community: “Why do Indians live in mobile homes? So when the Jehovah’s Witnesses come to the door, we know what to do!

  4. Hari Singh says

    Dec 16, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    The religion of Peace is at it again.
    The Sikhs/Hindus of Pakistan are those who were overlooked in the mass murder and forced conversions of the Hindu-Sikh populations in the partition of 1947.
    The Muslim League under the new Pakistan PM Muhammad Jinnah promised those communities the right to live in peace, he lied-taqiyat.
    Between 1/2-1 million Hindus, and Sikhs were killed in India Pakistan’s partition, when the mullas called Muslim mobs to kill, drive out or forcibly convert the infidels in the new state of Pakistan.
    So the murder of infidels and the absence of religious freedom is the very reason there are no Hindus-Sikhs or virtually none left in Pakistan from a previous 30% of the population to present less than 1%.
    The Colonial British exacerbated the situation by announcing the border the day before independence was granted.
    A few years back a few Sikhs were beheaded in Peshawar for refusing Islam.
    As non-people of the Book Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists are not even allowed to live as tolerated non-believers but according to Shariat must be killed or converted.
    Just before 911 Muslim Qazis, issued a fatwa calling the Sikh people enemies of Islam.

    • jayell says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 12:02 am

      Don’t blame the British for the typically appalling behaviour of the Muslims in India. We were trying to keep things civilised, but of course experience shows that you can’t do that with Muslims. By the way, the Muslim approach to moral and intellectual integrity is interesting; I.e., make all sorts of high-minded statements then ‘re-interpret’ them so as to totally negate them, or find some spurious excuse for saying that they don’t apply to you. Very good! NOT!!

    • Sheeple nomore says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 12:20 pm

      Maybe this is why many Sihks immigrated to Canada. We have a large Sikh population mingled in with our Christian population. My city and surrounding areas have a large Sikh population mixed in an area considered a ‘Bible Belt.’ The Sikhs have our back and we have theirs. We join in and share each other’s festivities, heck, Sikhs even have Christmas floats for our Christmas parades, all wishing us a Merry Christmas. We help prepare for their fall festivals. Our children are great friends to one another.

      Unfortunately, our community is seeing the first mosque been built on the outskirts of the city. Our Temples and Churches are bigger and more magnificent….so far! Hindus, Sikhs and Christains are sticking together, it is the Hindus and Sikhs warning us about Islam!

      • Richard says

        Dec 17, 2017 at 6:40 pm

        The Sikhs are an astounding and admirable people. I knew one a some years back and I suppose what he said still holds true. Yes, Sheeple no more, Sikhs are a blessing everywhere they settle and we could learn a lot from them. The Sikh areas of India do not allow begging (which beggars have devised ingenious ways to get around), but if someone is in need, they will help him to set up his own business and work with him to make sure it is a success. Not surprisingly, Sikhs are the most financially successful people in India. The Sikh religion is a blend of Hinduism and Islam. They are recognized by their required beards, turbans and swords, but the man who invented the Sikh religion also made the wise choice that they must have their own distinct language. As I was told; “You can grow the beard; you can put on the turban; you can carry the sword; – But unless you speak Sikh language, you are not a Sikh.

        • Carol says

          Dec 23, 2017 at 12:29 am

          Sounds good but I wonder what it could take from Islam that would not contaminate it?

      • Save Europe says

        Dec 17, 2017 at 7:42 pm

        It’s so very true. Occasionally I find forums discussing Islam, and the number of Sikh and Hindu posters forewarning the West almost twenty years ago – and espousing comments such as ‘don’t let Islam or Muslims into your countries’, is quite incredible. They were so correct. People should have listened.

  5. Wellington says

    Dec 16, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    Just about the worst people who can come into your life are control-freaks. Yes, you might have one as a boss at work, and if so this is a real downer. You might have one as your mate, and if so get away from that mate sooner rather than later. You might have one as your neighbor, and if so stand up to the bastard or just move to another locality. You might have one as a family member, and if so limit your contact with that family member as much as possible. And so on and so on along these lines.

    But mankind has a religion, yes, an entire effing major religion, which has control-freakness written all over it, as evidenced here by this article. And with some 1.5 billion silly people as adherents. Pathetically clueless at best are they, quite dangerous at worst.

    Islam can be objected to for so many reasons. Up there towards the top is that it is “control-freakish” in its entirety.

    Annoying. A pain-in-the-ass. Simply wrong is anything that smacks of a control-freak aspect. And this is just one of so many objections that can be raised to Islam. Yes, the burden to all mankind which is Mo’s creed continues—-and with no end in sight.

    I detest Islam. No one of sense and knowledge could possibly do otherwise. Anyone thinking me wrong here, I would be most interested in a counter to this particular contention of mine. Yes, detesting Islam is, I would argue, the only defensible way of treating with this control-freak, desultory, clitoris destroying, freedom-crushing, violence-prone, equality-under-the law destroying, Golden Rule for all destroying, romantic love enemy and, in general, enemy of the mind belief system. Did I leave anything out? Oh, I’m sure I did because Islam’s many wrongs approach the innumerable, with its control-freak aspect being one of the most annoying of them all.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 16, 2017 at 9:57 pm

      What I hate most about Islam is it’s brutal savagery.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 16, 2017 at 10:00 pm

        its

      • Rotten Eye says

        Dec 17, 2017 at 5:53 am

        Is that all?

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 17, 2017 at 8:34 pm

          No, it’s not all I hate about Islam–just what I hate most.

    • Save Europe says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 7:47 pm

      You’re absolutely correct Wellington. I will also add that there is little productivity and zero creativity in Muslim nations – a dearth of freedom of any individual’s free thought. Plus, it’s like two tiered Communism – all males at the top, equal. Women at the bottom. That said, Islam is so so very thin-skinned – it cannot tolerate criticism, and women must be controlled.

  6. mortimer says

    Dec 16, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    K. 2:256 doesn’t refer to forced conversions, but the reverse. It refers to those who had TAKEN AN OATH to raise their children in Judaism. Mohammed encouraged these women not to keep their oath, but to BREAK IT and raise their children in Islam.

    Mohammed forcibly converted ALL THE ARABS to Islam by threatening them with DEATH. Muslims threaten ALL POLYTHEISTS with DEATH if they do not join Islam. Only Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians have the THIRD CHOICE of paying jizzya.

    The lies Muslims tell about K. 2:256 are VERBAL JIHAD also know as TAQIYYA.

  7. Singh the Sikh says

    Dec 16, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    Hey Obama, how about telling the Pakis to cherish their Sikhs? They will spit on your face of you try it with them.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 16, 2017 at 10:07 pm

      Grimly true–not that Obama would ever say such a thing.

      • Steve says

        Dec 17, 2017 at 7:38 am

        @gravenimage. Obama’s father was a Muslim and so was his step father from Indonesia. Got that?

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 17, 2017 at 8:34 pm

          Yes, Steve, I am well aware of this.

    • Save Europe says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 7:49 pm

      Excellent post. Obama’s PR’ing of Islam, repulsed me immeasurably. I’m now waiting for former PM Tony Blair to tell us, here in the UK, to cherish our Muslims.

  8. Singh the Sikh says

    Dec 16, 2017 at 8:14 pm

    My Sikh brothers should stop deluding themselves. They can never live peace in Pakistan. Any Muslim show of tolerance is temporary and/or fake. One day they will force you to convert. If not you, then you children or grandchildren. Sikhs would rather die than be subjugated. That makes Sikhs and Muslims natural born enemies, as our history shows. If there’s anything to be learnt from our background, it’s to never trust Muslims. As a people we took to arms because of Muslims. We will always be in a state of war with them because they are religiously commanded to convert infidels; they will always try to destroy our religion and always coveting our women through force and kidnapping, and we will never stand for that. We will fight them. So there can never be peace with them. Not with a supremacist religion bent on our destruction. With Muslims it’s a fight to the death. That’s how we survived. By taking a chapter out of the Koran and striking terror in their hearts. Let’s not forget our history or the sacrifices of our ancestors. When it come to Muslims we stand side by side with our Hindu bothers and the rest of the world.

    • Infidel says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 12:15 am

      Maharaja Ranjit Singh… man he really took it to these vermin….

    • Linda says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 1:20 am

      You said, “If there’s anything to be learnt from our background, it’s to never trust Muslims.” I believe that with all my heart.

      • Steve says

        Dec 17, 2017 at 7:39 am

        Linda. So do I. Look up taqiyya, tawriya, muruna and kitman. Thank you.

    • Save Europe says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 7:51 pm

      I applaud you Sir! Great post.

    • Charles Martel Appreciation Society. says

      Dec 19, 2017 at 7:19 am

      Well said, Singh the Sikh. It is apparent now that muslims are the only people/religion that refuse to coexist peacefully with people of a different faith or no faith.

    • Carol says

      Dec 23, 2017 at 1:22 am

      Encouraging post, thank you. The Canadian anti-jihadist Kevin J. Johnston is from Mississauga and he has great regard for the Sikh community. Currently however he appears alarmed that Sikh girls are being singled out by muslim boys pretending to be Sikh or Hindu. I noticed an earlier post here by Richard however that makes me wonder if Sikh girls should be able to do some of their own screening (Kevin may not be aware of this) – Richard wrote: “…the man who invented the Sikh religion also made the wise choice that they must have their own distinct language. As I was told; “You can grow the beard; you can put on the turban; you can carry the sword; – But unless you speak Sikh language, you are not a Sikh.”
      Would a Canadian Sikh girl know the language and would she be able to test if a fellow truly were a Sikh?

      • Carol says

        Dec 23, 2017 at 1:27 am

        Here is the video:

        Who are Sikhs? Learn it. By Kevin J Johnston on FreedomReport.ca

  9. gravenimage says

    Dec 16, 2017 at 9:45 pm

    Pakistan: Muslims forcing Sikhs to convert to Islam
    ……………………….

    This is what Muslims do when they are in the majority. Pakistan is now about 2% non-Muslim–this includes all Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Jains, and Atheists.

    More:

    The Qur’an famously says that “there is no compulsion in religion,” (2:256), but what constitutes “compulsion” is in the eye of the beholder.
    ……………………….

    That’s right–as long as you do not consider humiliation, robbery, rape, kidnapping, false accusations of “blasphemy”, and murder–for your or for your whole family–to be compulsions, then you are fine…

    God, I hate Islam.

    • Linda says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 1:22 am

      I hate Islam too.

      • Save Europe says

        Dec 17, 2017 at 7:52 pm

        Ditto.

  10. Lydia says

    Dec 16, 2017 at 10:10 pm

    islam is intolerance at its max.

  11. Adam says

    Dec 16, 2017 at 10:31 pm

    “…love, peace and harmony”.

    Been in the area since 1901 and somehow can still expect “love, peace and harmony”.

    There is no way to help this. There is no way to spend enough money to fix this.

    Good luck and may God bless you.

  12. Infidel says

    Dec 17, 2017 at 12:11 am

    Also the Muslim UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE can also help, Any Muslim can be a mad Jehaadi as well as a peaceful moderate .. it depends on the quantum mechanical context.. just like the cat in Schrodinger’s box or the dual nature of light…

  13. Charles says

    Dec 17, 2017 at 1:11 am

    Kidnapping?
    Beatings?
    Forced to “Convert to Satanism”?

    How very Satanic! OH! I mean Islamic!
    What a perfectly “shitty” (not a) religion that must be.

    Guess that’s why their country is still called PUKE-A-STAN?

  14. CRUSADER says

    Dec 17, 2017 at 2:46 am

    Sikh
    Total population

    27 million[1]

    Regions with significant populations

    India (predominantly Punjab) 20,815,730[2]
    United States 500,000–700,000[3][4][5]
    Canada 468,673[6]
    United Kingdom 432,429[7][8][9]
    Malaysia 100,000[10]
    Australia 72,000[11]
    Italy 70,000[12]
    Thailand 70,000[13]
    Pakistan 50,000[14]
    United Arab Emirates 50,000[15]
    Philippines 30,000[16]
    New Zealand 19,191[17]
    Germany 10,000–20,000[18]
    Singapore 15,000[19]

    Hide and Seek …in diaspora ….

    Thank goodness for sanctuaries and safe emigration of these defiant and proud people
    who don’t want to blend with Moslem demands on them.

    • Save Europe says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 7:55 pm

      Yes. MSM media portray Muslim invaders to Europe as refugees. These Sikhs are real refugees escaping from Muslim intolerance.

  15. Ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Dec 17, 2017 at 3:52 am

    Peterson, was that the reason why Christian Serbs carried out genocide killings and ethnic cleansing of Muslims in Bosnia as part of world kuffar (filthy Christians, Jews and idol worshipers) gang up against Muslims? No wonder, there is more alliance between murderous evil Zionist state of Israel and fascist Hindu barbarians of India against Pakistan?. you will all fail and Muslims will finally emerge victorious. wicked evil people

    • Perera says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 5:46 am

      Thank the real God Yaweh, the God of Israel for Zionists. We owe it to them for keeping the Islamic hellholes in line. Our only hope is Islam will be extinct in 50 years . Recent statistics says about 10 million Muslims a year leave the religion of Pislam.
      India should ban anyone promoting Koran, unless they edit the quran and remove all nonsense from it

      • Ibrahim itace muhammed says

        Dec 17, 2017 at 8:49 am

        perera, Yahweh was an ancient Idol designed by the satan.Allah assured Muslims victory over the forces of Satan. your gang of evils will be defeated by Muslims. Take it from me.

        • Save Europe says

          Dec 17, 2017 at 8:01 pm

          Actually it’s Islam that is totally Satanic.

        • Champ says

          Dec 18, 2017 at 7:06 pm

          “Actually it’s Islam that is totally Satanic.”

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Indeed!!!

    • Infidel says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 12:30 pm

      I was actually wondering where U had been and now U have crept out of ur slimy hole of hatred and terror…I wonder where U live.. I;m sure some Western country where U will be leeching on social security and other benefits and yet hating the same Westerners..And ps tell me as to how Ur breeding program is going and which city in the West are U going to target in the long run.. I’m sure U may have some long time plans along with Ur jehaadi cronies…

      • Ibrahim itace muhammed says

        Dec 17, 2017 at 3:20 pm

        Infidel, I am professional self-employed. I don’t need your poisonous social security from the wealth you amassed through colonisation and deprivation of other nations . I hate terrorists, but I support freedom fighters like Hamas.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 23, 2017 at 12:39 am

          A professional *what*?

          Notice Ibrahim itace muhammed’s idea that one can only gain financial security if they are exploiting others–talk about projection! This is how Muslims think, since they enslave and abuse others.

          And look at this last line–he simply does not call Jihad murderers terrorists, but “freedom fighters”.

          In Islam,l “freedom” means conquest and forced submission of others to Islam. *Ugh*.

      • Save Europe says

        Dec 17, 2017 at 8:04 pm

        I reckon he’s in Luton or Bradford. Possibly Marseille – you also neglected to say he has 6 kids each with 4 wives. Total – 24. He drives an Uber taxi, one hour a month, then, as you correctly hypothesised, takes benefits from the Westerners he has zero tolerance for.

    • Save Europe says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 8:00 pm

      Hello Mr Ibrahim! Can you please explain the following – the Ottoman Empire and Barbary Pirates raping and pillaging Europe which caused the defensive Crusades? Can you explain how the Bosnians became Musllimin the first place? (answer? See question ONE – you shot yourself in the foot there! Can you explain the genocide of Armenians? Can you explain the constant rapes of non Muslim women for thousands of years? Can you….’fornicate off’…..please?

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 8:46 pm

      Notice that Ibrahim itace muhammed has no problem with Sikhs being brutalized and forcibly converted to Islam.

      But then, why would he? This is mainstream Islam. *Ugh*.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 18, 2017 at 11:55 pm

      What claptrap. The Muslim population is actually growing in India and Israel.

      Compare this with Muslim states–almost all Hindus (and Christians, Sikhs, Jains, and other non-Muslims) have been almost violently eradicated in Pakistan, and this pattern is happening in Bangladesh, as well. And almost all Muslim states simply expelled all of their Jewish populations.

      Doesn’t Ibrahim itace muhammd realize what obvious bs his claim is? Or does he just think that we don’t know?

  16. CRUSADER says

    Dec 17, 2017 at 4:26 am

    Intolerance seems to be the pattern with the Left and with Islam.

    Such a shame for Sikhs who had their origin in Pakistan territory to begin with.

    Such a shame for Bahá’í Faith as well, who have had to be driven out of Near East by Moslem fanatics.
    At least Israel has a place for Bahá’í Faith in Haifa. Seems very reasonable and accommodating of the Israelis. Don’t see much of toleration and acceptance among the unmerciful Muzzies.

    Recall that the Crusades were primarily a defensive front against aggression from Islam encroaching on territory of Christendom. History is accurate about this. But the Islamists wish to rewrite history falsely.

    Intolerant ignoramus Muslims who can’t seem to live and let live, but have to impose on everybody.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 17, 2017 at 8:52 pm

      Very telling that despite all their appeasement of Islam that they only place in the region they are safe is Israel.

  17. Sarah says

    Dec 17, 2017 at 4:54 am

    Look, its not like I don’t appreciate and understand Singh’s viewpoint. I really do. But come on, mate. Its Pakistan. You’re a Sikh community, who are choosing to live in what is possibly, the biggest Islamic cesspit on the entire planet – and that’s really saying something, given there’s 51 odd Islamic options to label as cesspit’s around the planet and that not one of them is really all that much better than Pakistan.

    Complaining about being forced to convert to Islam, in a nation filled to the rafters with inbred, disease riddled ingrates who love nothing more than to fight to the death and to torture one another (and anyone else in their vicinity) over Islam, given how Islam itself is a religion of the sword and grows by conquest, subjugation and some astonishing inbred breeding rates – it strikes me as remarkably damn idiotic to complain about being forced to convert to Islam.

    I mean, they’ve had multiple Guru’s slaughtered throughout the history of their religion – for refusing to convert to Islam, when coerced!

    Sikhism itself was created in part, as a response to Islam in India back in the 1400s. There’s a reason why its one of the most martially capable religions on the planet. It was created in part – and has evolved largely because of, the Islamic threat over the centuries. So it seems baffling to me, to see a bunch of Sikh’s bitching about being forced to convert to Islam, you’d think they’d have the whole mess sussed out by now.

    And to expect the Paki government to answer their complaint and do something, no ANYTHING that is remotely favourable towards the Sikh’s themselves, is well beyond naive and deeply in the realms of sheer stupidity.

    I have compassion for the Sikh community in question. I understand the hard place they’re in right now. But they don’t seem to be facing reality here.

  18. Perera says

    Dec 17, 2017 at 5:52 am

    Islam is not at all interested in individual rights, You can see that very clearly in all the majority muslim countries. It is rather interested in the territoty under its control. Muslims are literally told to multiply in their host countries where they are minorities and wait until their population grow to about 10%, then they will raise hell and demand Sharia ( The Satanic law)

  19. Kasey says

    Dec 17, 2017 at 8:53 am

    Meanwhile, after almost 12 months of delay in Australia, the Melbourne driver of the Bourke Street car massacre, “which has nothing to do with Islamic terrorism” as commented then by a leading Victorian cop, faced court this week on 8 murder charges.(not a hint of a word on any terrorism)

    The media report on this seems intent on ignoring the fact that he was a convert to Islam in the months preceding that rampage.

    Whatever the effect of his intense indoctrination to Islam was, the fact that he has pleaded ” not guilty” to all charges, indicates several things. His lawyers probably will now claim insanity as his major defence. But if that indoctrination produced a form of “Islamic insanity”, (as it does in many others), that will have to be proven first by competent psychiatrists, or that he was insane before his conversion.

    So far, media reports on his plea have made no mention of his mental state or his conversion to Islam, or his behavior during the incident or in the weeks prior to it.

    One could well speculate that “with a wink and a nod” from higher authorities, the media and justice system will sanitize all reference to his links to Islam out of the picture. They certainly don’t want this incident to be seen as the very first devastating Islamic terrorist attack on Australian soil they couldn’t detect and stop.

    The many months’ delay in starting this trial has been the first official step in denying justice to all the victims, esp. at Christmas time, for to be out of the public’s attention and mind and as part of the official appeasement process which runs continually here.

  20. J D S says

    Dec 17, 2017 at 8:54 am

    It’s time for the U.S. government to cut all ties with The Pakis….not only with them but with any country that upholds the converting to Islam of their citizens….That also includes any European countries that are leaning towards islam…and God knows most of Europe is bending the knee.

  21. Peter says

    Dec 17, 2017 at 12:05 pm

    Sikhism was founded by those opposed to the power of Hindu Brahmins and the depredations of Muslims. Pakistan has no more Buddhists (if Islam truly was a peaceful and tolerant religion, they would number in the millions). Soon, Pakistan will have eliminated the remaining Hindus, Sikhs, and Christians. After that, well, the Ahmadis, of course. Then, the Shi’a. And, as evil inevitably turns on itself, those Sunnis not pious enough.

  22. Infidel says

    Dec 17, 2017 at 12:34 pm

    The Mad Muslims fear the Sikhs a LOT!! they are the only people who have tamed the mad Afghans on their own backyard in history.. See the exploits of Maharaja Ranjit Singh….

  23. George says

    Dec 17, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    RE: Last paragraph of original article, referring to harmony between Sikhs and Muslims. As Elmer Fudd use to say, “Silly wabbit!”!

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