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Pakistani academic: Islam and Christianity both preach peace and tolerance, minorities have equal rights in Pakistan

Dec 24, 2017 4:05 pm By Robert Spencer

Let’s see. 32,000 jihad attacks by Muslims acting in accord with Islam’s teachings since 9/11. How many terror attacks by Christians acting in accord with the teachings of Christ? Why, none. Yep, must be the same message.

And minorities enjoy equal rights in Pakistan? If Dr. Zafar Moeen Nasir could package and sell whatever it is he is smoking, he could realize a handsome profit.

“‘Islam, Christianity promote peace,’ Express Tribune, December 21, 2017:

LAHORE: Punjab University (PU) Vice Chancellor (VC) Prof Dr Zafar Moeen Nasir has said that Islam and Christianity both preach the lesson of peace and tolerance.

He was addressing the cake cutting ceremony organised by PU’s Christian community at Faisal Auditorium on Wednesday.

Addressing the ceremony, Nasir said that minorities enjoyed equal rights in Pakistan.

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  1. Z says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    Only one of those religions are peaceful

    • Westman says

      Dec 24, 2017 at 6:32 pm

      Not even Muslims have equal rights in Pakistan; particularly women.

      http://tribune.com.pk/story/1175262/british-woman-raped-killed-honour-pakistan/

      http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/01/asia/pakistan-woman-fire-death/index.html

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/29/pakistan-woman-husband-killed-by-family-unapproved-marriage

      It’s estimated that 500 Pakistani women are murdered in “honor” killings.

      Punjab University Vice Chancellor Prof Dr Zafar Moeen Nasir is an academic fraud.

    • Lydia Church says

      Dec 26, 2017 at 1:16 pm

      He is “half right, and half wrong”!

      Islam is neither peaceful nor tolerant.

      So if he gets 50% correct on an exam,
      that is still a failing grade.

  2. Leo O Zakharoff says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    This ass hole, Nasir, is so full of it, in Pakistan, 32,000 Jihad attacks? He is a POS. In Jerusalem, Muslims, Jews and Christians DO live in peace….leo

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 24, 2017 at 5:23 pm

      There have been over 32,000 Jihad terror attacks worldwide since 9/11.

      There have been large numbers of Jihad terror attacks in Pakistan again Christians and other Infidels.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 27, 2017 at 11:52 pm

        against

  3. Emilie Green says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 4:21 pm

    The burden that this guy has, not that he lets it get in his way, is that more and more have their own copy of Muslim/Govt B/S-to-English code book. They know, they know, that Muslims, following the rules of their Qur’an, are the cause of so many of these problems.

  4. gravenimage says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 4:34 pm

    Pakistani academic: Islam and Christianity both preach peace and tolerance, minorities have equal rights in Pakistan

    He was addressing the cake cutting ceremony organised by PU’s Christian community at Faisal Auditorium on Wednesday.

    Addressing the ceremony, Nasir said that minorities enjoyed equal rights in Pakistan.
    ……………………………

    It’s not as though the threatened Christians could say that Dr. Zafar Moeen Nasir was lying like a rug…

  5. Tjhawk says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 4:49 pm

    It might be possible to give a minority equal rights in Pakistan—– if you could find a minority. I can’t remember the exact numbers, but at the partition in 1948, Pakistan had about a 20 – 25 % non-muslim minority. In the years since, this proportion has dropped to about 1 – 2 %. I’m sure this loss of population could not possibly have anything to do with islam, since these minorities were treated with such respect and equal rights.

    Meanwhile, in India, the proportion of muslims to the rest of the population, has remained about the same as it was in 1948.

    What a liar this guy is.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 24, 2017 at 5:29 pm

      Yes–all non-Muslims together–Hindus, Christians, Sikhs, Jains–make up no more than 2% of the population in Pakistan, tops. They rest were all driven out, forcibly converted, or murdered outright.

      Pakistan will probably be 100% Muslim within the next few years.

    • Janwaar Bibi says

      Dec 24, 2017 at 7:28 pm

      In India, the proportion of Muslims has grown from 8% to more than 16% of the population.

      • Tjhawk says

        Dec 24, 2017 at 11:53 pm

        Yuk

  6. Bev says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    Sociologists proclaim that the more words a society has for something, the more important that thing is to society. Islam has a least 3 words for lying and probably more than I am not aware of. So of course Islam lies about what Islam is, if they told the truth no one would believe it. What amazes me is the number of people who do believe the garbage.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 24, 2017 at 6:04 pm

      Bev, Muslims have at least six doctrines for deceiving the Infidels about Islam: Taqiyya, Kitman, Tawriya, Taysir, Darura, and Maruna.

      As for otherwise intelligent people believing this deceit, I think there are two main reasons: one, that we are largely used to dealing with honest people here in the West; and that so many simply don’t *want* to know what a threat Islam is.

      • melek-ric says

        Dec 24, 2017 at 7:50 pm

        The other beauty of those six doctrines is that Muslims use them to deceive themselves about Islam as well.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 27, 2017 at 11:54 pm

          Some do–but most Muslims know that Islam preaches violence.

  7. Karen says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 5:06 pm

    “Addressing the ceremony, Nasir said that minorities enjoyed equal rights in Pakistan.”

    “Enjoy” is certainly an ironic choice of words by Dr. Nasir. I doubt Christians or other religious minorities enjoy much of anything in Pakistan. Especially when the police forces and government officials aid and abet the mobs that make the lives of non-Muslims a living hell.

  8. DHazard says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    Whenever the titles “Dr.”, “Prof”, “PhD.” are associated with a Muslim academic it is almost a certainty that the person either earned their title from an Islamic studies type academy or has no achievements or recognition in their field and have no published work on record. In fact they are highly likely to be unimportant people who have no integrity, no interest in facts or objectivity, and have wasted the little intelligence they have on biased, lazily researched attempts to confirm Muslim superiority, “scientific facts” in the Quran or long discredited conspiracy theories against Muslims.

    By and large the unearned recognition of Muslim “academics” lies entirely in denying or disfiguring reality, and in their favorite sport: extreme mental gymnastics. Their targeted audience is primarily perpetually enraged and functionally illiterate Muslims. Among their Western peers they would be considered obsolete but for the fact they sometimes feed the “Islamophobia” narrative which, unfortunately, has infected academic discourse all over the world.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 24, 2017 at 6:08 pm

      Very true.

    • Infidel says

      Dec 24, 2017 at 11:15 pm

      I LOVED IT WHEN U say “THE UNEARNED RECOGNITION OF MUSLIM ACADEMICS” U are dead spot-on… In India, U see this ALL THE TIME… Useless Muslims being propped up in just about every fields, JUST TO APPEASE THEM AND GET THEIR VOTES.. And all this only ends up further blowing up their already bloated false EGO and Islamic sense of superiority over others.. Too many Muslims sitting in important positions in India WITHOUT ANY TRUE MERIT…. And so also the in the West… See how some of these fellows have become even Ministers in parliament (Canada) and Mayors (like in London). This is actually very dangerous too..

  9. Peter says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 6:00 pm

    Verily, his PhD is worth less than the scrap paper it was printed on. An Islamic mind is a terrible thing to have wasted.

    • Jayell says

      Dec 24, 2017 at 6:58 pm

      Where did he get it from? Fell off the back of a lorry, did it?

  10. samdav7 says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 6:10 pm

    I think Dr. Zafar lives on another planet where he doesn’t get the news about the daily horrific crimes committed by Pakistani Muslims against Christians just because they’re Christians

  11. DK says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 6:12 pm

    If they are described as minorities they are not equal.

  12. gravenimage says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    Dr. Zafar Moeen Nasir is a thoroughgoing Taqiyya artist. Here’s some of the other stuff he has been involved with:

    “Islam has nothing to do with terrorism”

    https://pakobserver.net/islam-nothing-terrorism-yousafi/

  13. Voytek Gagalka says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    Let’s see. Former Prime Minister (Ali Bhutto) hanged for “corruption” (official charge). But since in Muslim world only not-sufficiently-Muslim can be corrupted, then off with his head (the neck’s spine, actually). His daughter who succeeded him in office, assassinated since no respectful Mohammedan could ever accept a woman as leader in mostly Muslim country: off with her life (blown to pieces). Must I list here all the remaining instances on how “tolerant” they are in Pakistan under “the religion of peace”? How they almost daily mistreat all others but Muslims-in-good-standing (as only them can enjoy relative “peace” with price is TOTAL submission to the pack, no individuality ever allowed)? Oh, the list could be VERY long indeed and it could take me all remaining precious few days of this year to complete – as if I would have nothing else to do than countering idiotic statement of an idiot posing as some Pakistani “academic”!

    • Karen says

      Dec 24, 2017 at 6:53 pm

      Yes, the list of regular atrocities against non-Muslims would take a very long time to compile and verify, and why bother? Even the most half-hearted internet search would result, in mere seconds, in numerous examples of civil and human rights abuses against Pakistani religious minorities. While these are horrifying in the extreme, especially strange are the loyalty tests of, and accusations against Muslims suspected of not being 100% in-good-standing….weird to say the least!

  14. M says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    I don’t think a “religion” that calls for the destruction and subjugation of anyone who disagrees with them qualifies AS a religion. Islamic doctrine sounds like Nazi supremacist doctrine to me. We don’t tolerate people dressed up like Nazis telling each other the world should be “cleansed” of Jews and gays should be thrown off buildings….so why tolerate the SAME ideas from Muslims??

  15. Ray Jarman says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    This reminds me of Nietzsche’s criticism of the Stoics when he scolded them, “You have forced yourselves so long, so persistently, and with such hypnotic rigidity to see Nature falsely, that is to say, Stoically, that you are no longer able to see the nature (truth), that is to say that you are no longer able to see it otherwise–and to crown all, some unfathomable arrogance gives you the Bedlamite hope that because you are able tyrannize over yourselves–(substitute Islam for Stoicism) Islam is self-tyranny–everyone else will also allow herself to be tyrannized.” I pray that the Europeans (and one might add Canadians as well) come to their senses and rid themselves of Antenor (could also say Obama) like traitors that refer to themselves as leaders. A Quranic exegesis will never occur until Muslims are given the choice of to apostate or return from where they or their forefathers came. No where in the world, not even Indonesia, are Christians permitted to thrive and build beautiful churches, so why allow Muslims the right?

  16. mgoldberg says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 7:17 pm

    This is similar to Achmadinejad’s ‘there are no homosexuals in Iran’
    Here’s it’s all religions are equal.
    As in Stalinist Russia, or the muslim world. Utopian drivel, hiding the ability to reason, eviscerating
    the ability to reason. Eviscerating the ability to develop and enlarge the conscience.
    How can a professor, seeing what happens to other ‘sects’ of Islam, being warred upon, let alone the torments of Christians in his lands, speak so blindly.
    Easy. Not being blind would likely bring terrible retribution from the other ‘believers’

  17. Ren says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    Taqiya

  18. Flavius Claudius Iulianus says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    She doesn’t buy it, and she’s ex-muslim:

    http://barenakedislam.com/2017/12/24/if-you-really-want-to-learn-about-islam-spend-some-time-with-an-ex-muslim/

  19. Georg says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    “…Nasir said that minorities enjoyed equal rights in Pakistan.”

    Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahhaahahhahahahhahahhahahah!!!!

    That’s a good one. Didn’t even see it coming. Maybe he should try stand-up.

  20. abad says

    Dec 24, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    Nasir is practicing taqiyya as usual Allah must be so proud of him

  21. MFritz says

    Dec 25, 2017 at 2:40 am

    And the sun sets in the East? “Academic” for sure…

  22. hendrikush says

    Dec 25, 2017 at 3:27 am

    Minorities surely have equal rights;
    they have the equal rights of slaves under their muslims masters.

  23. R Russell says

    Dec 25, 2017 at 3:43 am

    I suppose some deluded idiots will believe him

  24. dan christensen says

    Dec 25, 2017 at 4:04 am

    We all have equal rights in the world, but moozies have more equal rights than others.

  25. dumbledoresarmy says

    Dec 25, 2017 at 5:07 am

    Non-Islamic minorities, and also those varieties of Muslims deemed heretical – and therefore reclassified as Infidels – by the Sunni Muslim majority, are treated like sh*t in Islamic Pakistan, ghastly Islamic Pakistan that, as V S Naipaul puts it so memorably in his discussion of that terrible country, in his book ‘Among the Believers’, “…out of its Islamic striving had taken the rule of law that it inherited from the British and replaced it with nothing”. (I cannot read that wihout pausing before the word ‘nothing’ and then adding a capital letter – “Nothing”).

    And recently the British Pakistani Christian Association put together a detailed report on the treatment – or, rather, the mistreatment – of minorities in Pakistan, notably the non-Islamic minorities.

    This was in 2013.

    NOTHING has changed since; indeed, things have got worse. I regularly read the newsletters of the Barnabas Fund and they are *full* of accounts of the horrible abuse perpetrated – not just by members of named jihad outfits, but by bog-standard common-or-garden Muslims – upon the Christians of Pakistan.

    http://britishpakistanichristian.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/the-targeting-of-minority-others-in.html

    Wednesday, 14 August 2013
    The Targeting of ‘Minority Others’ in Pakistan: Report Executive Summary and copy of our report.

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1uhi1txZxlhQi1ubnFLcUJsU28/edit

    EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:

    The sprawling nature of the subject matter makes a traditional chapter by chapter breakdown impossible, so this is a somewhat scattergun summary that captures the main issues.

    “Pakistan is the world’s fifth most populous country, and over its existence has shown an unbroken downward trend in the standard of its treatment of religious and other minorities.

    “It is currently rated as the sixth most dangerous country in the world for persecution of minorities.”

    “The targeting of various minorities in Pakistan has grown through time, and in part can now be described as ‘genocidal’ in scope.”

    “…Hindus (and Sikhs, to an extent) are viewed with greater suspicion due to ongoing conflicts with India. In addition, Indian citizens who stray across the unmarked border are treated – however implausibly – as spies, and have been known to be held incommunicado in the prison system for decades without trial, undergoing torture and inhumane conditions, and without the Indian state or the Red Cross being informed. ”

    “…Targeted persecution of Christians and other minorities occurs in every area of Pakistan, both geographically and socially. Kidnap, rape, forced conversion and marriage of minority women and girls occurs on a daily basis, sometimes as part of the sex slave trade, with a smaller number of teenage and prepubescent boys also targeted in abuse rings and prostitution rackets.
    “Muslim clerics and Islamic courts approve, routinely illegally converting and marrying off such under-age girls, as converting someone to the ‘superior’ religion of Islam is deemed a virtue.
    “Non-Muslim women are seen as lawful prey.
    “Some Islamicist groups in Pakistan even teach that any Muslim man who marries or even just rapes a non-Muslim women will be rewarded with seventy virgins in heaven forever, thus making the reward for rape equal to that of a suicide bomber or martyr.
    “Commercial sale of kidnapped women as ‘wives’, or giving them to supporters and followers as wives is sometimes practiced by quite senior state and national politicians.
    “Sexual harassment and rapes without forced marriage and conversion are endemic and an entrenched routine in some villages. Police are nearly always complicit with the kidnappers to some level, sometimes actively covering their tracks, more often than not mocking, pressuring or beating up victim’s families, and sometimes participating in rape themselves.

    “Pakistani police can quite often be accurately described as criminal gangs themselves. Those police that do genuinely try to uphold law and freedom are often sidelined or outmaneuvered or outgunned. Particularly in Karachi, police can function as proxy armies for political groups. In one case, the police burned a Christian man alive and raped his wife in front of their children.”

    And on it goes, ad infinitum, ad nauseam. Every line of it putting the lie to the vicious nonsense of Zafar Nasir.

  26. Matthieu Baudin says

    Dec 25, 2017 at 7:20 am

    Pakistan is a failed state that seeks to strangle it’s religious minorities and it’s dissenting Islamic sects.

  27. Green Infidel says

    Dec 25, 2017 at 7:32 am

    Tell that to Asia Bibi.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 27, 2017 at 11:59 pm

      Thanks for mentioning this poor Christian woman, spending another Christmas in prison under threat of death for refusing to convert to Islam.

  28. Joe says

    Dec 25, 2017 at 7:55 am

    What he is really saying, is that he wishes Islam was more like Christianity, and he wishes that Pakistan was more like the USA. That is why he is comparing them as the same.

  29. Curious Observer says

    Dec 25, 2017 at 10:34 am

    The man needs some serious mental rehabilitation. Minorities have equal rights in Pakistan? Why doesn’t he simply ask the Ahmaddiyas, the Christians, the Hindus and other minorities in Pakistan? To call this man an idiot would be paying him a huge compliment. But then Pakistan is full of lying folks like this man. The few wise folks on TV – Dr. Hoodbhoy, Hassan Nisar, Rauf Klasra, Ameer Mateen and a few others – have very little impact because of th innumerable idiots populating Pakistan’s airwaves and masquerading as hosts and analysts.

  30. martin says

    Dec 25, 2017 at 12:51 pm

    Just the normal lying whore of satan muslim then.

  31. Guy Macher says

    Dec 25, 2017 at 1:25 pm

    Muslim minds are irrational, so there is no such thing as “a Muslim who is a scholar.” This is fitting since their “holy man” is a demonic psychopath.

  32. nicholas tesdorf says

    Dec 25, 2017 at 5:27 pm

    There is Peace and then there is ‘Peace through submission to Islam”;.

  33. janwoG says

    Dec 26, 2017 at 10:32 am

    I care for Christian Pakistani refugees in South East Asia. This guy is a filthy liar.

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