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Robert Spencer video: Is opposition to Muslims-only Maryland housing development just “Islamophobia”?

Dec 14, 2017 9:16 am By Robert Spencer

In this new video, I discuss the controversy that has broken out over a Maryland housing development that advertised and sold homes only to Ahmadiyya Muslims. Predictably, those who object to this are being accused of “Islamophobia.” And just as predictably, there is nothing to the charge, and plenty to be concerned about regarding this development.

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  1. Robert Crawford says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 9:30 am

    Any other group tried that and they’d have the DOJ and state authorities crawling over them in minutes.

    • Gail griffin says

      Dec 15, 2017 at 6:15 am

      It is against the Fair Housing Act. So it against the Federal Law. The realtor should lose his licence. And any realtor representing the buyers could be in hot water too

    • BC says

      Dec 15, 2017 at 9:26 am

      Ahmadis are regarded by ‘regular’ Muslims as apostates and are regularly murdered by them. Just an interesting point RS could have mentioned in his talk, not an excuse for them

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 16, 2017 at 12:55 am

        Ahmadis also regularly whitewash Islam for the “filthy Infidels”. And they still want to see the imposition of brutal Shari’ah law.

  2. Tim says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 9:35 am

    The beginnings of an scale no-go zone.

  3. I wonder about leftists says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 9:37 am

    Right Robert, now who would have thought that this could happen in the good USA? They did not treat
    muslims as a supreme race, now did they? For new housing? It could not be, the USA is not like that.
    , but I can see already the expressions on the muslim’s face, that the USA did it.
    The guy and more guys have that expression on his face which says: THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND THIS IS HOW IT IS GOING TO BE !!! Otherwise …… Good luck America.

  4. Blurb1000 says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 10:30 am

    I have a similar housing development project going on. House for sale – only christians with military combat experiance can buy.

    • Blurb1000 says

      Dec 14, 2017 at 10:45 am

      And Buddhists and atheists With similar background.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 14, 2017 at 7:47 pm

      Really? References, please.

      And this above is not about a single home, in any case, but an entire housing development.

  5. StacyGirl says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 10:37 am

    Let them have it without Taxpayers funding it. Plenty of Lutheran and Catholic housing developments here where I’m sure anyone would be welcome.

  6. Michael Copeland says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 10:49 am

    The limitation is perfectly understandable. The “best of peoples raised up for mankind” cannot be expected to mingle with “apes and pigs”, who are “filth… unclean …the vilest of beasts”, but to be “ruthless” to them. They are obliged, by the ideology that has been “perfected” for them, not to take friends from amongst these others and not to take orders from them. They are, in fact, commanded to remain in “enmity and hatred forever” towards them.

    This is hardly a recipe for community cohesion

    • Jayell says

      Dec 14, 2017 at 12:38 pm

      ‘Cohesion’ for which ‘community’? If it’s muslims, they can’t even manage that when they’re on their own patch.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 14, 2017 at 7:50 pm

        +1

  7. billybob says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 11:12 am

    I’m afraid I must have missed the point. Is there some kind of law against Muslim only housing? Why is this a concern, or rather, why is it any more concerning than any other development by Muslims such as mosques? And I thought the Ahmadiyya were a peaceful sect of Islam that are persecuted in just about any Muslim country. So if it is true that this sect is peaceful, if you ask them what Islam is about of course they will tell you it is peaceful. For them it is. I don’t understand why Robert is targeting them and their housing development when there are no end of other targets to go after.

    • John W says

      Dec 14, 2017 at 11:33 am

      I get your point but it seems to me it goes against the beauty and wonder of diversity and multiculturalism. I mean, how dare they want to live only among people of their own kind. Don’t they know diversity is a strength?!

      • waterdog says

        Dec 14, 2017 at 12:31 pm

        We’re so inferior to them it is difficult for them to have us around for than a few hours at a time.

    • WorkingClassPost says

      Dec 14, 2017 at 1:32 pm

      The Ahmadiyya are probably seeking protection from other muslims.

      • Blurb1000 says

        Dec 14, 2017 at 1:51 pm

        Why don’t they just say it?

        • WorkingClassPost says

          Dec 15, 2017 at 8:02 am

          Because that would be islamophobic?

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 14, 2017 at 7:58 pm

        They are seeking to Islamize the United States.

        The Ahmadi may reject violent Jihad, but they want to see the imposition of brutal Shari’ah law, like any other good Muslim.

        • Darryl Kerney says

          Dec 14, 2017 at 8:29 pm

          gi,
          are they as bad ?
          i thought WCP had a good point,
          perhaps i’m giving them too much credit ?

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 14, 2017 at 8:44 pm

          Darryl, it is true that the Ahmadi don’t accept violent Jihad, and for that they are oppressed and often murdered in Dar-al-Islam.

          But they still seek the end result of Jihad–savage Islamic law.

          And they constantly whitewash Islam, claiming that Islam does not call for violent Jihad–never letting on that this view is considered heretical by all orthodox Muslims.

          This is intended to lull Infidels into a false sense of security regarding Islam, and it often works.

          Both Robert Spencer and Hugh Fitzgerald have written on this subject here many times. Here are just two articles:

          “Hugh Fitzgerald: Qasim Rashid and Harris Zafar, Or, Why Bother?”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/08/hugh-fitzgerald-qasim-rashid-and-harris-zafar-or-why-bother

          “Megyn Kelly exposes Ahmadi Muslim spokesman Harris Zafar’s sly opposition to free speech”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/megyn-kelly-exposes-ahmadi-muslim-spokesman-harris-zafars-sly-opposition-to-free-speech

          If I had to have a Muslim move in next door, would I prefer it be an Ahmadi rather than a pious orthodox Sunni or Shia? Sure–but this is damning with faint praise…

    • Westman says

      Dec 14, 2017 at 1:36 pm

      Yes, there is a US federal law against Muslim-only housing, The Fair Housing Act. You may not dicriminate while selling or renting housing on the basis of religion or race. Any realtor or landlord knows this.

      While I agree that this particular sect is less likely to produce jihadis, it sets a precedence for another jihad-oriented group to create their own “Molenbeek Meadows” exclusive development.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 14, 2017 at 8:02 pm

        True, Westman–and even the Ahmadi are for the imposition of Shari’ah. They just want to see it voted in.

      • Darryl Kerney says

        Dec 14, 2017 at 8:52 pm

        Westman,
        concise and true.
        it’s ironic that it goes against existing laws that were enacted to prevent what was referred to as “prejudice” as i remember it being called, but then the progressives or lefties or socialists or whatever imprecise term we can call them, used the age old of tactic of changing the meaning of words and substituted different words that meant something different and gave them new meanings,
        and whaaaala !
        now “discrimination” means what “prejudice” used to mean, and thus, we are prevented from doing what used to be rational evaluation, ie: having “discriminating taste”, meaning a good eye for quality and value….
        any who don’t see where it goes from there probably won’t be convinced by me that discrimination and prejudice are practically opposites,
        the first meaning to carefully analyse,
        the second meaning to decide without analysing.
        the Left loves to manipulate language,
        there are too many examples.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 14, 2017 at 7:53 pm

      billybob, categorically refusing to rent or sell to any group–Blacks, Jews, Infidels–is illegal in the United States.

    • JayT says

      Dec 14, 2017 at 9:24 pm

      You mean this law on the books since 1968, billybob?

      Fair Housing Act
      Title VIII of the Civil Rights Act of 1968 (Fair Housing Act), as amended, prohibits discrimination in the sale, rental, and financing of dwellings, and in other housing-related transactions, based on race, color, national origin, religion, sex, familial status (including children under the age of 18 living with parents or legal custodians, pregnant women, and people securing custody of children under the age of 18), and disability.

      As to your other mention, mosques would be considered under separation of Church and State, so this is why they can allow only their own faith inside (presuming the structure is on private property).

      Billybob, these things called laws used to be concealed in items known as books, but in modern times you can find them on the internet, too.

  8. Doghouse Riley says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 12:18 pm

    Don’t understand what the fuss is about. All they need to do is move into a neighborhood in sufficient numbers and the infidels will just leave voluntarily. See Western Europe.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 14, 2017 at 8:55 pm

      Yes–this is how it is usually done.

  9. waterdog says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 12:29 pm

    Does that mean you could have no Muslims allowed housing? As long as it’s not “Whites Only” it’s ok.

    • SK says

      Dec 14, 2017 at 2:42 pm

      Last time I saw a post about this dude, he was asking “what about other ethnic communities?”
      Housing discrimination does not an ethnic enclave make.

  10. M says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 12:53 pm

    because next its a sharia only school. and muslim only shopping center. and islamic only courts….

  11. Milad says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    Pope Benedict killed Christians by accusing Islam. Frances is now grovelling to them. You have no better so!option – have you

  12. keval says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 1:56 pm

    Why doesn’t dhimmis in US refuse to learn and keep raising such voices?

    In Canadistan, we feel it is our duty to provide jiziya to religion of peace, we not only permit them Muslims only housing, we even provide them tax dollar subsidy.

    • keval says

      Dec 14, 2017 at 2:01 pm

      City council of Toronto think it is okay for physically disabled-wheel chair using person to deny this subsidized housing, though it is perfectly suitable for him; and force him to take another, more expensive and not accesible, just because he is infidel.

      “On Jan. 1, 2015, the city of Toronto entered a five-year agreement with Ahmadiyya. City council agreed to establish a mandate to restrict tenancy to “members of the Muslim Jama’at.” The Ahmadiyya property is among those that was accessible to Lewis’s needs.”

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 14, 2017 at 8:06 pm

        keval, I take your point–this is definitely discrimination.

        At the same time, I would fear for a disabled Infidel living in majority-Muslim housing. I shudder to think what might happen to him.

  13. DRHazard says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 6:36 pm

    Muslim’s who don’t want to tell the truth but also don’t want to lie, when someone asks about the violent verses in the Quran, have only two options: attack the person asking the question or change the subject or both. It goes something like: you are an Islamophobe who doesn’t understand Islam and the U.S. kills Muslim children. What that really means is: you are right about Islam wanting to dominate the world by killing or threatening to kill, I have never read the Quran but know that what I have heard about it from other Muslims is true, and I hate the United States even though I would rather live here than in a Muslim country.

  14. Kepha says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    There’s an Ahmadi Mosque at 15000 Good Hope Road in Silver Spring/Cloverley MD (at corner of Briggs Cheney Rd). Maybe you could send them some letters of protest.

    They’re fenced better than many a government facility. I’ve driven past them on my way home from work many times.

  15. gravenimage says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    Robert Spencer video: Is opposition to Muslims-only Maryland housing development just “Islamophobia”?
    ………………..

    Another way of setting up No Go Zones.

  16. sidney penny says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    “Islam is beset by misconceptions”

    Yes the other one is “you have taken the word (or what I have said ) out of context”

  17. sidney penny says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 7:23 pm

    The Developer does not say whether the development is in breach of the law or not.

    Is the Fair Housing Law violated or not?

    If so, what is the punishment?

  18. Older Canadian says

    Dec 14, 2017 at 7:47 pm

    One way to look at it. I would prefer not to live with them, (those who pray daily that I should be dead). Then the trade off should be housing development excluding them. Or is this creating “no go zones”, or does this make me a bigot.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 14, 2017 at 8:10 pm

      Yes, this is creating No Go Zones. I don’t want to see Muslims in the free West at all.

      • Savvy Kafir says

        Dec 14, 2017 at 9:19 pm

        Agreed. Muslims do not belong in the West, or any part of the civilized world.

        Free societies, human rights, & Western culture will not be safe until all Muslims are expelled. The sooner more people begin expessing that opinion, the better.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 14, 2017 at 9:31 pm

          We should start by ending the further incursions of Muslims into the West.

  19. Ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Dec 15, 2017 at 1:51 am

    Ahmadiyya or Qadianism is the creation of filthy christian brutal Christian colonialists to subjugate Indian Muslims then. The plot failed and Qadianism is dying. The filthy Christians want it to resuscitate. It cannot. Let evil United States who represent world oppression donate even Their whitehouse to Qadianists, it will make no difference to Muslims who rejected their dog. Idiots!!

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 16, 2017 at 12:58 am

      Note that Ibrahim itace muhammed hates anyone who rejects violent Jihad, and considers them no better than Infidels, whom he has openly said are fair game for Muslims to rape and murder. *Ugh*.

  20. CRUSADER says

    Dec 15, 2017 at 4:00 am

    Now now….there…

    Heed what GravenImage says:

    “We should start by ending the further incursions of Muslims into the West. ”

    That seems very reasonable!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 16, 2017 at 12:59 am

      Thanks, CRUSADER.

  21. Maranatha says

    Dec 15, 2017 at 6:49 am

    Listening to Robert Spencer’s arguments on Islam makes me think he’s a real geniusl his Videos should be aired on all major net-works so that the truth would be available to a wider range of people and if you are asking yourself ; What is truth ? Then I can only answer with what Pamela Geller once said ; “Truth is the recognition of facts .”It’s as simple as that .

  22. Sailbad says

    Dec 15, 2017 at 8:07 am

    Maryland has been lost for some time.
    This deflects attention from Virginia – Annandale, Fairfax, Falls Church – which is likewise lost with the recent exodus of those opposed to religious murderers and the infiltration (and attendant corruption) of police and Northern Virginia political offices…

    Alas, Babylon!

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 16, 2017 at 1:02 am

      Maryland has a Muslim population of about 1.4%.

      http://www.islam101.com/history/population2_usa.html

      Would you *really* cede a part of America to them on so few numbers?

  23. Carolyne says

    Dec 15, 2017 at 9:50 am

    Suppose a development were designated “Whites only” or “Catholics only,” or Jews only?” How about “Blacks only.” I think we did away with these designations sometime in the 50’s. I believe this to be illegal and should be corrected immediately. But of course Muslims are the pets of liberals.

  24. Eric says

    Dec 15, 2017 at 2:10 pm

    This is blatant and open housing discrimination and should be stopped. With all of the homeless people in the USA this is an insult. Where is the N.A.A.C.P. and the useless Congressional Black Caucus on this? No where to be found I bet. For some when exotic foreign people of color discriminate its ok. The end result is that Black Americans are left out.

    Eric

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