Egypt, Jordan, Syria and the Palestinian territories are amongst the most dangerous places on earth for Christians, according to a new report.
Another report by the European-based Catholic Charity Aid to the Church in Need reported before Christmas that Christians are the most persecuted religious group in the world, and that Christianity could be wiped out in Iraq within three years. The Charity “accused the UN for failing to help persecuted Christians and criticised the western media for failing to highlight the problems facing them.” What is striking is that while jihadists were and are busy wiping out Christianity, the UN has been long hijacked by Islamic supremacist and jihad-funding countries; while “professing Christ is becoming a hate crime in the West,” and criticizing jihad is “Islamophobic.” It does not bode well for Christians in the Middle East. The world has abandoned them. To speak out about their plight is now considered “hate speech.”
Recall that Obama said in a 2012 speech to the UN General Assembly: “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”
“Hard-line Islamic views and state-sanctioned ‘religio-ethnic cleansing’ are the key drivers behind the Christian genocide”; meanwhile, hard-line Muslim Brotherhood views are behind the Western media’s fear and failure to highlight the problems facing Christians in the Middle East, the cradle of their faith.
“Report: Middle East Christians on the Eve of Destruction”, by Simon Kent, Breitbart, January 16, 2018:
Egypt, Jordan, Syria and the Palestinian territories are amongst the most dangerous places on earth for Christians, according to a new report.
Although Christians claim the area as their Biblical heartland alongside Israel, persecution and discrimination, especially in the past 15 years, means they now constitute no more than three to four per cent per cent of the region’s population, down from 20 per cent a century ago.
Hard-line Islamic views and state-sanctioned “religio-ethnic cleansing”are the key drivers behind the Christian genocide.
Just 12 months ago, the Islamic State branch that operates in and around Egypt designated the northern African country’s Christian minority their “favorite prey” in a 20-minute propaganda video.
Now the latest report released by the British Christian charity group Open Doors, an organization that monitors ill-treated Christians worldwide, reveals Egyptian Christians in particular are found to suffer in “various ways” such as pressure to convert to Islam, severe restrictions on building places of worship and congregating, and outright violence.
Egypt’s Coptic Christian community, which comprises roughly 10 percent of the country’s population, has been the frequent target of Islamic terrorism with Coptic churches in Alexandria and Tanta both struck by suicide bombers last April, killing 49 and leaving more than 100 injured on Palm Sunday.
Last December, a squad of terrorist gunmen attacked the Mar Mina church in southern Cairo, killing between eight and ten people and wounding at least five more.
“Christians in Egypt face a barrage of discrimination and intimidation yet they refuse to give up their faith. It is hard for us…to imagine being defined by our religion every single day in every sphere of life,” Open Doors UK and Ireland CEO Lisa Pearce said in a statement.
“In Egypt, as in many other Middle Eastern countries, your religion is stated on your identity card,” she said. “This makes discrimination and persecution easy — you are overlooked for jobs, planning permits are hard to obtain and you are a target when you go to church.”…..
R Russell says
Father forgive them they know not what they do.
There are large numbers of Muslims in the Middle East converting to Christianity.
Tertullian said, “The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church”.
abu salma says
large numbers of Muslims converting to Christianity in the middle east is a myth. There is no evidence or data to support it.
St. Manuel II Palailogos says
You haven’t looked. Many Muslims are also becoming atheists.
gravenimage says
Actually, there are quite a few Muslims leaving Islam.
“CHRISTIAN CONVERSION: Wave of Muslims in Middle East turning to Christ after violence”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/752551/Muslim-Christian-convert-Islam-church-Iran-Europe-religion
I wish there were more, though.
b.a. freeman says
and “no evidence or data to support it” would be because if a muslim converts to *any* other religion, he will be killed, and nobody will do anything about it. would U let people know if U were in their position?
that said, there is quite likely to be very little data on conversion rates. this means that we must look to another source. one possible source is the conversion rate of muslim refugees to christianity in eurabia. there, the churches have been virtually empty for decades as the leftist indoctrination centers did their best to destroy belief in Jesus as God, but many are now growing because of muslims converting to christianity. of course, many of these conversions are probably due to an attempt to impress eurabian governments that they are changed men who are now willing to assimilate into the local population, but many of them may be legitimate. sadly, most State churches in eurabia, being run by nominal leftists, do not keep any statistics on the former religion of converts, most likely because it would not be PC to do so.
regardless of the data, however, as St. Manuel II Palailogos says, they are also converting to atheism and agnosticism. so long as muslims are affected by western values and abandon their vile cult for *anything* else, it is a Good Thing.
gravenimage says
Agreed. Muslims leaving Islam for anything else is good.
ronyvo says
abu salam: evidence??? And in Islamic country?!! You’re kidding. Actually, it is easy to find out the numbers of the Copts from reliable sources (not the Muslim government) the Churches which are required to keep records of the new born, baptism, marriage & death. A Coptic source (of course) searched on this basis and came to the figure of 25%. YES, 25% Copts in Egypt. One of the reasons of burning down churches is to eliminate this evidence.
Lydia Church says
Yes.
And no matter what laws they make and the persecution, we WILL do the right thing according to our Christian faith… ANYWAY!
Funny how it is in muslim countries where Christians are persecuted the most, apart from North Korea and a few isolated exceptions like that!
So much for “tolerance” in islam!
Mamo says
Somalia,Iran,in future Europe too.
RichardL says
to really understand the horrors that Christians face in countries like Egypt one has to have lived there. Even when one is not subjected to a severe form of discrimination it is the endless daily mistreatment that is so terrible. The hopelessness of going to police or a court to get justice adds a sense of helplessness to daily live that one must have experienced.
If Christians weren’t more diligent and intelligent and therefore are over-represented in the entrepreneurial and professional classes life would be unbearable. Christians use Christian doctors and Christian schools, make business deals among each and protect each other as good as is possible.
abu salma says
the same type of persecution Muslims faced in occupied Palestine. Arab Muslims are also discriminated in Israel. This is one of the many reasons Christians are mistreated unfortunately.
pragmatist says
Rubbish!
abu salma says
problem is you guys have no real argument against Islam or Muslims – there are counter rebuttals to all of what you have, but you have nor heard from both sides of the argument.
StellaSaidSo says
Muslims are treated better in Israel than they are in most Islamic countries. They have voting rights, better living conditions, and they have a longer life expectancy. But they wouldn’t be Muslims if they couldn’t find something to whine about, would they?
abu salma says
well you are not denying the open discrimination against Muslims, rather you are saying, it is a tad bit better than Christian plight. Here is an example of Judeo/Christian persecution of Muslims:
– https://www.amnestyusa.org/pdf/mde150272009en.pdf
– choking wall to cage them like animals.
– life in refugee camps.
Christians are just as much terrorists as much as Muslims. Both are engaging in religious persecution against each other.
christianblood says
abu salma posted
(..Christians are just as much terrorists as much as Muslims. Both are engaging in religious persecution against each other..)
Lies! There is one religious group that is persecuting all other religious groups all around the globe and that is muslims.
gravenimage says
The dishonest abu salma wrote:
Christians are just as much terrorists as much as Muslims. Both are engaging in religious persecution against each other.
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*Really*? Then why do you have Muslims flooding into the Christian West, but Christians fleeing the Muslim world?
I guess the ludicrously self-styled abu salma figures if a lie is outrageous enough that no one will challenge it.
gravenimage says
The appalling abu salma wrote:
the same type of persecution Muslims faced in occupied Palestine. Arab Muslims are also discriminated in Israel.
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What abu salma means is that Muslims are not allowed to wage violent Jihad in Israel, which he considers “discrimination”. *Ugh*.
In fact, Muslims have full equal rights in Israel. This is not true for any non-Muslims in the Islamic world.
More:
This is one of the many reasons Christians are mistreated unfortunately.
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First, abu salma’s condoning Christians being murdered in the Muslim world because of the existence of Israel is just a sickening idea.
And then, it is also a lie. Christians have been persecuted and slaughtered in the Muslim world for centuries. They have almost entirely been wiped out in Turkey, Iraq, the “Palestinian” territories, and many other places.
More:
problem is you guys have no real argument against Islam or Muslims – there are counter rebuttals to all of what you have, but you have nor heard from both sides of the argument.
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The idea that we have no argument against being oppressed, raped, and butchered under Islam *is just grotesque*. But this is, of course, mainstream Islam.
As for the idea that we have not heard both sides of the argument, this is of course untrue. We have heard ad nauseum from pious Muslims that Christians and other Infidels have no right to live except as threatened dhimmis.
It is not that we have never heard this argument; it is that we *reject it*.
b.a. freeman says
well put, gravenimage!!!
+1
carpediadem says
Positively lucent, gravenimage! 🙂
gravenimage says
Thank you, b.a. freeman and carpediadem.
George Joseph says
Hey Abu,
You take the entire world of kafirs for fools. You blame the Palestinian issue for terrorism and discrimination against Christians, eh? Stupid fool, don’t you know that Muslims are terrorising Hindus, Buddhists, Zoarashtrians, and Sikhs too? What wrong did they do to Muslims?
Indians divided their country and gave away 30 per cent of the territory to Muslims to create Pakistan. Do they at least now allow Hindus to live in peace? No such luck. There are almost daily killing of Hindus in India by Muslims.
You blame terrorism on everyone except Muslims, Islam, Koran, the Hadith and Muhammad, where it justifiably belongs. Pig-headed fool.
You may fool the westerners with your idiotic claims but you should know that there are other innocent victims of terrorism in this forum who know better.
What have India, the Philippines, China, Russia, Kenya, Tanzania and scores of other countries got to do with the Palestinian issue? Your Muslim brothers are killing innocents in all these countries. You have your head in your a*** just like Muhammad.
Maryam says
There already is a Palestinian country and it is called Jordan.
carpediadem says
Whose entire landmass was thieved from the Mandatory Jewish Palestine by the British and given away to the Hashemites.
The Palis don’t deserve that one either.
Elliot says
Arab Muslims vote are elected to Parliament have the highest life rates in re Arab world can become doctors MPs lawyers, anything in Israel. Have equal rights as any Jew or Christian. Etc etc.
Can u say the same for Jews ( or Christians ) in ‘ Palestine’
No u can’t.
Ur a pathetic jewhate liar who promulgates the usual Judeochristian hate for ‘unbelivers’
Piss OFF racist jewhaters. Get back to ur jewhate islamfascism State. Uve got dozens to rot in
LeftisruiningCanada says
abu, it’s nothing like the same thing whatsoever.
Tell me this; when was the last time a Christian blew him or her self up in a muslim tea shop, or attacked a mosque with some buddies and ak47s?
That;s why there are border checks in Israel. Have you been paying attention? Have you noticed how many LESS attacks there are in Jerusalem these days?
There’s your answer.
And to say that muslims only mistreat Christians because some other muslims far away are prevented from attacking Jews is incredibly stupid. But of course, to a muslim like this, he is always the victim of other people’s irrational behavior. HE never does anything wrong. His actions never have consequences.
Like a true narcissist, like mohmammad was, he can’t see past the end of his own perfect nose.
christianblood says
(..Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Palestinian territories are among most dangerous places on earth for Christians..)
Before the so-called, Western-backed “Arab Spring” islamist revolutions, Egypt and Syria were comparatively safer for Christians than many other Arab countries. In fact, Syria was the safest country in all the Arab countries for Christians, atheists and other religious minorities at the time, but all that changed after the so-called Western-backed “Arab Spring” which was nothing but islamist revolutions. The situation of Egyptian Christians also got far worse After the US-backed “muslim brotherhood” revolution there which was led by mohamed mursi. Today, in Syria, where the Saudi and US-backed jihadist “rebels” control there is basically NO Christian presence as most Christians in those area are either murdered or had to flee to government-controlled area, like the Damascus where Christians are safe from the murderous jihadist “rebels” backed by Saudi Arabia and the West.
Like wise, Before the US invasion, Iraq, like Syria was also extremely safe for Christians and they thrived in business and academia and all the major professional sectors, numbering about 1.6 million. All that changed after the US invasion and the resulting birth of ISIS and Al-qaeda and other jihadist groups in Iraq and today only a few thousands remain scattered among the refugee camps and planning to leave.
Iraqi Christians are basically decimated after the US invasion and for the first time in 1800 years there was NO Christian mass celebrated in Iraqi Churches in 2014-2016! Thank God, the majority of Syrian Christians are still safe in government-controlled areas of Syria where they just celebrated Christmas a few weeks ago. Please watch them on the link below celebrating Christmas in Damascus recently and watch the video clip there:
http://russia-insider.com/en/russia-returns-christmas-syria-christians-worship-safe-islamist-terror/ri22136
abu salma says
Christians support Bashar Assad, which is worse than terrorism. Assad is guilty of mass murder of his own people. This shows that Christians engage in terrorism worse than ISIS, but it goes under a different name. That is why I believe Muslims are more peaceful.
StellaSaidSo says
Yeah, sure Muslims are ‘more peaceful’. They’ve only committed 32,388 deadly terror attacks since 9/11.
abu salma says
hey, not bad! first off, that is a fabricated number. But, even if true, that number is low compared to hiroshama and nagasaki – worlds greatest terrorist attack which were perpetrated on purely innocent people. OF course, we could have dropped those bombs on an empty farm fields and inched our way closer to Hiroshama, but no. Innocents must die.
But going back to the deadly terrorist attacks, the only reason why there is terrorism – is because those people lack an air force, navy or smart bombs which could even remotely compete with today’s weapons. therefore terrorism is the only viable option for them. so that number proves lack of technology.
StellaSaidSo says
abu salma, the figure quoted is not a ‘fabrication’; meticulous records are kept by JW and others. The number of casualties grows daily.
In case you didn’t know, the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki occurred during WWII, not in peacetime. During both WWI and WWII, hundreds of thousands of civilians on both sides of the conflicts died as a result of enemy bombs.
The only reason why there is Islamic terrorism is ISLAM. Nothing to do with who has what technology. For 1400 years, Islam has been at war with anyone who wasn’t a Muslim. ‘I have been made victorious through terror’ the evil paedophile rapist murderer Mohammed boasted. More than 270 million people have died as a result of Islam’s homicidal hatred. That’s a record that has not been topped by anyone. You should feel very proud.
I recommend that you read some books on history. But read the Koran first. The fact that you made the absurd claim that Islamic terrorism is due to lack of modern technology – as if Islamic terrorism was a recent phenomenon – when your own ‘holy’ text makes it very plain that Islam has always been about terror, reveals both ignorance and stupidity in generous measure.
abu salma says
we are NOT at peace, we are at WAR. Osama Bin Laden declared war. ISIS declared war. But who cares? how does deliberately killing innocent in war justified? You have exposed yourself as a terrorist! You justify killing innocent people.
Which goes back to what people already believe – Christians are no more peaceful than Muslims.
regarding pedofilia, The Bible teaches Jesus CHrist ordered little girls to be sexually molested. The Bible also teaches to rape women to punish them. You may watch the debate video exposing your pedofile christ: https://youtu.be/uoRtGkL9U5c
YOu did not present any intelligent argument regarding terrorism only proves lack of technology.
another fabricated number: 270 million people have died .
killing innocent people is a proud judeo Christian tradition, which stems from what Lucifer wrote in the Bible:
1 Sam 15:3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'”
Quran came 600 years later and corrected this evil – and taught that innocent people should not be targetted. Here is the Surah 4:91 “spot check” on who you can and can NOT kill:
1. So if they do not withdraw from you
2. or offer you peace
3. or restrain their hands,
then seize them and kill them wherever you overtake them. And those – We have made for you against them a clear authorization. https://quran.com/4/91
Regarding offensive wars against non-believers, Robert Spencer was confronted in debate and admitted that jihad was waged to protect non-believers from others who were persecuting them. I can share that with you if you like.
StellaSaidSo says
abu salma, you continue to make a fool of yourself.
If you think that anything I said justified the killing of innocents, you have a serious problem with reading comprehension.
You can forget about the Bible quotes. Christians don’t live by the OT. But Muslims live by the Koran, which incites hatred and exhorts Muslims to kill, and condones not only murder but paedophilia, rape, wife-beating, FGM, theft, deception, bestiality, and necrophilia.
I addressed your silly assertion that terrorism is due to lack of modern technology by pointing out that terrorism is not a new phenomenon, having been a central feature of Islam for 1400 years.
As for your assertion that ‘Christians are no more peaceful than Muslims’, I draw your attention again to the figure of 32,388 terrorist attacks committed by Muslims since 9/11.
The figure of 270 million slaughtered by Muslims is well-documented, and compiled from largely Muslim sources. Again, I encourage you to read some history.
In none of your posts to this site have I seen any evidence that you are capable of intelligent debate, so I will waste no further time indulging your stupidities.
abu salma says
debate over:
Here is the Surah 4:91 “spot check” on who you can and can NOT kill:
1. So if they do not withdraw from you
2. or offer you peace
3. or restrain their hands,
then seize them and kill them wherever you overtake them. And those – We have made for you against them a clear authorization. https://quran.com/4/91
LeftisruiningCanada says
Abu said:
“regarding pedofilia, The Bible teaches Jesus CHrist ordered little girls to be sexually molested. The Bible also teaches to rape women to punish them. You may watch the debate video exposing your pedofile christ: https://youtu.be/uoRtGkL9U5c”
Like another muslim on here who tries to engage in what he thinks is reasonable discussion, you fail to understand the point of providing links to support your statements.
Instead of offering primary sources, or even direct statements, you direct us to watch a 1.5 hour long ‘debate’, asking us to spend all that time waiting for them to bring up your one point.
Why don’t you just write your point out? Is it that hard for you to citing where Jesus said to molest little girls, if you really believe He said that?
Of course, Christ said nothing like that. You know this, which is why you try to hide behind length debates by other people, hoping that we won’t bother to watch it (which frankly most of us don’t have time to do) or that you will avoid being called on a false claim because you’ll let someone else state it for you.
Pathetic.
It shows how empty your beliefs are every time you resort to such lies and obfuscation. It shows even more how little love of truth you have.
christianblood says
abu salma posted
(..Christians support Bashar Assad, which is worse than terrorism. Assad is guilty of mass murder of his own people..)
Abu salma is reading from US, Saudi and Western propaganda script, you see that kind of talk in US, Western and Saudi-islamists media. (Assad must go, Assad is killing his own people, bla, bla, bla!).
No. Assad is fighting with hundreds of thousands of murderous Takfiri, Wahhabi jihadist mercenaries like (ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Ahrarul-Sham, Al-Nusra, Jundul Islam and many dozens of other jihadist groups supported, armed, funded and backed by the US, Nato, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Turkey, Arab gulf states and others. And Christians have to support him or else they will be wiped out by the US and Saudi-backed barbarous jihadists.
abu salma says
oh ok, so america and saudi arabia are evil?
here are some FACTS to expose your born again terror:
Russia declared Syria to be a holy war:
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2015/1123/Is-Russia-s-intervention-in-Syria-a-holy-war-Russian-Orthodox-Church-yes
syrian christians supporting assad:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-tolerant-dictator-syria-s-christians-side-with-assad-out-of-fear-a-800450.html (they are all terrorists just like ISIS)
St. Manuel II Palailogos says
LOL Here we go with the propaganda against Syria. Fighting terrorism=killing own people.
gravenimage says
abu salma wrote:
Christians support Bashar Assad, which is worse than terrorism. Assad is guilty of mass murder of his own people. This shows that Christians engage in terrorism worse than ISIS, but it goes under a different name. That is why I believe Muslims are more peaceful.
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Let’s parse this, shall we? abu salma is saying that Christians are more violent than Muslims because they support a violent Muslim. Even if you take this at face value, it makes no sense.
But then, the reasons threatened Christians in Syria generally support Assad is because he is less likely to murder them outright than are other factions.
He even cites an article later that confirms that Christians are just supporting him because they are even more frightened of the other Jihad groups in the area. *This* is what abu salma is pretending is violent–a fear of being mass slaughtered.
So abu salma is saying that Christians are violent for not wanting to be slaughtered. *Good God*.
Actually, other Muslims have made the claim that if Christians were really peaceful that they would *welcome* Muslims raping and murdering them.
More, in reply to StellaSaidSo:
hey, not bad! first off, that is a fabricated number.
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What evidence does abu salma have that the number complied by the Religion of Peace is incorrect? Of course, he offers nothing.
Here is the Religion of Peace site’s meticulous methodology:
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30
More:
But, even if true, that number is low compared to hiroshama and nagasaki – worlds greatest terrorist attack which were perpetrated on purely innocent people. OF course, we could have dropped those bombs on an empty farm fields and inched our way closer to Hiroshama, but no. Innocents must die.
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Firstly, he is pretending that those Jihad terror attacks did not generally have more than one victim. Nice try…
As for the Second World War, he hopes we won’t remember that Japan *attacked us*, and that we were defending against them. And of course Japan would not have surrendered if the bombs had been dropped in empty fields–Japan did not even surrender after the first bomb was dropped as it was.
His implication that it would have been better if we had let Fascism take over the world is, of course, just sickening. But what this is *really* intended to do is to impose unearned guilt on the West, in the hope that we will let violent Muslims roll over us.
More:
But going back to the deadly terrorist attacks, the only reason why there is terrorism – is because those people lack an air force, navy or smart bombs which could even remotely compete with today’s weapons. therefore terrorism is the only viable option for them. so that number proves lack of technology.
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Look what the vicious abu salma–which, ludicrously, means “father of peace”–is saying here. That if only Muslims had deadly enough armaments, they would not have to resort to terrorism to achieve their goals.
But what are their goals? The destruction of Israel and conquest of the West. Obviously, the vile abu salma sympathizes with these savage goals, and just laments that his fellow Jihadists have not been able to steal enough Western technology to be able to kill Infidels more efficiently. *Ugh*.
More:
we are NOT at peace, we are at WAR. Osama Bin Laden declared war. ISIS declared war. But who cares?
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Actually, Islam declared war on the “filthy Infidels” 1400 years ago. But “abu salma” demands that we ignore this…
More:
how does deliberately killing innocent in war justified? You have exposed yourself as a terrorist! You justify killing innocent people.
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Talk about projection! “abu salma” himself was jut lamenting that his fellow Muslims were not about to murder Infidels more efficiently and in greater numbers. *Ugh*.
More:
Which goes back to what people already believe – Christians are no more peaceful than Muslims.
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The Muslim “Prophet”–the “perfect man” of Islam–himself raped, enslaved, and mass slaughtered Infidels. The Qur’an is full of exhortations to butcher Infidels if they do not submit to Islam.
There is *nothing* like this in Christianity, and Jesus did not rape, enslave, or murder anyone.
What “abu salma” is really demanding is that we do not defend against Muslims murdering us–and that if we do, we are no better than Muslims Just sick.
More:
regarding pedofilia, The Bible teaches Jesus CHrist ordered little girls to be sexually molested. The Bible also teaches to rape women to punish them. You may watch the debate video exposing your pedofile christ
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What *absolute bs*. Verses, please. Of course, “abu salma” will not provide any.
But there is ample proof *in Islamic texts* that the “Prophet” Muhammed married a 6-year-old and raped her at 9; that he regularly raped captives and even chided his thuggish companions for *not* doing so; and that Islam allows the keeping of female victims as sex slaves.
There is *nothing* like this in Christianity. Will he condemn his pedophilic and rapist “Prophet”? Don’t hold your breath…
More:
YOu did not present any intelligent argument regarding terrorism only proves lack of technology.
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Again, “abu salma” is just wringing his hands that his coreligionists are not able to conquer us more easily. He never questions whether Muslims have the right to do so. *Ugh*.
More:
another fabricated number: 270 million people have died .
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Again, “abu salma” does not come up with a different methodology for another number–he does not even bother to pull another number out of his *ss. Very telling.
Of course, no Jew or Christian is killing in the name of samuel 15:3, which refers to a people who lived thousands of years ago.
Muslims regularly cite the Qur’an and the other texts of Islam while butchering unbelievers today, though–something “abu salma” has already said he agrees with.
More:
Quran came 600 years later and corrected this evil – and taught that innocent people should not be targetted. Here is the Surah 4:91 “spot check” on who you can and can NOT kill:
1. So if they do not withdraw from you
2. or offer you peace
3. or restrain their hands,
then seize them and kill them wherever you overtake them. And those – We have made for you against them a clear authorization. https://quran.com/4/91
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Actually, Qur’an 4:91 *urges* Muslims to slaughter unbelievers:
“You will find others who wish to obtain security from you and [to] obtain security from their people. Every time they are returned to [the influence of] disbelief, they fall back into it. So if they do not withdraw from you or offer you peace or restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you overtake them. And those – We have made for you against them a clear authorization.”
More:
Regarding offensive wars against non-believers, Robert Spencer was confronted in debate and admitted that jihad was waged to protect non-believers from others who were persecuting them. I can share that with you if you like.
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*Really*? Muslims wage violent Jihad to protect the “filthy Infidels” from other Kuffar? Okey Dokey…sarc/off
Really, Muslim apologists like “abu salma” just reveal how appalling Islam really is.
b.a. freeman says
both quran 4:90 and 4:91 have been abrogated by quran 9:5. learn your own religion if U’re going to do apologetics, abu. GIYF
Maryam says
Abu Salma stop trolling this website and go play with your jihadi buddies.
Elliot says
And millions of Muslims support Assad and his slaughtering of half a million Muslims and Christians INCLUDING so- called ‘Palestinians.’
Where is ur outrage. Where is ur BDS oh that’s right. No Jews involved so nothing to see here. Move along
Your Muslim Assad is slaughtering his people ably supported by HIZBALLAH and fascist terrorist IRAN. any concern for them. And don’t forget the THOUSANDS OF ‘PALESTINANS’ he has slaughtered. Why u so silent all of a sudden???
Jews and Christians are equal with Muslims in Israel. Jews and Christians are treated as dhimmi in dozens of Muslim countries. It’s called APARTHEID sweetie.
Necrophage says
Except that there is NO evidence that Assad DID slaughter his own people, only innuendo. And it’s not apartheid. It’s survival.
But then you don’t believe that Israel has a right to exist.
Careful. Your nazi is showing.
LeftisruiningCanada says
You know, if the Assad family dictatorship was the only thing standing between my family and the rise of muslim violence against them, i might have ‘supported Assad’ too.
But then, there’s no reason to assume that Christians actually supported everything the regime ever did. I know for a fact that his extensive secret police network was not liked by Christians, because it spied on them just as badly and pervasively as anyone else.
But, when you’re Christians living in a small village surrounded by muslim villages, it would be hard not to support to some extent anyone who would keep order.
We don’t really appreciate the situations many people have to live in.
gravenimage says
Spot on.
gravenimage says
Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Palestinian territories are among most dangerous places on earth for Christians
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Horrible. Christians face full genocide in these places.
And note the Taqiyya involved here, as well–many in the West believe that Egypt and Jordan are “moderate” Muslim countries, and the Muslim “Palestinians” are always pressuring Christians under their heel to claim that the threat they face is from civilized Israel, and not from Muslims themselves. *Ugh*.
Elliot says
No evidence. Are u mad. Hundred if thousands bombed gassed slaughtered. And u defend that monster?
Who’s the Nazi now u ignorant racist fool