This is nonsense, of course. They were being held there under the same circumstances long before President Trump took office. But as we have seen many times over the years, jihadis in the West have a keen ability to exploit the flash points of American culture, finding ways to articulate their agenda that will resonate the Left and get them help from the such quarters. And it has worked quite well many times.
On the other hand, 121 former Guantánamo detainees have returned to the jihad. This is perfectly understandable, since at Guantánamo absolutely no effort was made to disabuse them of their jihadist sentiments, and the book that inspired their motivating ideology more than any other, the Qur’an, was treated by guards with exaggerated respect, reinforcing to the inmates the idea that even their captors had submitted and knew the truth of Islam. So how many more much be sent now to reinforce the ranks of al-Qaeda and the Taliban?
“Guantánamo inmates claim Trump’s ‘anti-Muslim bias’ fuels their detention,” by Ed Pilkington, Guardian, January 11, 2018:
Eleven Guantánamo inmates are challenging their indefinite detention in the US military camp in Cuba on grounds that Donald Trump’s defiant pledge to keep all remaining detainees permanently locked up is fuelled by hostility towards Muslims.
The inmate’s petition, filed on Thursday in a federal court in Washington, falls on the 16th anniversary of the arrival of the first 20 detainees to Guantánamo. The prisoners were brought in shackles from Afghanistan on 11 January 2002 dressed in distinctive orange jumpsuits.
Some of the petitioners in the new filing have themselves been held on the Cuban base almost since the beginning; others have been detained for 10 years. None of them has ever been charged, and all know that unless the courts intervene they could remain in their cells until they die.
In a memorable phrase, they say that “the aura of forever hangs heavier than ever”.
At the heart of the legal petition is the claim that President Trump has taken a radically new approach towards the treatment of the 41 prisoners who remain at Guantánamo. The inmates argue that his stance is defiant in spirit, arbitrary in nature, and fueled by his “suspicion and antipathy” towards Muslims.
The petitioners quote medical experts who have compared the prolonged indefinite imprisonment at Guantánamo to sensory deprivation and psychological torture. “Prisoners are medicated for depression and anxiety brought on by acute despair.”
The inmates are basing their challenge on two legal points. They claim that indiscriminate indefinite detention is illegal under the due process clause of the US constitution.
The second argument is that the justification for never-ending detention under the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) was that it was needed to prevent committed enemies of the US returning to the battlefield. But the petitioners claim that justification has begun to unravel.
On the campaign trail Trump said of Guantánamo that he would “load it up with some bad dudes”.
Shortly before his inauguration he pledged in a tweet to block any further releases on grounds that all the 41 were “extremely dangerous people”.
That threat has come to pass. Pardiss Kebriaei, a lawyer with the Center for Constitutional Rights who represents one of the petitioners, Sharqawi Al Hajj of Yemen, who has been detained for 15 years, said that all moves towards release have ground to a halt since Trump came in.
“There’s nothing happening. It’s an entirely static situation, and that kind of indefinite detention without charge is intolerable, it cannot be allowed to continue,” she said.
Protesters with Witness Against Torture participate in a rally at the supreme court in Washington on 11 January 2017, calling for the closure of the Guantánamo Bay prison.Two of the petitioners, Toufiq al-Bihani and Abdul Latif Nasser, have officially been cleared for transfer out of Guantánamo. Bihani, who has been in the camp for almost 15 years having been arrested in Iran on suspicion of having al-Qaida ties, has been held for a full seven years after the US government decided he could leave.
Nasser was approved to be sent to his native Morocco in July 2016 and was all set to travel until procedural hiccups prevented the move in the last days of the Obama administration. The inmates argue that since Trump came to office there has been “open hostility to transferring any detainees.
Trump’s approach stands in sharp contrast to either of his predecessors. Though George W Bush was instrumental in setting up the extrajudicial nature of the military detention system, in the end he released 539 of the 780 prisoners.
Obama went on to transfer 201 prisoners out of the base. Despite his declared intent to shut down the camp, Obama was ultimately frustrated in the ambition, not least by Republican opposition in Congress to transferring inmates to the US….
LeftisruiningCanada says
“they say that “the aura of forever hangs heavier than ever”.”
I’ll bet it does.
They know that their jihad buddies are out there in Dar Al Harb having a great old time slaying the unbelievers wherever they find them, and they want in on the fun.
Please don’t let any of them our. They’ll only come to the Canada begging compensation money, which when justin gives it to them they’ll just use to fund more inventive ways to kill people.
J D S says
Trumps hostility towards Muslims??? Why I wonder would anyone have hostility towards Muslims?
I don’t see Protestants, Catholics, Jews, Hindus or any other group out there trying to set the world on fire, so to speak.
When, those who claim that the bad Muslims are the ones who are doing all the harm, fill the streets protesting the atrocities that Islam prescribes in the koran and other teachings, what hateful speech their imams preach, revision of their book of hate give their women the same rights as menand so many more hateful aspects of islam…then and only then
Will the world see Islam in a different light.
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StellaSaidSo says
And their ‘anti-kuffar’ bias does not fuel our destruction?
GITMO is too good for these savages.
Linde Barrera says
In my heart, I think it is wrong to keep anyone in prison without charging them with a crime. So I would charge these Islamic terrorists with murder and reckless endangerment and give each of them a sentence of 99 years with no chance of parole. I mean these POS killed almost 3,000 innocent people, so they deserve to serve 99 years with no parole.
In my opinion they should get a little culture every day too. Now I know music is haram in their Satanic creed but it shouldn’t be. So I would play them the recording of “If It Takes Forever I Will Wait For You” as sung by greats like Frank Sinatra, Andy Williams, Connie Francis, and others, and I would also have it translated into Arabic and sung by an Arabic speaking singer on a daily basis. This way, every day these demonic bastards would be reminded that they must serve 99 years.
CRUSADER says
Interesting concept of showing compassion with the hope of turning them and melting their hearts.
Sounds similar to what the book “Third Choice” (introduction by Bat Ye’or) says about getting close to one’s opponent, and in the process saving both the opposed and the opposer.
“….escape from the tyranny of evil and recover one’s freedom. Throughout this reflection on dhimmitude, the reader is confronted with the question of how to recognize evil, how to live with it while preserving one’s own moral probity, and how to overcome it by developing inner spiritual forces. And while drawing nearer to the oppressed, one also draws nearer to the oppressor, and may ask: can victims be healed if they do not go toward their oppressors and try to heal them also? Is this not the existential meaning of suffering, to bring about the healing of the world?”
Respected theologian Mark Durie wrote the book, “Third Choice” about making the choice of freedom over the vile destructiveness of rejection which Dhimmitude poses.
First choice is Islam.
Second choice is Dhimmitude.
Third choice is FREEDOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe there is hope for Muslims….
But it will be them who have to change.
gravenimage says
Certainly, these Jihadi thugs should not be getting Qur’ans, Halal food, and visits from Imams.
CRUSADER says
Why do they have any say anyway?
And why do they have any notion of what is going on with Trump in the news anyway?
Georg says
“the aura of forever hangs heavier than ever”
Untrue, it “hangs heavier” for the victims of 9/11 and multitude others we’ve lost to their hate. What does hang “heavier than ever” (at least metaphorically) is our Virtue being questioned by the diabolical as we remain silent. We’ve entered a time of reciprocity.
Sarah says
Ahh, Guantanamo Bay. The closest thing America has to a literal hole in the ground to lock the baddest of the bad in, so that they never see sunlight again.
Well, short of the alleged black site cell’s, to which I sincerely believe are still operating in a number of spots somewhere around the planet. (Hopefully they have one in the middle of the Nullabor, because God knows that’s a miserable hole of a place).
As far as I’m concerned, I love the idea. I don’t want these Jihadists in G-Bay to get the death penalty. Because that’s what they want. They think that martyrs them and that they’re off to rape their sex bots and virgins that Allah has promised them, for all eternity.
I want them alive, I want them living long, utterly miserable lives, rotting away in that hellhole.
They can shriek and moan all they damn well want. As far as I’m concerned, they are no longer human and are thus, not able to hide behind human rights and any other freedoms or rights given to the human race.
StellaSaidSo says
Actually, GITMO is a luxury hotel compared with the hell-holes that the jihadists consign their prisoners to.
GITMO provides halal food (and plenty of it – prisoners usually gain weight following their incarceration), permits religious observance, allows copies of the Koran, and provides medical care.
There are places where the ‘aura of forever’ hangs much heavier, and those places are not occupied by the perpetrators of the vile atrocities committed by savages.
I agree: that these vilest of savages have the audacity to whine about ‘denial’ of their ‘human rights’ is an outrage. They had no compunction in denying their victims any rights, including the right to live.
We owe them nothing. Charge, convict, sentence, despatch.
As Georg said, ‘We have entered a time of reciprocity’.
Manny says
That’s true. Gitmo is way better than the Sh**holes they come from.
There I used the word.
Georg says
To teach us a lesson in morality IS beheads and tortures prisoners dressed in orange. Never mind that many of those they grabbed are aid workers or hapless religious minorities as opposed to battle-hardened jihadists — and there’s hardly an outcry from enlightened, polite Westerners.
gravenimage says
Yes, Georg–what could be more perverse?
gravenimage says
True, Stella.
Manny says
Poor babies. Next time don’t go on Jihad in first place.
R Russell says
As usual they are trying to get us into a co-dependent relationship with the victimiser becoming the victim.
It works so often they are giving it another try.
Roland Dell says
Yeah sure, that sounds about right; using our political machine to benefit themselves. Our enemies are often smarter than our population, unfortunately!
gravenimage says
Muslims consider any kindness to weakness, and will exploit it.
gravenimage says
to be
Buraq says
Guantánamo inmates claim Trump’s ‘anti-Muslim bias’ fuels their detention
The Guantánamo inmates’ anti-mankind bias fuels their detention. Clowns!
gravenimage says
+1
Jack Holan says
Other than their Attornies, WHY are they allowed visitors period; especially Media, Authors etc. They’re enemy combatants in custody at best terrorists st worst. So why give them a platform to speak from since such a luxury would not be granted to our Men/Ewomen held captive. The linguists used is straight from the Leftists mouths. Shut it. Down!
Bodega says
The inmates at GITMO deserve no platform to iterate their woes or even so-called ideas of why they should be freed. They give no victim of their atrocities such choices.
I recommend stopping all placations to them such as has been described. I do think they should stand trial, be found guilty for their actions, sentenced to death and killed. It is too expensive to keep Gitmo open for killers such as these men with the chance these AHs will break free.
In my opinion jihadists are no longer human as we describe humane as a human condition. Why are we being so solicitous of such sub humans?
Roland Dell says
I really wish they had a “thumbs up” on this blog, this comment deserves one…
Dan says
And Odumba fueled their not being shot by now.
Since Mad Dog Mattis has reduced ISIS territory by over 98%, what’s the point of keeping these jerks alive anyway?
And while they’re at it?
Omhar Khadr escaped justice as far as MOST Canadians are concerned.
Wazza says
So you dumbturds are unhappy with Trump, hang on while I get a tissue
Didn’t have anything to do with being a terrorist by chance?
Politicianophobia says
When will Keith Ellison, a brotherhood boy, be ask to step down? When will the Muslim Brotherhood be asked to exit the USA? When will all the Imams preaching kill, kill, kill be deported, perhaps when it is too late.
Steve says
Where Muslims are concerned, it is a simple, basic, fundamental fact that the contents and teachings of the Quran is non negotiable. They see it as the ‘word of God’. Therefore they ain’t gonna change!!
If it’s in the Quran, then they vehemently believe that the atrocities they are committing are Allah’s instructions to them, which they must carry out without question.The last 1,400 years and 270 million murders later has clearly and quite categorically demonstrated that ‘in all it’s ‘divine’ glory’!
If it was up to the majority of sensible, intelligent, educated, non PC, non Muslims, we would not allow any of them to live, breed and multiply among us. They are a virulently deceptive virus on humanity that is infecting the rest of the World wherever they go. And what’s more, their success is being aided and abetted by the ultra liberal self loathing lunatic left. Very much like those ultra rich ones in Hollywood and on CNN who spout their sanctimonious bile, and shed their crocodile tears at those who have no other choice but to live among these barbaric heathens. While they cosy up behind their gated mansions with their teams of security guards to safeguard them.
And now we have the criminal murderous heathens, who’ve been locked away in Guantánamo, being allowed to moan about the backlash that is happening against them. Something THEY are totally responsible for in the first place! Well tough!!
If I were Trump (peace on him) I’d stop them from being able to object to anything by cutting off all means of communication with the outside world. I would also remove all of their human rights too, as they gave up being human a long time ago!
I’d also round up their entire family members (probably averaging around 500 by the way they breed) and deport the lot of them, back to the s*******s they came from (oops mustn’t say that must we?). Now what a lovely deterrent that would be eh?
Ric says
Guantanamo Bay was the former president’s thorn in his sanctimonious and Jihadi apologist side. Now, America’s present President Trump is undoing the wrongs of the Jihadi ally, Obama.
One suspects Trump is not quaking at this criticism from those bent or having murdered Americans or others. The contrast between Trump and his predecessor is, President Trump recognizes the Karma effect on this Republic’s enemies while Obama has no cognizance or gives a damn of the cause and effect of Karma.
Leftist Progressivism that has beguiled this nation and other Western Democracies, especially under the duplicitous ally of Islam, Obama’s warm and fuzzy intent and dealing with the Muslim Brotherhood and the slipping under the sheets with Iran has only emboldened those, Jihadis and the Rogue States whose ultimate machination is the downfall of Western Civilization. The Pied Piper led America nearer to its end in tow with his besotted true-believers.
Trump is a leader while Obama was and continues his endeavor of creating Islamic Theocratic state of America. Guantanamo Bay must endure; one day, hopefully, Obama and his horde of leftist groupies will grasp the meaning of Karma.
Cheer Bear Girl says
I don’t care about the griping of Terrorists. Their religion calls for our subjugation which is something I don’t want.
Roland Dell says
Exactly right! It amazes me the continual twist which is perpetrated upon all truth nowadays!
gravenimage says
Guantánamo inmates claim Trump’s ‘anti-Muslim bias’ fuels their detention
………………….
More Jihadists claiming that being against Jihad is “anti-Muslim”. Quite telling, no?
LeftisruiningCanada says
uuum poor jihadi sad, he so hard done by those nasty wasty kaffirs, wocking him up away from aw his friends and explosive toys.
🙁
Roland Dell says
Exactly right! It amazes me the continual twist which is perpetrated upon all truth nowadays!
LeftisruiningCanada says
poor jihadi wants his religious freedom back so he can go kill filthy wilthy kaffirs.
Older Canadian says
I am surprised that trudeau has not condemned Trump for not being understanding of these “foreign world travellers”.
LeftisruiningCanada says
He’s more passive aggressive, so prefers to use our tax millions to suggest his disapproval.
Older Canadian says
Barbara, who are you screaming at?