Israel is regarded as a global leader in the fight against Islamic terrorism. Less well known is that the Jewish state has over the years contended with a major issue of regional migrants entering the country illegally and has successfully halted this infiltration to the point where not a single illegal entered in 2017, according to Israeli government statistics.
“From 2007-2012, about 61,000 illegals were able to infiltrate Israel,” yet this tiny nation has survived, despite being surrounded by mortal enemies that have sought its destruction since its birth.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has declared what should be obvious to every Western nation and be expected from citizens: that “every country has an obligation to protect its borders.”
While the West is now faced with border invasions, there is another parallel problem that Israel has long dealt with. America and Canada are now confronted with the Muslim Brotherhood Plan to “sabotage its miserable house” and conquer it; Israel, meanwhile, has been faced with documented charters to obliterate it:
- Hamas “strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine”, vowing that “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”
- According to the PLO Charter: “Israel is the instrument of the Zionist movement..a constant source of threat vis-a-vis peace in the Middle East and the whole world.” So therefore, justification is made to obliterate the Jewish state in the name of a warped view of peace and harmony. In fact, the PLO manifesto’s stated purpose is the for “liquidation of the Zionist presence”.
- The Fatah Charter describes “the Israeli existence in Palestine” as “a Zionist invasion.”
Compared with Israel, the West is lagging in dealing with issues of jihad threat and terror. What has now arrived to torment the West and usurp its democracy, Israel has been contending with for decades, and has earned its place as a model.
“How to Successfully Stop Illegal Immigration: Follow Israel’s Model”, by Aaron Klein, Breitbart, January 9, 2018:
EILAT, Israel – Israel is regarded as a global leader in the fight against Islamic terrorism. Less well known is that the Jewish state has over the years contended with a major issue of regional migrants entering the country illegally and has successfully halted this infiltration to the point where not a single illegal entered in 2017, according to Israeli government statistics.
“Every country has an obligation to protect its borders,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared last week while announcing new steps to deport illegal migrants currently residing in Israel. “Protecting the borders from illegal infiltration is both the right and the fundamental obligation of a sovereign country.”Here are Israel’s five primary methods of fighting illegal immigration.
1 – Build a barrier.
While most people are familiar with Israel’s West Bank security barrier, constructed to thwart terrorist infiltration, less well known is that Israel in 2013 completed a barrier that runs the length of the vast Israel-Egypt border to stem the flow of illegal African migrants entering the country. Upon completion of the barrier, the numbers of illegals crossing into the Jewish state slowed to a trickle and entirely stopped this past year.
From 2007-2012, about 61,000 illegals were able to infiltrate Israel, with most originating from Africa. The first half of 2012 saw 9,570 illegals enter Israel, but that number was slashed to only 34 the first six months after most of the barrier was constructed. 2015 brought with it 213 border breaches, prompting Israel to raise the height of the fence from 5 to 8 meters along a vulnerable stretch of the barrier. Israel’s Defense Ministry documented only 11 successful infiltration attempts in 2016. Israel says that not a single illegal migrant successfully infiltrated in 2017.
The Egypt-Israel barrier consists of warning systems, an electronic “smart” fence and information collection centers. Critically, Israel’s borders are patrolled by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).
The West Bank barrier is another successful model. Israel began construction of it in 2002 at the height of the second Palestinian intifada, or terrorist war of shootings and suicide bombings targeting Israeli civilians. That intifada was launched after PLO leader Yasser Arafat rejected an Israeli offer of a Palestinian state during U.S.-mediated negotiations in the summer of 2000.
Upon the completion of a significant continuous section of the security fence in 2003 and the implementation of security checkpoints, Israel saw a marked decrease in the number of suicide bombers able to penetrate Israeli cities.
About 95% of the barrier consists of a chain-link fence backed up by high-tech surveillance systems and IDF patrols and not the concrete barrier routinely shown by the news media. The concrete barriers are usually only located in areas where the wall intersects with Israeli communities and roads, including areas of previous Palestinian shooting attacks.
2 – Forcibly deport illegal immigrants.
The infiltration of illegal aliens brought with it rises in crime rates and impacted the security of Israeli cities, especially south Tel Aviv, where many residents complain of no longer feeling safe. According to UN statistics from 2013, some 77% of the Africans that infiltrated Israel are males between the ages of 18 and 35. Very few of the infiltrators are refugees fleeing persecution. Most are economic migrants looking for work. The illegal migrants were also opposed by Palestinians since they provided cheap labor and competed with Palestinians for some jobs.
Over the past year, 4,012 illegals voluntarily left Israel after security forces here started to step up deportation efforts. Last week, the Knesset approved the Infiltrator’s Bill, which allows the country to forcibly deport illegal infiltrators, with exceptions for children, the elderly, parents of dependent minors, those with refugee applications pending and victims of slavery or human trafficking.
3 – Provide incentives for illegals to leave on their own.
Israel has given notice to all illegals that they have 90 days to vacate. If the illegal migrants go willingly during that time period, they will be provided $3,500 and can depart to their home countries or to third countries. After the 90 day grace period, Israel has warned that illegals will be imprisoned or deported.
4 – Cut off all government funds.
Israel’s Knesset last month also advanced a bill to close the country’s Holot detention facility, where the Israeli government currently pays for food and housing for illegal infiltrators.
5 – Crack down on employers who hire illegals…..
RichardL says
Hungary has been doing quite well, too. The wall is made of barbed wire, but it worked well.
The German hard left wants to destroy Germany and will destroy more countries. They have started importing the families of the rapefugees. No matter what country they are from.
Andy says
The Immigration Debate | Adam Kokesh and Stefan Molyneux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ3Mqp5bQsg
CRUSADER says
Important to halt what could happen as shown in this BBC production: “Dirty War” about Jihadis striking our cities with Dirty Bombs….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poZXRUxlaqk
StellaSaidSo says
First you’ve got to want to fight it.
WESTPAC Spy says
I like the cut of your jib, Stella.
gravenimage says
True, Stella.
eagle says
President Trump needs to get rid of H.R. McMaster and find some one that is not a Muslim apologist. H.R. McMaster is another Obama hold over, this man should not be in government..
isabella says
You have to protect your borders
Andy says
You can say that again isabella, Secure borders helps to keep out snakes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULx9k2QkL94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okyZpwEXpkM
“There’s nothing Good in Islam” Robert spencer DESTROYS Islam & Sharia Law
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGNXuI1ur4M
Kay says
Yes, all of what Israel does. And then stop paying to kill our own babies. I’m sure if we stopped giving free rent etc. to illegal immigrants we could afford our own babies.
Johnny Cuyana says
Make Item-5 the TOP PRIORITY!
Item-5 above — Crack down on employers who hire illegals — is the PRIMARY driver for “attracting” law-breaking ILLEGALS into our sovereign territory. Removing/destroying this incentive will address the great majority of our ILLEGAL INVASION challenge.
In fact, ALREADY we have laws — that is, LAWS of the PEOPLE, primarily E-Verify — which enable this law enforcement approach to be initiated; where such could be and should be done, and, where NO additional legislation is required
Our downfallen immigration situation exists because we have permitted immoral and corrupt politicians — which are beholding primarily to the similarly immoral and corrupt Chamber of Commerce, which wants ONLY CHEAP LABOR, and, conversely, are not beholden so much to WE The People. Therefore, these existing laws are being ignored.
In view of this shortcoming, I support the following approach: in each state, prosecute and convict, vigorously in high profile cases, a few of these high-flying scofflaw corporations — that is, to the fullest extent, impose massive fines and prison time on their executives — and we will see a massive exodus of ILLEGALS; where, afterwards, there will be no need for 1000’s of such cases over years and years.
In the meantime, IMO, in view of this corrosive disregard for our laws, how could any sane and LEGAL citizen believe these lying politicians, i.e., that any NEW LAWS would be enforced to any greater degree; unless these new laws are really NOT THE LAWS OF THE PEOPLE? Most likely, again IMO, any new laws would be even more favorable to the immoral and corrupt profiteering corporations; where, as is evident by their actions, these lying politicians could NOT care less about the inalienable rights of the legal citizens?
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Fascist evil zionist state of Israel can serve as a model to mithraism christians Who worship the Satan (holy spirit) whose forces are evil Jews,because evil talmud says all other races are not human being Who shall not be allowed to mix with evil Jews. The irony is that the fascist evil zionist state even opposed migration of black Jews from Ethiopia and those who managed to Come are treated as second class citizens. Idiots !!
R Russell says
Ibrahim,
No matter how often you spout your lies, they will never turn into truth. Have you asked the Jesus found in the Bible – not anyone else by the same name – to reveal himself to you? Once you have been overwhelmed by the love of the Bible Jesus, you wont want to hate and spout lies any more.
https://muslimjourneytohope.com/
mike9a says
Born to hate. What a miserable life.
joanofark06 says
Ain’t that the truth! Ibrahim is sick with madness…I bet he prays to satan every night!
b.a. freeman says
evidence, please, ibrahim. repeating lies doesn’t count.
i suppose that the elections they have there are all fake, and the israeli arab citizens (mostly muslim, if i’m not mistaken) are actually fake. also, i guess every jew is actually an evil genius who is able to kill non-jews daily in secret with absolutely no evidence ever showing up in public. ever hear of occam’s razor?
finally, as R Russell says, look for Jesus; U’ll find love and solace there, not the racist hate and vitriol of islam.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
BA. Freeman, It is Jews Who are known for racism and hate. Read obnoxious evil Talmud in Baba Mezia, 1146,which states thus :
“The Jews are called human beings, but the non-jews are not humans.They are beasts “.
In Talmud Bammidbar Raba c 21and Jalkut 772,it is stated thus :
“Every jew, Who spills the blood of Godless non-jew, is doing the same thing as making a sacrifice to God ”
Note :Talmud, preserved in “Hesronot “,is the holiest jewish religious book and practiced by Jews today as It constitutes state grundnorm of fascist evil zionist state of Israel.
WESTPAC Spy says
Romans 12:20 20On the contrary: “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, YOU WILL HEAP BURNING COALS ON HIS HEAD.”
Dude, I no longer believe you are who you claim you are. You’re too much of a cartoon character. But I offered up a prayer, just in case. As I do in the case of IS fighters.
But if I’m wrong know that you can count on me for a cool drink of water or something to eat.
gravenimage says
WESTPAC Spy, his Facebook page is much the same.
He is from norther Nigeria, where his fellow Mohammedans are kidnapping, raping, and slaughtering Christians and other Infidels.
gravenimage says
northern
Andy says
To: Ibrahim itace muhammed
You have been brainwashed, You just spew hate all the time. I have never seen you write in any logical way. It is just a mantra of hate, hate, hate..
I think you really need professional help! Please get help. Make a appointment!
P.S. Please bring your religion of peace with you. I think the doctor will prescribe emergency surgery!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Satan (holy spirit )worshiper Gravenimage, i have been informing you that my parents Who are Arabs from middleast acquired Nigerian citizenship by naturalisation. what is wrong with blacks ? we, Arab muslims, consider them as equal human beings as taught by prophet muhammad ,unlike your mithraist Bible which says blacks are cursed race.
Andy says
To:Ibrahim itace muhammed
Please have an open heart and watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI24GM28QLs
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Satan (holy spirit )worshiper Gravenimage, i have been informing you that my parents Who are Arabs from middleast acquired Nigerian citizenship by naturalisation. what is wrong with blacks ?
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Muslims regularly enslave Black people in Sudan, Mauritania, and now in Libya, as Ibrahim itace muhammed well knows.
Blacks are being sold at open slave auctions in Libya *today*. Ibrahim itace muhammed has never said anything in criticism of this.
He has, in fact, many times affirmed that Muslims can enslave Infidels.
More:
we, Arab muslims, consider them as equal human beings as taught by prophet muhammad ,unlike your mithraist Bible which says blacks are cursed race.
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The Bible is not “mithraist”, and there is, of course, no such verse.
The truth is that it was Christian nations that *abolished* slavery. Of course, Islam has never abolished slavery. In fact, Ibrahim itace muhammed’s fellow Nigerian Muslims kidnapped Infidel girls to rape and use as sex slaves.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Satan (holy spirit) worshiper Gravenimage, my parents Who are Arabs from the middleast acquired Nigerian citizenship by naturalisation and mix with blacks because we, the Arab muslims, are not racists as We are guided by teachings of prophet muhammad Who loved blacks,unlike you Who consider blackman as a cursed race according to mithraist Bible. my Sister is currently married to a blackman from minority tribe in Northern Nigeria Who are mostly christians(though her husband is a muslim).
gravenimage says
You can always tell when someone has gotten under Ibrahim itace muhammed’s skin, because he just spams the thread with multiple virtually identical posts.
CRUSADER says
Itace
Irritates
eduardo odraude says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxj41M-xwa0
Champ says
How does it feel being the class-clown-from-hell?
gravenimage says
🙂
gravenimage says
I was actually involved–in a very small way–with the rescue of “Falasha” Jews from Ethiopia in the late 1970s. Still proud of that.
Andy says
God Bless you gravenimage
gravenimage says
🙂
gravenimage says
The appalling Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Fascist evil zionist state of Israel can serve as a model to mithraism christians Who worship the Satan (holy spirit) whose forces are evil Jews,because evil talmud says all other races are not human being Who shall not be allowed to mix with evil Jews.
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What a load of tripe. In fact, Israel is the only nation in the Middle East that has democracy and equal rights.
More:
The irony is that the fascist evil zionist state even opposed migration of black Jews from Ethiopia and those who managed to Come are treated as second class citizens. Idiots !!
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“Managed to come”? In fact, it was Israel that organized a series of airlifts for Ethiopian Jews in the 1980s and ’90s. The idea that they somehow just turned up in Israel is claptrap.
Moreover, one of my editors at university had spent time in Israel helping Ethiopian and Yemeni Jews learn to negotiate their way around modern Israel. She was part of a number of groups organized to help out.
More:
BA. Freeman, It is Jews Who are known for racism and hate.
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Well, that is just bizarre. Ibrahim itace muhammed *himself* has said that he looks forward to taking part in the genocide of the Jews. I suppose he does not consider *that* to be hate, though…
More:
Read obnoxious evil Talmud in Baba Mezia, 1146,which states thus :
“The Jews are called human beings, but the non-jews are not humans.They are beasts “.
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What claptrap:
http://www.come-and-hear.com/babamezia/babamezia_114.html
There is no such passage. It is mostly about debtors. The only reference to Gentiles is that no one is to defile Gentile graves.
More:
In Talmud Bammidbar Raba c 21and Jalkut 772,it is stated thus :
“Every jew, Who spills the blood of Godless non-jew, is doing the same thing as making a sacrifice to God ”
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Nope; sorry:
https://www.sefaria.org/Bemidbar_Rabbah.21?lang=bi
More:
Note :Talmud, preserved in “Hesronot “,is the holiest jewish religious book and practiced by Jews today as It constitutes state grundnorm of fascist evil zionist state of Israel.
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Actually, the Torah is the holiest Jewish book. The Talmud is largely commentary on the Torah.
And Israel does not govern according to Halacha, in any case. It is a secular state.
How many times has Ibrahim itace muhammed spewed untruths in just this one post? Very impressive, in its own way…
joanofark06 says
gravenimage, I see your VERY knowledgeable about history, israel, etc etc….and I’m sure others, as well as I, really appreciate it…..but WHY in the world, after all of Ibrahim’s negative, evil comments (day after day, month after month, etc), would you even waste your time trying to teach him something, he won’t accept, learn from, or even acknowledge?? (or he does, it would be either evil or negative). I don’t get why you keep continuing to correct him? At some point, don’t you wanna say “I quit” or “I give up”? But….the rest of us appreciate it anyway…so, carry on…
gravenimage says
Dear Joan, thank you for your kind words.
You will note that I do not address the appalling Ibrahim itace muhammed directly, for the very reasons you mention.
Instead, I expose his bs for any Anti-Jihadists who are interested.
Sunshineinjuly says
Ibrahim says that moes have always loved Blacks…funny how that works when we know that every country that arabs attempted to overtake in the last 1,400 years, the first thing they did was to lop off the balls of all black men and then enslave them, as arab men were to fricking lazy and loony to work…..and then as added insult, arabs would rape the black women to insert arab seed so that it would prevail and blacks wouldn’t multiply. Wow, such a strange way of showing your love for blacks…by chopping off the ballage of blacks??? What other jokes does Ibrahim, funny boy have?
Then one wonders why do arabs and black moes continue to use blacks in slave trading…methinks that funny boy moe arab Ibrahim, has a head parched from the hot arab sun, thus the brain dries out whatever gray matter was there in the beginning, if even ever.. Speaking of which check out Ibrahim’s facebook page where he has a post on Oct 23, 2014 entitled-Islamic science—–does islamic literature contain scientific miracles? Click that url and read it in entirety to laugh your head off…I doubt that Ibrahim even read it for it doesn’t do anything to further his cause of Moo Ham and Ed being superior to Jesus Christ…and in fact, in one fell swoop, Muhammed is shown to be a nutcase who had delusions or as we say, major mental misfit problems. The article concludes “Muslims cite alleged scientific miracles in the Qur’an and Hadiths to try and prove a divine origin of their faith. In this short study of Islamic science, these claims have been debunked. Clearly there was no supernatural force giving Muhammad scientific information. While the Muslims argued that advanced scientific knowledge in the Qur’an is a sign of divine origin, the rational thinker points out that the numerous and obvious scientific errors point to a wholly human origin.” Thanks Ibrahim for showing us you are either a fake who pretends to love Muhammad, or a jerk who likes to taunt.
Either way you provided us with rich material that Muhammad was a true blue flipping fake. Perhaps then that is why you emulate and praise him.
https://infidels.org/library/modern/denis_giron/islamsci.html
Lydia Church says
Nope, muslims worship satan, as did mohammed, allah is satan.
Christians worship the one true God of the Bible.
And the talmud is not the Bible, it is not the Word of God.
It is just rabbinical commentary, Christians don’t value it at all.
Infidel says
This is one of the few REAL MEN among nations along with Hungary, Czech, Slovakia, and Poland… Should I include the USA too?? as long as they allow the MAN DT to do his job of protecting Americans…
mortimer says
Barrier? There was no barrier in the 1920s and 1930s when many Arab economic migrants sneaked into the Mandate of Palestine to seek employment in the rapidly expanding Jewish economy. The descendants of these migrants call themselves ‘Palestinian’. Arabs still want to sneak into Israel, the only real democracy in the Middle East to benefit from the Israeli economy and then if they get a chance, to destroy it.
This is mental illness, at least a mental disorder. The only answer to this madness is a wall and security checks every ten feet.
Islam is to blame. Islam creates dysfunctional societies.
Michael Copeland says
Unfortunately EU states have to contend with Bilderberg attenders such as the bullying and tainted Peter Sutherland. Perhaps it was a Bilderberg approach that he articulated:
“The days of hiding behind borders and fences are long gone. We have to work together and cooperate together to make a better world. …….
“sovereignty is an illusion … sovereignty is an absolute illusion that has to be put behind us”,
“states have to become more open states, in terms of the people who inhabit them”.
https://libertygb.org.uk/news/peter-sutherland-paid-migration-promoter
Israel shows the way
Custos Custodum says
Sutherland means “a better world for billionaires and their political lackeys like me.” This is why the general population must be destroyed through weaponized migration.
See:
Weapons of Mass Migration
Forced Displacement, Coercion, and Foreign Policy
Kelly M. Greenhill
Rob says
A state’s first right and first obligation is to determine who enters and who does not. Open borders at the peril of your state’s existence.
gravenimage says
A state first of all has to protect her people. You cannot do that with indiscriminately open borders.
StellaSaidSo says
If borders were a bad thing, houses would have no doors.
Funny how the most vociferous advocates of ‘open borders’ – the billionaire globalists – all live behind high walls, protected by security guards.
mike9a says
Those advocates have a comon name: demagogues! Thank you Stella, for this, the most obvious demagogue example 🙂
joanofark06 says
Aaah….like the POPE!?
b.a. freeman says
point number 5 is critical for the u.s.
a friend of mine once worked with a pakistani engineer. my friend encountered the engineer doing a technician’s work on second shift, and asked if he was helping out, as they were short of personnel. the engineer said that he was actually employed as a tech on second shift. my friend then noted that it must be hard on family life to work so much doing 2 jobs, and the engineer said that his wife and children were back in pakistan, but he was only working this way for a couple of years. taken aback, my friend asked why he was doing that. the engineer answered by asking if my friend got a chance to move to another country and work for a million dollar annual salary, but had to leave his family behind, would he take that job? he then said that he was working for a couple of years in the u.s. (legally), after which he could move home and never have to work again (or could start a business if he so chose).
i think that many economic “immigrants” are doing something similar to what this pakistani engineer did, accepting low-paying jobs in the u.s. because they are high-paying by their standards. if they accept bad living conditions for a couple of years and send most of the money home, they can go back after a few years and have a nice nest egg saved up. unfortunately, those “bad living conditions” can often be de facto slavery, with all wages withheld to cover “expenses” designed by the employer to be confiscatory. not all employers of illegals do this (in fact, most probably would never do that), but because the economy of illegals is in fact illegal, there is nothing to prevent employers from doing this. in the meantime, the employers get an advantage by breaking the law and not having to pay withholding taxes or health care.
thus, one of the *easiest* things to do is penalize those employers who break the law and hire illegals. if every employer of illegal aliens was fined $1000.00 per day of illegal employment per illegal alien, the advantage of hiring illegals would evaporate, as would most of the jobs for illegals. those who were here illegally would no longer be able to work, and all we would have to do is offer transportation back to the border for such illegals. the problem would disappear in short order.
ours is a government of laws, not men. if we tolerate *any* broken laws, we threaten the legitimacy of our government, and encourage rule by men (which hasn’t turned out well for the average person in virtually all other forms of government throughout history). the former president, mr. obama, is indeed a constitutional scholar, but only because he wants to know his enemy, freedom. he was the most successful traitor in american history, and one of his chief tools for destroying our freedom was circumventing the constitution, the legislature, and the law by “doing good things” without them. to make an analogy, there are some real a**holes around, who are criminal to the core, and will continue to be criminal to the day that they die; some would say that if they are killed by the State for a crime which they did not commit, then good riddance, but this raises the question of who gets to decide who is an a**hole. this is why it is best to punish people *only* for the crimes they commit; otherwise, those who decide who the a**holes are may someday not like *U*, and *U* may die because there is a government by men.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
ba. Freeman, It Jews Who are known for racism and hate. Read obnoxious jewish holy book, the Talmud ,in Baba Mezia, 1146,thus:
“The Jews are called human beings, but non–jews are not humans. They are beasts “.
In Talmud Bammidbar Raba c 21and Jalkut 772,it is stated thus :
“Every jew, Who spills the blood of Godless non-jew, is doing the same thing as making a sacrifice to God”.
Note :Talmud is currently the holiest jewish religious book preserved in “Hesronot shas”,believed by all Jews
gravenimage says
Why does Ibrahim itace muhammed keep spamming this claptrap?
joanofark06 says
Day after day, week after week, month after month…..you’d think he’d get the message that nobody cares about his evil, deranged, rants! The only people who would respond to him, would be newbies on here, who don’t know him, and will quickly correct him, while the rest of us, shake our heads, and just ignore him.
I say we have a duty, to teach the newbies, what WE know about him…so they’ll know better, to answer him, next time…..as we already know, it’s a COMPLETE waste of time.
He’s one of satan’s followers….why waste our time typing to him?? But then again, as christians, I suppose we should share the gospel with him, and the love of Christ…right? Hmm, satan would laugh at all that…I think Ibahim would too….
gravenimage says
Joan, I believe that the vicious Ibrahim itace muhammed and other Muslim trolls here are quite valuable for the glimpse they give us into the diseased Muslim mindset.
Marc Louis of Jihad Watch has noted that that is why he is permitted to go on spewing his hatred here. Very instructive.
Champ says
joanofark06 wrote:
“But then again, as christians, I suppose we should share the gospel with him, and the love of Christ…right? Hmm, satan would laugh at all that…I think Ibahim would too….”
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Maybe share it with him once, and then move on, because Jesus instructs Christians to do exactly that. But some Christian posters, here, continue to cast their pearls before this swine. But I won’t.
Question: “What did Jesus mean when He said to not cast your pearls before swine (Matthew 7:6)?”
Answer: https://www.gotquestions.org/pearls-before-swine.html
Excerpt:
“The command not to cast your pearls before swine does not mean we refrain from preaching the gospel. Jesus Himself ate with and taught sinners and tax collectors (Matthew 9:10). In essence, the instruction in Matthew 7:6 is the same that Jesus gave to His apostles when He said, “If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town” (Matthew 10:14). We are to share the gospel, but, when it becomes apparent that the gospel is not welcome, we are to move on. We are responsible to share the good news; we are not responsible for people’s response to the good news. Pigs don’t appreciate pearls, and some people don’t appreciate what Christ has done for them. Our job is not to force conversions or cram the gospel down people’s throats; there’s no sense in preaching the value of pearls to swine. Jesus’ instruction to His apostles on how to handle rejection was to simply go elsewhere. There are other people who need to hear the gospel, and they are ready to hear it.”
Also, I find his evil comments very tiresome, too, joanofark06. I suppose they *are* instructive, but that doesn’t mean that they’re appropriate or even tolerable. Across time, I have seen many mohammedans wear-out their welcome with their filthy comments and get banned on this forum. So we’ll see what eventually happens with this guy …
Tick, Tock!
Lydia Church says
Sadly, the talmud is not God’s Word, it is not in the Bible.
Christians don’t condone it at all.
Savvy Kafir says
More common sense on display in Israel.
Unlike many of my fellow Lefties, I don’t see the advantage in allowing the entire third world to immigrate to the U.S. (or Canada, Europe, etc.). What’s the end game with that plan?
If it were up to me, I’d say: “If you’re a non-Muslim and you’ve got a college degree (or plan to get one) and you understand how the scientific method works, Welcome to America! If not, please look elsewhere.”
We need more smart, educated people to counter the (really alarming) dumbing-down of the U.S. We don’t need to become Mexico, or Somalia, etc., by being swamped by millions of uneducated, third-world migrants. It makes far more sense to try to help (non-Muslim) people in their own countries, by sharing scientific & technological know-how, and by supporting the least-corrupt political leaders in those countries.
Of course, if those immigrant egg-heads have been indoctrinated in a politically-correct university that teaches kids WHAT to think, instead of critical thinking skills, they’re not going to be much help. So there’s that.
joanofark06 says
“Unlike many of my fellow Lefties, I don’t see the advantage in allowing the entire third world to immigrate to the U.S. (or Canada, Europe, etc.). What’s the end game with that plan?”
Eww Eww, I know the answer to that!! Lol, but really I came up with an answer one day, asking myself (more to God, though) what IS the PURPOSE of this major immigration to all these MANY countries, at this time in history. There has GOT to be a purpose for something on a scale as big as this!
So here’s what I came up with (or God put it in my head, thanks be unto Him, ooops, taking and changing a muslim line…lol…but really). If you know the bible, it says that during the tribulation, you have to get a mark, to buy or sell. Now what if you WILL NOT take satan’s mark? What is the punishment?
Well if you look at Rev 20:4, it will tell you: (notice capitalized word)
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were BEHEADED for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark in their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Ok, so how many people you think are NOT going to take the mark? I’d say probably, maybe a few million, give or take? Now, satan have his work cut out for him, with that many people to “punish” around the world, wouldn’t you think? He can’t do all alone, and as satan is a physical man on earth, he won’t be able to be in more than one place at a time…. He needs MANY people (satan followers) to help him “punish” all of the christians, jews, and others, all around the world. Now we look at a HUGE group of people, that would GLADLY “punish”, the christians, and jews (and all the “infidels”!) for nothing, but satan will use them for HIS purposes, since so many are following him today anyway…….you getting the picture yet? Satan needs all these followers of his to “behead” them all! (I mean, beheading is also in the koran, it’s what the muslims do!) Why are thousands upon thousands immigrating to all these MANY countries? I think you probably know the answer now…so it’s said in our bibles, that satan’s time is short…I think it became a little bit shorter, and when satan has everyone that he needs in the correct position (like all these countries leaders, that are welcoming thousands of them into their country, with open arms), then I believe the 7 year tribulation starts. And there you have it….the purpose of a huge migration to MANY countries. Whatcha think?
Wellington says
Build the wall on America’s southern border but be of no doubt that the reason why America needs it is because Mexico is a disgrace of a country. Many individual Mexicans are wonderful people but the government of Mexico has been failing its own people and others for some two hundred years now. If Mexico worked as well as Canada has, America would need no wall. I will close here by observing that with a Prime Minister like Justin Trudeau and those Canadians who support this fool, America may eventually need a wall on its northern border.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Shameful……but getting truer everyday this country is under the control of what i consider foreign masters.
Lets’s hope it doesn’t come to that.
CRUSADER says
Israel is fairly effective at halting signs of homelessness and drug uses as well.
There are only rare racy adverts in Israel.
Alcohol is not as easily gotten as one might think it could be there. It takes a bit of effort.
They post authority overtly and undercover in plazas and street corners and at malls and museums.
They monitor much.
They keep family strong.
They care about society bonds.
They fill holes and dig out what is boarded up.
A prudent place, Israel.
Walter Sieruk says
Porous borders Mexico had enabled ISIS and Al Qaeda operatives as well as jihadists of other like-minded Islamic terror entities to infiltrate into the United States. Furthermore, illegal immigration from Mexico is dangerous because of crime by gangs of hooligans who enter the US through pours borders with Mexico. As for example, the gang of thugs called MS-13 who originated in El Salvador the come into America through Mexico. Those gangsters commit crimes as murders, rapes, drug dealing. They are also known, for a price, to smuggle jihadists of Al Qaeda in America. In addition, to all this, with illegal immigration also comes higher welfare cost and an increased chances of the spread of contagious diseases, such as TB. Furthermore, with more illegal come more environmental degradation and more urban sprawl. Therefore, there is a great need for a good for a good border control system with a strong tall wall that’s patrolled by armed American officers who may be allowed to uses their guns if they deem it necessary. Along with a good filtering system to let in to the United States only good decent hard working people with visas and not and not gangsters and jihadists. In conclusion all the above may be summed up by the wisdom found in the words of Ronald Reagan when he as, so well, stated “A nation without borders is not a nation.”
CRUSADER says
Trump also said what Reagan had said: “A nation without borders is not a nation.”
Good thing that Trump as POTUS is conscientious and conscious enough to quote Reagan….
Sarah says
It is a great plan.
It’d be an absolute nightmare to try and replicate in my country, Australia. Given how we’d have to fence and barricade off, an entire continent and that we don’t have enough armed forces to patrol our entire border – what country has those numbers? Come to think of it, bloody China. That’s ominous, now I think of it, hehe.
But we have shark-infested waters as our barrier – as well as a law with proven precedent, that if you try to illegally enter our nation, you will never ever ever get what you want. So go join the queue at a UN camp. God knows we let too many in via that method as it is.
And its worked for us. Granted our actual location as a continent has been one of the biggest factors in our efforts to successfully repel foreign invaders, that has to be acknowledged. You just can’t walk to Australia, no matter how hard you try.
But, our laws are what stops the flow, ultimately. And our laws – in application with the Israeli method for any Western nation that shares a border link in some way to the African and Middle Eastern regions, will absolutely work to stop this ridiculous flow of economic migration.
Hell, if I were an African who had hoofed it all the way across Africa, it would be worth the risk of sneaking into Israel, just so I could get caught and get paid the $3500 to leave again. That’s a huge amount of money in any sub-saharan African nation and I could then use it to go home and setup a business for myself. But that’s forward thinking – with a big dose of selfishness. The majority of these migrants have the big dose of selfishness, but not the forward thinking.
LeftisruiningCanada says
The (you would think) simple action of merely keeping asylum seekers etc out of your country UNTIL they are accepted must be a big part of the success you mention?
Sarah says
Yes and no.
In our situation, we have had ‘asylum seekers’ who have tried to come to Australia via a boat journey from Indonesia. Our laws mean that we catch them and pack them off to Nauru or Manus Islan for processing. At any point, they’re welcome to go home, at our cost.
During their detention on Nauru or Manus, should any of them be determined to be found as having a genuine need for asylum – that’s fine. But they still won’t get it from us. They get packed off to whichever country we can get to agree to take them.
(That’s why a bunch of them rioted in Papua New Guinea last year. They were offered asylum – but in PNG. Not Australia. They weren’t too happy about that. No welfare, housing, education, healthcare etc. They SHOULD have been happy – because they were granted asylum and are now far away from their country of origin. )
The only time an asylum seeker will be offered asylum in Australia – is via the UN camp process. For instance, some dickhead Poitician decided we ‘needed’ to take in 12,000 Syrian ‘refugees’ from the Syrian civil war. They were all processed and plucked from a preexisting UN camp in the Middle East. We won’t accept asylum seekers in any other way, right now.
What we need to do, is go back to offering Temporary Protection Visa’s. We used to do that with asylum seekers. When I was a teenager, during the winding down of the Kosovo War, I remember there being quite the song and dance here, because the Australian Government were preparing to send all the Kosovo refugees back, now that the war had concluded. The Kosovars’ weren’t too pleased – but they went home.
TPV’s are the way.
joanofark06 says
I have to tell ya, I archive everything islam, and have been since 9/11….and well, I just wanted to show you a few articles you might have missed, from Australia. (I organize all articles by subject and countries….So here’s a few from Australia. Might want to sit down for this:
Australia: Plans for Islamic hub featuring mosque, childcare centre, shops and apartments exclusively for Muslims
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/05/australia-plans-for-islamic-hub-featuring-mosque-childcare-centre-shops-and-apartments-exclusively-for-muslims#comment-1674996
Australia: The Madness Continues
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10604/australia-madness
Sharia Down Under
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10380/sharia-australia
Australia: Muslim who gouged out his wife’s eye and then slaughtered her says it’s “normal” behavior in Middle East
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/12/australia-muslim-who-gouged-out-his-wifes-eye-and-then-slaughtered-her-says-its-normal-behavior-in-middle-east
Australia: More sharia down under, another public pool goes dark for Muslims
https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2017/05/18/australia-more-sharia-pools/
Australia: Right-wing leader Pauline Hanson wears black burqa in senate stunt
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/australia-right-wing-leader-pauline-hanson-wears-black-burqa-senate-stunt-1635382
I’ll stop there…
LeftisruiningCanada says
Thank you both for the comments, very informative.
gravenimage says
Joan, you are right that there is a great deal of dhimmitude in Australia–very concerning.
But Sarah is also right that Australian authorities now have a much saner immigration policy than does much of the West–especially most European nations.
Most Western nations are a hodgepodge of policies when it comes to Islam–largely because none of these governments have really studied the creed, so they are all very inconsistent.
Still, there is no doubt that despite their shortcomings that Australia is smarter than many in the West.
maghan says
But the paradoxical thing is that the cost of traveling to the Libyan coast then ferrying over to Italy can cost as much as $8,000.
gravenimage says
More proof that these are not all “penniless refugees”…
My Shari'a Moor says
Due to USA generosity/aid, Israel is SAFE behind her well-constructed border wall!
WE in the USA deserve one, too!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
ba. Freeman, It is Jews Who are known for racism and hate. Read obnoxious jewish holy book, the Talmud ,in Baba Mezia, 1146,thus:
“The Jews are called human beings, but non–jews are not humans. They are beasts “.
In Talmud Bammidbar Raba c 21and Jalkut 772,it is stated thus :
“Every jew, Who spills the blood of Godless non-jew, is doing the same thing as making a sacrifice to God”.
Note :Talmud is currently the holiest jewish religious book preserved in “Hesronot shas”,believed by all Jews .It is the source of state policy of fascist evîl zionist of Israel pursuant to which they spill the bloods of palestinians on daily basis, and believe that It is their Satan god Who inspired evil Talmud permitted them to do so without accountability.
Champ says
Why don’t you leave and start your own website and call it “Jew / Christian Watch” so you can hate to your hearts content, because this is not the right forum for your constant anti-Semitic and anti-Christian RANTS.
On Jihad Watch we expose the *real* enemy: islam.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Don’t be so hasty there Champ. I hear where you’re coming from, but you have to admit that Ibrahim is a fantastic contributor to the comment section here.
In order to find such honesty from a muslim we would have to go and immerse ourselves in the filthy depths of islamic themed chat forums, and even then they might never reach the heights of self expression that Ibrahim offers to us here almost every day.
Think of him as a spring board into refuting islamic delusion. Personally, i am glad he is here.
Champ says
“Personally, i am glad he is here.”
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You would!
mike9a says
Agreed. I am glad his pathetic thinking is /exposed/ here too. With every post, he is proving, confirming and cementing all the RS, CW, PG, … efforts and work. And for all of us, to undoubtedly, see what mos are up to: misery for everyone.
StellaSaidSo says
He is a valuable contributor in that he shows us exactly what we are up against. There are millions like him, and if we do not take decisive action, they will destroy everything in their path.
Champ says
StellaSaidItBest:
“He is a valuable contributor in that he shows us exactly what we are up against. There are millions like him, and if we do not take decisive action, they will destroy everything in their path.”
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Indeed–you make the best argument for why this evil perp is essential to Jihad Watch!
That said, it’s hard to stomach his vile hatred and pathetic attempts to deviate our attentions away from the *real* enemy: islam.
And I hope you don’t mind my taking creative license with your wonderful moniker 😉
Lydia Church says
He proves our point well.
gravenimage says
Yes–Ibrahim itace muhammed exposes the savage ugliness of Islam.
StellaSaidSo says
‘StellaSaidItBest’ – love it! You’re welcome, Champ!
It is easy to laugh at the fool Ibrahim. He could not win a point in debate if could phone 10 friends.
But he could win a street-fight by phoning 2 or 3, and a mayoralty by mobilising thousands.
They don’t care about the quality of the argument.
They care about the numbers.
We overlook this at our peril.
Champ says
🙂
LeftisruiningCanada says
Ok Ibrahim, this is a bit better – you gave references, thankyou.
Direct links are preferable, but references are definitely better than nothing.
Looking at your first reference to Bava Matzia, i am unable to find the quote you provided.
Same for the other, but only because i can’t even find the books referred to.
Against his own advice (that we shouldn’t learn about islam from non islamic sources because they are biased), i believe that Ibrahim is getting his information from islamic sources who, needless to say, could be possibly biased.
See if his in the post above don’t look exactly the same as the ones on this islamic dawa site:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/nonjews_in_talmud.htm
LeftisruiningCanada says
I looked here:
https://www.sefaria.org/search?q=beasts&filters=Talmud&var=1&sort=r
And here:
https://halakhah.com/indexrst.html
gravenimage says
Yes–no surprise, Ibrahim itace muhammed’s quotes come not from the Talmud, but from an Islamic Da’wa site slamming Christianity.
Muslims love the idea that they can get the victims of Jihad to be distrustful of one another–the easier it will make it for Muslims to take over.
Lydia Church says
Divide and conquer is a typical enemy tactic.
Whether it is true or not is another issue. But it would be a sweeping generalization to claim that all Jews feel that way. Again, it is NOT in the Old Testament, but in the Talmud. As Christians, we love the lost and even our enemies. Exposing their ways is not unloving, it is loving in many ways.
And the fact of the matter is that; the koran teaches to harm the innocent, and muslims do just that time and again, once they gain the opportunity or the upper hand. Even if the talmud would say that, we do not see that coming from Jewish people, rather they are targets. And nowhere in the Bible is anything unjust commanded, rather we are to love our enemies, and that is what true Christians do, who follow the Good Book.
In a nutshell, by loving our enemies, Christians are doing what our book says.
By intolerantly killing all non muslims, muslims are doing what their book says.
And we see each tree bear its blossoms and come to fruition accordingly.
gravenimage says
Lydia, these quotes are *not* in the Talmud. This is Nazi and Muslim propaganda.
gravenimage says
I agree with the rest of your point, Lydia.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Ah, no, hang on there i did find something like the second one after a bit of digging around.
The digging was necessary because Ibrahims versions of the ‘quote’ is a bit different to the real one, the name referred to is spelled differently and, crucially, this is not from the Talmud.
It is from a work by a guy called Bahya ben Asher, who lived 6-700 years after the Talmud was compiled.
The full quote is here:
ויכפר על בני ישראל”, “he obtained atonement for the Children of Israel.” This verse teaches that he who spills the blood of the wicked is considered as if he had offered a sacrifice. The idea is reflected in Exodus 21,14: “from My altar you shall remove him to die.” The meaning of the verse is that even if the party concerned is a priest involved in performing his priestly duties on the altar, he must be removed and executed (Yoma 85). ”
I’m in the process of getting some Jewish help on this one, as i’m not use when it comes to figuring out Jewish commentary on Jewish Laws, which is what this is.
It’s worth keeping in mind that these quotes are often taken out of a long and technical lawyer type discussion, and are very easy to take out of context.
Ibrahim wants us to read his islamic stuff in context and do the research, but apparently he is far from giving others the same respect.
LeftisruiningCanada says
So a Jewish fellow i have been in contact with helped out with this issue.
Far from this being some kind of evil Jewish commandment to kill non-Jews, and likening to being a sacrifice to God, as Ibrahim would have is believe, this is simply referring to capital punishment under Jewish Law.
It is now on Ibrahim, or any other muslim who wants to use this quote, to prove that the “wicked” means ‘non jews’. They won’t be able to do that, because really the definition is of those who break particular laws, and is not based on unbelief or apostasy, contrary to the laws of islam.
He also did some searching around on this resource:
https://www.responsa.co.il/home.en-US.aspx#
It’s the probably the largest easily accessible collection of Jewish religious writing in the world. He found 11 references to this particular rabbi’s commentary. That makes it a very obscure opinion, with basically no status in the Jewish world.
In short, this obscure quotation, even once it is quoted correctly, does nothing more than show that a rabbi, 6-700 years after the Talmud was made, had an opinion that is hardly noted or even known in Judaism.
If Ibrahim had wanted to show us something ‘shocking’, which, even if it were true, would only go to show that islam is evil anyway, he might as well have quoted from the Bible where it tells us that it is legal to kill someone who enters your home during the night with the intention to kill or harm you. Most people here would agree with that anyway, so it wouldn’t do anything to help Ibrahim’s Jew obsession.
But, since Ibrahim knows nothing about the Bible (nor probably the koran) that he hasn’t been told by someone else, i doubt he knows about that bit.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Just for a little more context, the quoted about the spilling of blood was the rabbis interpretation on Numbers 25:13
http://biblehub.com/esv/numbers/25.htm
There, we have the telling of a case of Israel worshiping the gods of Moab. A plague was sent upon Israel as punishment for breaking their covenant with God. In verse 7-9, a man of Israel legally kills an Israelite and one of the women involved in the idol worship. It is this action which lead to God lifting the plague.
Verse 13 is referring to this ‘sacrifice’ as that which was accepted by God as sign of Israels repentance. It is similar to how a family often expresses closure after a murderer has been served the death penalty i suppose.
I think there we have a sound definition of what ‘the wicked’ means in the quote from Bahya ben Asher.
That Ibrahim would try to use this as a way to condemn Jews is laughable.
gravenimage says
Thanks for all your research, LeftisruiningCanada.
LeftisruiningCanada says
It’s a pleasure to do it. I’d like to think that Ibrahim will at least consider the fact that he is parroting false and misleading quotations around, but then, i also like to think that taxes will go down and the government will shrink.
Neither are very likely.
gravenimage says
How to successfully stop illegal immigration: Follow Israel’s model
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Hear, hear! Fine article by Christine Douglass-Williams.
carpediadem says
Let us also note that these Israeli measures minimize the cruelty of leaving would-be immigrants hanging without result for years on end.
joanofark06 says
In case someone hasn’t seen this article yet:
American Jewish Leaders Urge Israel Not to Deport Illegal Immigrants
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/33141/Default.aspx
Something is definitely wrong in the head of those supposed “leaders”!
gravenimage says
They think they are being humanitarians, but they are wrong.
Richard Courtemanche says
If only other Western leaders would have the same intelligence and courage. Instead, we have puppets who could not even get a job at Walmart.
DDMisra says
There is also a lot to learn from China, where the illegal immigrants vanish without trace. It is alleged by some that they are kept confined for harvesting human organs for transplantation.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Yes, we can learn how not to deal with illegal immigrants.