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Hugh Fitzgerald: Vote Early and Often For Milos Zeman

Jan 18, 2018 6:47 am By Hugh Fitzgerald

After President Trump announced his decision on December 6 to move the American Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, one country — Guatemala — announced that it would follow suit. Then we entered a period of confusion, in which we were assured, and then no longer assured, that other states would soon follow. Honduras was mentioned, and then Panama. And then it was said that Paraguay might be another. As of now, Prime Minister Netanyahu has declared that there are “more than ten countries” with which Israel is holding discussions on moving their embassies, but none of those other countries has been mentioned by name. So we still remain in a state of geopolitical anticipation, and behind assorted curtains and veils, no doubt many discussions with Arab representatives are also being held, and possibly, too, fat wads of cash are being offered by the Saudis to ensure that this or that country continues to do “the right thing.” It’s happened before. After both the Six-Day War and the Yom Kippur War, certain black African states that had had good relations with Israel, and even received considerable aid, especially in agricultural projects, one by one severed relations with the Jewish state, as Arab money worked its magic on African politicians. It has also had a similar effect — see Bat Ye’or’s Eurabia — in Europe.

But while we wait to see how things sort themselves out in Central and South America, in the Great Jerusalem Embassy Move, we can take heart from the thought that in Europe, if Milos Zeman is reelected as the president of the Czech Republic, the Czechs will likely be the first in Europe to move their embassy to Jerusalem. In the election held on January 12-13, with nine candidates, Zeman won 39% of the vote; Jiri Drahos, the runner-up, won 26%. In the latest informal polls, the candidates are running neck-and-neck.

Czech president Milos Zeman has throughout his political life been a strong supporter of the Jewish state. It’s not surprising this should be so. For the small state of Israel, threatened by enemies and often let down by its friends, touches a chord in Czechs, who remember how, in 1938, the ethnic Germans living in the Sudetenland, along the southern, northern, and western borders of Czechoslovakia, presented themselves as being victimized by the cruel Czechs, the way the “Palestinians” present themselves as david-versus-goliath demonstrators, savagely put down by the Israeli military. The leader of the “Sudeteners” was Konrad Henlein, a convinced Nazi and later a member of the S.S., who staged demonstrations for the foreign media which would make it appear that the Sudeteners were merely asking for “self-determination” (just like the “Palestinians”), and not for the ultimate destruction of Czechoslovakia, a version of events that Hitler used to pressure the Englishman Neville Chamberlain and the Frenchman Edouard Daladier into supporting the forced surrender by the Czechs of the well-fortified Sudetenland, to Germany, with the results we all know.

Zeman and many other Czechs sympathize with Israel not only because of their own country’s experience with the Nazis. It is also that the Czech Republic, like the three other members — Poland, Hungary, Slovakia — of the political and cultural alliance known as the Visegrad Group, are alert to the dangers of Islam, and determined to keep Muslim migrants out of their countries, to resist relentless pressure by the European Union to have them take what Chancellor Merkel describes as their “share” of the Muslims pouring into Europe. The peoples of these four countries, who experienced both the Nazi occupation and then Communist rule which ended only recently, have learned from experience to recognize an ideological menace, as has not always been the case in Western Europe.

But, I can imagine you are now wondering, how is it that the Germans, who experienced — who indeed were responsible for — Nazism, and then, in East Germany, also suffered from Communist rule, do not see things as the Visegrad Group peoples do? The explanation is complicated, but part of it must be that so eager are the Germans to show that they are tolerant, “anti-racist” as all get out, the very opposite of their heil-hitlering grandparents, that they are demonstrating their mindless “tolerance” and their hypertrophied “anti-racism” by being especially solicitous of Muslims, who have been presenting themselves as “the new Jews.” (In dismal fact, the “new Jews” are, alas, still the Jews). Thus does Germany make amends for its killing of six million Jews in exactly the wrong way, by admitting into its midst millions of Muslims who carry with them, in their mental baggage, Islamic antisemitism, that needs no Mein Kampf but comes from what is to be found so abundantly in the  Qur’an and hadith.

Here is part of what Zeman said, and one wishes other European leaders took the same unflinching look at Islam:

There are states [in the E.U.] with whom we share the same values, such as the political horizon of free elections or a free market economy. However, no one threatens these states with wiping them off the map. No one fires at their border towns; no one wishes that their citizens would leave their country. There is a term, political correctness. This term I consider to be a euphemism for political cowardice. Therefore, let me not be cowardly.

There are dozens of days of independence being celebrated every year in the Czech Republic. Some I may attend, others I cannot. There is one I can never miss, however: it’s the Israeli Independence Day.

There was a hideous assassination in the flower of Europe in the heart of European Union in a Jewish museum in Brussels. I will not let myself be calmed down by the declaration that there are only tiny fringe groups behind it. On the contrary, I am convinced that this xenophobia, and let’s call it racism or antisemitism, emerges from the very essence of the ideology these groups subscribe to.

So let me quote one of their sacred texts to support this statement: “A tree says, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. A stone says, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”

I would criticize those calling for the killing of Arabs, but I do not know of any movement calling for mass murdering of Arabs. However, I know of one anti-civilization movement calling for the mass murder of Jews.

After all, one of the paragraphs of the statutes of Hamas says: “Kill every Jew you see” [in words, not quite, but certainly in intent]. Do we really want to pretend that this is an extreme viewpoint? Do we really want to be politically correct and say that everyone is nice and only a small group of extremists and fundamentalists is committing such crimes?”

There was outrage from Muslims, who could not bear to have that hadith, found repeatedly in the two most authoritative collections, those by Bukhari and Muslim, quoted accurately:

Iyad Ameen Madani, Secretary General of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, issued a statement condemning Neman’s speech, saying, “It is only appropriate that President Milos Zeman apologizes to the millions of Muslims worldwide for his deeply offensive and hateful anti- Islam statements.”

In the OIC’s statement, it said, “The Secretary General reiterated that Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance and that terrorism should not be equated to any race or religion; a stance upheld by all major UN texts on the subject of countering terrorism. He added that the OIC countries share a profound respect for all religions and condemn any message of hatred and intolerance.”

Zeman refused to apologize, for as his spokesman said, ‘”the president would consider it blasphemy to apologize for the quotation of a sacred Islamic text.”

In the Western press, stories about Zeman’s speech and Muslim outrage over it often left out the actual quotes by Zeman from the hadith. The press knew the quotes were accurate, understood that they could put Muslims in a bad light, and therefore decided not to include them in their reportage. In their eyes, it is better to have a Western public that does not know the texts and teachings of Islam. For if that public were to find out what is in the Qur’an and hadith — anything other than the usual handful of misleading peaceable-kingdom verses, such as “there is no compulsion in religion” (Qur’an 2:256) — then their rage at the political and media elites who have allowed in, and continue to allow in, so many Muslims (take a bow, Angela Merkel) and brought Europe to its present parlous state could not be contained.

Zeman said on December 8 that Trump’s announcement about moving the American embassy made him “truly happy,” and that he hoped the Czech Republic would follow suit. Zeman added that as he proclaimed during his visit to the Jewish state four years earlier, he “would appreciate the transfer of the Czech Embassy to Jerusalem, and had it happened, we would have been the first to do so.” He did not offer a timeline, but were he to be reelected in the election, it is reasonable to expect a formal announcement that the Czech Republic that it, too, will be moving its Embassy. The Czech example might lead the other three nations of the Visegrad Group  — Poland, Hungary, and Slovakia — all of which are defiantly refusing to take in Muslim migrants despite E.U. pressure — to follow suit. They have no desire to placate Arabs or Muslims, no desire to end up as Germany, France, and the U.K. have ended up, with millions of Muslims in their midst. Those who endured Communist, and before that, Nazi totalitarianism, have no intention of succumbing to Islamic totalitarianism. Those who feel alarm about the inroads of Islam in Europe are more likely to exhibit sympathy for, and identification with, Israel. For they understand that the war against the Jewish state is not a dispute over borders but, rather, a conflict that for the Muslim side can not end until Israel disappears altogether. And the same fate — the subjugation of the Kuffar to Islamic rule — may come later in Europe, but if Muslims have their way, come it must.

The leaders of Poland and Hungary have already joined the Czech Republic in denouncing the attempt by the E.U. to force them to take in a certain quota of Muslim migrants. They do not wish to participate in Angela Merkel’s folly. Viktor Orban, Hungary’s president, has just denounced — not for the first time — those he calls the “Muslim invaders” of Europe, whom he describes as not being real refugees but merely economic migrants. That is, they are not fleeing from persecution or death, but come to Europe mainly to take advantage of the many welfare benefits — free or subsidized housing, free education, free medical care, generous family allowances — that European states offer. These Muslims have not shown any willingness to integrate but, as President Orban warned, are everywhere setting up “parallel societies.” There are No-Go zones (for non-Muslims) in many places in Europe, though the political and media elites keep minimizing this matter, places where women, Jews, homosexuals, and even the police and the firemen are hesitant  to enter. There are said to be 85 sharia courts in the U.K. alone. Orban has described with grim accuracy what European countries now endure.

If Milos Zeman is reelected as president, not only will he repeat his intention to move the Czech Embassy to Jerusalem but, given his temperament, will likely try to persuade one or more of his V4 9 (Visegrad) partners to do the same. Hungary would likely be next. Certainly Viktor Orban has repeatedly expressed support for Israel, and denounced the failure of Hungary to protect Jews during World War II. Poland has been another staunch supporter of Israel in Europe; like the leaders in the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Slovakia, Polish leaders did not criticize President Trump’s embassy move. After Hungary, I would put Poland as the third state in Europe to announce an embassy move, and finally, Slovakia.

This break by the V4 nations with the E.U. over recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital would certainly hearten others who would wish to do the same. They need all the encouragement they can get. The Western media continue to hinder Israel in making its case for a united Jerusalem being recognized as Israel’s “eternal” capital. Perhaps you, too, have heard Israeli spokesmen attempt to make that case, with hostile interviewers, including some fro the BBC, undermining them at every turn. The amount of media misinformation about, and contumely towards, Israel is staggering. Consider just one oft-repeated misstatement that “Jerusalem is a city holy to three faiths.” That isn’t true. As a city, it is holy only to Jews and Christians, while Muslims find holy only a particular site, Haram ash-Sharif, on the Temple Mount. Muslims deliberately appropriated the holiest Jewish site for Islam. Even the identification of the mosque there as the “al-Aqsa” mosque mentioned in the Qur’an (17:1) has been recently challenged by the Egyptian scholar and historian Youssef Ziedan. Ziedan argues that there were no mosques in Jerusalem in Muhammad’s lifetime, and that the Umayyad caliph Abd Al-Malik ibn Marwan, who finished  the mosque in 705, 73 years after the death of Muhammad, decided to identify it as the “Al-Aqsa” mosque of Qur’an 17:1 only because of his political rival Abdallah ibn al-Zubayr. Since that rival possessed Mecca and Medina, Abd al-Malik wanted at least to lay claim to the third holiest mosque, in Islam — which is why he began to call the mosque that he himself had built the “Al-Aqsa” Mosque.

Even if Milos Zeman were not to be reelected as the Czech president, he can continue to speak out on the historical justification for moving the Czech embassy to Jerusalem. He can still attempt to stir the consciences of those Europeans who have chosen to ignore history, and the 3000 year-old Jewish claim to Jerusalem, while blandly accepting the ahistorical claims to the city made by the “Palestinians,” a people only invented after the Six-Day War. He can still, as a public figure, help disseminate the argument of Professor Ziedan that the real Al-Aqsa mosque is to be found not on the Temple Mount, but on the road between Mecca and Ta’if, as described by the historian and early biographer of Muhammad, al-Waqidi. The outspoken Milos Zeman, who has the unusual habit of saying what he believes to be true, is clearly unfazed by Muslim critics. He stood his ground, confounding the Muslims who demanded a retraction, when he quoted from the hadith — nearly-identical versions to be found in several places in the two most authoritative collections, those by Bukhari (at 4.52.177, 4.52.796, and 4.56.791) and by Muslim (at 041.6981, 041.6983, 041.6984, o41.69850) — that “A tree says, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. A stone says, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.” Muslims claimed that such passages gave an entirely unfair impression of their peaceful and tolerant faith. You know how Zeman responded.

Milos Zeman might perform another useful service, whether reelected or not, by telling the V4 publics — the Czech, Polish, Hungarian, and Slovak peoples — what many of them do not know: to wit, that there were no mosques in Jerusalem in Muhammad’s lifetime, that the “al-Aqsa” mosque was completed 73 years after Muhammad’s death, that a political rivalry explains why the mosque built by the Umayyad caliph became known, inaccurately, as the “Al-Aqsa Mosque,” while according to Professor Youssef Ziedan, the real Al-Aqsa mosque can be found further south, on the road between Mecca and Ta’if, in Saudi Arabia..

And once the V4 nations, that subgroup within the E.U. that consists of four countries, all formerly part of the Communist bloc, the very nations that have successfully resisted the pressure to open their countries to the “Muslim invaders,” and that are most sympathetic to Israel, announce their own intention to move their embassies, would this not lead to pressure from others in Europe on their own governments, as they begin to realize that aside from the “Palestinians,” the reaction of most Arabs to Trump’s announcement has been muted, and furthermore, that if we accept the convincing arguments of Professor Ziedan about  where the real Al-Aqsa Mosque can be found, the Muslim claim to Jerusalem is greatly diminished.

What may be called the “Al-Aqsa effect” cannot be overestimated. Many of the Arabs would like to concentrate on their own national interests, and have become tired of the “Palestinians” and their incessant demands, whereby the other Arabs must expend diplomatic and other forms of capital, including money, on them. Recently The New York Times reported on an  Egyptian army officer, Ashraf al-Kholi, who contacted talk show hosts in Cairo to make sure they downplayed the embassy move, telling one of them “How is Jerusalem different from Ramallah, really?” Egyptian officials have since put on a  show of indignation over The Times’ report. But the article, apparently well-sourced from four different talk show hosts, is entirely plausible. The Egyptian government does not want there to be another intifada which might resuscitate Hamas in Arab eyes; it knows that its main domestic enemies are ISIS in the Sinai, and Hamas, with its safe base in Gaza. ISIS recently attacked a Sufi mosque in the northern Sinai, killing 305 people, the worst terrorist attack in Egypt’s history. Attacks on Copts, on churches and pilgrims in buses, and individuals, by ISIS, and other Muslims too, are ever more frequent. Meanwhile, Hamas has been continuing its attacks on the Egyptian military and police in the Sinai. The situation is volatile enough for El-Sissi, without having the Egyptian street riled up over the American embassy move.

The “Palestinians” will see their claim to Jerusalem much diminished if al-Aqsa is “moved” to accord with the historical reality Professor Ziedan convincingly provides. The Saudis, on the other hand, can take pleasure, should they wish, that the three holiest mosques in Islam — those in Mecca, in Medina, and now, in its rightful place somewhere on the road between Mecca and Ta’if, the real Al-Aqsa mosque — are all to be found, according to Professor Ziedan’s evidence, in Saudi Arabia. Why shouldn’t the Saudis be pleased? And couldn’t that make for a Saudi-Palestinian quarrel over the location of al-Aqsa, a fight the Saudis — who if they wished could spend a fortune to promote Professor Ziedan’s eminently sensible argument throughout the Arab and Muslim lands — could even win? In any case, there is widespread disenchantment with the “Palestinians,” and exhaustion, too, at their constant demands, including requests for aid of all kinds. Such states as Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, that are no longer eager to spend political and other capital on behalf of the endlessly needy and ungrateful “Palestinians,” would find it much easier to justify their not having made bigger fuss over the American embassy move to Jerusalem, if they, and other Muslims, embrace the argument that the al-Aqsa mosque mentioned in the Qur’an is not, and never was, in Jerusalem. The fury of the “Palestinians’” can be imagined, but what can they do? What can they say to the deeply learned Egyptian scholar who points out that there were no mosques in Jerusalem during Muhammad’s life, tells us where the textual evidence places the real al-Aqsa, and explains how a political rivalry led to the Umayyad caliph’s claim that the mosque he completed in 705 CE was the ”al-Aqsa mosque”? And what could they do if the Saudis were now to lay claim to possessing all three of the holiest sites in Islam, and use their money to help convince other Muslims to acquiesce? The “Palestinians” continue to think that they remain center stage for Arabs and Muslims; they do not yet realize how tired the other Arabs, who have their own interests and worries (from ISIS and Hamas in the Sinai to Houthis in Yemen), are of the “Palestinian” insistence that the Arab world must revolve around them.

The one politician in Europe whom we can be reasonably sure would be willing to publicly discuss the question of where the real “Al-Aqsa” mosque is to be found is Milos Zeman. He does not need to win the Presidential election to do so, but being reelected would allow him to retain his bully pulpit. His opponent, Jiri Drahoš, is a distinguished scientist, the President of the Czech Academy of Sciences, but — as I discovered to my consternation — disturbingly naive when it comes to Islam. In 2014, Drahoš signed a petition called “Scientists against fear and hatred,” which criticised what was described as “the growing anti-Islamic radicalism in the country.” One wonders if he still feels the same today, after four more years of Islamic terrorism in Europe, after the rise and fall in Syria and Iraq, and rise again elsewhere, of ISIS. One would like to think that Dr. Drahoš has by now taken time to read and study the Qur’an and hadith, and reconsidered his earlier views. Meanwhile, though Milos Zeman’s often abrasive manner is no match for the grave and thoughtful demeanor of the professorial Jiri Drahoš, on the matter of Islam, Zeman happens to be right. Let us hope enough Czech voters will agree.

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  1. CRUSADER says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 8:01 am

    Countries that sell out aren’t working from a sense of honor.

    Those other South American and African countries who are worked on by Arab monies wouldn’t make good and sensible allies to Israel.

    Rather just have a handful of strident supporters.

  2. CRUSADER says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 9:11 am

    RED GREEN ALLIANCE

    https://redgreenalliance.com/about/

    This blog about awareness on Leftism+Islamism recommends the following:
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    Gates of Vienna –
    has news but also excellent articles by a worldwide list of contributors – the intellectual heavyweight of the counter-jihad sites

    Jihad Watch –
    Robert Spencer runs this excellent news resource interspersed with longer articles by him (foremost non-Muslim expert on Islam)

    Pamela Geller –
    a lot of cross-over material with JW as Pamela Geller works closely with Robert Spencer (good comment section)

    Gatestone Institute –
    longer articles and research

    Barenaked Islam –
    US based news site, a bit crude and non-PC (to say the least) – warning as it contains shocking images

    The Muslim Issue –
    another useful site

    Answering Muslims –
    a Christian-based ‘apologetics’ website

    Sharia Watch –
    UK based website, based on alerting people to ‘creeping Sharia’

    Muslim Statistics –
    (international statistics, government statistics, newspaper articles and reports related to Muslim immigration and Muslim issues in non-Muslim societies.) – useful to refer links to apologists

    ———— Interesting of course is the emphasis on learning about RED / GREEN …

    • Linde Barrera says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 9:30 am

      Thank you Crusader, for these referential links. I wrote them down.

    • DFD says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 11:33 am

      @ Crusader

      Hmh, interesting, The RGA is a step in the right direction. There seems to be interest in the actual background(s) of the current events. In Germany Michael Mannheimer (easily comparable with Spencer, though, more into the political details and backgrounds) is also addressing more and more the actual issues. People such as these are running great personal risks, of course. Dr. Ulfcotte, murdered (not officially, he had a minor health problem, that killed him – conveniently), plus a few others, right up to Father Milch. Murdered by a “deranged” member of his community.

      I was surprised that on RGA not only was Kalergi mentioned, but so was his background and ‘his vision’ of the future elite/master race… Dangerous stuff, the debunkers will soon descend on RGA. Of course, get’s even more worrying when you mention the illu’s, and their morphing into the fabians, one of their current bosses being a guy called Tony Blair. The fabians of course have, in conjunction with Trotzky, later Lenin and the comintern founded the ‘school of frankfurt’, as a branch. Actually it’s properly called: “school of social theory and philosophy”. Hallmark: Genderism, multiculturalism, political correctness, determination of argument and definition, thus dominance of discourse. And everybody who disagrees is a fascist. Ever heard of the fabians? Yes, the ones whose coat of arms is the wolf in sheep’s clothing and the turtle, saying: “When I strike, I strike hard and sudden!” The turtle moves SLOWLY, nearly unnoticed. The fabians are of course international (well, they were some of the founders of the comintern), US, Germany, etc. Most Labour and a large number of Tories are fabians – as are US democrats, CDU-Germany, and and and… Does Theresa May AND Jeremy Corbyn ring a bell? You read that correctly, Theresa May ***and**** Jeremy Corbyn.

      Keep at it Crusader, you are on the right track. And get ready to accept what you see and what you can check! That means you can kiss 99% of the anti-jihad websites good bye. Just red pills, busily enforcing the ‘historical narrative’ of the last 100 years, or so. Hectically, frenetically pointing at the latest cancer/pest boil – but studiously avoiding and deflecting the actual disease. “….there, there! Another knifing/axing/bombing! Quick, quick: Quote the Quran, and that’s your “analysis” – aren’t you smart? Don’t look at what’s behind, just quote the Quran, and remember, politicians are soooo stupid, and you are soooo clever!”

      And so on and so forth – keep digging pal, keep digging!

      PS: DEUS VULT is an extremely interesting site. Though, careful, you could end up with the, errrhhh, icy one…

      • CRUSADER says

        Jan 18, 2018 at 1:46 pm

        DFD,

        Indeed this is what much has been about:

        “Genderism, multiculturalism, political correctness, determination of argument and definition,

        —–> thus dominance of discourse.”

        As for the icy one, as Robert Spencer says, truth will let out, and love has the capacity to win.

        By the way, what does DFD reference? Data Flow Diagram?

        • DFD says

          Jan 18, 2018 at 2:31 pm

          Crusader,

          “…By the way, what does DFD reference? Data Flow Diagram?” 🙂

          DFD are my initials, though, I take “Data Flow Diagram” as a compliment, thank you. Diagrammatic analysis is however extremely strong, useful and reliable. I pointed that out, with brief examples/illustrations to Linda Barrera. See here if interested: https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/01/hugh-fitzgerald-vote-early-and-often-for-milos-zeman#comment-1817579

          I did indeed enjoy your response, I loved the bit where you picked the ice, and then cross-linked with Robert Spencer, brilliant! Nay: BRILLIANT! Beautiful.

          I hope I have answered your question satisfactorily, and once again, thanks for the the link to RGA. Let’s hope they/he/she will stay the course!

    • b.a. freeman says

      Jan 19, 2018 at 9:34 am

      theReligionOfPeace dot com also lists some links (about 100 of them) to various sites with extensive information on the criminal cult of islam:
      https://thereligionofpeace.com/pages/site/links.aspx
      that page is how i found JW.

  3. CRUSADER says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 9:15 am

    This whole speculation on the Al-Aqsa Mosque is fascinating.
    (If it ain’t in Jerusalem after all, then just give it back to the Templars….)
    =====================================================

    ‘Origins of Islam’
    lecture by Tom Holland at
    Rancho Mirage Writers Festival, January 2017
    (and its “notorious jihadi community of Rancho Mirage”)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDQh2nk8ih4&t=598s

    Where did Islam come from? The story of how it came to be established across a vast empire stretching from the Atlantic to the frontiers of China is conventionally traced back to the charisma and inspiration of a single man: Muhammad. But his story was not written until 200 years later. Join historian Tom Holland, who has received death threats for challenging the long-held origins of Islam.

    Film Documentary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5zxPGk99cM
    Tom Holland: ‘Islam: The Untold Story’ Channel 4 UK Documentary

    Worth Seeing

    DEUS VULT
    +++++++++

  4. Linde Barrera says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 9:27 am

    Excellent, very enlightening article. Thank you, Hugh Fitzgerald. I have been told that Germans feel guilt for the Holocaust but try to make up for it by being water-carriers to the Semitic cousins of Jews: middle eastern Muslims. Makes no logical sense! To play on this guilt, I think the leaders of Germany were paid off. By whom you ask? Soros? Saudi Arabia? Iran? Too bad I am not in the position of investigative reporting.

    • DFD says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 1:57 pm

      “….Too bad I am not in the position of investigative reporting…”

      You are asking questions, that means you have began to think, to ‘be investigative’! Continue, ask questions, look for answers, cross-reference and cross-link.

      Do not accept that politicians are stupid, are unaware of the “core texts” and that you are clever. Instead, keep asking, digging – and get ready for shit! Sorry for the lingo, but you will find.

      Now Linda, once you have answered your questions with all possible answers and weighed the results, then cross checked and cross referenced, you will either have the truth in your hand or something extremely close to it. And if you do, I hope you will be able to swallow your results. It’s going to be hard, but truth feels good – after a while.

      Here’s a good method: Use graph paper, mm’s, inches, whatever, put down a timeline, decades, weeks, whatever interests you. Put in a number of events, say on a horizontal. Plus a number of verticals to develop trees of sub/related events and/or peoples. Latest now you will need see-thru and tracing paper in addition. Transfer intermediate results to computer, print…

      You will end with a completely
      —————————————-
      different world view – very quickly!
      ———————————————-

      And you will frequently get results you weren’t even looking for, and which are of no (SEEMING) relevance for whatever is your original quest.

      An example: Suppose you want to study the euro landings in the Americas, a double continent which has been named after a guy called Amerigo Vespucci. OK, you start one graph with a guy called ‘Christopher with a tall ship’, that is however insufficient since it neglects others. Thus you start a second graph called ‘Eric with a long boat’. Wonderful, you learn about boat building, naval engineering, different types of wood and how to treat these, and, and – in comes a debunker! Telling you about the fuel values of different fuels, and stating that diesels were far better than rowing; and that the Indians have been murdered by or with diesel fumes. But, But, But… – But what? Reality means nothing to the debunker. You state that there were no diesel engines, they didn’t fit, and the crews lacked the skills and there were no bunker stations. Means nothing to the debunker! The debunker wants to disturb, to throw you off track.

      However, you find some interesting things, and start more sheets. What do you find? You find that the modern internal combustion engine was not a German (Otto) invention. It was American, by a guy called Brayton. Otto was however the first one to successfully control that cycle. The diesel is slightly different, but it is not more efficient, on the contrary, but it’s more effective! The Idiotic argument of who invented the jet engine, Germans or English? Bullshit! It was Brayton, jet engines (modern day gas turbines) are actually called Brayton engines. Frank Whittle and Messerschmidt/Ohain had completely different mechanical layouts of the Brayton cycle, but followed his instructions to the letter…

      Hey, what about those euro landings in the Americas? Who cares, was fun and interesting wasn’t it. Still, Eric and Christopher are interesting too, OK! Back to the original sheets. Are you still listening to “debunkers”? I hope not. Salute dear Lady!

    • CRUSADER says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 1:57 pm

      Germans feel bad about those who get persecuted.
      And the Muslim cause is highly financed and advanced by PLO as victims.
      UN supported concept. Lots of petrodollars support the Muslim victimhood banner.
      It feeds into the wimpy dhimmitude of the West, so it garners more support as time goes on.

    • carpediadem says

      Jan 19, 2018 at 1:22 am

      It does not make sense and is not the real reason at all. It is a red herring explanation to stop people inquiring further, but is not at all truthful.

  5. mortimer says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 10:28 am

    Czechs are unlikely to take a bad check, because they have been duped so often. The motto of Czech Republic is ‘The Truth shall prevail.”

    Czechs are again leading Europe to a clear, truthful understanding of Islam.

    Germans should listen to the Czechs, before Germans destroy their own country.

    • CRUSADER says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 2:30 pm

      That’s good as far as that goes….TRUTH WILL LET OUT and TRUTH WILL SET FREE….

      We also need a good heaping dose of Red Scare these days, however….

      This Green/Red Axis to too entrenched and making inroads into highway systems with our traditional institutions….. populace is becoming indoctrinated drip by drip per the Muslim Brotherhood designs blending with Socialism’s appeal to the masses who don’t really want to see that life is a challenge yet not something to complain about and have taken care of….

  6. DFD says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 10:40 am

    Weird. I always thought that Slovakia and Hungary were Axis countries. Now I learn that they were Nazi occupied. That must be the reason why Hungarian lands were also “given away”and why they too experienced ethnic cleansing. Of course, wasn’t ethnic cleansing when done against Krauts and their axis allies – it was, good. Yeah, good! They deserved it!

    And of course, those ever lying, deceitful Sudeten Germans, just because there’s still plenty on youtube proving their point and their stories doesn’t mean it’s true. Well, at least not according to Fitzgerald… Funny thing that about the Sudetenland, and Germany invading Czechoslovakia. The Germans invaded the Sudetenland (which of course was evil, after all, it was German only for over a millennium, and then it ‘was given’ away at Versailles…), so, nothing to it. Oddly enough, the Czech authorities are now investigating various murders and tortures committed against Germans by Czechs. There’s practically no body left alive to persecute, but they do investigate, and acknowledge – Mr. Fitzgerald should tell them about their history. Tsss, tsss…. I am sure they are waiting for his understanding and knowledge. Czechs are decent people, incidently, the Germans will be forever indebted to Vaclac Havel! (And thank you!!!!)

    But those evil Krauts, ‘hope that makes Fitzgerald happy, didn’t invade Czechoslovakia, they merely invaded what was theirs, namely the Sudetenland. So who then did invade Czechoslovakia? Or rather “the rest” (actually, that’s nearly all!) of it? Who, I ask, who? The ally of the Germans! The Poles!!!!! They invaded Czechoslovakia, hmh, doesn’t really matter when one produces pieces such as…

    Well, that leaves one thing, and the Germans were always responsible for this, about 40,000 years from their history commencing in the Neander Valley onward. And after 1945 of course, 6 million dead Jews, murdered by the Germans. And they will always be responsible for this, previous AND future generations, they are guilty for ever and for ever – well as long as they have cash, or land or something else to be stolen. Sorry, compensated, liberated, of course.

    Problem: The ever decreasing number of, 6 million. EVERYBODY: Foam in front of your mouths, NOW! And debunk, debunk, debunk. A knowledgeable gentleman like Mr. Fitzgerald will find this easy to debunk and to correct. First monument plaquette was 6 million, then 4 million (https://furtherglory.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/4million.jpg) then 1.5 million (https://furtherglory.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/monument071.jpg) — and these plaques were and are at the, drum-roll: Auschwitz-Birkenau Camp. Strange, first the 6 million plaque removed. Then the the 4 million, and now the 1.5 million is, noted as a preliminary estimate.

    Well, the knowledgeable Mr. Fitzgerald will doubtlessly contact the management of the Auschwitz-Birkenau foundation/trust and debunk their figures… Of you go Mr. Fitzgerald, and debunk!

    As far as Mr. Fitzgerald, and others like him are concerned, what are they trying to achieve? I wonder. Can horror be quantified? If so, then the Americans are leaders in modern history, death marches into reservations, approx 80-120 million Indians murdered in total, over a 100-140 year period, etc., the Russians are runners up around 50-65 million in about 65-80 years, includes as victims Russians as well as Germans, Poles, Tartars, etc. That’s followed by the Chinese, though, they killed mostly their fellow Chinese – if that makes a difference. The Germans merely ‘qualify’ for forth or fifth place.

    • Wellington says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 2:09 pm

      DFD: On the specific matter of Indians murdered by Americans, the figure of 80-120 million is absurd. It is estimated that only some one to two million Indians existed in what is now the US when Columbus arrived in 1492 (I’ve seen as high as five or six million but most authorities think this way too high). The large majority of these Indians who came into contact with Europeans when settlement really began in the early seventeenth century onwards and died, died not from war but from disease. American Indians had no immunity to many diseases the Europeans brought with them, even the common cold.

      Yes, some Indians were ruthlessly killed by whites, but remember that Indians were absolutely brutal with each other regularly and also at times against whites. In any case, a figure of 80-120 million Indians murdered by Americans is pure propaganda. It’s nonsense. Never was the population of Indians in what is now the lower 48 states even close to ten million. Also, and I have read extensively in this area, there really were good hearted efforts to deal with Indians by the American government once it was formed during the American Revolution. The view at the time was that whites and Indians simply could not live with each other and that is why massive transfer of Indians from east of the Mississippi to lands west of this great river began from around 1830 onwards. That often times this “approach” led to the death of many Indians (in the thousands, not millions) was due to ineptitude and general incompetence rather than any outright deliberate genocidal intentions. Indeed, if genocide had actually been the goal (which it was not), why move various Indian tribes like the Seminole, Creek, Chickasaw, Cherokee, etc., at all? Why not just murder them en masse where they already were?

      Did betrayal of promises by whites to Indians occur? You bet they did. It is a shameful episode in American history (N.B., virtually no people have a shameless record, including the greatest like the ancient Greeks, the Dutch, the English, et al.) but your figure of 80-120 million Indians murdered by Americans is utterly ridiculous. Reconsider because accuracy is paramount in any attempt to reconstruct the past.

      • Wellington says

        Jan 18, 2018 at 2:22 pm

        I just realized re-reading my post that the opposite of “shameful” is not “shameless” but “blameless.” Interesting how “shameful” and “shameless” mean essentially the same thing, rather as do the words “flammable” and “inflammable.” One might think otherwise using strict logic but language often does not adhere to pure logic.

        • CRUSADER says

          Jan 18, 2018 at 2:41 pm

          Indeed. Figures are facts.
          There were far fewer Native Indians.
          And as for the Jewish figure, that is well documented in the Names Remembrance /
          Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem.

          Also, what does it matter the ranking? It’s all bad, and we must all learn from history.

          We know that the Left tries to over-inflate USA figures for the Native numbers.
          We know that the Left tries to pave over the horrific numbers ascribed to their favorites: Stalin, Mao, and to the Caliphates over time. The Left likes to ignore these figures.
          The Left uses the Germans as a convenient truth, in order to point at something to which they can claim is fascist….so that everything they disagree with is “Nazi”….

      • DFD says

        Jan 18, 2018 at 3:12 pm

        Wellington,

        thanks for your reply, you could be right, you could be wrong. Some of my figures allow for “prevented population growth”, that is generations not born because their original parents have been murdered. Stats are always dubious at best, remember the statistician who drowned in a river with an avg depth of 90cm/3ft? I got my numbers from various Indian (sorry: Native American!) websites, which means these numbers are as tainted as the US gov web sites in reference to the same matter.

        There are many other things to consider, for instance or as an example/illustration, Cortez! Oh, everybody loves to hate him, by now he’s worse than The Lionheart Squared! What people fail to realize is however this: The Aztecs or Mayas (or both, whatever) “sacrificed” thousands upon tens of thousands of victims every year. Cortez didn’t have a few hundred soldiers plus canons, he had somewhere between 70,000 and more than 100,000 troops, soldiers ***and warriors***. He simply, and truthfully, promised the tribes that there will be no more sacrifices, and boy! Did they sent warriors! Wholesale slaughter. US side further north? Again, the US gov wouldn’t be particularly interested in truthful numbers – considering that they often broke treatise before the ink was dry. Conversely, those Injuns learned how to play the victim role, extremely well. I read how whites were treated, and how they treated their own kinds in addition or apart from that.

        So, where’s the truth? I don’t know. I exaggerated a bit, perhaps or rather likely, considering that bullshit article by Fitzgerald. Personally, I think that a good method for the western/northern peoples/nations to live in peace and tolerance is or would be to open the archives. Without reservations. I am of the opinion that we all have no skeletons in our cupboards, but entire graveyards!

        On a happier note, I mentioned above the “prevented population growth”:

        There’s a garden party, and a very old lady sits alone and keeps on giggling to herself, like mad. A younger member of the family gathering approaches her, and asks: “What’s the matter dear? What’s so funny? Is there something you don’t understand?” – Very patronizing. She laughs at him and says: “Everybody here’s alive because silly little ol’ me got laid over 80 years ago!”

        • Wellington says

          Jan 18, 2018 at 5:59 pm

          DFD: “Prevented population growth” is just high theory and should not be taken seriously. Certainly it should never be added to those actually murdered. BTW, even if every European had dealt with American Indians in what is now the US in as enlightened a fashion as William Penn did, huge numbers (most actually) would still have died because of that dearth of immunity to disease I already mentioned.

          As for Cortez, yeah, he was aided by Indian tribes like the Zapotec and Mixtec who were sick of being brutalized by the Aztec, including having their children sacrificed to the Aztec gods, which you alluded to. What I find both amusing and annoying is how the many wrongs of the American Indians are now, because of pc/mc, not mentioned or just glossed over but those of whites are mentioned ad nauseam.

          How phony. How stupid. How deceitful. How incomplete. Rather like castigating the West for its imperialism while at the same time describing Islamic imperialism as merely “Islam spreading.”

          As another example of this one-sided nonsense, one of the main reasons the Five Civilized Indian Tribes (Choctaw, Cherokee, Chickasaw, Creek and Seminole), in what is now Oklahoma, sided with the Confederacy is because they wanted to preserve their black slave system. Indeed, the very last Confederate General to surrender to Union troops was General Stand Watie, a Cherokee chief——-June 23rd, 1865, two and half months after General Robert E. Lee surrendered to General Ulysses S Grant at Appomattox, Virginia on April 9th. How many school textbooks mention all this nowadays? Oh yeah, I rest my case.

          Hope you and yours are well. Now, back to the fight against the worst religion of all time. Back to another fight too, i.e.,the refusal to accept the bastardization of history whereby the West is portrayed as iniquitous but all other civilizations and societies are described as essentially innocuous. Oh yeah, do we live in the Age of Nonsense or what?

        • eduardo odraude says

          Jan 18, 2018 at 9:31 pm

          Yes, Wellington, as I recall, historians today say that even before Europeans started coming in any significant numbers to the New World, nine-tenths of the Americas’ native populations had died because of their lack of immunity to diseases brought, unintentionally, by the very first Old World settlers. I believe that when Cortez and Pizarro arrived, one of several reasons their tiny bands could destroy whole civilizations was that those civilizations had previously been truly decimated by Old World diseases unintentionally transferred to the New World. This is not to say that Europeans and Euro-Americans never intentionally transferred disease to New World peoples, most of the destruction of the indigenous populations by disease was unexpected and unintentional and almost complete by the time Europeans were coming in significant numbers.

          While I disagree with some of the materialist assumptions and some of the materialist conclusions of Guns, Germs, and Steel, the book gives a brilliant account of why Eurasia got so far ahead of the Americas. One reason the Americas had no immunity to Old World diseases was that the New World had very few domesticable animals. Europe and Asia had by contrast been exposed to diseases picked up from half a dozen or so domesticated beasts not present in the New World.

        • eduardo odraude says

          Jan 18, 2018 at 9:34 pm

          “peoples, most”

          should read

          “peoples, but most”

        • CRUSADER says

          Jan 19, 2018 at 10:11 am

          Islam historically has killed off: 270 million souls over time.

          (see the comment farther below than this one, for further expounding)

  7. jewdog says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    I’ve watched Zeman in several YouTube speeches and he is right on the button. Somewhere I read that he has a commanding lead in the upcoming runoff – hope so.

  8. StellaSaidSo says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 3:43 pm

    Informative article, and informative posts – thanks to all contributors!

  9. Richard says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 4:24 pm

    ” OIC countries share a profound respect for all religions”

    Oh come on – pull the other leg its got bells on (except of course that Islamic countries don’t allow church bells)

    Saudi-Arabia – how many other religions have a house of worship?

    Pakistan Blasphemy laws.

    Turkey retains the Hagia Sophia and othe churches stolen during the Ottoman era.

    Indonesia – Christian mayor not elected because Islamic countries don’t respect other religions enough to actually vote for them (unlike Khan in the UK).

    I could go on….

    • eduardo odraude says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 9:09 pm

      Until a majority of Muslim-majority nations permit full freedom of religion, Muslim immigration to non-Islamic nations should stop. This is a logical and reasonable demand, surely.

  10. eduardo odraude says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    Mr. Fitzgerald wrote:

    But, I can imagine you are now wondering, how is it that the Germans, who experienced — who indeed were responsible for — Nazism, and then, in East Germany, also suffered from Communist rule, do not see things as the Visegrad Group peoples do?”

    I’d say the Visegrad group, having been trodden under foot by communism for so long, were relatively inoculated against the illusions of the left. The Germans, by contrast, having all been through an extreme right (Nazi) disaster, whereas only a part of the German population went through a leftist disaster, have been all the more vulnerable to leftish sympathies. Some Germans today evidently feel that any kind of discrimination would justify calling Germans Nazis. So such Germans are prepared to admit absolutely everyone from the wide world into Germany, and if people argue that a particular religious group (Islam) is part of a growing totalitarian movement with hundreds of millions of adherents backed by their holy texts, well, that can only be scapegoating and propaganda like the Nazis used to do to Jews. In short, many Germans are seeing things through a lens of the past, a lens that no longer applies.

    • eduardo odraude says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 9:19 pm

      I wrote a bit ambiguously above. To avoid misunderstanding, I’ll clarify. Some Germans think that to criticize Islam or stop Islamic immigration is wrong because it supposedly means doing to Muslims what Germans once did to Jews. The Germans thus use a lens of the past, a lens that is no longer applicable. Islam is not Judaism, and Muslims are not Jews. The intentions, numbers, and behaviors of the two groups are profoundly distinct. The Islamic beliefs of many in Muslim populations, populations which are growing rapidly and globally are already huge, represent a real threat to civil liberties, political rights, and democracy. Pew polls of Muslims and countless news stories make this clear. Jews, by contrast, even if they wanted to get rid of civil liberties — in fact they are among the chief defenders of such liberties — are too tiny a population to represent a threat to liberal democracy.

  11. Flavius Claudius Iulianus says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    Sorry Hugh , but the Sudetenland ethnic Germans were persecuted by the Czechs (along with several other ethnic minorities in the artificiality created state of Czechoslovakia). There is more than ample evidence for this. The Czechs were stupid because they gave Hitler the pretext he needed to take the country, its large munitions industry and its gold reserves (which Hitler needed because he recklessly depleted German reserves with his Reich Labour Service projects). To equate the Sudetenland Germans to the Palestinians is a highly unreasonable and slanderous stretch.

    The reason I support these moves of embassies to Jerusalem is that it is just good common sense. It reflects the *obvious* reality of the situation. Nothing more. Locations of embassies should not be decided based on whether or not it offends the unreasonable sensibilities of a certain difficult interest group. It’s as simple as that. Whether or not the Czechs sign on to this good common sense would, I imagine, have little to do with some of their history. No need to make any spurious historical analogies in order to glean some kind of parallel because you might find yourself caught in logical Chinese finger puzzle.

    (By the way, the country’s name is now officially “Czechia” and not the “Czech Republic” [although the government has been forced to acknowledge both names since few are aware of the new appellation].)

    • Wellington says

      Jan 19, 2018 at 1:42 pm

      Sudeten Germans were hardly innocent themselves. Konrad Henlein and his Sudeten Nazis did a lot of fifth column work leading up to Munich and more than a hundred Czech officials were murdered in the Sudetenland region in the years before Munich.

      • Flavius Claudius Iulianus says

        Jan 19, 2018 at 8:35 pm

        I hope you’re not justifying the genocidal attacks on a whole group of people based the politics or actions of a few.

        The average Joe and Jane like their historical figures to be wearing either black or white hats. They like their history simple. Real life and, subsequently, real history isn’t black and white. I find that as one gets into the details, history becomes more and more grey.

        A lot people don’t know that both the Hungarians and the Poles were making similar claims and military incursions into Czechoslovakian territory before Hitler invaded. Do those two groups get tarred with the big, broad, awkward brush of infamy?

        I don’t need to present evidence of the Czech’s genocidal attacks on the ethnic Germans of the region (both before and after the second world war); there’s lots of film footage evidence of it on youtube.

        My point is that Hugh’s analogy is an awkward and, I would argue, invalid one.

      • Wellington says

        Jan 21, 2018 at 10:50 pm

        I dispute your contention that the Czechs engaged in genocidal attacks on Sudeten Germans. Some discrimination with respect to land acquisition and the like but genocidal attacks? C’mon.

        Show me the money.

        Moreover, Konrad Henlein and his “boys” were more than just a “few.”

  12. Matthieu Baudin says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 11:42 pm

    “… how is it that the Germans, who experienced — who indeed were responsible for — Nazism, and then, in East Germany, also suffered from Communist rule, do not see things as the Visegrad Group peoples do? The explanation is complicated, but part of it must be that so eager are the Germans to show that they are tolerant, “anti-racist”… that they are demonstrating their … hypertrophied “anti-racism” by being especially solicitous of Muslims, who have been presenting themselves as ‘the new Jews’…”

    An alternative plausible explanation would view a significant proportion of Germany’s new political elite as having become tired of their post-war ‘special relationship’ with Jewish people and looking forward to severing ties to Israel. The mass influx of ‘outsiders’ affords a special opportunity for the job to be driven by non Germans and thus the ‘Jewish carriage’ can be unhooked from the ‘German locomotive’.

  13. CRUSADER says

    Jan 19, 2018 at 10:10 am

    If population figures are the matter of consideration….
    Dr Bill Warner (Political Islam) has these calculations:

    (Can’t even fathom the sheer numbers of souls cut short who never lived because of the genocides)

    Islam historically has killed off: 270 million souls over time.
    This includes the following:

    120 million Africans (slavery jihad)
    80 million Hindus
    60 million Christians
    10 million Buddhists

    “Tears of Jihad”
    ——————

    R.I.P.

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