Apologists for the millions of Muslim migrants that have been allowed into Western Europe paint these hordes as the indispensable response to the felt need for more workers. The president of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, recently told the German broadcaster Deutsche Welle that Europe “will clearly need immigration in the coming decades.” He further added that “we have to provide those who want to come and are able to come, and whose situation makes it possible for them to come, with legal paths to get to Europe. ” Those who “want to come”? Is that all? There are lots of those. What about admitting only those who “want to work”? Or is that a delicate subject Jean-Claude Juncker would prefer not to discuss?
A writer in Forbes declares:
“If Western Europe wants to keep its social benefits, the countries of the E.U. are going to need more workers. No place in the world has an older population that’s not into baby making than Europe. No wonder policy planners are doing what they can to encourage immigration.. Eastern Europe is old. The U.K.’s median age is approaching a mid-life crisis, currently at 40.5. With fertility rates expected to hit zero in Europe in the next decade, the only way the European Union can fight elderly poverty and maintain its expensive entitlement programs is to increase immigration. Another option is to provide incentives to convince 20 and 30-something-year-olds to have more than one baby.”
Europe “will clearly need immigration” — yes, it will be necessary to replenish the work force, but these articles in defense of immigration make no distinction between this group and that group, never specify which immigration, with what kind of immigrants, doing or not doing what kind of work, is to be preferred. We are simply to assume, despite all the mounting evidence to the contrary, that all immigrants are equally desirable, equal in their I.Q.s and vocational preparation, equal in their work ethic, equal in the amount they cost the state in social benefits and security costs, and equally likely to integrate successfully into the society of their host country.
We know that Muslims who arrive in Europe are usually described as “refugees,” but very few are real refugees fleeing persecution, and those few who are could find such refuge among people just like themselves, in language, religion, and sect, in the Middle East and North Africa. The only real refugees now coming to Europe from the Middle East are the Christians fleeing persecution and murder at the hands of Muslims.
The Muslims are, rather, “economic migrants,” but not the kind who seek work. In the 1950s, millions of Italians left Italy to find work in Germany, Belgium, Switzerland, South America — it was not easy to do so, no help was given by any government, and you had to have a sponsor from an employer or family member before being admitted. But those Italians who found work abroad considered themselves lucky, and readily took on the most difficult jobs, such as coal-mining, construction, factory work, in their host countries, and sending money back to families at home. They posed no security threat to the peoples of the countries they worked in; they were grateful for that work — it could not have been easy for them — and worked hard. And the same story can be told of others, such as the Portuguese who went to France seeking employment in the 1950s, and found it, and became, or their children became, French.
Compare this with Muslim migrants in Europe today. They seek, within Europe, to settle in the countries with the most generous welfare benefits, hence the eagerness with which they try to reach Germany or Sweden. They are not “economic migrants” the way Italians in the 1950s were, when they went off to work in Germany, or the Portuguese who went to France in the same period, seeking and finding employment. No, these Muslim migrants are not eager to find work. After more than one year of living in Germany, Switzerland, and the Netherlands, 80-99% of Muslim migrants are still unemployed. In Sweden, of 163,000 “refugees” admitted in 2016, just 494 — or 0.3% — had found jobs by mid-2017. The unemployment rates for Muslims are much higher than for non-Muslims all over Europe. The “work ethic” is hard to find among these migrants; the palpable pleasure many take in receiving this informal Jizyah from the Infidels, as if by right from the Infidels, is unsettling.
What is the real cost of Muslim immigrants to Europe? Given their unemployment rates, they require free housing, free education, free medical care, family allowances for a long time. They have large families, requiring larger apartments, and larger family allowances. As for the cost of medical care, because Muslims favor marriage between cousins, they have a much higher rate of congenital conditions, which last a lifetime and are expensive to treat.
Even for those Muslim migrants willing to work, fewer than one in four has even completed high school. They require considerable vocational training. This, too, runs into money.
And then there the colossal cost of extra security required everywhere there is a large-scale Muslim presence. Guards at churches and synagogues, Christian and Jewish schools, at airports, metro stations, bus stations, railroad stations, on subway cars, buses, and trains, at national monuments, at sports events, at concerts, at publishing houses — places that have been targeted before and could be targeted again, at any place where anti-Islamic speakers are featured (how much does it cost the Dutch state to guard just one such person — Geert Wilders?), at nightclubs and restaurants of note. Visit even a small city in France, and you will see well-armed soldiers on constant patrol, a dozen at a time. How many more must be conducting sweeps, constantly, through Paris, Bordeaux, Lyon, Toulouse, Marseilles? How many tens of billions of dollars are spent annually in Europe for such security measures, made necessary by Muslim terrorists? This, too, should be factored in as part of the cost of Muslim immigrants.
Europe needs immigrants, but which immigrants? It has now had extensive experience with Muslim immigrants; the results have been disastrous. Instead of contributing to European countries’ economies, these migrants have battened on the benefits provided by the state for as long as they can, in every way that they can. They have created a need for much greater security at every level. They do not integrate, but challenge the laws and customs and cultural assumptions of their hosts. Their large-scale presence has created a situation that is far more unpleasant, expensive, and physically dangerous for the native non-Muslims than would be the case without that Muslim presence.
There is another way. European countries should be seeking to bring large numbers of Christian migrants from Latin America to their countries. From Mexico southwards, there are enough unemployed or underemployed workers to supply the future needs of Europe. Right now there are at least 26 million unemployed people in Latin America and the Caribbean. To that, add the numbers who are underemployed, or whose current pay would rise considerably in Europe. They have a work ethic, as can be judged by the migrants from Mexico and Latin America who have already been contributing to the economy of the United States and Canada. Economic conditions in some of these countries — the dismal case of Marxist Venezuela (free violin lessons, no jobs) comes swimmingly to mind — are making people desperate to emigrate. And if the American government cuts down sharply on immigration from south of the border, this will encourage many who might have gone to the United States to migrate, instead, to Europe. They are not “refugees” and do not expect, as so many Muslim migrants seem to have done, to live on the dole. They want jobs.
Though not from Latin America, the nearly 200,000 Filipinas who now work in Italy as nurses and domestic workers have been among the most successful of all immigrants. They are Christians helping other, elderly, Christians. They try to fit in, and are much sought after as employees. Imagine, if you will, not Filipinas, but Arab Muslimahs as domestic help for Italians, and count the ways that would not work.
Millions of young workers, who share, instead of being contemptuous of, the beliefs of Europe’s Christian civilization, will be able to fill the vacancies and do the jobs that Europeans had previously believed, mistakenly, Muslim migrants would be happy to take. Unlike Muslims, these migrants will be able to integrate into European societies. They have not have been taught to regard Europeans as the “most vile of creatures.” They have not cursed the Kuffar 17 times a day, as part of their five daily prayers. They have not have been raised on the more than 100 verses in the Qur’an commanding Muslims to wage Jihad, nor been taught to emulate Muhammad, who boasted that he had “been made victorious through terror.” They are not taught to despise Infidel women, nor to take advantage of them. They belong, in short, to the same moral universe as the Europeans among whom they should be encouraged to settle.
Those Europeans, such as Geert Wilders, whom we are constantly told are “far-right” and “anti-immigrant,” are neither. They are intelligently opposed to Muslim immigrants, and they should start now to voice their support for “an immigration policy that makes sense,” putting paid to the canard that they oppose all immigrants, and introducing a note of sanity to Europe’s immigration policies. For too long, Europeans did not know what to expect from Muslim migrants; now they do. It still pains them to acknowledge their colossal error. Fortunately, there is a much more suitable source of migrants, those tens of millions of young people in Mexico and Latin America ready, willing, and able to work in Europe, and to integrate, into European societies. Contrast them with those who have been pouring into Europe from the Middle East and North Africa these last two decades, disrupting every country in which they settled, and demonstrating little desire either to work or to integrate, but a great desire to receive every possible benefit — those migrants whom the outspoken (“senza peli sulla lingua”) Oriana Fallaci called “the sons of Allah.”
Chet Bundy says
These same Euro-Socialists were enamored in 1972 with the Club of Romes’s “The Limits to Growth”, which postulated resource depletion of vital natural resources in the immediate future. This lead for their calls to stop population growth, (the Zero Population Growth movement), and RADICALLY REDUCE their future populations. Now that they have achieved their long-term goal they cry for immigrants…Fools then Fools now.
Andy says
Which Migrants?
I saw someone comment on some news outlet which read:
“Press one for English”
“Press two for go back to your sh*thole.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bPYZKJiImw
gravenimage says
Thanks for that link, Andy.
Andy says
My pleasure grave
BC says
First of all many EU states have a lot of unemployment especially youth. These unemployed are already culturally assimilated so what is the justification for taking in thousands of people who have no intention of assimilating into Western culture and are in fact opposed to it. They are also in many if not most cases uneducated and not able to take part in education due to low intelligence and language barriers. Most of the females will not be allowed to work by their male relatives and so will remain at home bearing children. In Germany and Austria only very small percentages of ‘migrants’ are so far involved in the economy and are just soaking up welfare. So where is the economic benefit?
J D S says
UNEMPLOYMENT??? What about NONEMPLOYMENT??? That’s what will happen when your country Is turned into a cesspool. AND THE WORLD STANDS STILL!
Custos Custodum says
Hugh Fitzgerald’s piece proves yet again that the migration by millions of Muslim men (“Operation 4M”) was carefully planned and is continuing for the sole purpose of undermining and destroying Western civilization.
The seemingly pointless importation of Muslim welfare-seekers serves as a pretext for the rapid abolition of all civil liberties throughout Europe.
At the same time, intentional overloading of government support systems is INTENDED to spread fear and despondency among the less well-off 98% of the respective populations.
China alone has easily more than 100 people who are intelligent and willing to work but unable to find more than subsistence-level jobs. If finding younger workers were really the objective, one could easily invite a few million from China.
The Chinese workers would happily learn basic language skills and acquaint themselves with the customs and history of their new homes BEFORE every setting foot on European soil. They would certainly NOT expect to eat without working from Day 1. A significant number would even voluntarily join new Christian churches. (Of course, the decrepit established couches may not like the competition.)
BOTTOM LINE: Operation 4M is a massive misdirection and smokescreen to introduce a neo-feudal totalitarian state for the benefit of a narrow elite. Finding workers/taxpayers/social security contributors was NEVER the objective.
Sexual and criminal VIOLENCE is a feature, not a bug, hence the rabid determination to bring in Muslim men rather than men AND WOMEN from cultures that honor and practise regular work.
Custos Custodum says
CORRECTION: China easily has over 100 MILLION people seeking work.
Frank says
Great column. Just think of how much better off Europe would now be if after World War II the door had been opened to tens of millions of Latin Americans. After the war Europe had a labor shortage and made a historic mistake by turning instead to Turkey and the Middle East. Europeans chose what increasingly looks like cultural suicide. By the same reasoning the US should be grateful to and more welcoming to admit and legalize immigrants from Latin America. It is Latin Americans who will prevent the US from being swamped by Muslim immigrants. Why doesn’t the Republican Party see this?
Frank says
Latin Americans, most of whom are Cristians, are not natural allies of Muslims. They have been forced to ally by overall Republican hostility to legalizing immigrants. This is stupid and suicidal for the Republican Party. The Republican strategy should be to divide and conquer. Lessen the effect of the Muslim tide by actively diluting it. Give current illegal immigrants, most of whom are Latino, a path to citizenship. Embrace them and welcome them to the US. Only in that way will the Republican Party save itself and possibly the country.
Wellington says
Frank: The Republican Party is not against immigration. But it is against illegal immigration. The US takes in more legal immigrants every year than the rest of the world combined but, c’mon, quit it already with the Republican Party is bad because it wants immigrants to follow legal immigration procedures. Besides, one can find many statistics that demonstrate that illegal immigrants are actually a drag on American society, respecting the amount of crime they commit per capita, the medical care they require, etc.
Legal immigration is the way things should proceed. Illegal immigration should not be condoned or rewarded. It’s a matter of respect for the law, for legal immigrants who do things the right way, for what is ethical and for common sense.
As for Latin Americans per se, yes, here we are in agreement. They are far preferable to Muslim immigrants but I would add enough already with all the Spanish language alternatives once arriving in the US. Learn English. After all, if you move to, say, Costa Rica, learn Spanish. A bilingual nation is a divided nation and the US right now is doing a very stupid thing. It is actually in the process of taking the great unifying factor which is a common language and deliberately making America into a bilingual country. This is moronic.
Frank says
Of course I recognize the difference between legal and illegal immigration. But does Trump and the Republican Party? Consider one of the dumbest things Trump has done. He slighted Puerto Rico after the hurricane when he should have gone all out to show Americans that these CITIZENS were as fully worthy of support and aid as the hurricane victims in Florida and Texas. He should have sent a large emergency flotilla of aid ships to Puerto Rico, and he should have coupled this with rhetoric praising the people of Puerto Rico for their hard work, patience in adversity, and loyalty—witness the many of them in the military. Trump could have become a HERO to them. Instead he made disparaging comments about their corruption and ingratitude. The result is he has driven them further into the arms of the Democratic Party. He has painted himself and Republicans as anti-Latino and this paint (taint) will likely persist for generations. And many people of Puerto Rico are now emigrating to the mainland where they have the right to vote in elections. Who do you think they will vote for? It’s already predicted they and their Latino allies will swing Florida permanently to the Democratic column. Look, a demographic tide is sweeping the US and much of the world, and I hope Republicans don’t think they can hold it back forever thru gerrymandering and voter suppression. They need to get smart and set their priorities if they want to lessen the chance of Islamicization. They need to stop the anti-Latino rhetoric and start looking for ways to make common cause with them—and shatter the Latino-Muslim alliance. There are over 10 million illegal immigrants in the US, most of them Latino, and they aren’t going away. They won’t leave voluntarily and Americans will never agree to funding mass deportations—leaving aside the public relations disaster if we tried to deport them all. My solution is for Republicans to pick a recent date and push to legalize anyone in the country by that date, unless they have committed a felony or committ one in the future. Then tighten the border and mandate the use of everify by employers to verify legal status before hiring, with enforced severe penalties for employers who don’t comply (this is what was missing from the immigration deal of the 1980s). Also, new illegal immigrants should be ruthlessly deported without giving them extended stays here awaiting appeal. If Republicans did these things they would become heroes to the Latino community and more of them would consider voting Republican. I see this as the only way forward for the Republican Party and for the nation. Otherwise we will have full Democratic control with close-to-open borders and a push to import millions more Muslim “refugees.”
As for the issue of too many Spanish speakers, I think your fears are overblown. How many Latinos do you know who were born in the US and don’t speak English? There are very few. Latino immigrants will continue to learn English because it is the language of opportunity. Please put it in perspective. Would you rather have an increasing number of Americans who speak Arabic?
Wellington says
You rather shifted things on me, Frank. I was talking legal immigration versus illegal immigration and you went to Puerto Rico. Respecting which fake news made it look like Trump didn’t care about what happened there when, in fact, he sent tons of aid right away but if was the San Jose uber-liberal mayor and the Democrats who portrayed Trump as uncaring and you bought this.
As for legalizing illegals, I would agree to this only if 1) the Wall is built first; 2) they go back to the end of the line behind legal immigrants and 3) they pay a fine for their breaking of the law.
Respecting Spanish emerging as a second language and thus creating permanent division, I think you underestimate things here. Virtually every time I get something in the mail, like I just got today, the missive is in English and Spanish. Ditto when you make a telephone call to just about any business in America or any government agency. Not a good thing.
Frank says
I brought up Puerto Rico as an example of counterproductive anti-Latino rhetoric that alienates people in Puerto Rico as well as the tens of millions of Latinos who are here as citizens or LEGAL residents. When you badmouth Illegal Latinos don’t you think their legal relatives and friends are also listening, and it encourages them to embrace a welcoming Democratic Party? And in the case of Puerto Rico, I didn’t “buy” anything from the media. I heard Trump’s OWN words and he did make comments about corruption, financial mismanagement, and ingratitude. Now ask yourself this question: If a hurricane had knocked out the electricity on most of Long Island, do you think 3 months later almost half of the island would still be without power? The response in Puerto Rico was inept and half-hearted and Trump’s rhetoric itself stimulated harsh criticism. What a missed opportunity!
I support some kind of improved border wall, but don’t delude yourself that the topography will make it possible to be a tall concrete barrier thousands of miles long. Trump’s chief of staff Kelly admitted as such just last week. Also, I’m sure you know about half of the people here illegally came on a legal visa and overstayed, so an improved wall by itself won’t keep them out. That’s why I mentioned strictly enforcing everify. No jobs generally means no illegal immigrants.
I focused primarily on what is smart politically for the Republicans. So if you treat newly-legalized immigrants too harshly you will undermine the political benefits, Again, Republicans need to be smart and set priorities. Obsession with an increased number of Spanish speakers is a low priority and counterproductive. And you didn’t answer my question about how many American-born Latinos don’t also speak English.
Wellington says
That should be San Juan and not San Jose, though anymore there probably isn’t that much difference ethnically speaking.
Wellington says
On the specific matter of how many American-born Latinos speak English, I will answer you now: So what? Spanish is still being raised, de facto, to a second language status in the US. I don’t want any second language raised to a de facto second language in America but that is exactly what is occurring. It is not a good development. It augurs for division, not unity.
And should Puerto Rico ever come in as the 51st state, God forbid, then there will be an even greater demand to raise Spanish to an equal status with English. Hell, it’s already half way there as I already outlined. Look to Canada to see how a bilingual nation, whether de facto or de jure, suffers precisely because they are a bilingual nation (i.e., all the Quebec separatism rot over the last half century). Nothing is more unifying than a common language. It’s great if another language is spoken in the home, but for purposes of voting, etc., I want only one language used in America——-English.
I trust I have made myself crystal clear here. One more thing. I would add a fourth condition to any legalization to illegals here in America and it is this: Any such legislation doing so should make it abundantly clear that after a certain date (a very soon one) no illegal will EVER be able to become an American citizen.
Frank says
I fully agree with your last paragraph.
On the language issue, are you aware that throughout most of the world English is taught from childhood on as a second language? So much of the world is already bilingual. I remember once in Europe overhearing a 3-way conversation between a Swede, a Frenchman, and an Italian—they all talked in English because that was the only language they had in common. Their English wasn’t perfect but they made themselves understood. English will continue as the lingua franca as long as the Anglosphere is dominant economically and militarily. As I said before, English is the language of opportunity and most Latino immigrants will insist their children become fluent in it. So don’t worry about traveling in the US and most of the world and not being able to be understood. Now of course it would be great if all people in the US conversed only in English—but that ship has sailed. It’s too late for monolingualism, and I would urge you to look more at general cultural uniformity rather than purity of language. Think about how much culturally we have in common with Spanish speakers, as contrasted with the sharp cultural divide from Muslims. That is where the threat lies, not with the Spanish speaking family next door.
Wellington says
I still want voting ballots, et al. only in English. If you can’t read English well enough to vote, get a cable hook-up, etc., here in the US, too damn bad. I don’t mean to be harsh, only realistic. Anything smacking of bilingualism (or more) can only lead to the Balkanizing of America, which is already, unfortunately, in progress.
My God, when Newt Gingrich years ago proposed English as the official language of the US he was called a bigot, a hater, even though terribly oppressive countries like Norway and Sweden have an official language. Oh the humanity!
gravenimage says
Frank wrote:
When you badmouth Illegal Latinos don’t you think their legal relatives and friends are also listening
……………………………….
And you are using this as an argument that we *need* more people who support illegal immigration in? Hard to accept this.
Save Europe says
Here in the UK, I’ve always espoused that we should have imported Argentines over Muslims.
Carolyne says
Frank perhaps is unaware that the government of Puerto Rico gave themselves millions of dollars in bonuses for Christmas? Where does he think this money came from? It was part of Mr. Trump’s largesse to Puerto Rico to help them recover from the devastating hurricane, not line the pockets of the rich. This has been the history of Puerto Rico throughout its history. How dare you criticize Donald Trump for not doing enough. He did too much
Frank says
What is the source of your information? I’m not saying you are wrong but I would like to verify it. If true it would indeed be scandalous.
Frank says
The issue was new to me so I did some online research after my prior reply. According to Bloomberg News, yes, Xmas bonuses were paid in Puerto Rico in accordance with a law in effect for decades—so not paying them would have violated Puerto Rican law, and one can argue the law should be changed. But these bonuses did not, as you put it, line the pockets of the rich. They were paid to thousands of current and retired employees, and the average bonus was around $600. The total of the bonuses was about 100 million dollars and Puerto Rico asked for about $100 billion in Federal disaster aid—so the bonuses represent about a whopping one tenth of one percent of potential Federal aid. So don’t you think this story was blown out of proportion? Now I know you want to be fair and balanced, so I want to ask you a few questions, and I don’t know the answers to these questions. How much Federal disaster aid will Texas and Florida receive for hurricane relief? Did the states of Texas and Florida pay out Xmas bonuses to any of their government employees, and if so, how much? Perhaps Congress should pass a law prohibiting Xmas bonuses for any jurisdictions that apply for Federal disaster aid. Would you support such a law? Also, in light of the huge Federal budget debt and deficit, would you support eliminating bonuses and awards for all Federal employees? I’m not trying to pick on you. And I’m not denying there is corruption in Puerto Rico, as there is in all the states. Is there any evidence the corruption is worse in Puerto Rico? My concern is that Puerto Rico—home to American citizens—not be treated any better or any worse than the 50 states. I hope no one thinks they deserve less just because they speak Spanish.
Custos Custodum says
ALL OF LATIN AMERICA has for decades cultivated political corruption and government dependency.
A democracy needs citizens, not serfs and helots who vote and demonstrate for whichever Big Man with an entourage of thugs promises more benefits.
mortimer says
Illiterate or barely literate migrants with an averageof about 5.6 years of schooling, who cannot speak European languages and who despise European women as potential sex slaves have no place in Europe. These unemployables cannot add anything of value to Europe. They reduce the benefits available to the needy of Europe. They do nothing to aid the economy. They hate Europe’s culture and traditions and wish to destroy them, but that is their chief charm in the eyes of the globalists.
The migrants are their to bust up European tradition.
MFritz says
Your scenario is not realistic.
It’s the muslim nurse of day care who won’t come to your parents’ place for them being christians. And the muslim doctor that won’t help and treat you because you’re a “kafir”. And he can afford this kind of behaviour because he has enough “other” patients”. It’s the “imported” street gang in the corner that cuts you with their knifes laughing all the time because your life isn’t worth anything to them. It’s the “sharia police” who insults your wife because she doesn’t wear a hijab. Or the “groomer” who rapes your daughter and turns her into a whore and heroin addict. Or the judge who won’t protect your against such crimes because you’re obviously of the “wrong” ethnicity. And finally the politician who promise you everything, but only wants to help further the cause of his “friends” and install sharia law.
Save Europe says
Very true! Anjem Choudhry, the vile (now imprisoned) Muslim hate preacher always called the Job Seekers’ Allowance as the Jihad Seekers’ Allowance and maintained it was a jizya tax paid to Muslims, by us, Infidels.
MFritz says
We do not need migrants, we need proper SOCIAL POLITICS. But our politicians only serve big business these days, so no money must be spent on us. It must all go to them. We have to guarantee their bank bailouts, accept hideous and unnecessary privatisations that do ENORMOUS amounts of damage to the public good. And lower our living standards and accept lower wages so that a few PARASITES may become even richer.
The media always equal better “economics” with better “infra structure” and the well being of a few big companies with the well being of a whole country. BUT THOSE ARE NOT ONE AND THE SAME!
And “whataboutism” doesn’t DO IT. It’s just a lazy excuse to shift the blame from shitty politics to other places. Because there’s always another shithole on earth where people have LESS than us. But we do not have and we do not need to BECOME a shithole too.
And we do not have to become third world countries just because some globalist SOCIOPATHS (and their cronies in the parliaments) want lower wages right at their front step.
Thomas Kimball says
Imagine waking up to the feeling of your throat being cut and the last thing you see is your Muslim servant standing over you with a bloody kitchen in his hand! Did somebody poison all the water supplies in Europe? Just how stupid and suicidal are these people?Who puts these idiot leaders in power?
Thomas Kimball says
That was supposed to be “bloody kitchen knife”
Save Europe says
Nooooot me!!!!!
dan christensen says
We understand – fill up the earth with useless 2-legged creatures and watch the spectacular global suicide!
Europe leads the way.
cornelius says
Hugh hits the nail on the head. Europe NEEDS immigrants. It’s the TYPE of immigrant that matters. Hindu and Sikh immigrants to the UK have integrated seamlessly into British society, while their Muslim counterparts are continually disaffected and prone to social pathologies. The same can be said for Vietnamese immigrants in France as opposed to their Muslim counterparts.
Eventually, if the Western world is going preserve its culture of freedom and tolerance, we are going to HAVE to find a way to exclude Muslims from immigration into our societies. There are several ways we could go about doing this….
1) Allow immigration only from countries that practice freedom of conscience and gender equality (exceptions being given to those being persecuted for precisely those reasons in countries that don’t qualify)
2) Re-classifying Islam as a political party, ideology,…something other than a religion.
Frank says
First, Western countries will never be able to exclude ALL Muslim immigrants. It’s politically impossible and not even necessary. Second, you’re never going to convince most people that Islam is a political ideology and not a religion. The solution is for the European Parliament, responding to pressure from its citizens, to appropriate money to actively recruit and transport Latin Americans—say 5 million of them—to Europe. Most of them will be non-Muslim and it should be done in the interest of “balance.” As the percentage of Muslims in Europe then declines, the current problems will ameliorate. Otherwise Europe is doomed to cultural suicide.
StellaSaidSo says
I agree that 5 million non-Muslim immigrants would help to redress the balance – but they would need to breed as fast as Muslims to maintain that balance. Do Latin American Catholics still have large families?
People are already coming to the conclusion that Islam is a political rather than a religious ideology, so now might be a good time to begin an organised push for re-classification, or at least get the subject on the table for discussion. Text analysis of the Koran and Hadith reveals approx. 20% religious content, and 80% political content, so the argument for removal of religious status is well-supported.
JawsV says
Over 60% of the Koran concerns waging war against the Infidels (non-Muslims).
Stella, I’d like to recommend “Wholly Different” by Nonie Darwish (2017). You’d like it. That’s where I learned the above.
Save Europe says
Very true Stella! Their birth rates are the largest concern. Agreed.
StellaSaidSo says
Thanks, JawsV, another excellent title to add to a rapidly expanding counter-jihad library! You’re right, most of the Koran is about eliminating the kuffar. Indeed, the Koran is the most vicious, unambiguous, detailed declaration of war ever penned. Our ancestors knew this, and took the necessary steps to defend Western civilisation. Had they not done so, Europe might have succumbed to Islam a thousand years ago. Freedom is not free; it must be fought for. And right now it’s our turn to fight.
JawsV says
Cornelius, Islam is a religion. A bad religion. It should be considered a bad religion that instructs the adherents to kill others (Jihad) and then get rewarded for killing (martyrdom, 72 virgins, Islamic paradise).
Terry Gain says
JawsV
Islam is not a religion. One of the few things Obama said which cannot be gainsaid is that ” no religion condones killing.” Since Islam not only condones killing but commands it, a command obeyed for 1396 years, by Obama’s very reasonable standard Islam is not a religion.
In addition, you have Muhammud as the alleged (self proclaimed) prophet. He was a terrorist, murderer of critics, mass murderer of those who wouldn’t submit to him, slave taker, sexual slave taker, caravan robber, sex addict, misogynist and pedophile – and he hated dogs. He recruited his army by promising a carnal paradise where women were treated as ever available and ever virgin and men had perpetual erections.
So all of these facts about Muhammud raise the question: what kind of God would choose such a man as His Prophet? The answer is obviously, None.
The greatest gift we can give to humanity is to mock Islam out of existence. It is irrational and a threat.
Prabh108 says
World-wide Abuse of Bharat labour in construction, non-veg agriculture and so-called hi-tech or ‘entertainment industry’ is intolerable.
Friends: this is NOT Camp of Saints: this is camp of criminals.
om shanti om
JawsV says
I’ve always wondered why he titled it “The Camp of the Saints.” Is the title ironic? I haven’t read it, just heard about it.
gravenimage says
Jaws, the reference comes from the Bible–Revelation 20:7-9, depicting the apocalypse. Satan influences most of the nations of the Earth to gather for one final battle against “the camp of the saints,” before being defeated for eternity:
“And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them…”
He may have meant it ironically; or, given the logistics here, is probably referring to Europe as the camp of the saints.
JawsV says
Thanks, graven. I had no idea. Now I do. Yes, I’m sure Europe is the camp/saints. Certainly the Moslem invaders aren’t. I have a feeling who they are in your above reference. I hope we’re not in the one final battle. Thanks again.
gravenimage says
Now you hate high tech, too? Why are you using a computer or phone to post here, then? Isn’t that high tech?
JawsV says
Who are you replying to?
WorkingClassPost says
Interesting that since the ‘helping refugees’ scam has been exposed, we’re now talking about the ‘needing migrants’ one.
The EU has a history in this area. The original charter spoke of the “Free movement of workers”, which somehow morphed into the free movement of anybody, even, according to Merkl, accepting forced quotas for unvetted, unregistered and unwanted non EU persons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement_for_workers_in_the_European_Union
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Europe “will clearly need immigration” — yes, it will be necessary to replenish the work force…
Almost never is it mentioned that all of this is driven by the Pill, by declining birth rates in the native populations of developed nations. It’s by the absence of birth that the grotesque, and historical act of self-ethnocide proceeds. Spengler was right. Both of them.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
And the Moslem part is growing, both in numbers and in power. About a decade ago the Philippine government granted Mindanao Island semi-autonomous authority as a concession to the big Moz population down there, which is about one third of the country’s total land mass. I give the Philippines about 25 yrs before the country goes Sharia.
Save Europe says
Note as well, how bad it has escalated down in the Koranderthal part of the country. Infiltrated by ISIS, and much fighting.
Hugh Fitzgerald says
Ye, but they are not the ones admitted to Italy.
gravenimage says
True, Hugh.
Carol says
The declining birth rates in Europe could also be due to abortion as well as the destruction of the family. With families not being so popular in place of jobs or schooling, as well as birth control and abortion available, it is no wonder the population is declining. Match this with the Muslim mass immigration where child marriage and polygamy as well as large families are extolled and we get these results. I wouldn’t mind if the immigrants integrate with the prevailing culture and work to within the country for it’s own good. Those who want to enforce Sharia law should go back to their country of origin or one that promotes that political system.
CRUSADER says
Interesting concept:
Make a legal decree across Europe that implementing Shariah in any aggressive form, and in any form of demand contrary to European laws and customs will be grounds for immediate expulsion of immigrant doing so. Any support group of such immigrant guilty of such Shariah practice also gets dismantled.
Recognize that practice of stiff Shariah and demands that society change to accommodate Shariah is
an ideology antithetical to European freedoms, and grounds for draconian measures to be undertaken.
That should do it.
If Muslims don’t want to live as “Dhimmis” under European Western laws and customs, then they get
deported.
This is what the Normans had done in Sicily: turned the Dhimma upon the Muslims, and that really did a lot to turn matters around there.
So, we have a historical example to now follow.
StellaSaidSo says
Agree, CRUSADER.
One minor quibble, however: Sharia in ANY form is aggressive.
Save Europe says
I DO agree, but it would be very hard to police, as it would become ‘increasingly underground.’ There are so many of them who want Shariah – depending on various stats in various countries – anything from 25 to 51 percent of them.
Terry Gain says
Crusader
We have to be careful not to turn ourselves into what we reject as inconsistent with our values. One of our values – a value completely at odds with Islam’s supremacism – is equality of citizenship. Once here, Muslims are entitled to the rights of all citizens. They should not be targeted or discriminated against. However, in view of their support for an ideology which is supremacist, intolerant, totalitarian, violent and barbaric, In order to protect our way of life – and theirs – we need to eliminate further Muslim immigration. Sorry Muslms, but our freedoms are more important to me than your feelings or embarrassment over being an adherent of this incompatible ideology.
Custos Custodum says
Big mistake to get involved in deciding what is or isn’t Sharia, which parts are acceptable, etc.
Simple rule: all illegal migrants are shipped to whichever Third World country is willing to accept them for a reasonable fee. No ifs, no buts.
WE OWE YOU NOTHING. Colonialism ended decades ago and was a massive boon to ordinary women and men in colonial societies. (Of course the displaced local tyrants and their clans never stopped bitching and moaning about losing their absolute power.)
Build your own countries. You’re welcome to use our technology and copy our culture – in your countries.
CRUSADER says
Have all European men take Viagra at once.
Have of them watch adorable baby pictures.
Have all immigrants eat bacon for a month.
Sarah says
The whole idea that having an aging and contracting population means a nation must import large numbers of immigrants to replace the tax paying pool, just doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Right now, across the West, the Baby Boomer generation is in the throes of retirement. They are a rather large generation, the last one wherein it was common to have multiple children per family. So we’re seeing a sudden expansion in cost and scale on welfare and healthcare for the elderly as a result.
And as is inevitable, the Baby Boomers will die out. They will continue to age and their numbers will start to drop as they move into advanced ages. That’s the circle of life. Once the Boomer generation has passed on, we in the West are going to experience a sudden and considerable contraction, wherein we can claw back all of those tremendous costs that we had to push into play to care for the Boomers. Because Gen X and Gen Y and the Millenials – we are all much smaller generations in size.
Nowhere have I seen a Politician come out with figures to show that post Boomer generation, that the three generations thereafter, will be too few in number to fiscally support the other in retirement. When Gen X steps up to the plate for retirement, there are enough Gen Y and Millenials to cover the load. Remember – the welfare and healthcare costs for Gen X are going to be heavily reduced for Gen X – they are a smaller generation. It’s not like Gen Y and the Millenials have to cover a set of costs the same size as what was needed for the Boomers.
Each generation is successively shrinking because of lowering birth rates. These Politicians want to see higher birth rates? It’s very simple. It has nothing to do with female emancipation – for every Western woman who chooses to not be a Mother, you have 10 more Western women eagerly lining up for parenthood. It is because of the cost. People can’t afford a larger family and maintain the Western standard of living anymore. Kids are goddamn expensive and our society and our culture have a strong streak of narcissism and greed running throughout. We want it all, we want it now and we refuse to sacrifice it, once we have it.
So stop burning our tax dollars on utter bullshit and redirect the huge sums that are clawed from the populace into lowering the cost of living and shoring up the Boomer retirement fund. Make it more desireable to have lots of kids by guaranteeing paid maternity leave and bring in paid paternity leave. Men have every right to the same. Cut the social engineering by handing out welfare to families, give them tax cuts and incentives instead of cash cheques to reward higher birthing rates. Keep the cost of daycare DOWN,stop the outrageous profiteering in that industry.
Then on the flipside while you’re encouraging everyone to knock out babies, start a massive growth program. We need jobs. Well paying, secure jobs that help to stimulate the economy, increase fiscal growth and send the GDP soaring. So get started on job creation programs – and this NEVER means creating public service roles. Invest in industry and infrastructure – get the private sector booming.
Buggar immigrants. Unless we have roles that have to be filled wherein we cannot find people in our own nation’s to fill them, then no-one should be emigrating on the basis of a job and expecting permanent residency or eventual citizenship. Immigrants of any kind should have to prove why they are a value add to the nation they want to come to. We want the best, not the dregs.
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Or you have the alternative viewpoint, which is, the bloody LAST thing we want to be doing as a species, is increasing birthing, whether first world or third world. Why? Because of robotics, AI and automation. We are staring down the barrel at a future, wherein there is going to be massive job losses across the West in the coming decades – we do NOT NEED to be importing workers, whether skilled or unskilled. And we especially do not need to be importing more welfare users. We are perilously late already, to the very real need to transform our nation’s to cope with the future and what it’s going to bring.
Lowered birthrates are going to be a good thing in the coming decades – because we aren’t going to have mass numbers of low and medium skill jobs to give future generations. Plus there is the whole ‘the world population is skyrocketing and there’s only one damn planet’. There’s talk of future wars being held over things like food and water for Pete’s sake – and you want to UP birth rates? No, population reduction is a very good thing in this respect.
What bloody jobs are these Immigrants supposed to take, in Europe? Even if they were hard working and wanting to work? Automation is going to wipe the slate clean on a good 80% of the low and medium skill jobs. You want them to pick fruit,or assemble cars in a factory? Sorry – automation will take care of that very soon. You want them to make coffees and sell T-shirts in Department stores? Sorry automation strikes again – along with the destruction of the classic retail industry thanks to the internet and online shopping. You want them to build houses and fix pipes? Again, automation is going to take care of almost all of that and most likely ALL of that, within the next few decades. We won’t need Accountants, we won’t need anywhere near the number of Doctors and Nurses, we won’t need Police Officers and Firefighters. We won’t need most Lawyers, we won’t need Dentists, we won’t need Project Managers – AUTOMATION is going to annhilate so much of what we view as the norm, today.
Bringing in these Immigrants is to create a class with lesser rights,a lower standard of living and a far grimmer future. I cannot believe that after all these centuries, the human species has found democracy – and is heading straight back into a feudal peasantry class structure again.
gravenimage says
True, Sarah. And Japan has an aging population, but they are importing very few immigrants. Their standard of living has not suffered.
Terry Gain says
And they are not committing cultural suicide.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Just as a point of interest, raising kids really doesn’t have to be expensive. This seems to me to be another one of those ‘expenses of higher expectations”, self created, problems.
Sure, if you want to decorate a brand new baby room, fill it with all brand new furniture, buy all the clothes from the ‘baby store’ along with all new toys, and then a new car seat and new buggy and then buy ‘baby food’ that’s worse than junk food, and everything else new new new new new, it’s going to be hideously expensive.
But none of that is necessary. At all.
All of our nations were settled by people who had basically nothing compared to us, and they did it while hacking living out of hostile territory and raising large families.
It can be done…and it should be done 🙂
Lydia Church says
The fact is that the globalists want them to come.
It suits their agendas.
The rest is irrelevant to them and obviously there is not much
anyone else is going to do about it either.
No Fear says
In other words: If you don’t want your country to turn into a Sharia sh*thole, don’t import people who want the Sharia and who think they are better than you.
Garfield says
Every day a little more of the heinous supremacist ideology that Islam is is exposed. Slowly people are realising Muslims are the ONLY group that cant and won’t assimilate but rather swarms into civilized nations bringing only perversion, violence and hate.
No one needs crazed islamofacists to come leech welfare, spit on our culture, rape and disrupt society with their nazi-like ideas. No one needs women covered I’m headbags sneering at free western women. No one needs taxi drivers who won’t carry pork or alcahol.
They hate us. They come with taquiyya to plunder and destroy. But its not working anymore! Praise the Lord and/or common sense, according to your beliefs!
Custos Custodum says
The heinous ideology of GLOBALISM is infinitely more insidious than Islam.
Islam is being used as a cat’s paw to subvert local populations. Totalitarian rule replete with death camps is the ultimate aim.
Terry Gain says
No. Islamic doctrine and history are a matter of record. Globalism is a theory. If you cannot completely discredit Islam you are wasting your time attacking Globalism.
libertyORdeath says
With the world’s population spiraling out of control, most notably in Asia, could it actually be a positive trend for Europeans to decrease their “baby making” for a time? Regardless of the answer, i can say with great confidence that the answer to declining birth rates in the West is NOT to replace our citizens and children from the overpopulated places of the world. Honestly, I will take the supposed problems of low birth rates over the shitstorm that has already descended on countries like India, China and Indonesia.
I’m surprised that the same liberals who are incensed by the destruction of our environment (much of which can be directly tied to unsustainable population growth) are the same people in support of the replacement of modern cultures with less evolved ones with no care for anything but globalism.
Save Europe says
“If Western Europe wants to keep its social benefits, the countries of the E.U. are going to need more workers.
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In other words, welfare system is a complete Ponzi Scheme! What is the point of bringing in statistically proven, people who live, primarily ON tax credits and don’t work or pay tax. In the UK – 75 percent of Muslim women DON’T work. 55-65 percent of their men don’t work!
UNCLE VLADDI says
Politicians in Western democracies are all equally corrupt.
Remember when propagandists encouraged all the women to enter the workforce, demanding equality; saying it was “unfair” and men were enslaving them?
That one scam garnered the business community double the number of available workers in their collective labour pool, and at half the former wages.
So what if suddenly Canadians had to have less children because all the potential mothers were at work with dad in stead of at home raising them?
Well, as usual, they are again failing upwards: the lack of replaceable labour to keep their pension pyramid schemes afloat, means they now again “have to” import huge numbers of cheap-labour muslims from their 3rd-world slave-pens to replace us, again doubling the number of workers while halving our wages.
And their pet politicians & media who slander and shame us into Submitting to our replacement get promised big fat pension augments on their director boards.
Replacing their largest and most easily-cut cost – worker’s salaries – is what’s really behind the globalist corporazi oil-banksters “pity the migrants, you racists!” scam. Always follow the money. And of course the socialist labour union dupes, being in a symbiotic relationship with the globalists, support their own suicide.
Rinse and REPEAT endlessly!
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Replacing their largest and most easily-cut cost – worker’s salaries – is what’s really behind the globalist corporazi oil-banksters “pity the migrants, you racists!” scam”
I’m having trouble accepting this idea. It doesn’t make sense.
If it were true, why did germany recently mandate a minimum wage?
Why did the minimum wage in Ontario just get raised by the largest percentage of any minimum wage increase ever made anywhere in the world?
Our industries don’t have the need for masses of cheap labor anymore. There aren’t the coal mines, farms or factories employing thousands of low skill workers anymore. There are in China etc, but they don’t to import workers anyway.
I don’t get it 🙂
Bindon Blood says
The point is that this is all about Muslims. The EU wants Muslims,not anyone else. They want Muslims because they want to create an Islamo/ European borderless power and trade bloc. It has been planned for decades. The EU and the OIC and the UN have formulated plans and agreements to create this new Islamized Europe . Obviously the European people were kept in the dark.
Politicianophobia says
Why did my son and his wife, to productive working people, pay 10,000 dollars and wait for 6 years to become American citizens. Should they have just walked over the border, hmmm somebody needs to get to the end of the line.
libertyORdeath says
Illegal immigrants not only get to skip the lines and the fees, but they also are usually given free education, food, medical coverage and even cash for entering illegally. It’s also so important to democrats to continue this travesty that they will shut down our govt. in order to ensure that more people are given an edge over real immigrants.
Eric jones says
Mass immigration is a scam. Any country that does not have full employment for its citizens has no business accepting immigrants.Ban all work visas. The USA has not had anywhere near full employment since the late 1960’s.
What nations need for prosperity is an educated workforce, applied technology and an emphasis on maintaining infrastructure. Japan and now China are examples of this economic approach. What poor countries need is to develop their physical economies like China and Japan has. Like the USA used to do.
An aging population is a specious argument. Because of better nutrition, public health and education a healthy sixty year old in 2018 is more fit for work than a sixty year old in 1935, generally speaking.
All western nations have groups of its citizens who are unemployed or under employed. In the USA its Blacks Latinos, poor Whites and Native Americans .Until these groups of unemployed or underemployed citizens are gainfully employed immigration should not be allowed.
Eric