Refugees in Europe are just “Muslim invaders” and economic migrants seeking better lives, Hungarian PM Viktor Orban has said, adding that the large number of Muslims in the EU had led to the appearance of ‘parallel societies.’
Many Western societies have been historically built on immigrants seeking better lives, welcoming in peaceful refugees who recognized the two-way-street responsibility between immigrants and their host country. Times have changed.
Hijrah, or jihad by emigration, is, according to Islamic tradition…To emigrate in the cause of Allah – that is, to move to a new land in order to bring Islam there, is considered in Islam to be a highly meritorious act.
While peaceful Muslims are among the vast streams of refugees, the prevalent concern is not about the peaceful ones. It is about Sharia-ingrained world views of supremacy and expansion, the jihad threat and the import of what Canada’s former Harper government once termed “barbaric cultural practices.” This should not be difficult to understand.
Orban specifically targeted Germany and Chancellor Angela Merkel’s ‘open-door’ policy towards asylum seekers. “I’ve never understood how chaos, anarchy and illegal border crossings are viewed as something good in a country like Germany, which we view as the best example of discipline and the rule of law
Orban has also stated clearly on many occasions that “migration turned out to to be the Trojan horse of terrorism.” The Islamic State was successful in infiltrating its terrorists into the refugee streams to the West, posing grave dangers to homeland security.
Orban is consistently described in such terms as “hardliner,” “xenophobic,” and “Islamophobic,” the same used to describe anyone who opposes suicidal immigration policies on rational grounds. Distinctions between helping vetted refugees and immigrants versus flinging open the door wide to immigrants from Islamic states that are jihadi hotspots are routinely ignored. Western leaders have and had the duty to protect their citizens.
Orban has predicted in past that “Europe will become divided into two parallel societies with Muslims living in their own enclaves under different leaders and laws.” He was right. Sweden is suffering the collapse of its once-peaceful society, with the rapid expansion of violent no-go zones, causing even police to fear going to work. Migrant youths turned a shopping centre into no-go zone. Orban also stated that “along with parallel societies comes a parallel legal system,” and that “many Muslim families secretly want their own religious laws put in place in European countries.” Britain already has over 85 Sharia courts, in which women are being returned to abusive husbands.
“Refugees are ‘Muslim invaders’ seeking better lives – Hungarian PM”, RT News, January 8, 2017:
Refugees in Europe are just “Muslim invaders” and economic migrants seeking better lives, Hungarian PM Viktor Orban has said, adding that the large number of Muslims in the EU had led to the appearance of ‘parallel societies.’
Asked in an interview with the German Bild newspaper why Budapest does not want to accept any refugees, Orban replied: “We don’t consider these people to be Muslim refugees.” Instead, the tough-talking politician said they were regarded as “Muslim invaders.”
Asylum seekers must cross four countries to reach Hungary from Syria, all of which are not as rich as Germany but are economically stable, the PM said. He was apparently referring to Turkey, Greece, Macedonia and Serbia – a common route for migrants heading for ‘wealthy’ Europe.
“So, they are not running for their lives [in these countries]. They are merely economic migrants seeking a better life,” Orban concluded. He stressed though, that he can only speak for the Hungarians and they “don’t want” immigration. In his view, the government simply can’t go against the will of the people.
Going further, the prime minister noted that no refugee wants to go to Portugal, for example, adding that the majority of asylum seekers simply wanted to live in prosperous Germany.
“The reason why people are in your country is not because they are refugees, but because they want a German life,” he said, describing the issue “politically” as a European problem but, “sociologically,” as a German problem.
Orban specifically targeted Germany and Chancellor Angela Merkel’s ‘open-door’ policy towards asylum seekers. “I’ve never understood how chaos, anarchy and illegal border crossings are viewed as something good in a country like Germany, which we view as the best example of discipline and the rule of law,” he said.
The recent wave of refugees reaching Europe is merely an invasion, according to Orban. “If someone wants to come to your house, he knocks on your door and asks: ‘Can we come in, can we stay?’ They [asylum seekers] didn’t do that, they crossed the border illegally,” he stated.
In the interview, he said that multiculturalism was only “an illusion,” as Christian and Muslim societies “will never unite.” According to the Hungarian leader, the presence of a large number of Muslims results in the appearance of “parallel societies.” No such situation exists in Budapest due to a low number of migrants, he said.
Orban, a harsh critic of migration and mandatory migrant quotas, has repeatedly cast doubt on the validity of migrants’ humanitarian plight. He once called asylum seekers “a Trojan horse for terrorism.”
In September, Hungary claimed that fences on its borders with Croatia and Serbia had helped to cut the inflow of migrants by over 99 percent since 2015. The country’s border fence has been repeatedly criticized by other European states, as well as by EU politicians, but Budapest has resisted pressure to remove it.
Last month, Budapest, along with Poland and the Czech Republic, defended its “right” to reject EU-imposed refugee quotas amid pressure from the European Commission. Despite repeated EC warnings, the three countries continue to pursue a course of non-compliance, arguing that migrants pose a direct threat to the public’s security…..
RichardL says
Orban has said this before but the setting is very important: he was invited by the CSU, the Bavarian CDU. They want to appease their base so that they are quiet when they join the Merkill coalition. There are elections in the state of Bavaria and the CSU fears that it will get only 30%.
Ten years ago anything under 50% was unthinkable.
Orban was defamed as a Nazi and now he gets invited by a party that is in government. Things are changing…
Andy says
God Bless PM Viktor Orban!! We need more of this leadership in the west.!
Viktor Orban: Will there be a Christian Europe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Rpo53yW04
Viktor Orban: “As We Beat the Soviet Empire, We’ll Beat Soros’ Empire”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0pY0NHgC2E
Andy says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpomWuI3qog
StellaSaidSo says
He is right.
And everyone knows he is right.
christianblood says
Of course he is right and he always right! Just watch in the coming days and weeks as the pro-islamic, Western media demonizes for saying the obvious.
tim gallagher says
I wish it were true that “everyone knows he is right”, StellSaidSo. It should right. Unfortunately, there seem to be many people in all western nations who still haven’t woken up to Islam’s evil nature, unbelievable though that is to me. They are such slow learners. Leaders like Orban give me some hope. If only everyone would wake up to this vile enemy of our way of life, Islam, and slam the door shut on any Muslim migrants. Otherwise, we’ve had it. Why are the western media still “pro-Islamic”, christianblood? Even the dopiest clowns should have woken up to stinking, barbaric Islam by now. They should know Islam is 100% incompatible with our way of life. There’s just no excuse for those traitors or idiots, whichever of those terms applies to them.
eduardo odraude says
Not that hard, perhaps, to understand why many in the Western media are still “pro-Islamic” or just totally neutral toward it.
Imagine you worked as a public figure in the Western media. You make a great living, your famous to one degree or another, you do a job a lot of people would kill to get, you have tons of great perqs. Then suppose you discover that the core Islamic texts appear to contain a totalitarian expansionist doctrine, that Islam may well be a danger to the Western liberal values, that Pew polls show that many Muslims believe in Sharia law, that Sharia law is a totalitarian program for world domination, that the core Islamic region (Middle East/North Africa) has the worst human rights record of any region in the world, in short, that a great deal of evidence dovetails to support the argument that Islam is as grave a threat to freedom as ever communism or fascism were. Now what do you do? Do you decide to become a public lightning rod for charges of racism and hate? Do you risk losing much of your audience, your livelihood, your perqs, your job, your life? Or do you go along, figuring you won’t push the envelope, just stay within it? After all, it’s not your job to save the world from Islam. Besides, you are not even sure there is really such a big problem. Better to go along and get along, maybe down the road you’ll take a bolder stance. But why should you alone do so, when almost everyone else who knows what you do is self-censoring?
Alternatively, suppose you as a public media figure do not even bother to do much research on Islam. After all, virtually everyone says it is racism to think Islam is distinctively totalitarian. As far as you know, there is no need for special research. Suppose you are completely unaware of how many public figures are self-censoring about Islam, so you see no reason to buck the consensus most news people seem to accept. Most news media people are secular and non-religious, and look at religions somewhat as racists look at other races: “they all look alike.” In short, total ignorance. It just does not occur to you, as a typical media person, that there are important distinctions between religions, or that masses of religious people coming to the West could fail to become rational secular people in a rational secular society. No population living in a society with an open media could really believe in Islamic law in significant numbers, as far as you are concerned.
eduardo odraude says
you’re, not your
tim gallagher says
Good points you make, Eduardo. And I also get what you say about people with good, well paid jobs in the media, and probably with mortgages to pay and children to raise,etc, having a very hard time rocking the boat. However, there have been so many Muslim terrorist attacks and attempted attacks, along with huge Muslim crime rates, etc, that it should just be too bloody obvious by now that there’s a big problem with Islam and with Muslim migrants into all non-Muslim countries. And ,to me, some points of view are just too ridiculous for anyone to have. To me, for example, it is obvious that all religions aren’t the same. But I know some people say they are. I’ve spoken to some of them. They never have been the same. The Aztec human sacrifice religion wasn’t as peaceful the totally peaceful religions such as, say, Quakerism. Islam’s bloody history should make it clear how violent it is. So it’s ludicrous and just totally ignorant for people to say all religions are much the same. Also, when you say the media types might say “it’s not our job to save the world from islam”, I guess I think, if a media person does realise the threat Islam represents then they’d have to take up the fight against it. It is surely the task of everybody who has woken up to Islam to fight against it and to try to save the world. It’s something they’d have to do. They should have integrity. It’s a rotten choice for a person, who is aware, to remain silent, no matter what the cost of speaking up might be. They are good points you make. Good insights into what the media types would be thinking. And it would definitely be very hard to take up the fight as the experiences of Robert Spencer and others show. It would take plenty of courage. You’d have to have a thick skin to put up with the criticism you’d receive.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Go work at Foxsnooze, at least they let you say something true sometimes.
John Stefan Obeda says
God help us to warn the people of our nation when we see the enemy coming. If we see the enemy coming and we do not warn our people, then we are traitors and unfaithful and must be held accountable. The truth is more important than life on Earth. Jesus is our chief example of willingly dying for the sake of the truth. Dying for the truth we live and die in peace. God bless us citizens to be faithful in watching and faithful in warning of the coming of the enemy coming to destroy us. Mr. Orban is a faithful leader, a faithful watcher and a faithful warner. God bless him and Hungary!!
tim gallagher says
I agree with what you say about telling the truth, John Stefan Obeda. It’s the right thing to do. LeftisruiningCanada, I wrote my response to Eduardo and then, about twenty minutes later, I realised, hey, wait a minute, if you were a journalist who wanted to tell the truth about Islam, but worked for a liberal or leftie organisation, you would simply not have your point of view published or broadcast. So you couldn’t get the truth out there, even if you wanted to do so. Just as you say, you’d have to work for Fox or a reasonably conservative organisation, or you just wouldn’t be allowed to publish your point of view. You’d probably be sacked by a liberal or leftie organisation. Thank God there are some publishers who publish the views of Mark Steyn, Douglas Murray, Robert Spencer, et al. They can at least get their views out there. Most of the media are hopeless and seem totally ignorant about Islam.
StellaSaidSo says
Everyone who is paying attention knows Orban is right, even those who are locked in to a position of denial – ESPECIALLY those who are locked in to a position of denial. May and Macron and Merkel and every other corrupt globalist heading up a govt or corporation are fully aware of what they are inflicting on an increasingly well-informed public, which is why they are doubling down on the censorship and other tools of repression. Ultimately, they will fail. But they don’t care about the people they pretend to represent, and will go down fighting as dirty as they think necessary in order to implement their diabolical plan. As ordinary citizens, we don’t have a lot going for us (having been disarmed, in more ways than one), but there are an awful lot of us who are done with being nice, and who are resolved to protect and defend our homes, families, values and freedoms, against any hostile force. The ‘classe politique’ is on notice: we too are prepared to go down fighting. As the man said, ‘Sh*t is about to get real’.
tim gallagher says
Well said, StellaSaidSo. I hope we win against the hostile forces. And the “increasingly well-informed public” is the most important thing.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Yes. I alternate between seeing a deliberate plan to forcibly change the West through wildly unnatural levels of selective immigration, and viewing the actions of the western leaders as just being hopelessly out of their control, a product of bad ideas gone too far.
It’s possible for both to be true actually.
mortimer says
Muslims have a duty wherever they go to avoid contact with dirty kafirs as much as possible. This is an ESSENTIAL DOCTRINE called Al Walaa wal Baraa (allegiance and disavowal). W-B is tantamount to Islamic apartheid.
Orban is right to be concerned about Muslims forming a separate, but supremacist parallel society, because that is EXACTLY what Islam does.
gravenimage says
They can have contact with Kuffar as long as it is in order to harass, rob, rape, or murder them…
john spielman says
hmmm, harass rob rape and murder – or just call it what muslims call it – NORMAL life under dhimmi status
Phil Copson says
I must say, I do like the reference in para 7 to “jihadi hotpot” – I assume that’s a curry of some sort ?
WorkingClassPost says
I guess it’s halal too.
Bev says
Talk about a Trojan Horse, the EU is one of the biggest Trojan Horses ever launched on a continent. Since when does the EU tell sovereign countries who they must take in? Seems to me that the EU is trying to run an awful lot of countries. The EU is not an elected representative of the people and in my opinion the EU should have no say in anything a country does to protect itself from an invasion. Islamists will never assimilate into any society as they already have their own political system with laws and religion thrown in for totalitarian control 24/7/365. And if they are a good Islamist they will have already sworn an oath of allegiance to Islam so they can’t swear an oath to a country.
Save Europe says
Many friends of mine across Europe call the EU the ‘EUSSR.’ Very true.
Steve says
Wow………..I just love this man. He is saving his country from eternal strife, and economic ruin in the coming years.
Infidel says
+ 1 trillion
gravenimage says
Hungarian leader calls refugees “just Muslim invaders”
…………………….
Amazing telling of the truth.
Terry Gain says
“While peaceful Muslims are among the vast streams of refugees, the prevalent concern is not about the peaceful ones.”
Peaceful Muslims are in fact much more of a threat to western democracies than the open Jihadists. Muslims will choose Sharia over the laws and customs of the host country. If they don’t they will become infidels.
Peaceful Muslims cause us to let down our guard and continue with this Trojan Horse Experiment which if not soon ended will result in the demise of western democracies.
PATRICIA FRANCES KOENIG says
Terry Gain, I agree. I am totally opposed to any and all Muslim immigration to Western nations. That includes peaceful Muslims. Muslims will vote with the Muslim voting-block…and they could implement Sharia Law by a legal vote. Muslims have a different value system than the Western nations and they do not integrate…they do not want to integrate. Cultural diversity weakens the culture.
elee says
Very glad you wrote this because I was going to write about the same thing. Lawful Muslim activity is every bit as malign as the unlawful variety, probably more so. Dawa is the phone call that awakens the sleeper. And every Muslim is a sleeper. We don;t know how many generations it takes to extinguish all these millions of fuses. There haven’t been that many generations yet. We certainly know that two or three generations are not enough, and the descendants of immigrants can’t claim they are motivated by the Hell that Islam turned their home countries into. Their sons revert even after their parents sacrificed everything to make American lives for them.
Angus66 says
“the descendants of immigrants can’t claim they are motivated by the Hell that Islam turned their home countries into.”
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And yet they DO make that very claim with one small difference:
“the descendants of immigrants can’t claim they are motivated by the Hell that THE WEST turned their home countries into.”
elee says
Damn, all those western products mean they don’t get to watch their children die nearly so often, it’s cultural imperialism, the only way to fight this is to have every woman bear a dozen or so martyrs. They pray for this. Oh and kill a few vaccinators here and there so the evil kafirs can’t obliterate polio or any other disease Allah sees fit to inflict on them.
gravenimage says
Spot on, elee.
Darryl Kerney says
to add to the already good points made on this thread,
the sleepers are just that,
unaware of the fuses implanted in them by islamic indoctrination.
before i read elee’s comment i was also thinking it, there are plenty of potential triggers,
and at the right time when there are enough to have a good chance to succeed, the trigger
will come. when you have believers of a certain ideal, no matter what it is, mass uprisings will happen at some point, and if that ideal is anti-freedom, and favors a theocratic dictatorship, it shouldn’t be hard to foresee the outcome.
the “moderates” and the soft-liners (usual new term ?) STRIVE to convince us that islam is peaceful and the bad guys have it all wrong, perhaps they really believe it, but, how naive is it to not at least question it, because in light of innumerable historical examples, birds of a feather flock together,
and the ones who held fanciful illusions about islam will be hard pressed to not stay on its side if they believe any of the fallacies about the greatness of islam, their delusions will force to them side with those they claimed they opposed when the reality is, if they do not, their apostasy will put them in serious danger, at that point the choice will be to side with those they claimed had islam all wrong, or else.
their own misunderstanding will do them in, not that of “islamophobes”, who tried to warn about the danger.
they will be forced to fight against those they tried to assuage reassure, and convince, unless of course they switch sides, and are welcomed …..
it should be clear that by then, they will have done much to enable, even if unwittingly, the very thing they claimed we didn’t need to worry about…..
Savvy Kafir says
We’ve come to the point where seeing a political leader express basic, common-sense ideas regarding Islam & Muslims is shockingly refreshing to us counter-jihadis — and absolutely infuriating to the politically correct “journalists” of the Regressive Left and the willfully ignorant sheeple who still trust them.
Darryl Kerney says
no doubt, because we seem to be reaching the point where the poisoned fruit of the collectivist movement is again ripening, the decades of slow Rebranding of the same old “progressive” ideas that destroyed Europe and so many other countries in the last century has won over whole new generations of socialist altruist indoctrinated fools, fighting for exactly the opposite of what they think they are, justice and equality, the versions that have been so widely spread are “social”, and “economic” is the very same sense that the fascists, soviets, and all forms of communists have tried over and over, and always produced mostly suffering and ruin.
that is the light in which i view the phrase,
be careful what you wish for.
Terry Gain says
Muslims comprise only 5% of Canada’s population but they are already demanding to be privileged.
Firstly they proposed Motion 103 which is intended to result in a law making it illegal to criticize it’s bloody prophet or its “Holey’ (sic) books. Secondly they are now demanding special recognition of and “a day if action” regarding the Quebec Mosque shootings – even though we don’t yet know the motivation for the rampage – and even though most hate crimes in Canada are committed against Jews.
With respect to Muslim hate and violence we don’t have an annual Armenian Holocaust Memorial Day, a Nazi Holocaust Memorial Day (Hitler was supported by the Grand Mufti of Palestine) or a 9/11 Memorial Day.
A 9/11 Memorial Day would be most appropriate as it would remind us of the horrendous attack on our neighbour and ally in 2001 and the repulsion of the Muslim invaders at the Gates of Vienna in 1683″
Terry Gain says
I did not type it’s before “bloody prophet”. As an educated man I know ” it’s ” is a contraction for “it is”. Since I am a grammar Nazi I wanted to make this clear.
Autocorrect is not my friend.
gravenimage says
Good post, and thanks for the head’s up on your out-of-control Autocorrect.
elee says
Maybe we could have a Lepanto Day and have public recitations of G.K.Chesterton’s rousing poem about the event. It’s a good enough small epic poem to bear annual repetition.
Terry Gain says
+++
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Where did you get the stat of 5%?
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
The accurate number is around 3.5%. If we want to be taken seriously then we need to make sure our information is always accurate.
At the level of 5% to 6% self-sufficient ribats are up and running and domestic jihad attacks start to occur regularly. We’re not there yet but if Trudeau gets another term ….
Darryl Kerney says
and, why not a day of remembrance for the “Rape of Nanking” ?
surely that qualifies as much as any other examples one could think of ?
the japanese “imperialism” at that time shared quite a few similarities with islam,
and i find it interesting that liberal lefties never seem to bring up the atrocities of the shinto regime,
but always the “right wing” nazis, when they fail to see how much more their leftist ideas really were, not in all ways, but definitely in some. nazism was very much aligned with much leftist ideology, and the first fascist Mussolini begin as an ardent SOCIALIST.
it’s really interesting and ironic that the Left does not point to Japan’s early 20th century rampage through Asia as their example of evil “Imperialism”, “Colonialism”, and, especially “Nationalism”, which was a textbook example of those things taken to the extreme. what better example ?
can it be that they are just too ignorant of what the Shintos did ?
seems to me if they knew, that would be their preferred mudslinging term instead of “fascist”.
Darryl Kerney says
perhaps their self-assumed, and projected on others, guilt for Hiroshima and Nagasaki blinds them to the fact that it was the only way, when the entire population would have fought to the death, so if they even know about the crimes against humanity Japan had been committing for many years already, they give them a pass, because we nuked them, even though it surely saved many millions of lives by ending the war, we’re the bad guys, the big meanies.
have you ever heard a liberal lefty bemoan the carpet incendiary bombings of German cities ?
ok, the total anti-war types do, but the ones who call anyone who disagrees with them fascists, they don’t want to talk about it. but they’ll condemn you if you AGREE that it had to be done.
this is what can happen watching WW2 docs and reading JW,
sorry for the diversion folks…..
nicu says
God bless Orban !
Aum
Berengaria says
I agree, May God Bless PM Viktor Orban of Hungary, He Cares more about his Citizens than the MUSLIM INVADERS! He is a Man After My Own Heart, what a wonderful inspiration to other Western Leaders, who are trying to break free from the EU /UN MASS MUSLIM INVASION! Pray that the USA continues to minimize the Orders from the POWER-Mad UN!
Jaladhi says
Finally, a politician who has guts to tell the truth! Bravo! Muslim migrants are nothing but the invaders – unlike the invaders of the past who came wielding swords these migrants come begging for a better life but make no mistake they are the invaders. As soon as they settle down in the host country they will start their never ending demands for practicing their religion and then imposing their sharia on the host country. Have European, US, Canadian, Australian, etc politicians have learned nothing from the Islamic history and the behavior of Muslims in countries such as India where they have lived for about 1000 years and still they don’t believe in living peacefully with Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Christians! That is the nature of Muslims and Islam and the West has to quickly learn it before it is too late or maybe it is too late already!!
Terry Gain says
Western liberals are too stupid to read Islamic doctrine and history and come to an appreciation of the inevitable outcome of welcoming this hostile ideology, but at least they could look at what is happening in Europe and take heed.
The sooner Sweden falls to Islam the better. Our ignorant liberal elites might then visit reality.
Savvy Kafir says
Maybe Sweden will fall to Islam, causing the PC public to wake up to the threat, and then be rescued by Europeans & Americans newly determined to rid the West of this savage ideology.
I prefer that scenario. I don’t want to see ANY part of the Western world lost to Islam — no matter how suicidally stupid a country’s populace & “leaders” have been.
I want to see Islam pushed back to the desert, where it belongs. Then I want to see the Muslim world weakened to the point of irrelevance, via the development of renewable, locally-produced, eco-friendly energy sources, so the world can stop buying their damn oil.
elee says
Terry Gain I echo your thoughts entirely. We don’t understand when Muslims talk to each other b/c we miss allusions to easily-accessed texts.
BTW just buying a translation of the Kor’an is often not sufficient though, because the (usually) Muslim translators simply don’t translate accurately. Words are “shaded” or outright misrepresented to produce pablum that won’t offend any kafirs. I keep finding this, I read an allusion somewhere and say……wait a second, that’s not what my translations says…..gee I wonder why? Why did my translator (Muhammad Zafrulla Khan) translate 4:35 as authorizing men to “chatise” their wives when it actually says “beat”? In lieu of learning Arabic, be sure to read lots of commentaries, annotations and different translations.
Do this and a lot of their shilling becomes very transparent.
elee says
Apologies for the miscues, I really do know how to spell chastise and usually try to catch singular/plural miscues too. Oh and…..I don’t have this excuse, but do be aware that some who Comment here are not native speakers of English.
Michael Copeland says
The site http://www.corpus.quran.com has seven parallel translations, and a breakdown of the Arabic word by word.
Save Europe says
As a Limey Patriot, and as someone who UTTERLY sympathises with those in Sweden who did not agree to their country being infiltrated by Islamic invaders I wish that your hypothetical future never happens. On the other hand, I realise that Sweden is very much the ‘canary in the coal mine’, and, sadly, I’d prefer to see it capitulate so as to serve as a warning to others…..
Westman says
Orban is correct. However, some attention should be focused on why the immigrants are flooding into Europe.
Islam, without subsidy or unearned wealth, only creates a sick economy. Islam requires a subsidy, whether oil or dhimmi money, to have a wealthy society. It’s Golden Age relied on plundered wealth and dhimmis. It is no accident that, eventually, the Ottoman Empire became the “Sick Man of Europe”
Add Muslim wars without booty and and the sick head to Europe. Then add Merkel’s, “Come to Mamma”, appeal and Muslims in ALL the sick economies say, “let’s go!” And with them comes the very ideology that destroyed their economy.
And do the oil-wealthy Muslim nations invite them in? They know refugees go home when the war is over and economic migrants do not.
elee says
A good insightful and compassionate posting IMHO and all. Muslims are victims of their evil cult and worthy of our compassion. Just don’t confuse compassion with suicide. Sinking the lifeboat means we all drown.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Then why don’t they turn their back on Mohammadism? Don’t feel sorry for them or you’ll end up murdered in your sleep. If they’re too stupid to link their hellhole existence to their values system then let them stew in it.
StellaSaidSo says
I have reluctantly come to the same conclusion, Flavius. If we don’t put a stop to the demented, murderous cult of Islam, we will sink with it.
Save Europe says
So true. They cannot help what religion they are born unto, but they CAN choose to divorce themselves from the Death Cult, upon realising what it is.
Prabh108 says
No nations, no borders, just jihadists. Mujahidin are destroyers of Beauty.
God created natural borders for various peoples. Oceans, rivers, mountains.
I hate mohaMADans. Islam makes no sense from point of view of science.
Science validates Dharmic religions.
Ray Jarman says
Orban is totally correct and may the good Lord bless him and Hungary. If I were a Greek or Italian, I would probably be put in jail for asking why are Africans coming to my shores. There are no wars happening in Africa other than Libya and that is under control, so how can anyone with an ounce of intelligence call them refugees? Those people have terrible governments which they helped to create or to perpetuate. A true refugee does not make a demand that he be accepted nor does he try to impose the very same rules and religious doctrine on to the hosts that they claim to be fleeing. It is like here in the US when people come into America illegally and riot in the street setting ablaze the Red White & Blue while raising the flag of the nation that was so bad that they had to leave.
elee says
Good and compassionate post. See my thoughts in reply to Westman, two posts back.
LeftisruiningCanada says
+1
It tells you they aren’t coming for help, or because they have turned their back on where they came from, but because they think you owe them something. If you don’t give it, they’re going to take it from you.
Darryl Kerney says
the young “refugees” connected the dots easily,
go to kaffir land,
the kaffirs support you,
willingly, or unwillingly, makes no difference.
amazing that the ones providing for them with other people’s money
haven’t figured out the simple pattern, even when,
property crimes are exploding as they are wherever the highest migrant intake happens….
Save Europe says
Well, actually, there are wars going on in Africa – but NOTE !!! – only wars Boko Haram and Al-Shebab have caused…..oh, and Ansa Al Sharia!
Ray Jarman says
My wife and I lived in Nigeria for more than three years while was part of the staff at the Embassy in Abuja. My wife traveled to Borno State as the Ambassador’s Self Help Coordinator and some times she has tears for the people there but it is not a war. Boko Haram only operates in that part of Nigeria near Mali and Cameroon and the reason they still exist is that the government which instructs its civil administrators not to steal to much by President Obasanjo on the national television will not really engage these thugs. The same goes for Mali, Chad and Algeria where there is local gangs of thugs that I feel could be wiped off the face of their maps if only they had the backbone to do so. Sorry to digress but the Sub-Saharan Africans stealing into Europe are not refugees.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Interesting. Thanks for that. What do you think leads to the disinterest in tackling the gangs etc? Money involved, sympathy with the cause, don’t want trouble etc?
Ray Jarman says
When I lived in Nigeria, there was a saying amongst the politicians that if an honest person were to win or seriously challenge the ruling party, they would be killed. There have been incidents in the past to justify the concerns as many who opposed Bambagina, Abajo and Obasanjo ended up dead, similarly to some who opposed the Clintons in the past and not so distant past. I also found interesting about Nigerian politics is that the Christians are far numerous than the Muslims but for the way everything is rigged and in the Christian areas, the people are too busy trying to earn a living. Tribalism is also a factor in Boko Haram’s ability to escape annihilation and now the Fulani are causing havoc in many states. I still converse with Nigerian friends in Lagos and Abuja and they are concerned about terrorism but they tell me that Nigerians who steal into Europe are only after the dole.
Other countries such as Uganda, which has a great president in Yoweri Museveni, is also plagued by tribalism and Muslim thugs continue to intimidate and kill Christian in small villages. Kenya is another example where tribalism prevents the nation from prosperity. Of all South Saharan Africa, only Namibia, Ghana, Rwanda and Botswana have a recent history of free elections where peaceful transitions of governments take place. I hope that since Mugabe is gone that Zimbabwe will enter a new era of free elections. I still maintain that there is no justification for people in Africa to descend upon Europe except to enjoy the fruits for which the citizens of Europe have worked. They should be forced to remain in their countries and fix the problems and that should apply to Central American citizens as well.
StellaSaidSo says
Great posts, Ray Jarman, very informative – thanks!
CRUSADER says
Viktor Orbán had early counsel with Sebastian Gorka.
Both are relatively young middle aged gents.
Long life to them!!
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Speaking of truth-tellers, I wonder what Bannon will be doing with his time — preparing for a Presidential run perhaps.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/09/stephen-k-bannon-steps-breitbart-news-network/
LeftisruiningCanada says
““The reason why people are in your country is not because they are refugees, but because they want a German life,””
Without becoming German, unfortunately.
elee says
Well of course, let the kafirs do the thousands of years of working and saving and forming capital, the Book says just pillage it. And when they run out of kafirs to pillage I guess they can cannabalize their own with takfir for apostates.
Catch a bunch of rats. Put them in a barrel with no food and see what happens. Hint: you might start with a dozen rats, but you won’t find a dozen dead rats when you come back. Muslim economics 101.
LeftisruiningCanada says
twelves rats enter, one rat leave?
elee says
Exactly.
StellaSaidSo says
They don’t want a ‘German life’, they want a German welfare payment for life.
JawsV says
That’s exactly what they are, Hungarian PM.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Look at this idiot Hungarian pm imitating savage mad devil Trump. Who created the problem in the First place ? prior to invasion and destruction of Iraq and Libya, and crisis instigated by the West in Syria, there has been no such mass migration to the West from muslim countries.
similar problem happened to black Africans as result of that cruel colonisation and deprivations of their countries by filthy Christian West that led them to look for greener postures in the West ,And they are still flooding the West through human traficking accross the sea. many of their ladies, mostly mithraist christians, engage in prostitution some even having sex with the dogs and horses of the White mithraist chrstians to earn a living.
Hi, mithraist Christian Westerners you are wicked to the core, the habit you learn from your god the Satan (holy spirit) the father of all evils.
JawsV says
You’re insane Muslim and should be confined to a mental institution. Your insane “religion” should be confined too.
gravenimage says
The appalling Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Look at this idiot Hungarian pm imitating savage mad devil Trump. Who created the problem in the First place ? prior to invasion and destruction of Iraq and Libya, and crisis instigated by the West in Syria, there has been no such mass migration to the West from muslim countries.
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Where to start? Firstly, most of Ibrahim itace muhammed’s coreligionists flooding into Europe are not coming from any war zone. Moreover, these are not “refugees”–they are almost all military-age males, which looks more like an invading army than anything else, because this is what they are.
And then he refers to the “destruction” of Libya, but Libya has only become more Islamic. Is Ibrahim itace muhammed admitting that Islam leads to destruction? It sounds like it…
Further, of course, he does not say why Muslims would flood into the West if it was Westerners who destroyed their native lands.
The reason Muslims are flooding into the West now is because we are–foolishly–allowing them to.
Never mind that Hungary is not really the West, in any case. Why should they have to suffer? Why, because they are “filthy Infidels”, of course.
More:
similar problem happened to black Africans as result of that cruel colonisation and deprivations of their countries by filthy Christian West that led them to look for greener postures in the West ,And they are still flooding the West through human traficking accross the sea. many of their ladies, mostly mithraist christians, engage in prostitution some even having sex with the dogs and horses of the White mithraist chrstians to earn a living.
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Again, Ibrahim itace muhammed does not explain why immigrants would flood into a place that supposedly destroyed their countries.
Did those invaded by the Fascists flee en mass to Nazi Germany? Of course not.
And Ibrahim itace muhammed has mad the bizarre claim before that there is a sex trade in forced sex with dogs and horses. He has even claimed on multiple occasions that an African woman was deported from France for refusing to have sex with horses. Needless to say, he has not offered any proof for such a grotesque assertion.
More:
Hi, mithraist Christian Westerners you are wicked to the core, the habit you learn from your god the Satan (holy spirit) the father of all evils.
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Given that they only example of Christian wickedness is something that does not exist, perhaps they are not so wicked after all?
Terry Gain says
Ibrahim Itace MuhamMAD
Thank you for demonstrating once again how crazy you are.
Save Europe says
The Koranderthal troll is utterly insane.
LeftisruiningCanada says
This is a classic post.
I think Ibrahim is under some kind of stress. Maybe he’s having doubts about islam.
Or maybe he’s been listening to the voice of the real satan, which is all he gets to hear from his real or online imams.
Wherever it comes from, satan is all i can hear in Ibrahims post: lies by omission, outright lies, truth twisting, hatred, delusions of persecution, self justifications for harming others.
He sounds crazy because all craziness comes from evil.
Repent Ibrahim of your wicked ways, turn to the real Jesus, He can save you from the pit.
Save Europe says
He is under stress because he hasn’t had ‘relations’ with a goat in the last 24 hours, or so.
Carol says
I get the feeling he’s watching too much of a certain kind of porn. To each his own.
gravenimage says
It certainly drives him crazy that we are not submitting to Islam.
No sex slaves for you!
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Look at this idiot Hungarian pm imitating savage mad devil Trump. Who created the problem in the First place ? prior to invasion and destruction of Iraq and Libya, and crisis instigated by the West in Syria, there has been no such mass migration to the West from muslim countries.”
Sure there has Ibrahim. Pakistanis to the UK, Algerians to France, Turks to Germany and so on. Africans have always been sneaking themselves into southern europe. There has been an increase since 2015 or so, but its not a new phenomenon.
But your point displays an assumption. You think that muslims have a right to enter Europe based on western military interventions in their countries. Why? It’s certainly not something muslims nations abide by, is it.
“similar problem happened to black Africans as result of that cruel colonisation and deprivations of their countries by filthy Christian West that led them to look for greener postures in the West”
Pure nonsense and victim claims. If western presence in African nations took something, it surely gave much too. No, the reason Africans leave their homes is because they, as a whole, struggle to create stable, useful economies and rule of law. prove that wrong.
Most of the ones heading to Europe are muslims too, who, like you, feel wronged by the whole world, can accept no responsibility for anything wrong in their lives or countries, and, in general, want to eat the fruit of western civilization without having tended the garden. Many will manage to do that for a while until the fruit is gone. Then, when the ground needs turning and the heavy work needs doing, you’ll all end up in the same pathetic state you started in at home.
“And they are still flooding the West through human traficking accross the sea. many of their ladies, mostly mithraist christians, engage in prostitution some even having sex with the dogs and horses of the White mithraist chrstians to earn a living.”
No idea what you are raving about Ibrahim. I cannot understand you. I…DON’T …. UN…DER….STAND.
“Hi, mithraist Christian Westerners you are wicked to the core, the habit you learn from your god the Satan (holy spirit) the father of all evils.”
Keep it up Ibrahim. You’ve taken your shot at supporting this silly ‘mithra’ nonsense, and failed miserably. You won’t find much about having sex with children, or taking sex slaves, or any such wickedness, in the New Testament and teachings of Jesus….
But we both know where to look for ‘light and guidance’ on how these things should be done, don’t we…..Yes, the life and times of one mohammad, idol and pervert Extraordinaire, wow how good it must feel to have such a top class Man for your example.
Infidel says
Why are U constantly making a fool of Urself Ibrahim…
Save Europe says
Last time I checked Hungary have done NOTHING !!!!! I await your response to that, idiot!
Simba says
You are responsible for protecting your loved ones from followers of the ideology that explicitly commands the slaughter of non-Muslims.
If you are a Muslim, then you have made a conscious decision to align with Islam, and surely you have read the Quran and what it requires of you concerning me and my family. I would be extremely foolish to neglect the safety of my family while in the presence of any Muslim. Extreme caution is required in the presence of anyone who agrees with the Quran and the verses found therein. They hide their faces so they can’t be identified.
The Quran, repeatedly invokes racism, slavery, violence, and oppression as the common beleifs of its faith. By exposing what the Quran demands of its followers is not the cause of any Muslim’s radical behavior. A devout Muslim by beheading or raping an infidel today is just like their prophet was over 1,400 years ago. Their religion demands this of them. Exposing what the Curan demands of its followers is not Islamaphobic, its merely exposing the TRUTH.
In fact, none of the more than 270 million non-Muslims slaughtered by Muslims since Islam’s founding are responsible for the bloodshed commanded by the Quran. Still, liberals continue to victim-blame instead of pointing the finger at the murderous jihadists and their barbaric texts.
There is no such thing as a radicalized Muslim. Islam by nature is Radical, has been, is now and always will be. Anyone who follows or submits to this death cult is a RADICAL. This has been, is now and will always be the religion of the Devil. When a Muslim dies they go to HELL and will abide in his Satanic Majesty’s kingdom for all eternity. Their god encourages, approves of and demands his followers rape, torture and behead, defenseless men, women and children for his pleasure. Anyone (all inclusive, you) who does not submit to this DEATH CULT is subject to immediate execution by the most heinous means these devils can devise.
If you have any doubts concerning what Muslims are capable of doing to you, your spouse and children open the below link.
CAUTION, MUSLIMS SERVING THEIR god
http://barenakedislam.com/2017 /11/30/dear-president-trump-ho w-about-retweeting-these-incon trovertible-photos-of-muslim-e vil-that-the-media-cant-call-f ake-news/
Salome says
Orban is in a good position. Fidesz, the party he leads, is in coalition with the CDU-equivalent, and to the right of them is Jobbik, which is the ‘far-right’ party. So Orban is a proper conservative liberal and can’t be marked as ‘far right’ without being able to point to Jobbik. He’s doing exactly what properly liberal (loving freedom) and conservative (valuing the good things we’ve got) politicians should be doing. There’s nothing far right about him that I’ve seen.
Ray Jarman says
I am sorry but socialism does not mean freedom loving. The leading socialists from history is Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Lenin and the socialist leaders of the former Soviet cordon sanitaire countries where millions were slaughtered in an attempt to subjugate the masses. Even the Nazis were closer to Stalin than any conservative leader such as Winston Churchill, Jan Mazurek and Mustafa Kemal. Conservatives are the truly peace loving and with capitalism have created nations such as the United States and Great Britain.
LeftisruiningCanada says
It may be that Salome’s use of the term ‘liberal’ lead to a slight confusion.
” what properly liberal (loving freedom) and conservative (valuing the good things we’ve got) politicians should be doing”
I think she may have been referring to classical liberalism, but the term ‘liberal’ has been hijacked by socialists and tends to be read as being their word now.
Ray Jarman says
LeftisruiningCanada, I don’t disagree with your statement about the change of connotation of the word liberal. The liberalism of John Stewart Mills and Rousseau no longer applies to the word, liberalism in today’s world. Since this is 2018 and not the 18th or the 19th century, we must be knowledgeable of the connotation of words today and I don’t say this with a light heart. We live in a world where truths and word denotations are turned upside down and the proper use of English and as my International Relation’s professor once stated, “When properly written and well spoken, English is a beautiful language.”
Lydia Church says
It’s a Trojan Horse.
Don’t lower the moat bridge.
polemeros says
“Many Western societies have been historically built on immigrants seeking better lives…”
BS
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
No matter your rubbish balabala, the truth still stands that you mithraist filthy Christian Westerners are wicked to the core, the habit you learn from your evil god the Satan you Call holy Who teaches you to soak the bloods of weak ones as you did to black Africans by savage colonisation and you are still doing it through your multinationales companies dictating to the host countries what they must do to enrich them and destroy their local industries. mithraist christian Westerners cover your faces in shame for your inhuman treatments of other nations. Instead of paying reparation to black Africans, you followed up with neocolonisation of unfair and exploitative economic relations to futher make them poorer. They must go to your lands accross sea for them not die from hunger. You must feed them from the income you ill-gotten from their resources. You imposed filthy on them and yet you still looking at them with disdain.Savage mad devil Trump even promised in his campaign speeches that he was thinking of recolonising black Africans and revive that cruel transatlantic slave trade.
elee says
Go Google “Zanj Rebellion” and see what you learn. Or not…..
LeftisruiningCanada says
“mithraist filthy Christian”
You obviously value truth about as much as mohammad valued truces with non muslims….or their lives, for that matter.
Not Much.
Oh yes, cry cry cry me a river. Everything is the white man’s fault isn’t it. Glad you got your racism on the table, so we can see what’s really driving your ‘islamic faith’.
StellaSaidSo says
Get a grip, lad, before you rupture something.
And stop banging on about the Atlantic Slave Trade as if it had nothing to do with Muslims. Read a history book, FFS. Or google the heading ‘Muslim slave trade’ or variant. You will find that Muslims were trading slaves long before Europeans got involved, and continue to do so today. And more Europeans were taken as slaves by Muslims than Europeans ever took from Africa during the relatively short period that they were engaged in the slave business. You demand ‘reparations’ from Europeans for the Atlantic slave trade. Let’s hear you demand the same from the Arabs, whose ‘debt’ is far greater, and still growing.
elee says
Yes, the first European slave traders on the Atlantic were Portugese who on arriving on the west coast of Africa found that…….the Muslims had got there before them, overland, and enslaved far and wide on their way…….they had enclaves along the Atlantic with slave markets but…..the Muslims hadn’t dragged their ships across the continent with them, the Portugese filled this niche by transporting slaves from enclave to enclave…..al that New World stuff was a century or two later……
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
stellasaidso ,you are still practicing your savage enslavement black Africans by dictating ruinous to their economies and toppling their good leaders Who want fix their economies and install puppet thieves Who steal their ressources and stash them in your economies. wicked mithraist pagans !!
Andy says
We know you by your actions and from what we have seen in the world from moslems for the most part is death, destruction and violence.
Choose Life, Choose Love. We Love our neighbors as thyself. Not blow them up and chop off heads like moslems do.
Liberal Admits: Poland and Hungary Greatest Threat to EU Globalists!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV5oGkU-1to
LeftisruiningCanada says
Ibrahim’s top debating tips:
#1 Never cite anything to backup what you’re saying, since assertions repeated count as facts. The dirty pigs and apes have no right to question a muslim anyway.
#2 Ignore what other people say. They’re only filthy beasts; it doesn’t matter what they say, because you as a muslim can never be wrong. And it’s easier to make your point if you don’t get distracted by counter arguments that refute you.
#3 If something so obviously destroys your main point that you can’t ignore it, don’t acknowledge this, but simply shift your argument to another related issue and keep right on going. Remember, you aren’t here to defend your opinion against filthy kafirs. They must believe you, or die.
StellaSaidSo says
‘Good African leaders who want to fix their economies’? You mean, like Mugabe? Gaddafi? Idi Amin? Wake up, fool. The main reason for Africa’s failures is Africans.
StellaSaidSo says
LOL, LeftisruiningCanada, how right you are!
Infidel says
Mchod Ibrahim Tace Bhosadi ke katue… Go and commit suicide in the desert and take a few of Ur mad evil bros along with U… that is what U are good for..
Save Europe says
How can YOU as a Muslim prattle on about the supposed ill treatment of Africans by the West, when the Muslim slave trade was the WORST towards Africans?!?!!!!!! OR do you only now care because so many Africans have, since, been forced to convert!!!!!
gravenimage says
Not only were Muslims the driving force behind the slave trade in Africa–Islamic slavery both preceded and far outlasted slavery in the West–but Ibrahim itace muhammed *himself* has affirmed that Muslims can enslave people to use as slaves and sex slaves.
He just wants a lot of Jizya from instilling unearned guilt in Infidels.
Darryl Kerney says
certainly many are coached, i read that here in Canada last summer when we had many “refugees”, from the Land of the Free, the USA absurdly enough. the Rebel Media asked questions at the border, and discovered there are networks working to coach and transport “refugees” to the “irregular” crossings, that were in many cases in the USA illegally, or not, some just think they have to flee the Trump “regime” and were settled and employed, and they walk across our border seeking “asylum”. the fools who can’t see the fraud are the ones in need of asylum, but of a different type, which type should be clear…..
Raja says
The vile Islam would not allow its faithful to come down to earth (and be a normal human). Constant war mongering and supremacist brainwashing, sans any morals in a Muslim world makes a day / drives a day for a Muslim. This makes them do what they do with impunity. Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi, Iran are great examples. The same Muslims ae hell bent on making no go zones in Europe etc as they cannot live without the savagery of their brethren in hell holes of Muslim nations..
Orban will have many enemies as the adage goes: He who loves the truth has many enemies. May God strengthen him.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Yep, Mr Orban won’t be popular in certain circles.
Carol says
What’s to correct? Free stuff (or at worst all the leadership jobs) will help stoke and stroke their divinely cherished narcissism.
Save Europe says
I’m still surprised, quite frankly. In NO way are they fulfilling their Hijra obligations.
Infidel says
I FORESEE BLOODY RIOTS IN THE EU ON A SCALE THAT WILL EVEN MAKE THE ROHYINGHYA EXPULSION LOOK VERY LAME!!!
Larry says
The “peaceful” muslims are the sea in which the jihadi fish swim to hide, feed, and get financed.
StellaSaidSo says
Exactly.
Just because it is not their hand on the knife at the throat of the ‘kuffar’ does not mean they aren’t delighted by the outcome.
Christian Reactionary says
No, the European homelands weren’t built on immigrants. And it does not matter if they are peaceful. Mass immigration is population replacement, it’s invasion. You don’t have to hate Muslims to understand this. They could be Chinese, they could be Dutch, it does not matter: mass immigration = war, invasion.
StellaSaidSo says
Spot on.
Anne Smith says
A good man, Orban. More power to his elbow. I hope he is not assassinated.
bonnie louise loranger says
Orban is right of course and I hope more countries will follow him.
Politicianophobia community, free of hate says
It is 2:53 and the little kindergarteners are still in Qur’an school, I bra him has nobody to thigh, please cut him some slack.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Good anti-troll trolling right there 😀
Sarah says
I was supposed to go to Europe this year, for my annual overseas jaunt. I ditched that idea in favour for the America’s and a bit of Asia, instead.
But I think I’m going to give Poland and Hungary a shot, along with Russia next year. I’d like to send my tourist dollars towards the Poles and Hungarians. And I always wanted to see St Petersburg and while I’m on the same continent and all.
Orban is proving himself to be a Politician who works for his people and their wishes and safety. That to me, is a sign of a true Statesman who is very deserving of the authority, respect, privileges and wealth that the role entails.
I’d like to buy the guy a beer.
Ray Jarman says
If you like jazz and great food, you will find it in Budapest delightful. One can eat in a restaurant and view the Royal Palace across the beautiful bridge connecting the two parts of the city. Prague is also worth the visit as it has some of the most beautiful buildings on the Danube River. There several Michelin rated restaurants and the prices are less than Brussels, Paris or Lyon.
Politicianophobia says
I was thinking of going back to England and Ireland, instead I have been looking around Naples, Florida for a home. Trudeau is proving to be too much to tolerate, maybe I should sue for pain and suffering–10 million would be suffice.
Carol says
George Soros apparently is funding university courses to teach them how to fill out forms. The article below is lengthy but chock-full of references to information on this “philanthropist” and his ideas:
ON MIGRATION: OPEN LETTER TO GEORGE SOROS
http://www.newenglishreview.org/A_Aspasia/On_Migration:_An_Open_Letter_to_George_Soros/