A brittle, insecure, paranoid culture, that can only survive through force and violence, and the threats of violence. And instead of realizing that, in the West the threat of violence is enough to get nearly everyone to fall into line, heedless of the fact that to give in to violent intimidation only encourages more violent intimidation.
“Pine trees outside a mosque in Sharia-law province of Aceh are cut down ‘because they resembled Christmas trees,'” by Gareth Davies, Mailonline, January 19, 2018:
Officials at a mosque have reportedly cut down 10 pine trees because they were said to resemble Christmas trees.
The religious temple where the firs were banished is in the Indonesian province of Aceh, where citizens are ruled by ultra-strict Islamic Sharia law.
Chairman of the Baitul Makmur Meulaboh Mosque named only as Anwar said as well as looking like a Christmas tree, the trees had become unkempt and obscured the view of the building from the road.
A spokesman for the West Aceh Regency Council slammed the decision, saying the reasons given made ‘no sense’.
He told Cakradunia: ‘In that case why don’t we hack down all the pine trees in West Aceh?
‘How much has been budgeted all this time to maintain those trees only for them to be thrown away just like that?’
With the trees now felled, there is no shade from the 30C sun for street vendors or parked cars.
As well as backlash from the local council, the mosque has been pilloried by the city’s Environment Agency, who dismissed claims the trees were not maintained.
Head of the Meulaboh Environment Agency, Adi Yunanda, said: ‘All this time, the trees in Meulaboh have been maintained.
The agency budgeted nearly £400 a year to trim the ten trees and more than £800 in fertiliser.
Adi added that the mosque caretakers unilaterally came up with the decision to cut down the trees — which were public property — but did not mention any possible sanctions for them….
Of course not. That would be “Islamophobic.” Seriously, he can’t give them any sanctions because then he will be dealing with rioting Muslims.
Indiana Tom says
Officials at a mosque have reportedly cut down 10 pine trees because they were said to resemble Christmas trees. As well as backlash from the local council, the mosque has been pilloried by the city’s Environment Agency, who dismissed claims the trees were not maintained.
Seems as one liberal constituency is incompatible with another liberal constituency. This is the contradiction of the Left. The Liberals have an interesting future.
Johnny Cuyana says
Hardly “Kristallnacht”; however, the “broken windows and book burnings” continue.
And … what, pray tell, may be the next target? No worries: Anwar, Chairman of the Baitul Makmur Meulaboh Mosque, and his death cult minions, which appear to be doing, gladly, the work of the Ministry of Propaganda and Political Correctness, have now been incentivized and emboldened to do even more.
gravenimage says
Don’t think they will stop at pine trees, Johnny.
Kay says
They won’t. Everything good is a reflection of our Creator.
Destroying beauty is a Mohammeden specialty.
Stacy Girl says
Cutting things off- their mad addiction.
Save Europe says
Well, they purport to hold Jesus as a Prophet, and yet striipped him of his divinity in the Koran, and loathe him at every cost….
Jason Klingor says
Jaya Gopal “The misery of Islam”
https://bpeinfo.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/the-misery-of-islam-16-pages.pdf
Jaya Gopal “The misery of Islam” https://bpeinfo.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/the-misery-of-islam-16-pages.pdf
gravenimage says
Islam is miserable, all right.
Not mohammed today, or tomorrow either. says
Just demonstrates and proves islamic ignorance. So called ‘Christmas’ trees are a Germanic invention and has actually nothing whatsoever even remotely to do with Christmas. I should know this as I am Jewish 🙂
gravenimage says
Muslims don’t really care if Christmas trees have anything to do with the religious Christmas–although they will violently suppress that, as well. They just kinow that Christmas trees are a joyful Infidel custom, and that is enough for them to hate it.
Save Europe says
+1
Dean says
Will they be killing rabbits’ and crushing chicken eggs’ next because they symbolize Easter?
gravenimage says
Muslims love to blow up Churches at Easter.
Michael Skok says
It’s actually a Chinese invention, isn’t it? There’s lots and lots of Christmas trees in China.
WPM says
These lunatics are attacking trees ,like trees are creatures that choose their shape and color. Will they attack picket fences because they form a bunch of crosses how about the small letter t ? Will they band the letter J because of Jesus ? Will they attack flashing lights because they resemble Christmas lights {don,t walk signs ect }? Will they ban anything that resembles a star because of the star of David ? Will they ban polio shots, TB testing, much medicine because it was invented by Jews and Westerns thinking people. It is hard to advance as a people when the whole world around you offends you in some matter or form you imagine. Spending your days protesting the logical of the nature of the world and how it works while banging your head on the ground 5 times a day believing your the best of people with no room to improve yourself! Praying for the death and every lasting hell for unbelieving people who work at trying to improve their and your world!
t says
Well said, WPM!
gravenimage says
WPM wrote:
Will they ban polio shots, TB testing, much medicine because it was invented by Jews and Westerns thinking people.
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WPM, Muslims murder polio workers in many part of Dar-al-Islam for that very reason.
“Islamic law and hatred of West fuel polio resurgence in Muslim countries”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/11/islamic-law-and-hatred-of-west-fuel-polio-resurgence-in-muslim-countries
“Taliban: Polio vaccinations cause infertility and are part of a U.S.-sponsored anti-Muslim plot”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/03/taliban-polio-vaccinations-cause-infertility-and-are-part-of-a-us-sponsored-anti-muslim-plot
WPM says
Thank you it shows how we Western World ,the non-Moslem Asian, non Moslem Africa can not help these raving mad cult people till they leave Islam behind. They must leave Islam to think clearly they can become Buddhist, Hindus ,Christians , Jews , or Atheist ,or Wiccas ,but there is no room for true Islamics in running a sane world. Just like in the 1940s there was no room in this world for true Nazis running a sane world .
gravenimage says
Very true.
Vandy Washington says
They banned Muslim women growing cucumbers because they resembled ??? You guessed it ! Phalluses !
Prabh108 says
Cucumber origin is India. Moslem hate India.
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mortimer says
A BRILLIANT COMMENT BY ROBERT SPENCER TO BE MEMORIZED AND QUOTED OFTEN:
“A brittle, insecure, paranoid culture, that can only survive through force and violence, and the threats of violence.”
Indeed, Islam is not only paranoid, but CULTIVATES THAT PARANOIA constantly!
“CULTIVATED PARANOIA” stimulates a VICTIM MENTALITY in the minds of Muslims and their US-VERSUS-THEM mindset that sees a GRAND CONSPIRACY AGAINST ISLAM EVERYWHERE.
In reality, there is mostly only INDIFFERENCE and DISGUST with Islam on the part of MOST WESTERN PEOPLE.
The final goal of this “cultivated paranoia” is a POLARIZATION that separates Muslims from the ‘other’, making Muslims hate the ‘other’.
Polarization creates a MISSION-MENTALITY which leads those so brainwashed to become ‘radicalized’, which means that the groomed future jihadis begin to feel a PARANOID urgency to defend Muslims with violence, deceit, hoaxes, lies and sabotage aimed at the West.
Islamic paranoia is pure PSYCHODRAMA.
t says
True and accurate, mortimer!
gravenimage says
Spot on, Mortimer.
Sam says
If these guys just cut down only trees and let the hindu/buddhist people live in peace, it is a good trade!
gravenimage says
If only, Sam.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Cutting our own trees down is Jihad against the kuffar, for whom we will blame and attack for making us cut down our trees”
gravenimage says
Grimly hilarious.
gravenimage says
Indonesia: Mosque cuts down pine trees because they resembled Christmas trees
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Islam hates everything good and beautiful.
utis says
Once again, they follow their prophet. Check out search terms: Bani or Banu Nadir and date-palms and burning and hadith. Islam is two-faced about destroying plants, trees or livestock (I got a first search of hadith and quran quotes about sparing the non-humans “as Allah wills.”
The refined search got me quotes about Banu Nadir and Mohammed’s order to destroy their date-palms. The trees has gotten in the invaders’ way, and anyhow the Banu Nadir were Jews.
In my mind, destroying palm trees in a desert, especially fruit-bearing trees, would be what the Catholics called “a sin that cries to heaven for vengeance.” But you see how the Acheh idiots “think.” By the way, boys, a Christmas tree without bling is a tree. Period.
roberta says
Kill all things beautiful. The best of people.
Halal Bacon says
If they cut down those trees, then how will those trees fulfill the prophecy of giving up the Jews? /sarc off
Hudson Steele says
Yeah, it didn’t say ‘stumps’.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Doesn’t say they are living trees…..i don’t think.
Perhaps the muslim end days will only come when there are only rocks and felled trees across the whole wide world, with Jews hiding behind them.
Not only will that be another conflict between islam and their (current) leftist supporters, but judging from the size of Canada and Russia alone, it is going to take a very long time to fell all those trees.
Tzioni says
Halal Bacon what a great response!
May the CQ2 from the mosque – which the trees had changed into oxygen – build up in and around the mosque. Karma is not pretty.
Hudson Steele says
Look what a mess! They’re trying to global-warm us to death!
A_Minor_7 says
I’m an Indonesian, sub minority. I mean, I’m a minority even among the minorities (Christian, Hindu, Buddhist).
It’s pathetic to live around these what so called ‘majority’ people.
The radicals keep doing mess, and the moderates just sittin’ there doing nothing, the best they can do is lip service.
The minorities are often criticizing them for their age-backwardly actions through the country , and strangely, the moderates will become fierce to defend things.
It’s strange because rather than stopping their radical brothers and sisters with real deal, they are more eager to deal with minority people like bunch of fierce attorneys in court.
gravenimage says
It’s because these are not “radicals”, and most of the “moderates” agree their violence.
Sorry to hear that you are facing oppression in Indonesia, A_Minor_7. Sadly, though, I cannot say I am surprised.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Only from the outside.
Inside, it resembles the interior of a psycho’s mind.
PRCS says
It’s important for “news” outlets to make clear that areas of the world like Banda Aceh are ruled by Islamic Sharia law, lest people erroneously conclude the issue there is Presbyterian Sharia law.
gravenimage says
Grimly amusing.
Baucent says
“Adi added that the mosque caretakers unilaterally came up with the decision to cut down the trees — which were public property — but did not mention any possible sanctions for them….”
Surely something Koranic might be suitable, caning for example?
gravenimage says
Don’t hold your breath…
Charles T Lawson says
NO TREES,? Wait for the rains wait for the floods . OOPS sorry they already get floods ,Must be because there are NO TREES,?
Tzioni says
Maybe the Muslims are missing their desert environment? Everywhere they go, they make into a spiritual and physical desert.
Theopholus says
Finally an answer to a question. Is that why there are no more Cedars of Lebanon? Just asking.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
If thé report is genuine, the administrators are too myopic .it true that mithraist christianity is a blasphemy insulting God. However, the sharia does not prohibit christians from diaplaying their pagan symbols provided they are not mocking muslims with it, which is an act of provocation.
Muslims need not remove symbols of mithraist pagan Christianity, It is dying Day after Day. How can you imagine a human with good rational calculation to believe that God the most High became man and was kiłled for Him to save those who believe that He was kiłled ? It is idiocy to the core
Billy Chickens says
To Ibrahim itace muhammad
Oh? So sharia demands that pine trees resembling Christmas trees (RESEMBLING Christmas trees, mind you, not ACTUAL Christmas trees) be hacked down because they “obscured the view of the mosque from the road”?
Makes sense to me. Islam is the vicious religion of death therefore MUST kill any living thing remotely useful, good, beautiful or truthful – whether it’s the actual living thing, or merely a reminder of it – so that only anything Islamic can be put its place; in this case, the view of a mosque.
This is maybe the reason the most beautiful pure Blessed Virgin Mary many times is depicted as squashing the crescent moon under her feet. It reminds her of the symbol of Islam which is the the religion of satan, her Son’s adversary. Go Blessed Mother! Imagine a WOMAN doing that!
In case you are not able to comprehend the symbolism here, it means that the Blessed Mother conquers evil – from God’s first prophesy in the BIBLE, the HOLY BOOK Of CHRISTIANS. Genesis 3:15 just in case you need to memorize the verse.
LeftisruiningCanada says
If Ibrahim doesn’t like Christ’s first coming, he really isn’t going to like His second coming.
Ibrahim is so bad at dawa that he actually manages to make islam look worse.
Champ says
“If Ibrahim doesn’t like Christ’s first coming, he really isn’t going to like His second coming.”
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You can say that again, Left!
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
If thé report is genuine, the administrators are too myopic .it true that mithraist christianity is a blasphemy insulting God. However, the sharia does not prohibit christians from diaplaying their pagan symbols provided they are not mocking muslims with it, which is an act of provocation.
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Well, let’s see–this is what the Pact of Umar–that ur document of dhimmitude–says:
“We shall not manifest our religion publicly…”
“We shall not display our crosses or our books in the roads or markets of the Muslims. We shall use only clappers in our churches very softly. We shall not raise our voices when following our dead. We shall not show lights on any of the roads of the Muslims or in their markets. We shall not bury our dead near the Muslims…”
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/source/pact-umar.asp
Notice how vague this is. Who decides what is a public manifestation of Christianity? Who decides which are the roads of the Muslims, since these Christians are living under Muslim rule? Aren’t all roads the “roads of the Muslims”? And how near, exaclty, is “near”?
And it is the same with Ibrahim itace muhammed. Who decides if Christians are “mocking” Muslims, since any worship of God is deemed a mockery?
And note the sinister use of the term “provocation”. What do Muslims do when they feel “provoked” by dhimmis? Why, they riot, attack, and murder them.
There is a reason why this is all imprecise–Muslims may, whenever they are annoyed or just bored, decide to attack and brutalize the defenseless dhimmis.
Non-Muslims in Muslim lands live with this constant insecurity and fear.
More:
Muslims need not remove symbols of mithraist pagan Christianity, It is dying Day after Day. How can you imagine a human with good rational calculation to believe that God the most High became man and was kiłled for Him to save those who believe that He was kiłled ? It is idiocy to the core
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What Ibrahim itace muhammed is saying here is that he cannot conceive of a God who loves his creation, but only “Allah”, who hates and sadistically brutalizes mankind.
I’m sensing a pattern here…
LeftisruiningCanada says
Nice work.
MFritz says
More lies from a fake Nigerian account. Like most criminal spam these days. Don’t feed the troll!
Prabh108 says
This is the very definition of “nasty”.
CRUSADER says
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Westminster Institute —
How to Support Democracy in a Pluralistic, Highly Religious Society:
The Case of Indonesia
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Lieutenant General Agus Widjojo (Army; Ret.) is currently the Governor of the Indonesian National Resilience Institute – a ministerial-level agency directly under the President of Indonesia.
General Widjojo, along with Lieutenant General S.B. Yudhoyono (Indonesian President from 2004 to 2014), played a significant role in shaping the modern history of Indonesia. This he was able to do from his last two positions in his military career from 1998 to 2003. He served as the Commandant of Joint Forces Command and Staff College, as Chief-of-Territorial (National Political-Strategic) Affairs for the Indonesian Armed Forces from 1998-2001 and as the Senior Deputy Speaker of Indonesian National Consultative Assembly (representing the Indonesian National Military and National Police) from 2001-2003. At that time, the Indonesian National Consultative Assembly was the highest governmental institution in Republic of Indonesia.
Gen. Widjojo was deeply involved with the reform of the socio-political role of the Indonesian Armed Forces – leading to the peaceful democratic succession of President Suharto in 1998 – with the separation of the National Military and National Police in 1999, with the amendment of the 1945 National Constitution, with the surrender of the privileged position of Chief-of-Territorial Affairs that he had previously held, and with the surrender of the Armed Forces faction in the Indonesian Parliament. He has been instrumental in the transformation of the National Military into a fully professional military, ready to sustain Indonesia in a democratic era. General Widjojo is the author of the book, Transformation of Indonesian National Military.
The agency that Gen. Widjojo currently leads is responsible for high-level national strategy-making, as well as for the policy, command, and staff education for national leadership in government and non-government sectors, including all democratically-elected leaders from the level of Mayor to Governor.
His previous active-duty military/strategic positions include serving as the J-4 (general planning) for the Commander of Indonesian Armed Forces, the Commander of 17th Airborne Brigade of Army Strategic Command and as the Serving Officer in the International Commission for Control and Supervision in Vietnam (1973-1974) and United Nations Emergency Force II (UNEF II) in Sinai (1975-1976).
General Widjojo’s special interests are in the fields of security sector reform, democratization, and post-conflict reconciliation. He was the International Fellow at the U.S. National Defense University, Washington, D.C. where he earned his Master’s Degree (M.S.) in National Security Strategy in 1994.
General Widjojo is the son of Major General TNI Sutojo Siswomihardjo, one of Indonesian National Heroes who was killed in the Indonesian Communist Party abortive coup d’etat in 1965.
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Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Billy chickens,you must be an ignorant fool and imbécile. Muslims do not attache too much importance to crescent symbol, because prophet muhammad did not use it or said that It should be used. It was Later generation that started using it to signify new month for fasting. some scholars are even saying It is prohibited innovation. so, crescent symhol cannot serve as competion with mithraist christian symbols like Cross, statue of Mary and that dancing Idol of Fatima in Portugal.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Oh Ibrahim, the lowest, the dishonorable,
Blah: You have a great deal of time to avoid answering direct questions. It maketh all which read your badly formatted comments to doubt thy honesty and suspect that thou knowest not what truth is.
Doest thou only know lies? Verily, if thy mission is to insult islam and all muslims everywhere, thou doest it very well. Like mohammad, your example to the unbelievers is the best argument you could make for not becoming a muslim.
Thank you.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Billy chickens,you must be an ignorant fool and imbécile. Muslims do not attache too much importance to crescent symbol, because prophet muhammad did not use it or said that It should be used. It was Later generation that started using it to signify new month for fasting. some scholars are even saying It is prohibited innovation.
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Is that so? In that case, I suggest that Ibrahim itace muhammed and all of this pious coreligionists blow up every Mosque and Madrassa sporting a crescent moon. He’d better get started–it’s a big job…
Billy Chickens says
So, then Ibrahim I.M., you agree that it’s OK for me to burn Islamic flags? The West can burn flags of Turkey, Algeria, Maldives, Azerbaijan, Mauritania, Pakistan, Tunisia, etc.? OK then!
And as usual you’re mixed up, this time about Christianity and especially Our Blessed Mother. The “dancing” Blessed Mother is NOT Our Lady of Fatima.
The “dancing” Virgin is the woman of the Apocalypse” in the THE HOLY BIBLE – HOLY BOOK OF CHRISTIANS (Rev 12:14 in case you want to memorize it). She’s the Virgin of Quito. She is depicted with “two wings of a great eagle” and yes, she is dancing, actually STOMPING, on the crescent moon which has the serpent (Satan) coiled around it. But that’s OK with you since you said that the crescent moon is not a symbol of Islam, therefore you have no reason to complain about that.
And oh. Here’s definitive proof that I am not “an ignorant fool and an imbecile”: I am not a Muslim.
gravenimage says
You can’t expect accuracy from a devout Muslim like Ibrahim itace muhammed, Billy.
And he is *obsessed* with the idea that some Christians might dance, sing, or clap in Church.
He lauds child rape, using women as sex slaves, and genocide, but he demands that dancing Christians be “casted into the hottetest lake of fire”.
Muslim “morality”…
Champ says
Hey you’re the imbecile, pal!
StellaSaidSo says
I suspect that Ibrahim is more than one imbecile.
LeftisruiningCanada says
It true, they usually attack in gangs.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Satan (holy spirit) worshiper Gravenimage, That PACT of Umar is not unanimously accepted by muslim scholars. Note:PACT of Umar is a secondary source of sharia known as “Qaulussahaba (saying of the companions of prophet muhammad) “,which is not a binding authority. such acts or statements by companions of prophet muhammad are part of Ijtihad (scholarly opinions). As such are subject to review by later scholars, defending on the circonstances and public interest. See Aljazaeri :Fiqh Ala mazahibul Arbaa (Islamic jurisprudence according to 4 sunni schools). Those scholars, especially modern muslim jurists, are of the opinion that since it is the duty of Islamic state to protect dhimmis against all forms of harm and prophet muhammad said Allah Will be angry with any one Who oppresses dhimmis, they have right to freedom to practice their religion as They believe, including freedom to display symbols of their religion not matter how blasphemous it appears. The only condition is that they shall not harm muslims or commit treachery, which is one of the implied undertaking they agree.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“The only condition is that they shall not harm muslims or commit treachery, which is one of the implied undertaking they agree.”
How are the terms “harm” and “treachery” defined?
Prabh108 says
Heathen-Pagan-Kuffar pact of Eternal Friendship needed.
pr108: so happy to be pagan – I love Nature.
Body, mind, heart, soul designed for Pleasure and atman-Paramatman prem-ras-pyar is eternal. Happy to have taken birth from two divine pure veg lineages. Thank you blissful, magnanimous, Tranquil God!
May all enemies of Nature perish. May all enemies of India perish, never to return to Earth in any form ever again. Trees have souls. Pain felt by trees and plants: proven by Bose. Kleem Krishna Kleem
pr108