I’m sure President Trump is deeply disappointed in not being able to enter Tower Hamlets. But this ridiculous exercise in virtue-signaling, even though it has not (yet) been taken up by the Home Office, only highlights Britain’s hypocrisy and double standards regarding who can enter the country and who cannot. Pamela Geller and I are banned from entering the country for the crime of telling the truth about Islam and jihad. Meanwhile, Britain has a steadily lengthening record of admitting jihad preachers without a moment of hesitation.
Syed Muzaffar Shah Qadri’s preaching of hatred and jihad violence was so hardline that he was banned from preaching in Pakistan, but the UK Home Office welcomed him into Britain.
The UK Home Office also admitted Shaykh Hamza Sodagar into the country, despite the fact that he has said: “If there’s homosexual men, the punishment is one of five things. One – the easiest one maybe – chop their head off, that’s the easiest. Second – burn them to death. Third – throw ’em off a cliff. Fourth – tear down a wall on them so they die under that. Fifth – a combination of the above.”
Theresa May’s relentlessly appeasement-minded government also admitted two jihad preachers who had praised the murderer of a foe of Pakistan’s blasphemy laws. One of them was welcomed by the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Meanwhile, the UK banned three bishops from areas of Iraq and Syria where Christians are persecuted from entering the country.
“London: Muslim Enclave Votes to ‘Ban Trump,’” by Liam Deacon, Breitbart, January 20, 2018:
A London borough – which has the highest percentage of Muslims in the UK – has voted to ban U.S. President Donald J. Trump for the area, declaring him a “bigot”.
The council has been at the centre of serious corruption scandals, including the removal of an Islamist mayor who was found guilty of bribing Muslim groups and wielding “undue spiritual influence” on Muslim voters.
The anti-Trump motion, proposed by Councillor Ohid Ahmed and Councillor Oliur Rahman, passed by a majority vote this week.
It calls for President Trump’s planned state visit to the United Kingdom to be cancelled, adding: “Should the Government still choose to go ahead with State Visit, this Council makes clear that President Trump would not be welcome in our Borough.”
The area in East London includes the famous Tower Bridge and Canary Wharf, but the ban does not appear to be enforceable.
The current Labour mayor, John Biggs, complained that President Trump “doesn’t applaud diversity [and] doesn’t respect the culture of others and doesn’t respect women”.
The mayor added: “He is failing in his leadership and we should not welcome him here. We must be vigorous in our intolerance of his intolerance.”
In response to the news, Peter Golds, the leader of the Conservatives group in the council, tweeted: “In 2015 one of the Tower Hamlets First election candidates tweeted ‘let us support Hitler the Great.’ These people, corruptly elected, have no shame. For the record, our group refused to vote in this farce.”
“Tower Hamlets is home to one of the country’s most diverse communities,” the motion begins, adding that it “has the highest percentage of Muslim residents in England – 35 per cent compared with the national average of 5 per cent”.
After several paragraphs of platitudes about “community cohesion” and “diversity”, it says “this Council notes with shock and alarm the decision by Donald Trump, President of the United States, to ‘retweet’ Islamophobic propaganda from the Britain First Twitter account”.
It also bemoans that he has allegedly “bigoted attitude towards women, ethnic minorities and Muslims which has resulted in examples of division and hatred within the USA and beyond” and attacks his “illogical” decision to move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
The motion also notes that the neighbouring Royal Borough of Greenwich formally adopted a similar motion in December last year….
Champ says
“We must be vigorous in our intolerance of his intolerance.”
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Sure that’s the ticket …
@_@
gravenimage says
Champ, this is also insane given how non-Muslims are harassed and threatened in Tower Hamlets. But then, this is mainstream Islam.
Champ says
Indeed, Graven! Thank you 🙂
Andy says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNKIAuLh7pQ&t=5s
Andy says
The TRUTH about Muslim immigration in England
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnmI9eFzO9A
gravenimage says
Thanks for the videos, Andy.
Andy says
My pleasure grave
You know what they say “A picture is worth a thousand words”
Cheers!
Andy
StellaSaidSo says
If only we had been more vigorous in our intolerance of THEIR intolerance, right from the start.
Champ says
LOL! …touché!
Good one, Stella!
StellaSaidSo says
I don’t recall who said it, Champ, but their chilling observation is imprinted on my mind:
‘Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society.’
J D S says
Doomsday On the way yo America real soon. Why?Because we and our so called political and religious leaders seldom, if ever, speak out against what Islam actually is, with the exception of JW posters and a few others…..
Political correctness, complacency and an islamophobogized nation is the beginning , if not “the”
reason of our downfall.
Passing laws to thwart islam is the only way! GET TO IT!
Peter says
“If only we had been more vigorous in our intolerance of THEIR intolerance, right from the start.”
Indeed. But I fear it is too late to do anything about it.
“The paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.”
Karl R. Popper
roger woodhouse says
The ‘lemming like lefties ‘are beyond all reason and are detirmined to fall over the cliff and take us all with them.Britain has been trapped by these PC vitue sinallers now for the past ten or more years.They think they have a vice like grip over the country.There is however growing a massive resentment which will boil over very soon.’Those that wish to hear will hear.Those that wish to see will see’
BC says
If DT is so misogynist how is it that one of his leading advisers is a woman, he has married three beautiful women and has extremely beautiful daughter who is constantly at his side and supports him at all times?
Diversity the current leftist buzz word comes from the word diverge, which means to separate and go in a different direction!
mariam rove says
Surprised? Not a bit! M
Prabh108 says
I for one am relieved these mlechhes (enemies of hindudom are not anywhere near India.)
Divine Night Sky of India is for Hindu Astrologer and his friend(s).
Jai Hind.
Ghar Wapsi is only ahimsic hope at reforming these freakazoids.
Warning: 100 million jihadists on the loose.
Warning to Hindu: projectjoshua is project Hindu genocide.
May all enemies of DHARMA perish.
One bad book leads to another: From Talmud to Torah (sequel) to Koran – thinking of these filthy desert books makes me feel like vomiting. Koran is not sequel but squeal (attempt at pig humour after all one avatar was BOAR.) Laughter yoga is oh so good. ha ha ha so states feminist metaphysician. (warning to lover of freedom: Keep safe distance from all feminist.)
Thankfully me and my peoples have RIG VED(a) antiquity of RikVed: 90 000 years plus and counting as well as many other worthy shastras. Shastra refers to all sacred writings from ancient and modern India.
excuse typos if any.
LeftisruiningCanada says
You think the Talmud came first?
gravenimage says
I’m not sure he’s big on reason and linear thinking, LeftisruiningCanada, given some of the things he has said, like Jews being responsible for slums in India.
He also believes the Rigvedas are 90,000 years old, which would predate the dawn of civilization by well over 80,000 years. (By the way, scholars date the earliest versions of these texts to 1700–1100 at the very earliest).
Thomas Kimball says
I want some of Prabh108s mushroom stash! I think we could all use some to help make sense of this world or at least be able to understand our politicians! Please Prabh108 Give generously!
LeftisruiningCanada says
Yes, the kaleidoscopic way in which ideas mesh in his mind is something wonderful to behold.
LeftisruiningCanada says
He’s too funny to dislike.
gravenimage says
Sorry–I meant 1700–1100 BC.
And is Prabh108 the real thing? I think so; he seems too idiosyncratic to be a plant.
But certainly, most Hindus are nothing like him–thank goodness.
Walter Sieruk says
This, about President Trump ,shows the power in influence of the Stealth jihad otherwise called the Muslim method of Islamic Gradualism in England. In contrast to the way of the violent jihad or also called the militant jihad .This non-violent form of the jihad for Islam is a very sly, insidious, subtle and deceptive way of working for the advancement of Islam.
This Muslim scheme for achieving the goal of the Islamic agenda is as, many times, as subtly effective as it is demonically clever. Furthermore, this Islamic gradualism, in some ways, is very similar to the instruction printed in the book entitled THE ART OF WAR by Sun Tzu. Which reads “At first, then, exhibit the coyness of a maiden, until the enemy gives you an opening; afterwards emulate the rapidity of a running hare, and it will be too late for the enemy to opposes you”
StellaSaidSo says
Indeed, Walter Sieruk, as a society and a civilisation, we have far more to fear from the stealth jihad than from the violent jihad. First the hijira, then the infiltration, then the gradual expansion of influence, then the takeover. All in accordance with the MB playbook.
gravenimage says
Stealth Jihad and violent Jihad work hand in glove.
Jim says
This borough is the first, but not the last, to vote this way. It is a harbinger of our future relationship with Great Britain. Gone will be the “special relationship”. Gone will be our longtime ally. And as all of Europe is going the same way, who will our allies be? Even Canada has knuckled under, swiftly and badly, under its current boy Prime Minister. When all the world falls to Muslim domination, who will be our allies?
mortimer says
These same people in Tower Hamlets would also vote ‘YES’ if they were asked ‘Do you support Islamic political supremacism?’
Eur says
Of course…and their chance will come. The cover image of the article is extremely unpleasant.Muslims will form their political parties … and control education … and education is the future of a country. Our consumerist and capitalist society only thinks in the short term, there are no political leaders with criteria. Islam will win, without a doubt … and it will submit us.
gravenimage says
If you think there is no doubt that Islam will win, why do you even bother to post here, EUR?
StellaSaidSo says
Eur, I know that when you are surrounded by it, as you are, it is difficult to feel optimistic. But don’t give up. The tide is turning.
gravenimage says
Stella, I probably spoke too harshly to Eur.
It can be hard not to despair sometimes.
StellaSaidSo says
Eur is a member of a tiny minority culture in Europe, whose traditional homeland is being swamped by Muslim immigrants. The threat is literally on the doorstep. Who wouldn’t despair? Not every poster here has the luxury of viewing the catastrophe from a safe distance.
gravenimage says
Stella, I don’t think *any* of us are watching this from a safe distance–there is no safe distance.
But you are quite right that some places are under more immediate threat than others.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Good posts.
It must be quite nasty living surrounded by islam in the West. Just watching documentaries on towns in the UK makes me feel queasy, so disgusting and hateful do some of these people show themselves to be.
There seems to be really no way to be rational with them. All they do is push push push for control and having their way in all things. Their way of speaking is utterly bombastic, arrogant and, frankly, irrational.
The way they take over housing areas is frightful. They abuse everyone around them, knowing that neither the police or the people themselves can or will do anything against them, simply because they have great numbers who are willing to protest on the street, or violently attack you when the cameras and reporters aren’t looking anymore.
Sometimes i feel like giving up, and there isn’t a mosque within an hours drive from me.
Ray Jarman says
To paraphrase Sir Winston Churchill’s statement of Nevil Chamberlain’s cowardness, “Poor Nevil, the world has not forgotten the cowardly act he committed against humanity and by God, I will do everything to ensure that it is not forgotten.” I pray that a Tory leader will emerge and cleanse the scourge of the cult of the Pedophilic Murdering Slug from the land of the once guardian of freedom for all. The last time I was in London, I stayed at the Marriott Hotel in Paddington and I did not even recognize the place where once pubs abounded the streets and fish & chip stands providing great tasting food are now inhabited by dirty establishments selling halal to filthy individuals needing grooming and maybe some cologne to mask the horrible smell of their unwashed bodies. I had to walk about a mile to Beaker Street to find a pub selling Theakstons Old Peculier or even a Courage Pub. Everything changed from filth to clean streets of old well maintained buildings existed. I decided to move from the Marriott to the Churchill Hotel and finally had a chance to relax in a place that I felt safe. I literally cry when I think about what is transpiring in the once magnificent city of London.
StellaSaidSo says
‘I literally cry when I think about what is transpiring in the once magnificent city of London.’
You’re not alone, Ray Jarman. I cry for Paris, too.
Ray Jarman says
Stella, I agree. Is it even safe to walk (especially for la femme) to walk from the Eiffel to the Louvre. My wife and have strolled the paths between the roads and stopped to adore some of the ponds and flowers along the walk. Also, Please tell me that one can still go jogging on the paths of Versailles and the side pavements around the Palace. I used to do that when I worked for NATO at Evere when I stayed at the Chavel Rouge in Versailles. I would probably be sad to see the harm being done by the pernicious animals even in places such as Rouen, Lyon and especially Lourdes.
StellaSaidSo says
Versailles is well-guarded and patrolled, as one would expect, Ray. The Eiffel Tower now has a glass wall around it. There are armed soldiers and/or police at all the major tourist attractions (eg Notre Dame, Louvre) and at gares and airports. The number of streets to avoid in Paris is increasing. Muslim youths harass kuffar (especially kuffar women) for sport, and cheerfully p*iss on churches and monuments. Parisiens put on a brave face for the benefit of visitors, but many – especially les femmes – admit privately that they feel besieged and vulnerable. Leaving Paris is not always the answer; I know one French family who moved from the banlieues north of Paris to a town 3 hours away, only to find themselves, 6 months later, living virtually next door to hundreds of newly-arrived ‘refugees’ from ‘Syria’, all of them able-bodied men of military age.
Ray Jarman says
Thanks for the information. I still think my wife and I will visit France and Belgium this spring.
Jusqu’à la prochaine fois.
StellaSaidSo says
The sooner the better, Ray, before conditions get worse. France is beautiful at any time of the year, but printemps is the prettiest season. I hope to return in the summer. Much as I love Paris, I am always relieved to escape to the countryside, most of which – for now at least! – remains entirely French in character.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Interesting posts.
It is actually a crying shame.
Infidel says
So sad to hear…and I ENTIRELY BLAME THE UK POLITICOS for this, esp the slimy libs..
mortimer says
The United Kingdom has now taken a general stand (with many honorable exceptions) to OPPOSE THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
When points of view that are unfashionable are BANNED, that is CENSORSHIP. UK now has a department of CENSORHIP in the Home Office whose main job is to oppose the freedom of expression.
Caroline says
I can tell you, people in Britain are furious about this. Terror-enabler Khan does not speak for the vast majority of British people. He is getting ideas way above his station and he is not as important as he thinks he is. All crime has rocketed in London under his watch, maybe he needs to concentrate on that, instead of meddling in matters of state.
gravenimage says
I’m glad patriotic Britons are angry.
Jayell says
‘Terror-enabler Khan does not speak for the vast majority of British people.’
Khan speaks for himself and his muslim cronies, and a bunch of PC-leftie morons, and that’s your lot. He is generally despised by most of the proper British, and he knows it. And Tower Hamlets is an utter disgrace (it’s generally referred to as the ‘Islamic Republic of Tower Hamlets’). The last (muslim) mayor before this one was as corrupt as a 9-pound note, and had to be removed from office – the last I heard there was talk of him being dragged before a criminal court. To be honest, this unholy bunch in Tower Hamlets cut no ice whatever with the rest of the city or the country. They can huff and puff all the Islamic halitosis that they like, but they don’t control the country, and Mr Trump can come across the pond to anywhere in the UK just any time he wants!!
WPM says
I am sure President Trump is upset he is unpopular in a town turn into a shithole by importing terrorist and terrorist enablers .I guess it is only right to ban unpopular leaders you disagree with why bother debating them or trying to talk to them about your point of view ,when their is no logic to your point of view .Islam the “first group think political movement” Hitler would be green with envy if he were not sharing a bunk with Mohammed in hell .In NYC we have our share of Islamic movers and shakers that are coming up the political ladder we are about 20 years behind England in them muscling into government and ruining our everyday lives.
thesailor says
If Tower Hamlets rejects all those who are “bigots” there will be no-one left in the Council to run the sh*thole.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Savage mad devil Trump and fascist evil Netanyahu shall be banned from entering all cities, because they represent the Dujjal (end of this world leader of oppressors) who Will be defeated by prophet Isa when he descends for justice to prevail. Next, one horne Will grow on the heads of these two Dujjals, mad devil Trump and evil Netanyahu. Ugly mad devil Trump even resembles the senior Satan (holy spirit).
thesailor says
Have you considered applying to Monty Python’s Flying Circus as a scriptwriter?
Andy says
To: Ibrahim itace muhammed
If you don’t want to try Monty Python’s Flying Circus then give Benny Hill a go!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4XCpGs89Pw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q-0bgKH3IA
LeftisruiningCanada says
Ibrahim, the silly, the reprehensible,
Take your meds, and hide your blackberry back under the plastic mattress cover, matron is coming.
Karen says
LOL ?
Eur says
Zionists dream of creating the great Israel and that is horrible, Muslims dream of creating the universal caliphate. Muslims are a gang of fascist scoundrels.You do not cheat anyone anymore … scum.
gravenimage says
Eur wrote:
Zionists dream of creating the great Israel and that is horrible
……………………….
Who actually talks about “greater Israel”? No actual Israelis. It mostly pops up as a bogey man with Muslims and neo-Nazis like StormFront.
StellaSaidSo says
Eur said ‘the great Israel’, not ‘greater Israel’, GI.
And by ‘that is horrible’, Eur means horrible in the poster Ibrahim Itace Mohammed’s opinion.
gravenimage says
On rereading Eur’s comments, you are probably right, Stella.
Initially, I thought he was saying that Israelis were as bad as ravening Muslims.
Eur, my sincere apologies if I misread your post.
R Russell says
Hi Again Ibrahim.
Your Koran Isa is NOT the Bible Jesus. Compare their characters and you will see without a doubt they MUST be 2 different persons.
Mohammed said the injil was ok when he was alive. We can prove it is the same injil we have today. Will you believe Mohammed and discover what the injil says today in the Gospels of Matthew Mark Luke and John?
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/quran_affirms_paul.htm
https://carm.org/quran-says-bible-not-corrupt
gravenimage says
Muslims believe that Jews and Christians “corrupted” their scriptures.
LeftisruiningCanada says
And we’re all still waiting for the evidence.
(koran doesn’t count)
Anton says
I wonder How can someone ‘corrupt’ something that didn’t even exist back then? Or maybe the first Christian scriptures appeared later than Qur’an?
R Russell says
Gravenimage.
Yes I am aware of that but they cannot give proof, but the Koran contradicts their ‘common’ belief because the Injil was OK according to Mohammed when he was alive. We can prove it is the same Gospel today that Mohammed had so that is why I requested he read them,.
R Russell says
Anton,
Forgive me if I have misunderstood what you have written. The New Testament was complete by 95AD so was most definitely around at the time of Mohammed.
gravenimage says
Agreed, R Russell.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
R Russel, what prophet muhammad met was a mixed of some traces of the Injil taught by true jesus and pagan doctrines imported into It. The Quran inspired by true God of Abraham, moses ,Jesus and muhammad, Identified what is genuine and confirmed it and rejected pagan doctrines líke Godman and Begotten son of God. Alas, the Satan inspired the misguided mithraist christians not accept the correction and insist on taking both genuine and fake ones uptil now that Will lead them to burning hellfire together with the Satan(holy spirit) Who misled them. so, Mr Russel, you can continue with darkness until you die and be casted into hottest lake of forever. I candidly advise you to quickily drop mithraist christianity and embrace Islam, the only way to salvation and felicity.
Thank you
gravenimage says
The vile Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
R Russel, what prophet muhammad met was a mixed of some traces of the Injil taught by true jesus and pagan doctrines imported into It.
…………………………………
Muslims claim that “Jesus” was originally as savage as anything else in the Qur’an, and that things like the “Golden Rule” and loving thy neighbor were made up by Christians.
And Ibrahim itace muhammed’s constant claims that Christianity is “Mithraist” is doctrinaly and historically ludicrous.
More:
The Quran inspired by true God of Abraham, moses ,Jesus and muhammad, Identified what is genuine and confirmed it and rejected pagan doctrines líke Godman and Begotten son of God.
…………………………………
Ibrahim itace muhammed believes that a loving God is “the Satan”. This says a great deal about the Muslim mindset.
More:
Alas, the Satan inspired the misguided mithraist christians not accept the correction and insist on taking both genuine and fake ones uptil now that Will lead them to burning hellfire together with the Satan(holy spirit) Who misled them. so, Mr Russel, you can continue with darkness until you die and be casted into hottest lake of forever. I candidly advise you to quickily drop mithraist christianity and embrace Islam, the only way to salvation and felicity.
Thank you
…………………………………
And if you don’t, Ibrahim itace muhmmed has affirmed that pious Muslims can murder you.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Notice the lack of evidence provided.
Oh, and the general lack of coherence too.
If Ibrahim were to offer a citation to support his oft repeated nonsense, we might think he has something more to offer than regurgitated, pathetic, ideas from ahmed deedat.
gravenimage says
The appalling Ibrahim itace muhammed wrotre:
Savage mad devil Trump and fascist evil Netanyahu shall be banned from entering all cities, because they represent the Dujjal (end of this world leader of oppressors)
…………………………….
Note that Ibrahim itace muhammed considers anyone who wants to protect his people from being murdered by Muslims to represent the “Dujjal”. He has said that no one should be able to defend against Jihad.
More:
…who Will be defeated by prophet Isa when he descends for justice to prevail.
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What he is referring to is the Muslim “Jesus”, whose role in the last days is to “slaughter Christians*. This genocide is what he considers “justice”.
This should not surprise, though–he has openly said that he loos forward to taking part in the genocide of the Jews. *Ugh*.
More:
Next, one horne Will grow on the heads of these two Dujjals, mad devil Trump and evil Netanyahu.
…………………………….
I’ll tell you what–I’ll seriously consider your views as soon as this happens…
More:
Ugly mad devil Trump even resembles the senior Satan (holy spirit).
…………………………….
Ibrahim itace muhammed has said that he saw the Holy Spirit in a Christian graveyard in Nigeria (what was he doing there–desecrating the place?).
He never said that the Holy Spirit resembled President Trump, though.
Really, it’s quite interesting to see how the minds of pious Muslims work…
roger woodhouse says
What a clown you are Itace mohamed.Your non prophet mohammed (piss be upon him)will NEVER be accepted by the British.You and your backward third world cult WILLbe kicked out of Europe and soon.Best if you all leave peacefully now.If you can wean youtselves off our benefits .
Lizzie says
Tell your muslim brothers that the Lord Jesus will return in 2020 and its the END of Islam and all false religions. It’s time you swapped sides and thought things through.
Its not Donald Trump who espouses satan and evil it is you Islamics. Looking at the history of your prophet do you really believe that this man would please God or that his teachings were holy?
God gave you a brain so why not use it and face the facts.
Bill says
I see no reason for President Trump to visit London, His security cannot be assured, It would be a risk not worth taking. Should England ever want his cooperation in anything, they can come her and ask for it.
StellaSaidSo says
Theresa the Appeaser and her scummy chum Khan think that they have the upper hand on this one.
They are wrong.
StellaSaidSo says
And sooner or later they will want American co-operation. Perhaps even American troops.
Theresa May has not figured out yet that the EU is not Britain’s friend.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“I’m sure President Trump is deeply disappointed in not being able to enter Tower Hamlets”
Bingo.
Trump should reciprocate by banning every muslim from Tower Hamlets from ever visiting the USA for the rest of time.
gravenimage says
London borough with highest percentage of Muslims in UK votes to ban Trump from entering
…………………
Well, the crime-ridden Tower Hamlets is already a No Go Zone.
Shmoovie says
The current mayor complains that President Trump doesn’t “applaud diversity”, nor does he respect other cultures or women.
Lol!! Who is he really speaking about?!
roberta says
If Margaret Thatcher could have seen the future.
gravenimage says
I wish she were PM now.
Andy says
Or good ole’ Winnie! Winston Churchill!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBWBPN-MR2A
gravenimage says
Yes–Churchill would be even better. If only we had men and women like this now.
Andy says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p6AXAN7w-M
Andy says
Hello gravenimage,
I think Anne Marie Waters, Tommy Robinson and President Donald John Trump are Men and Women for our time who will stand up and fight this evil that is gripping the world at present moment!
God Bless Them and all freedom fighters such as JW and many many others who are awake and not asleep at the wheel on this problem.
Andy says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IQ_9FZnEHo
StellaSaidSo says
I heartily agree re AMW, DJT, and TR, Andy.
And all three will play a significant part in saving Britain.
Thankyou for taking the time to post the videos!
Andy says
My pleasure StellaSaidSo and Thank you for your insightful comments!
Cheers!
Andy
StellaSaidSo says
Thanks Andy! We’re all giving it our best shot! Cheers, S
StellaSaidSo says
She did. She saw the danger of the EU, and her party dumped her.
Indiana Tom says
Pamela Geller and I are banned from entering the country for the crime of telling the truth about Islam and jihad.
You two may not be missing as much as you think you are.
Indiana Tom says
The mayor added: “He is failing in his leadership and we should not welcome him here. We must be vigorous in our intolerance of his intolerance.”
The mayor is really Big Bother and is speaking Doublespeak from the Ministry of Truth of IngSoc at Airstrip 1 in Oceania.
Wellington says
Assuming there are still many in Britain who are sick of all this shit, and considering that the UK is leaderless (I would include the Queen here who on her watch Britain has gone from a free nation to an unfree nation——-I don’t give a damn about constitutional precedents and the role of the monarch in modern times, blah, blah, blah, the Queen has done nothing to reverse this horrible descent), when are the people at large going to take charge of their own country and rid themselves of monstrosities like the BBC and the current government led by that worse-than-nothing, Theresa (Sharia) May?
If it’s not time for a revolution in the UK, when will it ever be? Man up. Another Oliver Cromwell is needed. Soon like.
gravenimage says
Yes–the Queen should speak uo in defense of her people.
StellaSaidSo says
She probably does, but discreetly, as the rules dictate.
There is no advantage to anyone in her speaking openly, except to Muslims, who would view any protest on HM’s part as evidence of their imminent victory.
LeftisruiningCanada says
If the Queen were actually annoyed, she’d have one of her secret ninjas thrash the PM up one side and down the other in the longest of her reeeeally long gallery rooms. Then hung up as the traitor she is. There wold be many other casualties before HM’s Wrath would abate.
In reality, what probably happens when they meet, is that they get all relaxed on some bean bags, take off their human face masks, and have a natter in whatever lizardy language they really speak. They laugh at us. Probably.
StellaSaidSo says
Bring on the secret ninjas, I say.
Seriously, folks, we should be glad of HM’s discreet silence, and pray for her continued occupation of the throne. The alternative is too ghastly to contemplate.
gravenimage says
The Queen has spoken out every so often:
“Queen’s Christmas message includes horrors of jihad terror attacks in London and Manchester”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/12/queens-christmas-message-includes-horrors-of-jihad-terror-attacks-in-london-and-manchester
I wish she’d do more. With all respect, I don’t believe her speaking out would embolden Musiims; I think it would hearten her subjects.
StellaSaidSo says
The Queen understands that there is a difference between making reference to events, and protesting them. She may exert whatever influence she sees fit in her private meetings with her Prime Minister, but she is constrained from opining publicly on matters political. Most of her ‘subjects’ know how the system works, and do not expect her to ‘rally the troops’.
gravenimage says
Stella, while it is best for the British monarch to avoid favoring political candidates and airing their views on minor matters, sitting silently while the nation is destroyed is *not* something she is forced to do.
After all, King George VI spoke out against the threat of Fascism.
StellaSaidSo says
‘After all, King George VI spoke out against the threat of Fascism’
Indeed he did. But the situations are not analogous. The fascist threat came from an external source against which Britain and its allies were (as they had been previously) united in the event of war.
The current situation is very different. There is no conventional threat from a foreign nation, as there was in the 1930s. And the political class clearly does not think that the UK is ‘being destroyed’; quite the opposite, in fact.
Under the existing constraints, ‘sitting silently’ is exactly what the Queen is obliged to do.
Wellington says
Queen Elizabeth rather reminds me of King Charles I with a twist. He actively presided over the attempt to destroy English liberties while Elizabeth has sat passively by as her nation is losing its liberties all the while invaded by scores of Muslims who have no interest in assimilating but who want to make Britain into another shithole Muslim country with Sharia as the law of the land.
As for any emboldening of Muslims should the Queen have been more forthright while her realm is being transformed into something less, I don’t care if it does embolden Muslims (gravenimage thinks it wouldn’t and she could be correct). When you have to be concerned about emboldening those who wish to destroy your society anyway, you have already gone a long way towards losing. The Queen should have said more by now and risked her throne. What good is any high office if you can’t lay it on the line from time to time? I agree with Stella in one respect and that is that Elizabeth’s heir at this point in time would be even worse, perhaps far worse.
StellaSaidSo says
Britain is a Constitutional Monarchy. The Queen reigns, but she does not rule. As I pointed out in an earlier post, under a Constitutional Monarchy the monarch is constrained from opining publicly on matters political. In her regular meetings with her Prime Minister, the Queen is free to express her point of view, and to give advice, but she cannot be seen to be partisan. No doubt there have been many times during her long reign that HM has disagreed with government policy, but governing is not her job.
Ray Jarman says
Stella, Why pray does the British military and civil servants swear allegiance to the Crown rather than the Parliament? I posed a question once with some friends in Evere, Belgium at NATO Hqs. during our Friday beer call. I asked the question which went: “If a PM such as Clement Attlee or Jim Callaghan was the Prime Minister during the Falklands war with Argentina and refused to authorize the military to stop the Argentines and say Charles was king and told the military to intervene to protect British territory and its citizens, what would the military do?” The enlisted members who were at the table thought that Parliament would rule the day and when I asked Brigadier General Tony Hill to respond and he said with a smile that the military would follow a King Charles as he and every British officer signed an oath to the Crown and not to Parliament. I we also discussed the questioned the funding of such an operation since Parliament controlled the funding and nullifying Parliament and new elections were discussed. Obviously this has not occurred yet but if the inept queen had any back bone and really cared for her citizens, she would direct the Prime Minister to protect her citizens at all cost and rid the nation of this plight and if the twit at 5 Downing Street would not do so, new elections would be forth coming forth with. Her father, King George VI, certainly would not be accepting the cult’s ravage of his citizens.
Wellington says
Stella: You have missed my point. I know all about the constitutional restraints you mentioned, the difference between reigning and ruling, etc. I have soaked myself in British history for half a century now, from Roman and Anglo-Saxon times onwards (I even translated all of Beowulf from the original Old English to Modern English, an intellectual achievement I still pride myself on). I taught English and British history for a third of a century. I have read Bagehot et al. So I say time is way overdue to break precedent, to chuck tradition, to forget about constitutional “niceties.”
My God, Britain is dying and people still want to bring up what the monarch, constitutionally speaking, can do and not do. Way past this, Stella. Way past this.
You don’t have to agree with me, but please understand I know the constraints established over centuries on the British monarch, whether upon John in the 13th century, Charles II in subtle form with the Restoration, even more so because of the Glorious Revolution of 1688 which brought William and Mary to the throne, and the transformation to a pure constitutional monarchy under Victoria, etc.. I know this “stuff” well. Time to break those restraints and risk everything since Britain is in a heap of hurt and moving very quickly to being Britain no more.
When one’s nation has gone from being free to unfree and being changed into something unrecognizable, to hell with constitutional limitations. Once again, you don’t have to agree with me, but know well that I am not ignorant of the largely unwritten British Constitution.
Dire times, you know, require dire solutions. Like now in Britain—-and starting with the monarch. What good are constitutional “these things” or “those things” if you lose your nation? Rather like saying, to invoke a medical metaphor, the patient died but the operation was a success.
I remain adamant. Elizabeth II has not done enough. She has failed her nation.
StellaSaidSo says
Ray Jarman, I think Brigadier General Tony Hill was correct in the case you described, for the reason he gave. I hasten to say, however, that I am not an expert in these matters. Under a Constitutional Monarchy, the monarch has very limited powers. The Queen has no direct power. She does not RULE. The job is largely ceremonial and symbolic. She is entitled to be kept informed of events at Westminster, and to express her opinions privately to her PM, and to offer advice. The stability of the system depends on the monarch remaining impartial. It is a mistake to interpret HM’s aloofness as ineptness or lack of concern for the people of Britain. She has always been a model of propriety and conscientiousness in the execution of her duties, as was her father, King George VI. I have no doubt that HM has voiced her concerns to Theresa May about the direction Britain is headed in, but she has no power to intervene directly in the political process. All that aside, the last thing Britain needs right now is an election that would put the communist Jeremy Corbyn into Number 10.
Ray Jarman says
Stella, My main point is that the Crown has power not used since Edward. I just don’t wish to see the country whose people, literature, and history be trampled under by this pernicious murdering cult. The American constitution is predicated upon the philosophies of Locke, Hobbes and Burke for which I am so very grateful. I just wish to see the people of that great nation stand up to Islam as Henry V stood up to the French at Azincourt and listen to another great speech like the one Shakespeare wrote for the great king.
StellaSaidSo says
Wellington,
I am not in a position to know the extent of the prior knowledge of everyone who posts here, and neither is anyone else. If you know all about the constraints on the power of the British monarchy, then good for you, I am glad to see that there are others who have an interest in history. We’re in the minority these days.
If someone asks me a question, I do my best to answer it within the time I have available. I did not accuse you of ignorance, as you imply in your somewhat intemperate 5.17pm Jan 23. If I missed your point in your earlier post (3:44am, Jan 23), I apologise. I note that you asked one question in this post, which I took as rhetorical. I offered by way of reply a brief outline of the limits to the monarch’s power, mindful that other JW readers had also shown interest in this matter. This was not, as it now transpires, the information that you required. I conclude, on re-reading your post, that your ‘point’ was that you are less than impressed with what you see as the Queen’s failure to take a stand in relation to the matter of the Islamisation of Britain, and that you expected some kind of response from me on this issue.
As it happens, I share your concerns about the dire future Britain faces if a decisive change in direction is not implemented as a matter of urgency. I am puzzled as to why you would assume that I would disagree with you as to the desperateness of the situation. I am very familiar with the events of the past 20 years in Britain, and I would be delighted if the Queen was in a position to speak publicly. I saw her face the day of the 7/7 memorial service at St Paul’s, and there can be no doubt that she cares very deeply. HM is not a fool, like her unfortunate eldest son, and even the most fervent Australian Republicans concede that she has been gracious, diligent and conscientious in the execution of her duties as Queen. However, given her advanced years, I think it is unreasonable to expect HM to suddenly break out in blazing chariot like Boadicea reincarnated, though the thought may well have crossed her mind.
As none of the major political parties currently offer much in terms of leadership material, things look very grim indeed. Jacob Rees-Mogg is a promising contender for Theresa’s job, but he seems reluctant to tackle the Islam issue, which is now the ONLY issue that matters. Whether Anne Marie Waters’ FOR BRITAIN party can gain enough support in time to have an impact at the next election is the question on which Britain’s very survival may depend. Smart, articulate, knowledgeable about Islam, not owned by foreign interests, and passionate about saving Britain, Anne Marie could be the one to turn things around. If the volcano doesn’t erupt first.
Wellington says
Appreciate the reference, Stella, to Boadicea, which woman’s brave resistance did not turn out well but kudos to her for her brave resistance in any case.
When you risk takeover from the enemy, all bets are off (including constitutional monarchical bets). This has been my essential point all along, which is why I have concluded that Elizabeth has simply not done nearly enough (do you really, really want to argue she has?). My God, in 1952 when she ascended the throne, the UK was a free country and devoid of Muslim vermin. Now, two-thirds of a century later the UK is no longer a free country and is infested with Muslim vermin and leftist dribble defending all this rot. And what has the Queen done to thwart any of this? Virtually nothing. And you see no culpability here because of constitutional restrictions?
Time to risk all. The Queen has not done this. Profound shame on her. I used to admire her. I no longer do. Her nation is being transformed into a non-free nation and that is why I made the comparison of her to Charles I (1625-1649).
As I wrote yesterday, time for an Oliver Cromwell. Anymore, I fear, even a Winston Churchill will not do because Churchill, truly great man that he was, was not ready to oppose the crown; Cromwell was ready to do even this for liberty. As great a man as Churchill was, and he was very great, Cromwell was even greater. I submit (not meant, of course, in an Islamic way) that Britain is passing from the needs of a Churchill to a Cromwell. Yes, I believe things have become this dire for the Sceptered Isle.
I just want to say that I appreciate and agree with so many of your posts. I do not mean to pick a fight with you. Far from it. But, for me, truth is paramount over all things, even love let alone friendship. A la Luther at Worms in 1521, I can do no other. And actually, I hope we can get back on the “same page” very soon. You are smart and informed and, God knows, I don’t want to make an enemy of you. But I don’t like what Elizabeth has done and nothing, not even friendship, will take precedence over this conviction of mine.
StellaSaidSo says
Wellington,
I find it somewhat disturbing that you appear to take the view that if someone disagrees with you, they are your ‘enemy’. I am not here to make enemies. I am here to learn, to share information which can strengthen us all in this great battle, and because I enjoy debate. I am currently convalescing following a long illness, and my mobility is limited, which is why I have more time than usual to participate in online discussions.
I have not argued that Queen Elizabeth ‘has done enough’; I have argued that she has the Constitutional power to do very little. That Britain in 1952 was ‘a free country devoid of Muslim vermin’ and in 2018 it isn’t, is hardly her fault. 20 years ago, when Blair was new to Number 10, HM was already 71 years old. By the time the alarm bells really started ringing, she was in her 80’s. What, realistically, could she do?
I blame the politicians – especially Tony Blair, of whom (I have it on good authority) HM was not fond, and who opened the floodgates to mass third world immigration. John Major, who signed the Maastricht trap, also has blood on his hands, along with David Cameron, the egregious Theresa May, and others. All of them Marxist-globalists, in favour of One World Gov’t under a totalitarian ‘New World Order’. These are the villains who are ultimately responsible for the dire situation in which the Western world finds itself today. (For further villainous names, google the attendees list at Bilderberg, and the list of winners of the Kalergi Prize.)
I agree, Britain desperately needs a Cromwell or a Churchill. Or a Donald Trump or a Viktor Orban. Such leaders are thin on the ground in Britain. Nigel Farage was looking good, but the Muslim Brotherhood frightened him. Current UKIP leader Henry Bolton is a dud, and UKIP a spent force unless they put David Kurten into the leadership PDQ. Jacob Rees-Mogg is great on Brexit, but wobbly on Islam. Raheem Kassam has the makings of a future leader, but isn’t ready yet. Right now, IMO, Britain’s best candidate for driver of the blazing chariot is Anne Marie Waters.
There is no point in obsessing over QE II’s failings, real or imagined. We don’t have time for all the things that should have happened but didn’t. Our energies must be directed towards activity which advances our cause.
Champ says
Stella wrote:
I blame the politicians – especially Tony Blair, of whom (I have it on good authority) HM was not fond, and who opened the floodgates to mass third world immigration. John Major, who signed the Maastricht trap, also has blood on his hands, along with David Cameron, the egregious Theresa May, and others. All of them Marxist-globalists, in favour of One World Gov’t under a totalitarian ‘New World Order’. These are the villains who are ultimately responsible for the dire situation in which the Western world finds itself today. (For further villainous names, google the attendees list at Bilderberg, and the list of winners of the Kalergi Prize.)
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Yes–I completely agree, Stella!
gravenimage says
Stella, Elizabeth’s father spoke out against Fascism. Do you think he was overstepping his bounds to have done so?
It did a great deal to hearten the British people. My mother, who served in the British army as a young woman, said how inspiring the speech was to her and her sister.
I think something from the Queen today would mean a lot to her subjects suffering under the Muslim invasion.
gravenimage says
Good posts, Wellington.
OT, but I am impressed by your having translated Beowulf. It was something I considered at one time, then thought better of after reading Seamus Heaney’s fine translation. I wonder what you think of this work? I especially laud the decision to present the Old English text side by side with the translation. Even if one does not read Old English, one can get a sense of how the work scans, which has its own poetry.
StellaSaidSo says
@ GI
See my 10:19am Jan 24.
The situations are not analogous.
A not insignificant difference is the fact that some of the Muslim invaders are also the Queen’s subjects.
StellaSaidSo says
@ Ray Jarman, in response to your 3:24am.
None of us wants to see Britain submit to Islam. For the nation which largely created the free world to become unfree would be a tragedy unsurpassed in our history.
Given the failure of British politicians to even acknowledge the imminent catastrophe, I can understand why people might look to the Crown for leadership. Personally, I wish that Edward I could rise from his long slumber, and hunt down every last traitor who infests these tiny islands which gave the world so much. But even if HM Queen Elizabeth had the power to intervene, what, exactly, could she do? Lead an army of cross-bowmen in an attack on Westminster? Much as I would love to see that, it is unlikely to happen. Nevertheless, HM may yet decide that the situation demands a more forthright response than allowed for in the rule book.
All that I have tried to do here is provide basic information regarding the limits of the power of the British monarch under a Constitutional Monarchy. I didn’t say that I agreed with the rules, or even that I support the institution of Monarchy. In my view, the leader who saves Britain is going to have to come from the political class, or from the grass-roots community. And they will need every ounce of support that we can offer.
Wellington says
Stella: Not an enemy and certainly not with you. It’s just that I look upon argument as a sport and in sport I play to win. I also have deeply held convictions, and as much as I value friendship I value them even more.
I agree with you that the politicians are definitely more to blame than the Queen but I cannot, will not, remove all guilt from her. Here we will have to agree to disagree. Now, back to the fight and may a Cromwell be lurking out there in the wilds of Britain someplace. I like what Andrew Marvell wrote of Oliver:
“And well he therefore does and well has guessed,
Who in his age has always forward pressed,
And knowing not where Heaven’s choice may light,
Girds yet his sword and ready stands to fight,
If these the times then this must be the man.”
Wellington says
Gravenimage: I know of Heaney’s work but do not have a copy. For my translation I used the famous Klaeber text, which is scholarly extraordinarily so. It was the text assigned me by the English professor I studied under. As my minor for my Master’s degree in History I chose English and did all my work in this minor in Old English.
It’s like learning another language, so different is it. Middle English is a breeze to learn compared to Old English. It’s amazing how heavily inflected Old English was, much like German. Almost all that has been lost as word order over inflection took precedence as the centuries rolled on. What also has been lost is the richness of the language. As examples, one of the words for God in OE is Liffrea, which comes from the two words, lif (life) and frea (lord), so God is the Lifelord; and one of the words for the ocean is hronrade, which comes from the word for whale, hron, and the word for road, rade, so the ocean is the whaleroad. How beautiful.
Now, back to the fight and let’s hope enough of the Anglo-Saxon spirit still remains in the UK (the Celtic spirit too) that effete elites and Buttlims will eventually know they will not prevail. For Britain’s sake. For the West’s sake. For freedom’s sake.
Ray Jarman says
Wellington, Not to intrude into your conversation but it caused me to recall a fantastic time I had in Edinburgh back in 1987. I was with a Royal Sergeant Major, Bobby McFadden, who was a Jodi lad and he took me to the pub where Rabbie Burns wrote many of his poems and someone was reading a couple of selections. We were there to coordinate with a military unit having a NATO responsibility. I never realized how beautiful the language was and as an American, without great training, I don’t think I could ever master the rhythm much less the accent. To add pleasure upon an already great evening I felt like the boy to whom Edgar Allen Poe wrote, “The teeming brain of childhood requires no external world of incident to occupy or amuse it,” in walks the members of Fairport Convention with Sandra Denny and they were convinced to play some of their Gaelic works.
Also one other note, I enjoy the back and forth here and have learned quite a bit but I still don’t know why everyone will not completely ignore Ibrahim’s rants. I find it hard to believe that he is either serious or Muslim.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Ah Sandy Denny, a voice of great expressive qualities.
“Where did the time go…..”
MFritz says
Their imams ordered them to vote for it…
KRJ says
“Doesn’t respect women”? This to a photo of women covered up and turned into walking sack cloths? Excuse me while I go puke.
Mark A. says
Maybe the rest of the UK could ban Tower Hamlets residents from entering the rest if the UK.
I’ve been to Tower Hamlets. President Trump would quite accurate in calling it a s—hole.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Funny how the zombies in 28 days later were the first to be so fast in their movements.
That was in London too.
Probably came from Tower Hamlets.
Georg says
This is a case in point of the trajectory of Islam supplanting democracy in the West.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
shmoovie,savage mad devil Trump does’nt respect decent women because hé sexually assaults them despite his too ugly shape like baboon. please tell him to use the money he withdrew for palestinians as aid to settle these ladies and little girls he has been sexually assaulting for long
Champ says
The imbecile wants to take Donald Trumps inventory, where women are concerned …
If only his misogynistic prophet had done the same.
Apparently muhammad (perdition be upon him) gets a great big pass for being a pedophile and a rapist. Things that make you go, hmm …
LeftisruiningCanada says
Ibrahim, the man you regard as the most awesomest bestest most perfecterdly human ever was a little girl humping sex maniac.
It sez so in your bukz Ibrahim.
gravenimage says
What projection from Ibrahim itace muhammed! He has said that Muslims can “marry” children and rape Infidel women and use them as sex slaves. His pose as a champion of women is simply ludicrous.
JTG says
I don’t thing Trump would want to visit an area the left amd muslims have turned into a shit hole. Im ashamed to be English at times
john says
Tower hamlets, sounds nice but its a good definition for the new old phrase. ‘ mongrel Shithole’.
Infidel says
I do not want to say this knowing very well that is a matter of the past.. But what is happening to the UK is INDEED BAD KARMA payback. The British ACTIVELY COLLUDED with the Muslims of India b4 1947 and orchestrated the bitter partition of my country into India and that shit hole called Pak. And even after partition, the UK favored Pak over India IN ALL MATTERS and imported these shitties in the ton. No doubt these same Muslims are doing the same thing to the UK that they did to my country India… History or rather I say Karma repeating itself. And UNFORTUNATELY, it is the new gen innocent White Brits who have to bear the BRUNT of this pestilence..
Politicianophobia says
Geeeez, I wonder how long can the mad devil thighing master survive the later stage of syphilis. I bra him, just lay down, close your eyes, let go and you will see your 72 virgins. I hope Allah cures you before you get to touch the virgins and all the little boys.
LeftisruiningCanada says
The ban is irrelevant anyway, since the police wouldn’t let Trump visit Tower Hamlets for reasons of “Public Safety”.
This is basically an admission that the occupants of Tower Hamlets are a raging bunch of uncontrollable savages.
They wouldn’t even let Tommy Robinson take a stroll through that part of London…..
Brian Hoff says
The germany genetals plans coup against Hitler in the 1930 th but have to candle then as Hitler have than 98 % approve rateing with the germany people and with the enlisted men.In 1934 the SA became apart of the germany army and military. Coup are alway uncertainty affair as nobody know how the enlisted men act and support.
gravenimage says
Whatever is the profoundly ignorant “Brian Hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–babbling about now? There could be no coup against Hitler in 1930 because he was not in power. in fact, there was no plot by his generals to take out Hitler until the 20 July Plot in 1944.
His claims about Hitler’s approval ratings at the time of the plot are absurd, as well.
You’d think this pious Muslim would know more about his hero.