We have seen this all over the country, and in every case, the school officials insist that the school is simply teaching the tenets of Islam, not proselytizing for them. But it is noteworthy that public schools never seem to teach, say, that “Jesus is the Son of God and Savior of the world” without qualification. Whenever public schools teach about Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc., they are careful not to teach what adherents believe as established fact. But when it comes to Islam, its tenets are being taught as established fact in public schools all over the country. There should be a federal investigation of this phenomenon, but of course, there probably will not be.
“Mom Says NJ School Assignment Recruited for Islam,” by Nick Rummell, Courthouse News Service, January 24, 2018:
NEWARK, N.J. (CN) – A New Jersey middle school that caught flak last year for requiring students to watch videos on Islam was hit Tuesday with a federal complaint.
Represented by the Thomas More Law Center, parent Libby Hilsenrath says a teacher assigned her 12-year-old’s seventh-grade class at Chatham Middle School to watch two videos at home with proselytizing messages.
The first video, “Intro to Islam,” is set to a musical version of a poem that describes “Christians and Jews as ‘infidels’ and prais[es] Muhammad in gruesome detail for slaughtering them,” according to the complaint.
Calling it a “conversion video,” Hilsenrath says the 5-minute assignment was “replete with biased, chastising statements encouraging the students … to follow the Quran and become Muslim.”
“Muhammad (Peace be upon him) is the last & final Messenger of God,” one such unqualified message in the video states.
In addition to presenting the religious teachings of Islam as facts, Hilsenrath says the video includes a link where students can download “Qaseedah Burdah,” the song with references to killing infidels.
Hilsenrath notes that the second video, an explanation of the five pillars of Islam, is a cartoon where a Muslim child explains the tenants of Islam to his non-Muslim friend, then ends with both boys walking off to “learn how to pray.”
“Due to the fact that these doctrinal messages calling for conversion to Islam were included in video format with vivid images and text, they possess greater communicative impact and are more likely to be accepted by the students viewing them than information that is spoken in a classroom or even written in a book,” the complaint states.
A worksheet component of the assignment meanwhile focused on the shahada, what Hilsenrath calls “the Islamic conversion creed and prayer.”
“Clearly, seventh graders were given a sugarcoated, false depiction of Islam,” the Thomas More Law Center said in a statement. “They were not informed of the kidnappings, beheadings, slave-trading, massacres, and persecution of non-Muslims, nor of the repression of women — all done in the name of Islam.”
Richard Thompson, president and chief counsel of the law center, issued a statement as well. “After watching this video, I can’t imagine any reasonable person saying this is not Islamic indoctrination,” he said.
Questioning why the curriculum for the Middle East and North Africa unit left out other religions, the complaint notes that “there are approximately 16 million Christians in the Middle East and approximately 6.4 million Jews living in the Middle East.”
Likewise the religious beliefs of Christianity are not covered in the unit on Latin America, a region that is 88 percent Christian, and Eastern religions are not covered in the unit on Southeast Asia, according to the complaint.
“Defendants assailed the First Amendment … by forcing children to endure the promotion of Islam in their public schools, including an explicit and direct call to the children for conversion to the religion of Islam,” the complaint states.
Hilsenrath says she and another parent emailed their concerns to school officials in early 2017. Fox News invited them to appear on Tucker Carlson’s show that February. The pair joined many other parents at a packed March 2017 open meeting of the Chatham school board.
School officials defended the curriculum at the meeting, saying it met the state requirements and that it was untrue that Islam was the only religion taught to seventh graders.
But Hilsenrath says the school’s conduct betrays hostility toward Christians. When confronted about the curriculum in January 2017, according to the complaint, Chatham’s social studies department chair sent an email where he linked to what he called a “priceless” clip from TV’s “The West Wing.” In the scene, the president character mocks a fundamentalist Christian about various tenants of the Old Testament, such as its endorsement of slavery….
RichardL says
I am not sure that the video is wrong. I personally want kids to be informed about the pedo murderer and slave-owner muhammad.
gravenimage says
Don’t think that this video was presenting Islam in a critical light.
J D S says
NO NO NO NO New Jersey pubic school……muhammad was not and never could be God Jehovah’s last prophet. Muhammad was a figment of Muslims imagination.. and never proven historically to have existed but Jehovah God’s last prophet was and is
JOHN and his, or I should say, God’s last prophesies are found in the last book of the Holy Bible, REVELATIONS!
There was and is no need for another prophet…God sent many prophets to his chosen people but they failed to listen. Animal sacrifices we’re not working either so he sent his only son, Jesus to be the ultimate savior and how did that work out?He was killed,becoming the ultimate sacrifice for the sins of the whole world, yes even the muslims. One last chance for the world to listen….God gave JOHN’s Revelation….
I know there have been others who have since claimed to be prophets but………? After John is there need for another? I think not.
Bob Lesnick says
My wife and I are retired and reside in Jackson, NJ. Yesterday, a friend of mine showed me a five page test his grandson took in his 7th grade class.
The test was on Islam and was titled The Islamic World.
Some of the questions and correct answers:
Muhammad brought a new religion to Arabia.
Islam means “to submit to God.”
Shariah Law: Islamic law that judges the rightness of actions
Slaves: The Qur’an encourages Muslims to set these free
What are the five pillars of Islam
Medicine: Islam scholars made great advances in many fields.
Traveling and Trade: What helped the Islam religion to spread?
These are only a few of the questions on the test.
I am appalled that Islam is being taught in our public schools to our young impressionable children.
I can send you copies of the entire test if you so desire.
LeftisruiningCanada says
If you can upload photos of it, or PDF the test, that would be great 🙂
gravenimage says
Disgusting–but this is not uncommon in our schools.
Joe says
My son was praising Islam when he was in high school. I told him that the Koran says to hate people. The root word or religion is “relate” which is about the opposite of hate. He said that I was a bigot. I told him that as a person, I like all people including bigots. In addition, the Koran is on line, and we looked at the first 12 pages. I think it said to hate other people about 15 times in those 12 pages. That made him wonder about Islam and school.
LR says
“If you can upload photos of it, or PDF the test, that would be great!”
Yes…I would love to have a copy too….
WPM says
As usual Islam get a free pass ,the schools are trying to play it as a cultural political practice as it is .It is also a religion would the schools be in trouble if they showed Nazi propaganda films from the 1920s and 1930s Nazism as a good movement ,yes they would. The is the problem with Islam it slides back and forth being portrayed as a culture political movement to a religion what ever will be its agenda in the MSM .What if the children viewing this propaganda film the teacher assigned went Robert Spencer on it and wrote a report castrating the film as it is a propaganda piece using direct quotes from the Koran to show Islam ugly violent true side? Would the teacher be willing to discuss the child,s report openly or would she arrange a meeting with the child, parents and the principal calling the parents racist for raising a child who can us logic and reasoning to see propaganda when she see it.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
It used to be that a professional would instinctively try to cover both sides of a story. Not anymore. Now there is a polemic that makes one-sidedeness ok. It’s alright to elide facts, especially those that are offensive and even hateful.
In this case we have the school teachers, who are as much inculctators as they are teachers. Look at the test scores. But they’ve done a great job getting kids in the right frame of mind to like socialism, reverse-racism and globalism. Plus, the Democrats have a solid core base of contributors. Incluclate, contribute, work at the polls on election day. It all works.
What a perfect set up for Islam.
mgoldberg says
The superintendent should be examined and fired as well as the head of the social studies dept, and of course, non of this will happen. How can this go unpunished and unexamined for the perfidy that it truly is…
WPM says
Islam greatest weapon is not bullets ,knives ,bombs ,it is propaganda pushed by feel good libtards in the West. Who think people all people will love you if you give in to everything they want. Islam is the spoiled child of religions of the world it never has enough power, over all people. It will not be satisfied with ruling just it own people ,its own lands ,it is writing into its own book the Koran that it must run the whole world all people with its” master slave ” mentality as per Sharia law. The truth scares the liberals of the Western world ,it is because we have hard choices to make . We have to except the truth that some people because of their personal beliefs even though they are not from the Western World are fundamentally evil. That the Western Ways of the golden rule, rules of law ,equal rights for all , are all cancel out by Islam and Shiria law .The truth is too ugly for them to look at ,because it undermines the lefts beliefs that evil only comes from Western governments ,religions ,culture .The left refuses to accept that if they did not live a Western style form of government and culture practices majority of them would be serfs ,slaves or dead.
JawsV says
The reporter apparently doesn’t know the difference between “tenants” and “tenets.”
Linda says
I do believe the reporter does know the difference.
JawsV says
I don’t think so.
gravenimage says
Why would he use “tenants” for “tenets” if he knew the difference?
Having a journalist make such a basic mistake is itself an indictment of our educational system–not as bad as this vicious Da’wa, though.
JawsV says
Exactly.
R Russell says
Well he is the last final messenger of the false God Allah.
The final messenger of YHWH, is YHWH the Son, known as Jesus, the one who eternally proceeds from his Father.
The distinction needs to be made.
Terry Gain says
I think Islam should be taught in all public schools, so long as the curriculum is written by Robert Spencer, David Wood, Bill Warner and Ayan Hirsi Ali. It may be necessary for the survival of America as a free society for all children to learn the truth about this evil ideology.
Tjhawk says
I agree. No sense hiding it from the kids. Make sure they know the real story.
Mohammed ( 20% be upon him )
Alright boys and girls, when mohammeds raiders sacked a village, how much of the booty did mohammed get? 1/5? That’s Right!! Could somebody convert that to decimal form? 20% ? Very Good!!
After a good raid, there were 80 young women available for sex slavery. How many would be for mohammed, and how many would be left to split among the men?
This raiding party had 40 men. How many equal sized villages would they need to raid for each man to have 3 sex slaves. Don’t forget to subtract mohammeds 20% in your calculation.
JawsV says
Terry, don’t leave out Nonie Darwish, Brigitte Gabriel and Wafa Sultan.
Frank Anderson says
J.V. I agree all that both of you named are worthy of all the respect we can afford. There are so many, thank God, to help us see what others do not want us to see. Listing any of them assures that some will be missed. That’s when the “catch-all” comes in handy to include all who should have been mentioned but weren’t.
A_German says
Or Germany’s very own Michael Stürzenberger.
His article are brilliant. They just have to be translated. English
LeftisruiningCanada says
Agreed. That’d the only safe way to teach islam.
Frank Anderson says
Left. . ., considering the snowflake, milk-toast crap that is being taught in US public schools instead of the truth, why would you expect the liberal dominated public schools to teach anything that supports personal freedom and independence? Far better that this be taught at home so that both parents and children know of the evil we confront, and in the churches and other religious congregations, because those are the most threatened by islam. “Silence is consent” and denial. Denial can get you killed or enslaved.
LeftisruiningCanada says
You’ll get no arguments about any of your suggestions there, from me 🙂
My kids haven’t been near a Canadian State run school, and hopefully they will never be forced to do so.
gravenimage says
I agree. But it is better that children learn nothing about Islam than that they be exposed to this lauding of that vicious creed.
JawsV says
Oh, for the halcyon pre-9/11 decades when I knew nothing about Islam and never thought about Muslims. All of my formal education through graduate school was Islam/Muslim/Jihad-free! Oh, the nostalgia!
LR says
I think Islam should be taught in all public schools, so long as the curriculum is written by Robert Spencer, David Wood, Bill Warner and Ayan Hirsi Ali. It may be necessary for the survival of America as a free society for all children to learn the truth about this evil ideology.
I totally think we should be teaching kids ‘comparative religion’. Cultures are mixing and ‘clashing’…I would invite ’em all to come and talk and debate… a Muslim and an ex-Muslim to come and have a debate,..Or, have a Muslim and Christian debate…Atheist and Christian etc…
Learning islam says
• King Solomon, David etc were 1500 years before MO, and Jesus had his disciples taught marriage to 1 woman there was no excuse for Mo to continue in traditions that had been stopped for 600 years… and there are hundreds of examples of Mo being a horn-dog ahead of any spiritual concerns….
• why do you Muslim apologists ALWAYS refer back to the Old Testament when trying to defend Muhammad, rather than to Jesus? After all, Islam is supposed to be the perfection of both Judaism and Christianity. Is it perhaps because Jesus never robbed, raped, enslaved, persecuted, murdered or assassinated anyone? That He was not a pedophile, necrophile, adulterer or rampaging sexaholic? How can Islam be the ‘perfection” of the religion that went before it, if Muhammad’s character and teachings were so ethically inferior to those of Christ? How long, O Muslims, will you wander about in self-imposed blindness?
• Sexual Impotence: mo used to complain to allah about his impotency so allah sent Gabriel with some celestial food that give mo “ the sexsual potency of 40 men – Al Jamii al-Kabir, Al Suyuti, p. 2672#906
• Sexual Prowess? Narrated Aisha: “Magic was worked on allah’s apostle so that he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not”
Hadith Bukhari book 7 volume 071 haddith 660
an interesting narrative (contained in Umdat al-Qari and Faid al-Qabir). Reportedly, Allah sent Gabriel with some sort of celestial food (called al-kofid) to Muhammad, commanding the latter to “Eat!”—identical to when Gabriel came to Muhammad saying “Read!” (i.e., iqra, the word for Koran). The report goes on to quote Muhammad saying that the food given to him “gave me the sexual potency of 40 heavenly men.”
from the Sunan of al-Tirmidhi, where it says that the “heavenly man” has the sexual potency of 100 mortal men.
“So, doing the math, 40×100, we can conclude that Muhammad, whenever he ate his heavenly aphrodisiac, had the sexual potency of 4000 men? Really, O umma, is this the claim to fame of your prophet—that he was a raving sex maniac?” Then, less seriously, “Imagine the surprise when Westerners find out that, once again, it was Muhammad who first discovered Viagra!”
• how for 1400 years barriers have been erected around Muhammad so no one—Muslim or infidel—could critique his life: “But the time has come; the barrier is broken
• stern WARNING! FOR ADULTS ONLY! THIS COMMENT CONTAINS UPSETTING AND SHAMEFUL FACTS ABOUT MOHAMMED’S BIZARRE SEXUAL BEHAVIOR. VIEWER DISCRETION ADVISED! VIEWER IS REQUESTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT NONE OF THESE DEPRAVED AND CRIMINAL ACTS ARE SEEN AS CRIMES TO MUSLIMS, EXCEPT IF THEY ARE COMMITTED BY SOMEONE ELSE. ———————————————————————————————————————-
• Here’s just a few examples from Islam’s own sacred authorities which the cowardly media and politically correct public schools and churches refuse to tell us about of the perverse sexual activity of “Islam’s perfect man.
The truth about Mohammed’s bizarre sex life is plain to see and easily found on the pages of Islam’s own recognized authorities. The best estimate based only on Islam’s own sources has Mohammed engaging in sexual relations with at least 66 women. He had 11 – 13 wives at one time and sexually exploited slaves, concubines and children. a list of all the women—66 are known—to have had sexual relations with Muhammad.
according to Sirat Al-Halabi, Muhammad can have a woman no matter what, even against her will; and if Muhammad desired a married woman, her husband would have had to divorce her. According to Ibn Sa’ad, who wrote another authoritative biographical account of Muhammad, “The prophet did not die till all women were permitted him” (see Kitab Al Tabaqat Al Kubra, v.8, 194).
Civilized people consider that to be the behavior of a criminal. Today he would be arrested, convicted, imprisoned and possibly executed. He would definitely be registered as a sex offender.Yet, muslims continue to regard Mohammad with great respect as their prophet.
• [libertyORdeath
Unfortunately there are copious examples of Muslims committing the same kinds of sexual crimes in our time and in our countries with no legal or other consequences. And why wouldn’t they? Their religion, prophet and community have sanctioned the use of women as objects for 1400 years and now the “liberal” West has given them license to do the same under the guise of “religious freedom”.
I honestly wouldn’t have believed that western feminists would come to the point of not only looking the other way when it comes to misogyny and sexual abuse but actually supporting and defending it. I am seriously worried for the future generations if this trend continues.]
Learning islam says
“What prophet is this you follow?!” “Where is his morality? This is the man that Muslims follow slavishly? Use your minds!”
The question of morality and how it is—or should be—one of the hallmarks of “prophethood.” At the start, the focal question: “Was Muhammad the prophet a moral man—the most upright man, worthy of being emulated.
an Ibn Taymiyya quote, which evaluated the signs of prophethood. Taymiyya asserted that there are many false-prophets, such as Musailima “the Liar,” a contemporary of Muhammad. Taymiyya concluded that many of these so-called prophets are, in fact, “possessed,” and that the only way to determine the authenticity of any prophet is by examining his biography (sira) and deeds, and see if he be found worthy of the title.
Being that this is the first of several episodes devoted to examining the concepts of morality and prophethood (with the notion that the former reinforces the latter), the theme for this particular episode was “purity” (tahara): “Was Muhammad a ‘pure’ man?”—in this context, a question concerning his sexual mores (or lack thereof).
warning: “for adults only!
“Is this the prophet I follow?” as he delineated some of Muhammad’s sexual habits.
First, from the Koran, read verses unequivocally stating that Muhammad is the paragon of all virtue and morality, such as “And most surely you [Muhammad] conform (yourself) to sublime morality [68: 4].”
• a hadith depicting Muhammad lying next to a dead woman in her grave, as well as pointing to hadith categories called “intercourse with a dead woman,”
Muhammad had sex with a dead Aunt fatima (ali’s mother ).
In a democratic system ALLAH is the president and muhammad is the prime minister. Allah was the slave of muhammad. Muhammad made sex with his dead aunty fatima (ali’s mother ). How a man can do this? Satan was born in the form of muhammad.
• ” The Muslim legal text, al-Sharwani’s Hawashi, confirms that sex with a dead woman is not sinful or wrong according to Islamic law. This law is based on the example set by Muhammad. According to the hadith, Muhammad had sex with a dead woman before she was put in the grave.
• The gravediggers were so embarrassed that they proceeded to bury the woman’s corpse and the prophet with dirt, exclaiming, “O Prophet, we see you do a thing you never did with anyone else.” Muhammad answered: “I have dressed her in my shirt so that she may be dressed in heavenly robes, and I have farewell intercourse with her in her grave so that the torments of the grave may be alleviated from her.” Recently a new law was proposed in the Muslim Brotherhood dominated Egyptian parliament. It would allow for “farewell intercourse” with a wife’s dead body. Obviously Muslims know very well about this demented practice by Mohammed. Postmortem sex is apparently a traditional value within Islam. Civilized people call it necrophilia and it’s a criminal act. for whom he had a sick and unhealthy attraction to her.
• Look also Sahih Muslim 34424 (the same case of sex with dead aunt) Commentary of Imam Al-Nawawi on the Hadith Sahih Muslim: Book 003, Number 0684
• Muhammad having sex with his dead Aunt in the Grave. [“Kanz Al Umal” (The Treasure of the Workers, by Ali Ibn Husam Aldin, commonly known as Al-Mutaki Al-Hindi. He based his book on the hadiths and sayings listed in “Al-Jami Al-Saghir,” written by Jalal ul-Din Al-Suyuti.) “‘I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I slept with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib’… The prophet was referring to Fatima , the mother of Ali. “The Arabic word used here for slept is “Id’tajat,” and literally means “lay down” with her. It is often used to mean, “Lay down to have sex.” then most any debased activity is halal.
• an account portraying how the prophet sexually exploited a “retarded” woman. According to 23 sources (e.g., Sahih Muslim vol.4, p.1812) a feeble-minded woman came up to Muhammad saying, “O prophet of Allah! I have something for you.” He clandestinely met her out back and took this “something” from her.
“I fear now that many believers will want to implement this sunna—don’t do it, guys, this is just to illustrate…. Listen you Muslims: don’t hate me for revealing all this to you; don’t lie in wait to kill me. I am merely revealing what islamic books contain. And, as always, we humbly await the great sheikhs and ulema to address these issues and show us where we went wrong.”
How well do you know islam? you only know what clerics teach you.. you are not encouraged to ask questions.. if the hadiths are unreliable, then we have to disbelieve muhammad’s supposed miracles , the five pillars of Islam, shahida which are mentioned in them… They have been an accepted part of tradition and did not become controversial until social mores began to change with the modern age.
what is the historical context behind muhammads pedophilia?
if he was a prophet, he would have forseen that his actions would be judged as a crime in the future.
• Muhammad’s marriage to 6 year old Aisha. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234 and 236).
Aisha is the child bride of Mohammed. He married her when she was only six and immediately began the practice of pleasuring himself between her thighs. Muslims practice pedophilia on the model of the “Prophet” Muhammed.
• Mohammad even proclaimed his affections and intentions of marriage towards little girls, often as young as 2-3 years old. Civilized people call this pedophilia- a wicked, criminal act.
one from the Musnad of Ahmad bin Hanbal, which records Muhammad seeing a 2-3 year old girl in her mother’s arms. Muhammad was so “impressed” by her that he said, “By Allah, if this girl reaches marrying age and I am still alive, I will surely marry her.”
Another hadith goes on to say that Muhammad ended up dying before this particular girl reached marriage age, Poor prophet! He missed one!”
keep this last hadith in mind, for “context,” another hadith from theSunan of Bin Said, which records Muhammad saying “I hugged so-and-so when she was a child and found that I greatly desired her.”
Learning islam says
“What prophet is this you follow?!” “Where is his morality? This is the man that Muslims follow slavishly? Use your minds
• Aisha cleans Muhammad’s semen stains. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229-233),
• Muhammad fondling Aisha during her ‘Menses’. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 298-300), (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 1, Number 0270)
• Mohammed’s sexual behavior also demonstrated transvestite tendencies.
There are 32 different references of Mohammad lying in bed dressed in women’s clothing. In a hadith from Sahih Bukhari (2/911), Mohammad is recorded saying, “Revelations never come to me when I’m dressed in women’s clothing-except when I’m dressed in Aisha’s,” implying that it was something of a habit for the prophet to dress in female clothing.
• Muhammad liked to have intercourse with Aisha and his other wives when they were menstruating. (Sahih Muslim, Book 003, Number 0577-0579)
• Muhammad loved to recite the Quran when his wives were in Menses while lying between their legs! (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 296), (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 639)
• Muhammad exhibited homosexual tendencies?”
Mohammed’s sexual behavior demonstrated homosexual tendencies.
The anecdote revolved around a hadith that, while some ulema say is “weak,” is, nonetheless present in 44 Islamic books—including some highly respected collections, such as Sunan Bayhaqi and Al Halabi.
According to this hadith, a man named Zahir, who used to declare that “the prophet loves me,” said that one day Muhammad crept unawares behind him and put him in a bear-hug. Zahir, alarmed, yelled, “Get off me!” After turning his head and discovering that it was Muhammad, he stopped struggling and proceeded to “push his back into the prophet’s chest—prayers and blessings upon him.”
Another curious hadith contained in Sunan Bayhaqi and which traces to Sunan Abu Dawud (one of the six canonical hadith collections), has Muhammad lifting up his shirt for a man who proceeded to kiss his entire torso, “from his bellybutton to his armpits.”
“Imagine if the sheikh of Al Azhar [nearest Muslim equivalent to the pope] went around lifting his shirt for men to kiss his torso” (he proceeded to make smacking kissing noises, for effect).
• No less than 20 Islamic sources-such as the hadiths of Ahmad bin Hanbal-relay that Mohammad used to suck on the tongues of boys and girls, and even his own daughter. Along with sucking her tongue, Mohammad would also nuzzle his face in his own daughter’s bosom every night before going to sleep.
from various sources, such as a hadith relayed by Abu Hurreira (deemed an extremely reliable narrator), where Muhammad sucked on the tongues of his cousin (and future caliph) Ali’s two boys, Hassan and Hussein—they of revered Shia memory.
a hadith of Muhammad sucking on the tongue of his own daughter, Fatima.
the Arabic word for “suck” (muss) cannot, as some apologists insist, mean anything but “suck.”
“this is the same word used when discussing Muhammad’s ‘activities’ with his wives, especially his beloved child-bride, Aisha.”
“Dear lady, imagine, for a moment, coming home to find your husband sucking on your daughter’s tongue? What would you do? It’s even worse: it’s your prophet—the most “morally upright” man, a man to be emulated by the world! A man who on record used to go around sucking the tongues of his wives, his daughters, and young boys: Are these the activities of the man described in the Koran as being the pinnacle of moral perfection?”
“Muhammad would not sleep until he kissed his daughter Fatima and nuzzled his face in her bosom Dear lady! what would you say to your husband sleeping with his face in your daughter’s breast—is that the height of morality?!”
Commentaries in the Tafsir of al-Qurtubi—an authoritative exegesis in Islam.
one anecdote where Aisha said that, one day, while Muhammad was lying naked in bed, Zaid came knocking; Muhammad, without getting dressed, opened the door and “hugged and kissed him”—in the nude. Elsewhere, Qurtubi concludes that, “the prophet—prayers and blessings upon him—was constantly preoccupied with women.”
Muslims: “So this is your prophet—the most morally upright man? Instead of being preoccupied with, say, prayer or good deeds, he was preoccupied with women?”
from more sources, such as Sunan al-Nisa’i, wherein Muhammad used to in a single night “visit” all his women, without washing in between.: “Why even record such obscene and embarrassing things?”
Perhaps most entertaining, an anecdote recorded in Ibn Kathir’s al-Bidaya we al-Nihaya. Here is a translation for this lengthy account:
After conquering the Jews of Khaybar, and plundering their belongings, among other things, a donkey fell into the lot of the prophet, who proceeded to ask the donkey: “What is your name?”
The donkey answered, “Yazid Ibn Shihab. Allah had brought forth from my ancestry 60 donkeys, none of whom were ridden on except by prophets. None of the descendants of my grandfather remain but me, and none of the prophets remain but you and I expected you to ride me. Before you, I belonged to a Jewish man, whom I caused to stumble and fall frequently so he used to kick my stomach and beat my back.”
, “a taqiyya-practicing donkey!” “The prophet – may Allah’s prayers and peace be upon him – said to him, ‘I will call you Ya’foor. O Ya’foor!’ Ya’foor replied, ‘I obey.’ The prophet asked, ‘Do you lust after females?’ The donkey replied, ‘No!’”
“Even the donkey blushed for shame concerning your prophet’s over-sexed inquiries! Here we have what is supposed to be a miracle—a talking donkey; and of all things to communicate to this animal, your prophet’s most urgent question was whether the donkey lusts after females?”
Learning islam says
• from Sahih Bukhari (5/2012),
Mohammad is on record in Faid al-Qabit (3/371) saying
“My greatest loves are women and perfume: the hungry is satisfied after eating, but I never have enough of women.” Another hadith: “I can hold back from food and drink-but not from women.” Finally, a hadith in al-Siyuti (6/395) quotes Mohammad as saying “In heaven, Mary mother of Jesus, will be one of my wives.” Civilized people call this insatiable lust sexual addiction. Mohammed is a whoremonger, who tried to turn even heaven into a brothel. Shame on Muslims & the media for condoning the actions of a man who has brought more misery to mankind, and especially women, than any other man since Adam. ——————————————————————————— REFERENCES TO PROPHET MOHAMMED’S CRIMES. ———————————————————————————
• Muhammad married his adopted Son’s wife called ‘Zaynab’ after lusting for her and then banned Adoption in Islam. (Surah 33:37, Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 305, Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3330, Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 516,The History of Al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam, translated by Michael Fishbein, 1997], Volume VIII, pp. 2-3)
• Muhammad and the Quran sanctioned sex with your wives and ‘married’ slave girls. (Surah 70:22-30, 23:5,6, 4:24, 33:50),
• Muhammad speaks of sex with Slave Girls. (Sahih Bukhari – Volume 3, #432, Volume 9, #506, Volume 5, #637, Sahih Muslim, Volume 2, #3371) ”
• Muhammad disagreed with ‘coitus interruptus’ with slave girls – he supported RAPE!.”
• Muhammad forces a 17 yr old Jewish girl called Safiyyah to marry him and rapes her on the same day her husband and family are killed in the battle of Khaibar. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367). “Al Tabari reported in his (‘The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam’, Translated by Michael Fishbein) that even some of Muhammad’s wives and companions were shocked that he forced Safiyyah to marry him after beheading her husband, brother and father.”
• A SEXUAL PREDATOR and all early Mohammedans realized it.
Layla clapped Mohammed’s shoulder from behind and asked him to marry her. Mohammed accepted. Layla’s people said, “’What a bad thing you have done! You are a self-respecting woman, but the
Prophet is a WOMANIZER. Seek an annulment from him.’ She went back to the Prophet and asked him to revoke the marriage and he complied with [her request].” al-Tabari vol.9 p.139
• Narrated Aisha: The prophet (pbuh) did not die until all women were lawful to him. – Al Tabaquat Al Kobra by Ibn Saad, part 8
Note: ‘all women’ includes married women. He was undeniably a predator. Is that honorable? Is that a man of god? A predator?
• The evil self-proclaimed prophet, Muhammad, LIVED and DIED with the medical condition known today as PRIAPISM.
Simply put, because his penis was erect all the time, it caused him pain, and in order to remove the pain, he had to copulate, and copulate he did, with anyone and with anything, mostly animals.
Proof of his priapism is the scene on his death bed. “Muhammad’s Death Erection Abu al-Fida (1273 – 1331 AD) was a Muslim geographer and historian. He relates that Prophet Muhammad suffered from a death erection.
Ali ibn Abi Ṭalib, the fourth Rightly-guided Caliph of Islam (and also Muhammad’s son-in-law and cousin) washed his body after his death, and had exclaimed, “O prophet, thy penis is erect unto the sky!” Do we know of any other prophet or important man, who started a following, who penis was still living when the rest of him died? He was a sexual pervert with a voracious sexual appetite! Muhammad was unique, because his Allah, the same Allah in the Koran, was his nothing more than his own Penis.
the sort of foul language Muhammad — the “greatest example”
the sort of despicable language Muhammad used—In fact, your prophet said one of the most obscene Arabic words—the equivalent of the ‘f-word’ [google the “f-word” to understand what he was talking about]. ”
appears in 67 books, including Sahih Bukhari, the text containing this word, “inkat-ha” — or, in context, Muhammad asking a man about a woman if he “f***** her” —
What would you Muslims do if the Sheikh of al Azhar went around using such language? Worse — it’s your prophet, the ‘greatest creation.’”
According to Qaid al-Qadir (v.1, p.381), Muhammad told Muslims to retort to uppity infidels by saying things like —Go bite on your mother’s clitoris!” or, according to Zad al-Mi’ad (v.3, p305), “Go bite on your dad’s penis!”
“O prophet of Allah…prophet of Allah….Would that you would’ve heeded your lord Jesus’ counsel: ‘The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks’ (Luke 6:45).”
from Sahih Bukhari (5/2012), an account where Muhammad went into the house of a young woman named Umaima bint Nua’m and commanded her to “Give yourself to me!” The woman responded, “Shall a queen give herself to the rabble?” Shaking his fist, Muhammad threatened her, and then sent her off to her parents.
“You see, people, even back then, in those dark ages, there were still people who had principles, who did not give way to threats and coercion. However, the real question here is, why was Muhammad contradicting the commandments of his own Koran—”if a believing woman gives herself to the prophet” (33:50)—trying to coerce this young lady?”
no less than 34 books, including the Tafsir of al-Qurtubi and Sahih Muslim, record that Muhammad used to “fondle”——”kiss and have sex while fasting, though he forbade others from doing so.”prophet has special dispensations:
“Come on man! Couldn’t you find another one of your 66 women? It just had to be the one menstruating?”
“But seriously, people: are you not ashamed of these things? I know I am—just mentioning them. And this is your ‘prophet’—the ‘exemplary man’?”
a hadith, narrated by Aisha, and contained in the canonical six, wherein the prophet’s young wife recounted how, whenever she was menstruating, if the prophet “wanted her,” he used to “command” her to have sex with him—”Commanded! This is rape! Who is this character you are following?”
from a number of other hadiths, all demonstrative of Muhammad’s sexual proclivities toward menstruating women—which the Koran forbids—adding, “People, if this is how the ‘prophet of God’ behaves, what can we expect from the average man?”
“Well, could other men behave this way?”
“Sure, the prophet was always generous to his followers, giving them ways out. According to eight hadith compilations, Ibn Abbas relayed that Muhammad said if a man cannot help himself and copulates with his menstruating wife, all he has to do is pay one dinar in atonement; if he sleeps with her towards the end of her cycle, when she isn’t bleeding as much, he need only pay half a dinar—a discount!” [saying “discount” in English].
“As you pointed out, since Muhammad had so many women, why did he even feel the need to resort to the ones that were menstruating?”
. The simple reason, my friend, is that Muhammad used to like smelling”—here he went sniff, sniff—”menstruation blood.” He then quoted from al-Siyuti, where Aisha relayed that Muhammad said to her “Come here,” to which she replied, “But I am menstruating, O prophet of God.” So he said “Expose your thighs”; she did so and “he proceeded to lay his cheek and chest on her thighs.”
How can such perverse behavior come from a prophet—the ‘greatest role model’?”
He then read a Sahih Bukhari hadith (v.6, p.2744) relayed by Aisha where she said that, while menstruating, the prophet used to lay his head on her thighs and recite the Koran. “While reciting the Koran!!”
gravenimage says
Good posts, Learning Islam.
Frank Anderson says
Please remember the last show made by E.D. Hill before she left Fox, Islam, Terror in its Own Words. In the 40 or so minutes was included video of a 3 year old dressed up as a suicide bomber in Gaza or the West Bank. There was also a cartoon from PLO/Hamas praising suicide bombers. Now the same thing is here. Why? Free speech does not include advocacy of crime or murder.
Learning islam says
examining Muhammad’s faithlessness towards his wives (though one would have thought the plural renders the notion of faithfulness moot), his sexually exploitative behavior, and his reliance on very obscene language.
The well-known story where the prophet betrayed his wife Hafsa with a slave-girl
In short, after sending Hafsa to visit her father, the latter, halfway there, realized that it was “her day”—that is, the day when, of all his wives, Muhammad would visit her for “conjugal relations.” She hurried back “She knew him well: if she wasn’t there on her day, he would go crazy and grab the first female passing by!”).
In fact, Hafsa caught Muhammad with a slave-girl on the former’s bed. Muhammad quickly evicted the slave-girl and told Hafsa that if she kept this between them, he would henceforth refrain from the slave-girl.
To no avail: Hafsa gabbed and soon all of Muhammad’s wives revolted against his incessant philandering; “When things got critical, Muhammad decided to drop a ‘new revelation’ on them; so he threw surat al-tahrim (66: 1-11) at them, wherein Allah supposedly chastises Muhammad for trying to please his wives by not sleeping around, threatening the wives to get in line lest the prophet divorce them—indeed, lest they all go to hell.”
“Imagine, dear lady, if your husband asked you to go on errand and then you return before your time only to find him in bed with another woman? What sort of man would that make him in your eyes? Yet it’s worse—it’s your prophet, whom you all extol as the most perfect human, to be slavishly emulated!”
“clever little Aisha knew him [Muhammad] well”: whenever such verses were revealed rescuing Muhammad, Aisha would often observe that “Verily, your lord [Allah] is ever quick to fulfill your whims and desires (e.g., al-Siyuti v.6, p.629).
“that many believers will want to implement this sunnah
Muhammad forbade his ten widows from remarrying, even making sure that this “divine” order was forever preserved in the eternal word of Allah – Quran (33:53). To add insult to injury, they were all summarily disinherited from Muhammad’s estate by his successor (courtesy of another divine order “given” to Abu Bakr from Allah).
it’s funny that all his revelations are always for his benefits: God say I have to marry Zaid’s wife so next future people will not afraid to take their in law’s wife, marry Aisha has to be a new revelation from God, cover his wife face because afraid that people more younger has desire for his wife & there is a new revelation for this, kiss a young boy for a purposed that only pedophile know ?,
Muhammad passed down revelations from Allah that clearly condoned sleeping with underage girls, even by the standard of puberty. Quran (65:4) relates rules for divorce, one of them establishing a waiting period of three months to determine that the woman is not pregnant. But the same rule applies to “those too who have not had their courses,” meaning girls who have not begun to menstruate. (In our opinion, this would have been a great time for Allah to have said something else instead like, “a real man is one who marries an actual, grown woman”… but that’s just us).
Thanks to Muhammad’s extremely poor judgment (at best) and explicit approval of pedophilia, sex with children became deeply ingrained in the Islamic culture.
Learning islam says
Muhammad fantasized about baby Aisha before soliciting her from her father.
Sahih Muslim, Book 031, Number 5977:
‘A’isha reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) having said: I saw you in a dream for three nights when an angel brought you to me in a silk cloth and he said: Here is your wife, and when I removed (the cloth) from your face, lo, it was yourself, so I said: If this is from Allah, let Him carry it out.
Magic man in the sky told him to do it. If it’s good enough for him, dadgummit, it’s good enough for Mo! Now a lot of Muslim apologists say stuff like, “Oh, he didn’t really want to marry her at that age, but God told him to do it for political reasons. He really needed Aisha’s father to convert to Islam.”
Sahih Bukhari 9.140
Narrated ‘Aisha:
Allah’s apostle said to me, “you were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, ‘uncover (her),’ and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), ‘if this is from Allah, then it must happen.
Bullshit.
First off, if God really needed Abu Bakr to convert, why didn’t he just *poof* him into a Muslim? And secondly, that’s God’s big plan to bring Abu Bakr to the Muslim side? .
A marriage proposal for his baby girl is supposed to convert the man to Islam? I just don’t see it happening.
Here’s a little more about Abu Bakr that might help clear: he was Mohammed and Khadija’s neighbor. Abu Bakr and Mo were good friends for years, and in fact, he was one of the very first converts to Islam. He was also the first convert who was not a member of Mo’s immediate family. Abu Bakr was one of the first to buy in to the horse manure Mohammed was selling.
He tried to talk one of his wives into converting to Islam, and divorced her when she refused. His other wife, Aisha’s mother, converted to Islam. Gee, could the looming threat of a divorce have anything to do with that?
So there you go. That’s the man who handed over his little girl to a man nearly 9 times her age. He was convinced that Mohammed was a man of God, and whatever God says goes unless you want to burn in hell. Sound familiar?
Anyway, Aisha is considered to be Mohammed’s favorite wife. (The others probably just weren’t young enough.) If you’re interested in a pretty detailed and interesting story about how Mohammed received his revelations, check out Sahih Muslim, Book 004, Number 2127. It’s waaaaay too long to copy and paste here, but I’ll break it down for you real quick:
Muhammad would thigh( also known as “child molestation” in the West) with baby Aisha – Muhammad’s molestation of baby Aisha
The permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs (religious decrees) reviewed the question presented to the grand mufti Abu Abdullah Muhammad al-Shemary, the question forwarded to the committee by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/8/1421 (Islamic calendar).
After the committee studied the issue, they gave the following reply:
As for the prophet, peace and prayer of Allah be upon him, thighing his fiancée Aisha. She was six years of age and he could not have intercourse with her due to her small age. That is why [the prophet] peace and prayer of Allah be upon him placed his [male] member between her thighs and massaged it softly, as the apostle of Allah had control of his [male] member not like other believers..
Aisha was not the only baby girl Muhammad fantasized about
In the classic history, Sirat Rasul Allah (The Life of Muhammad) by Ibn Ishaq, there is an account in which Muhammad expressed a marital interest in a crawling baby. This event seems to have occurred around the time of the battle of of Badr, when he was about 55 years old. He had married Aisha two years earlier, when he was 53 years of age.
(Suhayli, ii. 79: in the Riwaya of Yunus i. I. Recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu’lfadl) when she was a baby crawling before him and said, ‘if she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.’ but he died before she grew up and sufyan b. Al-aswad b. ‘Abdu’l-asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him rizq and lubab… [Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad, Karachi, p. 311]
Muhammad saw Um Habiba the daughter of Abbas while she was fatim (age of nursing) and he said, “if she grows up while I am still alive, I will marry her.” (Musnad Ahmad, number 25636)
Allah promotes pedophilia
Quran 65.4 “and those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the ‘iddah (prescribed divorce period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. They are still immature) their ‘iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death] . And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their ‘iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens) (give birth) and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to him, he will make his matter easy for him.”
Sura (65:4) lays down rules for divorce and sets the prescribed period for divorce. It clearly says, Muslim men can marry (and divorce) little girls who have not yet reached menstruation age. This means that Muslim men were allowed to marry baby girls. This is the eternal word of god. This is an eternal law of Allah. All Muslims must believe in this teaching. Otherwise, they are no longer Muslims but apostates of Islam.
Allah incites Muslim Jihadists to war for acquiring sex-slaves as booty
“All married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.” 4:24
You can have sex with slaves women captured in war (with whom you may rape or do whatever you like).
Muhammad established an appalling precedent for abuse of young girls which is continued to be nurtured by the Muslim faithful. For example, Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran gave a fatwa about Quran 65.4:
“A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man’s four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl’s sister.”
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Muhammad’s father in law, Umar bin Khattab, the second rightly guided khalifa, married even a younger child, Umm Kulthum. Umm Khultum was about 4-5 years old when she was married. Umar was certainly not doing wrong according to Islam, Muhammad once said that even the devil would step aside when he met Umar on an alley. Islam is indeed the true religion for pedophiles, rapists, sadistics etc . Today’s muslim society is like the era of what 1400 years before. , killing of non-muslims , sharias law, beheading and so on.
Learning islam says
Q: Who is muhammad?
A: Prophet of islam
Q: Was he a pedophile?
A: No
Q: How old was aisha when he had sex with her?
A: 9 years old
Q: Was muhammad a mass murderer?
A: No
Q: How many Jewish men did he behead?
A: 600
Q: Was muhammad a thief?
A: No
Q: Did he order looting meccan caravans?
A: Yes
Q: Did muhammad advise to eat halal food?
A: Yes
Q: Who advised his followers to drink camel urine?
A: muhammad
Q: Was muhammad a pagan?
A: No
Q: What rituals are similar between the pagans and the mouselims?
A: Kissing a black rock, circling a pagan temple, full moon-sightings to break your fast
Q: Was muhammad a cuckold?
A: No
Q: Who instructed his wife to breastfeed grown men?
A: muhammad
Q: Was a muhammad a necrophile?
A: No
Q: Who had sex with his dead aunt’s corpse?
A: muhammad
Q: Who sat down and peed like a woman?
A: muhammad
Q: Did muhammad have a vagina?
A: no
Q: what is the black rock in mecca shaped like?
A: vagina
Q: Was muhammad an adulterer?
A: No
Q: What does surah 4:24 say?
A: Sex with married women is prohibited except with those slaves who already have husbands
Q: Did muhammad utter the satanic verses?
A: No
Q: What does surah 22 verse 52 say?
A: satan corrupted muhammad’s words and allah had to later correct them by proofreading the quran!
fear, ignorance, deceit, violence, and hate are the real five pillars of Islam.
the first biography of Muhammad, by the devout muslim Ibn Ishaq:
Muhammad orders his son-in-law Ali, to behead Al-Nadr bin al-Harith on page 136.
Muhammad says that those who follow him will be given paradise; those who refuse will be slaughtered and sent to hell on page 222
Muhammad affirms that those who do not follow him will be slaughtered
On page 222 (326 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad:
Abu jahl said to them: “Muhammad alleges that if you follow him you will be kings of the Arabs and the Persians. Then after death you will be raised to gardens like those of the Jordan. But if you do not follow him you will be slaughtered, and when you are raised from the dead you will be burned in the fire of hell.” The apostle [Muhammad] came out to them with a handful of dust saying: “I do say that.”
Muhammad approves the stabbing of Uqba bin Abu Muayt on page 308.
Muhammad arranges the beheading of Kab bin al-Ashraf on page 364-9.
Muhammad personally beheads over 600 Jewish prisoners of war on page 464
Muhammad orders the torturing of treasurer of Khaybar tribe, Kinana on page 515
Islamic source texts say that Muhammad ordered the torture of a man in order to get hold of a treasure. We learn of that in the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, pages 511-517 (758-766 in the Arabic). https://archive.org/stream/TheLifeOfMohammedGuillaume/The_Life_Of_Mohammed_Guillaume#page/n279/mode/1up
The same pages in that earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad also tell us that after the torture, Muhammad had the man beheaded, and that later that night, or the next, Muhammad took into his private tent for consummation of “marriage” the tortured man’s widow, whose father and other male relatives Muhammad had just killed.
Muhammad orders the killing of Abdullah bin Katal’s and one of his singing-girls on page 550-1
Muhammad approves the murder of Asma bint Marwan on page 675-6.
Muhammad arranges the assassination of the old man Abu Afak on page 675.
Muhammad approves the murder of an old one-eyed Bedouin man, by Amr bin Umayya, one of his Jihadist thugs on page 674-5.
http://www.justislam.co.uk/images/Ibn%20Ishaq%20-%20Sirat%20Rasul%20Allah.pdf
Mohammed prophesied:
“this religion will split into seventy three; seventy two are in Hell and one is in Heaven…”
https://mohamedghilan.com/2011/11/10/my-ummah-will-split-into-73-sects-thats-it/
Mohammad made a prophesy about islam which is the following one:”he Messenger of Allah (Mohammed) observed: Verily Islam started as something strange and it would again revert (to its old position) of being strange just as it started, and it would recede between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole.” [Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0270.]. Please muslims study your sources. Come to YESHUA. (rSankara62 )
Learning islam says
The Funniest Quran Verse (Crazy Quran Verses: 2) U TUBE VIDEO
ANOTHER U-TUBE https://youtu.be/Y_MEQngvheg
The Quran is Mohamed’s personal book ,was reviled to solve his personal issues.
• Allah’s sole existence is to satisfy Muhammad’s selfish desires. It’s hard to know who’s Allah and who’s Muhammad.
• It’s brilliant. Allah telling people what Muhammad thinks on Muhammads behalf through Muhammad. You couldn’t make it up. Oh hang on a second?. In other words, Mo always got Allah to do his dirty work. Some “prophet”.
• the ‘eternal’ word of God for mankind’s guidance for all time is troubling himself with the present issues of one man who will sòon be dead. How can that be relevant to humanity?
• Surah 33 is probably one of the most disturbing and silly chapters of the Quran. I’m just thankful two-thirds of the chapter were lost.
• (Just imagine this. Muhammad wanted people to leave after they finished their meal, but he did not wanted to say it. But then he said it anyway, except he inserted the words HE wanted to say into the mouth of Allah and said it for him. That is how it sounds like and why its additionally quite ridiculous to consider this the eternal, holy word of God. And then the next line makes it maybe even more clear that this cannot possibly come from God “And when you ask (his wives) for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts.” This Allah is supposed to be the same God who speaks in the Bible, but yet we see a completely different God who expresses himself very differently by sounding more like Muhammad himself
If the Quran really is the final word of Allah and it’s supposed to be applicable and universal until the end of times then why would Allah include such a trivial matter in the Quran? What is a believer in the 21st century supposed to interpret from this passage?
Do you honestly believe that, prior to Creation, Allah knew that his favorite prophet would be annoyed by inconsiderate house guests, and thus solved the problem for him by handing down a “revelation” in the “Mother of all books”, that is preserved on a tablet in heaven??? Doesn’t “God” have something better to do than play toady to a minor Arabian war lord? A child of ten could readily understand that this is MUHAMMAD speaking, with Allah as his convenient puppet.
And what’s this business about not marrying Muhammad’s wives after his death? HOW CRUEL COULD ALLAH BE??? Most of those wives were very young women, already half-living after being given to Muhammad. Surely the LEAST Allah could do was to insure that they had happy, normal lives after the passing of the “prophet”. Here again, this is OBVIOUSLY Muhammad speaking with Allah as his puppet. The “prophet” was SOOO INSECURE and self-absorbed. It never seemed to occur to him that other human beings might have rights of their own – inclyding the right to be free of him and happy.
Why did Muhammad forbid marrying his wives after his death?
Because prophet Muhammad was impotent. Muhammad himself knew that he had no power to be a father. So in second marriage his widows’ had a possibility to be a mother. And this incident would reveal Muhammad’s truth.
So to hide his shame prophet Muhammad gave such order.
Even Ibrahim was not Prophet Muhammad’s son.
Because Maria had a Christian man
When aisha saw ibrahim she told to Muhammad “the son does not resemble you .” In this story Ali killed maria’s man. And sadly we all know that Ibrahim died at the age of two.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Lunatic not learning Islam, even Christian Evangelist liars who concocted these lies you are now copying and pasting have felt ashamed for descending so low to frame such lies when people with objective minds have discovered the charges against prophet muhammad and Islam are all unfounded .All the references you cited do not contain the nonsense you have asserted. people in the West have gone far in learning the truth about islam, not relying on fastasies being passed by christian evangelist liars to discredit Islam for filthy mithraist christianity to stand in the West,it Will continue falling like a cardhouse. Then The Evangelists gave up. It is only you lunatics Who love to continue. you can continue until you die and be casted into hottest lake of hellfire together with the Satan (holy spirit) who inspires you to hold on lies. You Will regret it the moment you are dead.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Using false quotes?
Ibrahim would never stoop to such levels of dishonesty.
Never.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Of course, we must all take Ibrahim’s word that the things posted above are fake, because he doesn’t have to prove anything by offering us sources to back his statement up.
Oh muslim, your word is worthless to us, for you have never shown an ounce of honesty or respect to truth in any post i have ever read of yours.
You Ibrahim, have done more to harm the image of islam than all of us put together could do in a thousand years of reading the koran out loud.
Well done, good muslim, thank you for undermining your own crumbling foothold in the world. A few more like you, and our job will be complete.
gravenimage says
Notice that Ibrahim itace muhammed is unable to refute anything Learning Islam wrote–so he has to resort to threatening him.
JawsV says
I don’t read the Muslim, graven. You wouldn’t let pollution into your home so why let it into your mind? He’s evil. Islam’s responsible.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Lunatic not learning Islam, even Christian Evangelist liars who concocted these lies you are now copying and pasting have felt ashamed for descending so low to frame such lies when people with objective minds have discovered the charges against prophet muhammad and Islam are all unfounded .All the references you have cited do not contain the nonsense you have asserted. people in the West have gone far in learning the truth about islam, not relying on fastasies being passed by christian evangelist liars to discredit Islam for filthy mithraist christianity to stand in the West,it Will continue falling like a cardhouse. The Evangelists have already gave up. It is only you lunatics Who love to continue. you can continue until you die and be casted into hottest lake of hellfire together with the Satan (holy spirit) who inspires you to hold on lies. You Will regret it the moment you are dead.
Ï could notice that most of those commenting in this site also reproduce the same lies against prophet muhammad and Islam representing the mindsets of few intoxicated Westerners with wild animal thinking because of satanic possession. with enlightment such obnoxious ideas Will whither away from the West and Islam Will shine there. May Allah free them from the shackles of satan(holy spirit) because they know not.Amen !!
gravenimage says
You can always tell when Ibrahim itace muhammed is wound up, because he just starts spamming wildly.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Indeed, it’s like he thinks bluster will cover for his lack of ability to support his claims or something.
LeftisruiningCanada says
You know Ibrahim, there’s these ideas we have as Christians.
One of them is that God loves order. He created all the things we see and know and love, out of nothing, arranging what He had made into unfathomable and specified complexities, all part of a whole that works beautifully even now, fallen as His creation is at the moment.
Because He loves order, we also believe that when He sends His Spirit to a person, that person will tend to become more orderly. Tis will be reflected in his way of living, his way of speaking, everything. It will also show in a love for the Truth.
Order, and Truth, Ibrahim. These are the signs of the Spirit of God at work.
But i don’t see those things in you Ibrahim. True, all i have to go on are your posts here, which honestly, isn’t much anyway you look at it.
But the way you go on repeating yourself, ranting steadily on the same things, in the same way, rarely a hint of anything ……. rational, or of any flexibility in how you think or respond.
The way you shy away from questions or anything you are challenged on; the way you duck and weave and ignore, the way you interact with information when you attempt to formulate or support a statement…….all of these things lead to only the conclusion that you care nothing for Truth at all.
If you aren’t a fake poster Ibrahim, and if you are actually just another guy like me sat at a computer reading and posting for things you really are interested and believe in, then please, take a look at what i’m saying. You’re a muslim, ok, fine. We disagree on many things, of course. But why can’t you deal honestly in conversation?
Is that you don’t respect us enough to do so? Do you not want to prove us wrong in what we say about your claims, or what others say about islam?
Do you have so little confidence in your claims, or in islam itself, that you dare not expose yourself to a serious discussion?
If you are here to try and defend and explain islam, then believe me, you are doing a very bad job Ibrahim by acting as you do. Or this is islam really is – shouting down your enemies, and arrogantly ignoring questions you know you can’t answer?
Just know this Ibrahim, you do far more damage to the reputation of islam and muslims than any story that gets posted up here by Mr Spencer. You do a great service to us that oppose islam and want to expose it for the evil we believe it to be.
What do you think of that?
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Leftruinigcanada, i am not dodging for fear that some things nasty on Islam Will be exposed. Islam has nothing to hide. Note:Islam has been subjected to critical scrutiny for centuries. First, when Islamic head quartiers was moved to syria and Bagdad muslims face many challenges from people with long civilisations like Greeks, persians and even christians and Jews, Islam has has been able to withstand all the critical scrutinies, which gave rise to intellectual activities passed to christiendom now benefiting the whole humanity as you May know about muslim contribution to sciences and other aspects of human endeavors. In fact such human knowledge the muslims obtained from old civilisations had contributed a lot in broad interpretations of Islam.Eg Greek philosophy gave rise to Islamic interpretation techniques. subject Areas like mantiq(Logic),Nahw(Grammar),Balagha (Rhetorics), Usulul Fiqh (jurisprudence) and Drasatu Tarikh (Historical investigations), which have been used as aids to interprete the Quran and Hadith, were all shaped by the Greek philosophy translated into Arabic and critically studied.
Coming down to the period of revival introduced by Ali Pasha in Egypt where Islam was subjected to modern critical scrutiny due to the Influence of modern civilisation learnt from thé West, Still Islam withstood the criticism and Islam began to Penetrate into the minds of intellectuals in the West. The church felt threatened that filthy christianity Will vanish and replaced with Islam. It was from then that they started concocting such lies and blackmails against islam and prophet muhammad Mr Spencer and CO. have using for mithraist filthy pagan christianity to survive.we Thank Almighty Allah that intellectuals in the West have gone behind the veil and have been discovering the truth about islam.
on your complaint that i have not supplying detailed response to your replies, you should ask the administrators not restrict what i have been posting to enable me go into details citing relevant references as Learning Islam is allowed to do here . Again, some myopic idiots at this site are even calling for my ban from posting or be delisted. why ? Are the one sided cooked ideas only are welcome here, no dissenting critical views ? If that is the case the site should change its title to “Christian Evangelical view Exposing the role Islamic theology play in global politics”.There are many forums owned by Christian Evangelists with such objectives. But Mr Spencer has given us an impression with his Jîhad watch that issues be debated intellectually and that is why i Come to the site as a person with keen interest in intellectual debate.
Thank you.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Hi Ibrahim,
Thank you for your reply, i very much appreciate the tone you wrote with.
You raise several interesting subjects which perhaps we will be able to discuss more fully as time and article subject allow. The history and influence of islam is something that i’m sure many others would be glad to add their knowledge on.
From my own area of knowledge, i would just add that i’m not sure that islam has been so willing to be placed under scrutiny as you suppose. We still do not have a critical edition of the koran, for example, whereas Christians have been working on such areas of study since a little after the time of the Reformation in Europe, 500 years ago.
I believe this is due to the fact that any such questioning of the foundations of islamic faith is met with extreme hostility in islamic countries, death or exile to the west coming to those who do the questioning.
Some textual critical work has been done by muslims in the west, but they usual conceal their identities for fear of reprisals. Death threats and attempts are common for those who ‘offend islam’.
With regards to the idea that your comments have been disallowed or deleted, i have to say that it leaves me puzzled. I remember one time when you were having trouble posting a reply in one of our tries at a discussion about mithraism, but i too was having the same problem in another comment thread.
In the end, it came down to the length and number of posts allowed in a single reply string. This must be something to do with the web software.
However, we were both able to post our comments up after a few tries, and you did reply on the mithra subject we were talking about.
But, it isn’t the posts i haven’t seen that concern me, it’s ones i have seen. Several times we have begun a discussion and, when i respond to your points, i never hear back from you. It’s is quite annoying, not to mention disrespectful, to simply walk away from a discussion when the other person is making an effort to provide answers, don’t you think?
There is also the issue of the false quotes you have posted up. When challenged about their veracity, you again simply left the conversation, never to return.
This is what has led to me thinking that you are not willing to properly support your statements. Can you understand how it might seem that why?
In closing, i do hope that we can agree on the following conventions, as they will really help us to engage in discussion on a more truth loving level:
1) provide more supporting references to your statements. It really isn’t enough to say X is true, or that Y is false. We must provide evidence.
2)Pick a few key points and discuss those. Posting up masses of text, citing whole books or pages, and talking in wide generalities don’t help a conversation.
3)Respond to the other’s questions and posts. Neither of us will put in the effort that a good reply needs, if we are expecting the other to ignore our work. Even if one of us doesn’t want to continue the discussion, simply saying so at least let’s the other person know not to expend more time on writing a reply.
What do you think? Will i hear back from you?
LeftisruiningCanada says
Guess not….
BillV says
The video asserts that Thomas Aquinas plagiarized Islamic works to initiate the European Renaissance among other outright lies. It is not only inappropriate in our country to be subjecting young children to religious doctrine, the propaganda in video 1 is deceitful and wrong. Here is what Saint Thomas Aquinas thought of Mohammed and Islam:
“Mohammed seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh urges us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected; he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity.
“He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the contrary, Mohammed said that he was sent in the power of his arms – which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants. What is more, no wise men, men trained in things divine and human, believed in him from the beginning. Those who believed in him were brutal men and desert wanderers, utterly ignorant of all divine teaching, through whose numbers Mohammed forced others to become his followers by the violence of his arms. Nor do divine pronouncements on the part of preceding prophets offer him any witness. On the contrary, he perverts almost all the testimony of the Old and the New Testaments by making them into a fabrication of his own, as can be seen by anyone who examines his law. It was, therefore, a shrewd decision on his part to forbid his followers to read the Old and New Testaments, lest these books convict him of falsity. It is thus clear that those who place faith in his words believe foolishly.”
Summa Contra Gentiles, Book 1, Chapter 16, Art. 4, Footnote 1
gravenimage says
BillV wrote:
The video asserts that Thomas Aquinas plagiarized Islamic works to initiate the European Renaissance among other outright lies.
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Thanks for that information, BillV.
This has become a recent canard–that it was Islam that began the Renaissance. Of course, this is utterly false–it was the rediscovery of the classical learning of Greece and Rome that sparked the Renaissance, not the dead hand of Islam.
Prabh108 says
One thing is certain crazy MohaMAD follower of Jhalla-allah (insaniac- Alla) who online research reveals to be father of three daughters – allah that is – allah has three daughters – this alone explains alla’s insanity – are daughter’s of Jhalla alla beautiful or ugly (irrelevant really as no daughter is really 100 percent ugly, at least we hope not) and one more thing is true: these freaks are supported by the $PLC – c stands for cents. So difficult to raise girls in the Kalljewg – iron age.
Can’t wait for Age of Truth to commence – only 435 000 years to go. For the Truthful and Honest it is always the Golden Age.
Possible Solutions to Jihadism:
1. Internal Reform of Islam needed.
2. Deprogramming of MohaMADans needed.
3. Superior weaponry needed.
4. Assimilation and Integration with normal people is strongly suggested to all who adhere to demented creeds. One South India YouTube Guru states it is the year 3000 now: I fully agree – in fact I had this thought myself before finding this message on YouTube. Metaphysics is best weapon against jihadism and all other false creeds. Good books save lives – bad book can ruin a life.
Koran squeal (note attempt at ‘pig’ humour of Bibble (deliberate misspelling as retaliation against projectjoshua which is actually Project Hindu Genocide. Warning to xtians: HINDUISM IS ETERNAL.
(off topic: Gold and Honey are virtually Eternal as is ATMAN-PARAMATMA which is essence of
prem-ras-pyar.
Glorious Hindu Good News Folks: WE ARE ALL DIVINE!!!
Warning to Whites and their friend(s): beware the Coudenhove-Kalergi plot to genocide natives of Western Aryavartan lands: Dr. David Frawely has excellent article on Children of Dani – Caspian Sea named after Beloved Rishi Kashyap.
Warning from one Western yoga teacher: beware Black Negroidal Racists – extremely dangerous.
Warning to all lovers of freedom: 100 million jihadists on the loose. My source states 10 percent of all Moslems are in fact extremely pious and devout. Therefore we cannot unleash atomic warfare yet…
Happy Thursday.
pr108
excuse typo if any
gravenimage says
Here’s Prabh108 ranting against “xtians” and the “Black Negroidal”. Very disturbing.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Likely a bad trip this time.
gravenimage says
🙂
LeftisruiningCanada says
The video also says that mohammad was sent to be the perfect example to mankind.
Best they don’t mention the bit about his ‘playtime’ with Aisha, or beheading 600 Jews.
But they should mention those bits.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Mr Spencer, i beg to disagree. It is worldwide phenomenon that Christian evangelists have been targeting muslim students teaching mithraist Christian doctrines even with protest from parents. According professor Aliu Fafunwa of Nigeria in his book :”History of Education in Nigeria “Christian missionaries in the south West of Nigeria even forced muslim children to attend church services, by then education was deliberately made under Christian missionary schools ,not govt owned. This made muslims in the shouth West of Nigeria reluctant to allow their children to enrol in western education schools at their disadvantage. Christians had been doing this in all the countries they colonised. I know in the United states how such mithraist christian doctrines are taught to students in all public schools, including muslim children. I think the fear now among Christian evangelists is that the more Islam is truely understood in the West the more Christian doctrines líke Godman and begotten son of God are doubted and rejected.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Mr Spencer, i beg to disagree.
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Well, of course he does! What could be better than teaching children that Muslims will murder them if they don’t convert to Islam?
More:
It is worldwide phenomenon that Christian evangelists have been targeting muslim students teaching mithraist Christian doctrines even with protest from parents. According professor Aliu Fafunwa of Nigeria in his book :”History of Education in Nigeria “Christian missionaries in the south West of Nigeria even forced muslim children to attend church services, by then education was deliberately made under Christian missionary schools ,not govt owned.
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This is the same Aliu Fafunwa who founded the Muslim Students Society of Nigeria along with Lateef Adegbite, who lauded the horrors of Shari’ah law. He was a major proponent of /the imposition of Shari’ah law in Nigeria–incliding *stoning*. He threatened the West that if Israel was not destroyed that they deserved more Jihad terrorism.
Given this, I would not take his claims about pushy Christians very seriously.
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This made muslims in the shouth West of Nigeria reluctant to allow their children to enrol in western education schools at their disadvantage.
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In other words, “Boko Haram”.
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Christians had been doing this in all the countries they colonised. I know in the United states how such mithraist christian doctrines are taught to students in all public schools, including muslim children.
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Well, this is just ludicrous. Children are not taught Christianity in public schools at all.
But then, why would one expect anything accurate about the United States from Ibrahim itace muhammed? He has previously claimed that while he was in New York City an entire bus full of “smelly Christian ladies” tried to have sex with him in public.
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I think the fear now among Christian evangelists is that the more Islam is truely understood in the West the more Christian doctrines líke Godman and begotten son of God are doubted and rejected.
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Threatening school children with death will certainly make Islam understood. *Ugh*.
As for this last, Ibrahim itace muhammed has inveighed against the concept of a loving God who cares about his creation many times. He demands that everyone live under the savage, loveless creed of “Allah”.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Ibrahim is right, it would be better to teach kinds about a savage pedophile who wants them to kill unbelievers.
“Mithra mithra mithra” and not a source to see…..
gravenimage says
The first video, “Intro to Islam,” is set to a musical version of a poem that describes “Christians and Jews as ‘infidels’ and prais[es] Muhammad in gruesome detail for slaughtering them,” according to the complaint.
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This is just sickening. Kudos to parent Libby Hilsenrath for exposing this savagery.
LeftisruiningCanada says
So many of these revolting islamic dawa videos are just like this one aren’t they.
Some monotonous mantra chanting, bad graphics and lies.
Paul says
I notice that the vid “Intro to Islam”, while praising Averroes as an essential figure for European Enlightenment, fails to mention the fact that he was a defender of Aristotelian philosophy against the anti-reason and anti-logic stance of the Ash’arites, and that it was the Ash’arites who eventually won the internal debate within Islam, and who then purged (in a typically bloody manner) all traces of opposing theology, setting the stage for the monolithic rejection of rationalism of modern Islam. Nice trick, that…
Kay says
The first film described, in addition to proselytizing, is terrorizing. Can you imagine young children having to sit and listen to someone sing about killing them?
Do the teachers not understand what is being said? Why do they allow such abuse?
gravenimage says
Yes–just appalling.
Kepha says
“Chatham’s social studies department chair sent an email where he linked to what he called a “priceless” clip from TV’s “The West Wing.” In the scene, the president character mocks a fundamentalist Christian about various tenants of the Old Testament, such as its endorsement of slavery….”
For Pete’s sake, the word you want here is “tenets”. “Tenants” are people to whom you rent a house, apartment, commercial property, or agricultural land–as in the tenants in the vineyard parable which Jesus preached (Mt. 21:33).
I fear that Chatham’s social studies dep’t chair is probably the sort of shallow, barely-educated, sort who all too often populates the halls of American secondary education. He apparently expected Old Testament slavery to be lily-white Hebrews hauling black-skinned Muslims from up the Nile to build Solomon’s palaces and pick cotton along the Jordan; and probably knew nothing of the Torah’s injunction to let a Hebrew slave go free in the seventh year (failure to do this got wealthy Hebrews roundly castigated by both Jeremiah and Nehemiah), or that in the New Testament, Onesimus was black and Philemon spoke in an Alabama drawl.
Further, ever since Uncle Kepha was a kid, we’ve bought into the meme that Islam brings “pride and dignity” to black people, for Malcolm X would never be mislead nor would he ever lie, would he? So, apparently, this social studies chair fails to note how Muslim Africa revives slavery the minute the colonialist packs up and goes home.
And I wonder where the ACLU is in all of this?
Lydia Church says
Of course Jesus is the Last and final Prophet (and more) from God the Father to man, (with a capital ‘P’ not to be confused with the gift), and He Himself said that He is the First and the Last in Revelation. Mohammed was a false prophet. That is what they need to be teaching! Christians need to stand up!
Indiana Tom says
The first video, “Intro to Islam,” is set to a musical version of a poem that describes “Christians and Jews as ‘infidels’ and prais[es] Muhammad in gruesome detail for slaughtering them,”
I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet-colored animal, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of the sexual immorality of the earth. And on her forehead a name was written, “MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF THE PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.
Michael Casmer says
what happened to the “separation of church and state”? Where are the atheists complaining? You can have this, but can’t sing Christmas carols in a public school?
Garfield says
This is one of the many reasons I homeschooled k-12.
Anyone with kids in school, know what they are foisting onto your kids and when its wrong- complain. Loudly. Tell other people. Send copies of tests and assignmemts to newspapers. Some of the indie weeklies MIGHT do a story on it. We all need to start telling people about this stuff and get the word out.
gravenimage says
Good for you, Garfield.
Hogdude says
Righteous comment, Mr. Spencer. If the tenets of Islam (or any other purported religion is taught), then the tenets of Christianity should also be allowed. Thanks to our Founding Fathers for freedom of, and from, religion.