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Turkey threatens action against US-allied Syrian Kurds plan

Jan 18, 2018 6:02 am By Christine Douglass-Williams

Turkey has vowed to:

take action against a United States-supported plan to establish a Kurdish-majority force of 30,000 troops in Syria “regardless of who backs them”, cautioned Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu.

Turkey is desperate to crush the Kurds. The tension is historic:

When Mustafa Kemal Ataturk founded the modern republic in the ashes of World War I, Turkish nationalists attempted to unite everybody under a single identity for the sake of national unity and to prevent any more territorial loss, but the Kurds refused to join up because the Western powers had promised them a state of their own.

Thus Turkish response to “Kurdish nationalism was tantamount to attempted cultural genocide.”

This past summer, Turkey announced an alliance with Shia Iran to counter Kurd ambitions, betraying Turkey’s usual Sunni sectarian stance.

So now adding to tensions is that Kurdish-led regions of Syria are looking to a new U.S.-backed border force to protect them in the face of growing threats from Turkey and Damascus; “Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has now pledged to ‘choke ‘ the 30,000-strong Syrian Border Security Force.”

The jihad wars between rival Muslim groups are a historic plague, now threatening the West; this fact is routinely ignored by leftist-socialist ideologues who have bought into the concept of “Islamophobia” that is intended to silence observers. While Erdogan aims to crush the Kurds, he wants “Islamophobia” declared a crime against humanity.

It was also just announced that the Twitter accounts of Former Fox News hosts Greta van Susteren and Eric Bolling were hacked by Erdogan Turkish loyalists. One of the messages sent out to millions read: “We love the Turks and Muslims in the world. We condemn those who persecute them, especially in the United States, and we share their suffering. We love Turkish soldiers, we love Erdoğan, we love Turkey.”

“Turkey Warns: ‘We Will Take Our Own Measures’ Against U.S.-Allied Syrian Kurds”, Breitbart, by Edwin Mora, Breitbart News, January 17, 2018:

Turkey vows to take action against a United States-supported plan to establish a Kurdish-majority force of 30,000 troops in Syria “regardless of who backs them,” cautioned Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu. The foreign minister reportedly urged the United States to “clarify which side it is on, whether it chooses to be with its allies or terror groups.”

“We will take our own measures [against Kurdish-majority force]. Regardless of who backs them, whether it is the U.S. or other countries, it doesn’t matter to us,” the foreign minister told reporters in Canada’s Vancouver city, reports Turkey’s state-run Anadolu Agency.

The foreign minister reportedly urged the United States to “clarify which side it is on, whether it chooses to be with its allies or terror groups.”

Alluding to “a possible military operation into” Kurdish-controlled northern Syria, the foreign minister pointed out that Turkey will continue to fight against the U.S.-allied People’s Protection Units (YPG/YPJ).

The YPG is the armed wing of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) that controls vast swathes of northern Syria (the YPJ is it’s all-women analog).

America’s support for the Syrian Kurdish groups, which Turkey considers to be terrorists linked to the Kurdistan Worker’s Party (PKK), has driven a wedge between NATO allies Ankara and Washington.

Although the United States has also deemed the PKK to be a terrorist organization, it has provided support to the Syrian Kurdish groups in their fight against the Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL).

Cavusoglu’s warning comes after Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan pledged to “choke” the 30,000-strong Syrian Border Security Force (BSF).

The U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), a Kurdish-Arab alliance made up primarily of YPG fighters, is expected to lead the BSF.

In a statement issued by Ryan Dillon, a spokesman for the U.S.-led coalition against ISIS, the alliance confirmed that it is “working jointly” with the YPG-led SDF “to establish and train the new Syrian Border Security Force.”

Erdogan has dismissed the BSF as a “horde of murderers.”…..

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  1. RichardL says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 7:43 am

    Turkey is the biggest islamic danger: they have the only decent islamic military (I trained with many of them), they have 1m soldiers under arms, and, most importantly, they are already within our polis because they are member of NATO. I hope Trump throws them out tomorrow.

    • mortimer says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 9:41 am

      Agree. Turkey is a great danger to the world. In 1919, Turkey was shattered and should have been completely dismantled as was the Austrian Empire. Historic Armenia should have been removed, Constantinople assigned to Bulgaria and a Kurdistan created at the time. Today, there is still a need for a Kurdistan, since Erdogan has spoken of Kurds with racist and genocidal threats.

      The world should not doubt that Erdogan would dearly love for the next genocide to involve the Kurds.

  2. Mac-101 says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 8:05 am

    My US Army Chinook company at Aviano Air base in Italy in 1990/1991 provided Humanitarian assistance to the Kurdish refugees in Iraq. I believe it was called “Operation Provide Comfort”. When the US Chinooks left helping the people, the Turk’s Black Hawks would come in and gun down ALL the refugees; Some men, but especially women and children. So much for the Turks. This doesn’t even mention the Armenian Genocide!

    • mortimer says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 9:43 am

      Thanks, Mac. Turkey has one of the most racist and fascist regimes in the world.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 9:35 pm

      Horrible, Mac–but I cannot say I am surprised.

  3. CRUSADER says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 8:07 am

    Turkey is a nation which has implemented genocide and subsequent cover-up with continued propaganda….regardless of who has been in power — Islamist or Secular.

    A poignant movie to see is “The Promise”….to get an emotional sense of what deceit and cruelty which Turks are capable of in this modern and global era….

    In their past, they treated Greeks with contempt.

    Talk about racists, bigots…. Turks can be very intolerant.
    Perhaps their historically Islamic influence makes them so.

    • christianblood says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 8:43 am

      CRUSADER

      You are right. But remember the islamis Turks, are US and Nato allies will Russia is considered an ‘existential threat’ by the US and the Western allies.

      • LeftisruiningCanada says

        Jan 18, 2018 at 6:01 pm

        Hardly BFFs CB….just useful, i’d say.

        How can they be considered real allies, when it’s hard to find a regular Turk, let alone a soldier, who won’t tell you they hate israel?

      • christianblood says

        Jan 18, 2018 at 6:44 pm

        Correction:

        …whereas Russia is considered…

  4. christianblood says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 8:39 am

    US and the Turks are a part of a US and Saudi-led coalition that support various murderous islamic jihadist groups that are fighting to overthrow the secular government of Syria led by president Assad and then to mass-murder Christians and other minorities in Syria. No doubt that Syrian government and Syrian Christians and other minorities in that country will welcome if their enemies start fighting among themselves. In another development, Rex Tillerson, have just stated that the US will keep thousands of its forces and its international jihadist proxies illegally in Syria to make sure the departure of Assad and the victory of the US and Saudi-backed jihadist international proxies in Syria. Please read more of this fresh news on the link below:

    https://southfront.org/tillerson-us-to-keep-military-presence-in-syria-to-remove-assad-from-power/

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 9:39 pm

      You do know that Putin is reaching out to Turkey:

      “Putin in Ankara to forge alliance of Russia, Turkey and Iran”

      https://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2017/09/26/Putin-in-Ankara-to-forge-alliance-of-Russia-Turkey-and-Iran.html

      Of course, Muslim Turkey is not an ally of either the West or Russia.

      • christianblood says

        Jan 19, 2018 at 8:08 am

        gravenimage

        The Turks are officially allied with the US as they still are a member of Nato but please understand that Erdogan is pissed off over a year ago, after the CIA organized an unsuccessful Gulenist-Islamist coup against him. Russia actually warned him of the plot just before it occurred!

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 19, 2018 at 2:42 pm

          Christianblood, you do realize that condemning the US for allying with Erdogan *and* accusing them of a coup against him is rather a contradiction?

          Gulen is currently based in the US–he does not belong here. But hence claiming that this means that any actions on his part–even assuming he was behind the coup–were done under the aegis of the CIA is ridiculous.

          Russia has been playing footsie with Turkey, as well–Putin recently opened Europe’s biggest Mosque along side him in Moscow.

          As I have noted many times, Turkey is not an ally of *any* Infidel country–not of the United States or the rest of the West, and not of Russia. *All* Infidels should know better.

        • christianblood says

          Jan 19, 2018 at 6:20 pm

          gravenimage

          Graven, history proofs that US can even back-stab its own close allies if they see some different opportunity that is more in tune with its hegemonic agenda. The overthrowing of the Shah of Iran where the CIA covertly collaborated with Khumeinists is a classic example of this. Yes, Turkey is a member of Nato and technically a US ally but for the past few years, the US and the West were looking for every opportunity to get rid off Erdogan, who in their eyes is a “nationalistic and dictatorial” leader and that is why the CIA took the opportunity to back the Gulenists eventhough they probably knew the Gulenists are more stricter islamists than Erdogan’s (Justice and Development Party) MB party which is, though islamist, but more pragmatic and more nationalistic in its policies.

  5. ElderlyZionist says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 8:41 am

    Are we ready to take the Turks down? Will the Russians stand aside or interfere?

    • Mac-101 says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 8:45 am

      The disgusting thing is we, the British and then the US, have blocked the Russians in their support of the Eastern Orthodox Christians since from the 19th century on!

      • mortimer says

        Jan 18, 2018 at 9:45 am

        Their global realpolitik has been focussed on limiting the power of Russia, rather than helping Eastern persecuted Christians who were almost entirely abandoned.

        • Mac-101 says

          Jan 18, 2018 at 10:26 pm

          Some say it goes back to the American Civil War when Russia told the British that they would break any blockade of the Union that the British or French attempted to make on the North.
          .
          Supposedly one powerful person/family made a promise that he or his offspring would kill the entire Royal Russian family for their support of the Union and the Union’s issuance of Green backs instead of borrowing money on the international market.

    • christianblood says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 6:49 pm

      Turkey is US, Nato ally, not Russia’s ally!

      Erdogan is pissed off a year ago after the CIA organized a Gulenist islamist coup against him. This aborted coup was led by Fefulah Gulen who is an islamist clerk based in the US but has a huge islamist following in Turkey.

      • Mark Swan says

        Jan 18, 2018 at 8:38 pm

        Turkey dispatched its military chief to Moscow on Thursday, seeking approval for an air campaign in Syria’s Kurdish-controlled Afrin region.

        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-denial/turkey-seeks-russian-approval-for-air-campaign-against-afrin-idUSKBN1F70VN

        • christianblood says

          Jan 18, 2018 at 9:45 pm

          Mark Swan

          That is right. And Syria threatened to shoot down Turkish planes if they attack Afrin. See it below. Let us see how it develops. The majority of the Syrian people, including religious minorities in Syria as well as the Syrian government would welcome if their enemies, in this case, the US and the Turks and their jihadist proxies fight it out among themselves.

          https://southfront.org/syrian-air-defense-ready-to-destroy-turkish-warplanes-if-they-attack-afrin-deputy-fm/

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 18, 2018 at 9:42 pm

        Didn’t Christianblood just contradict himself here?

        • christianblood says

          Jan 18, 2018 at 9:52 pm

          gravenimage

          No contradiction here, Graven! The Syrian government is warning the Turks as gesture of goodwill to the (SDF) Kurds because there are some SDF Kurdish leadership that are sympathetic to the Syrian government (it is a rhetorical political game) but in reality they Syrian government and the majority of the Syrian people would like if the US, the Turks and their proxies fight it out among themselves.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 19, 2018 at 2:49 pm

          Of course, that was not what I was referring to. You are condemning the US is an undying ally of Erdogan, and at the same time claiming that they are behind a (supposed) Gulenist coup against him.

        • christianblood says

          Jan 19, 2018 at 6:38 pm

          Graven,

          Politics is a dirty game! Your closest friend and ally can stab you in the back in your weakest moment and that is how the US treated Erdogan. They thought the Gulenists who are more stricter islamists would be better for the American hegemonic agenda than working with Erdogan whom they consider as a “nationalistic dictator”. US always prefers islamists over nationalistic dictators like Erdogan or secular Arab (Ba’athist) dictators like Saddam and Assad or even Qaddafi who was an pan Arab, pan-African socialist dictator. Erdogan combines MB (muslim brotherhood) islamism with Turkey nationalism. Now, US and the West don’t care Erdogan’s MB islamism, (remember Mursi of Egypt and how US demanded that Mubarak step down and be replaced by MB islamist Mursi?). What they don’t like about Erdogan is his “dictatorial nationalism” which they see as a threat! Very, very strange indeed!!!

  6. WorkingClassPost says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 11:12 am

    The only good thing about Turkey is that Erdogan showed his hand before they joined EU…

    • LeftisruiningCanada says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 6:03 pm

      Invading Cyprus told the West all they needed to know.

      Turkey wasn’t getting in the EU unless they withdrew from the island, at least that’s what i last read.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 19, 2018 at 2:53 pm

      True, WorkingClassPost. Few are still talking about Turkey joining the EU, which is a good thing.

  7. Sam says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 12:57 pm

    I am from Turkey originally. I will not go back there again.

    Erdogan has never been friends with anybody but himself. He supported and bought oil from ISIS behind our back He is against Israel if he needs favors from Islamic world. He used and uses the religion of peace to get his vote to power. He is a typical selfish dictator. One good thing about the guy is nobody likes him.

    Most Turks are muslims and will side with Islamic States when things heat up. The few “enlightened” people are communists which indicate that they have no clue either.

    I would support Kurds financially and heavily but I would not send ONE American solder in that “shit hole” called middle east.

    Like Robert says we must tailor our foreign policy towards Middle East by truly understanding Islam as it is the driving force behind all the crazy things happening there and here along with the clueless globalists.

    • StellaSaidSo says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 1:08 pm

      Interesting post, Sam, thankyou for sharing.

      You’re absolutely right about Islam and the globalists being ‘behind all the crazy things happening.’

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 19, 2018 at 12:13 am

      Thank you, Sam.

  8. Ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 3:09 pm

    Let alliance between treacherous United states and Turkey break. No muslim should trust evil united states and fascist zionist state of Israel. Such alliance with hostile unbelivers like treacherous evil united states and fascist evil zionist state of Israel is prohibited in Islam as explicitly stated in the Quran.

    • StellaSaidSo says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 3:20 pm

      Since you hate the US so much, perhaps you should stop using American technology.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 19, 2018 at 12:16 am

        Yes–if he were really committed, Ibrahim itace muhammed would have to stop using all technology from “filthy Christians and evil Jews”–the whole of the West and Israel.

    • LeftisruiningCanada says

      Jan 19, 2018 at 1:11 pm

      Yes, Ibrahim good for you with your BDS against the West.

      Now, back to mohammads cave with you, bye bye.

  9. Ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 3:35 pm

    stellasaidso, American technology is beoming obsolete. many nations have now opted for subtitutes. Your evil zionist slave state Will be deserted. Take note.

    • StellaSaidSo says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 3:46 pm

      What ‘substitutes’?

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 19, 2018 at 12:14 am

        Ha ha

    • LeftisruiningCanada says

      Jan 19, 2018 at 1:11 pm

      He means “imitations”

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 19, 2018 at 2:59 pm

        Exactly so. Pirated technology.

        Doesn’t he know that Islam condemns innovation? His posts are ample proof of that.

  10. Ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 3:37 pm

    stellasaidso, American technology is beoming obsolete. many nations have now opted for subtitutes. take note

    • Andy says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 3:53 pm

      To: Ibrahim itace muhammed

      GFY

      along with your religion of Pieces!!

      GFY= Go F–K Yourself!!

    • LeftisruiningCanada says

      Jan 19, 2018 at 4:30 pm

      You aren’t under the impression that if it says “made in china” on the side, that means it isn’t western technology are you?

  11. b.a. freeman says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 3:45 pm

    the u.s. should not be an ally of turkey; turkey is an enemy of the u.s., and should be thrown out of NATO. nevertheless, the u.s. will kiss erdogan’s a**, because she is still be led by those who are clueless about islam. mr. trump may be wising up, but the process is agonizingly slow.

  12. Andy says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 3:46 pm

    To;Ibrahim itace muhammed

    Islam is the ENEMY!!!!

    Islam out of all Western Judeo-Christian Nations

    ” Here, Jesus is our King so get out ”

    • StellaSaidSo says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 3:48 pm

      The Poles are AWESOME. Inspirational.

      • Andy says

        Jan 18, 2018 at 3:55 pm

        You can say that again Stella

        We need that spirit all over Europe, UK, America, Canada and all Western Nations!!!!!

        The time to stand up is NOW!!!!

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 19, 2018 at 3:01 pm

        Yes–great to see.

    • Ibrahim itace muhammed says

      Jan 18, 2018 at 5:28 pm

      Andy, It is gospel of mithraism of old inspired by thé Satan christians Call holy spirit. Anyone cherishing It Will be casted into hottest lake of hellfire together with holy spirit. Brassée !!

      • Andy says

        Jan 19, 2018 at 12:21 am

        To:Ibrahim itace muhammed

        Nothing To Do With Islam

        • christianblood says

          Jan 20, 2018 at 8:35 pm

          Andy

          Very humorous indeed but then islam has NO sense of humor!

      • LeftisruiningCanada says

        Jan 19, 2018 at 1:13 pm

        All claims that Ibrahim is unable to support.

        He thinks that repeating things makes it come true.

        Which is a very pagan belief.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 19, 2018 at 3:16 pm

        Of course, Christianity has nothing to do with Mithraism. Why does Ibrahim itace muhammed keep parroting this?

  13. Garfield says

    Jan 18, 2018 at 7:28 pm

    It looks like there’s going to be troubles in Syria again….I kept thinking Iran and turkey would be key players but I can’t figure out what’s going on…stressful. I figured Russia would want Assad to stay…that turkey would throw a fit at some point…that Iran and its Hezbollah would pipe up…yikes. What a mess the world is in. Thanks Obama.

  14. Harry Again says

    Jan 19, 2018 at 9:04 am

    There are NO good guys in the Middle East.

    • Laura says

      Jan 19, 2018 at 10:22 am

      Apart from the Israelis.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 19, 2018 at 3:20 pm

        Spot on, Laura.

  15. Carl says

    Jan 19, 2018 at 10:24 am

    Isn’t it interesting to note how Islam has no qualms about genocide of those who do not agree with them? Even within their own ranks! Allowing Islam into your country as a sign of compassion is just setting the scene to the genocide of your culture and children. I’m just calling a spade a spade. But in Merkel’s cricles that is not politically correct. So sit back and watch yourself die inch by inch. Islam is well versed and trained on how to eat an elephant – one bite at a time.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 19, 2018 at 3:21 pm

      +1

      • Mark Swan says

        Jan 19, 2018 at 5:31 pm

        According to the United Nations, “Children caught in war zones are increasingly being used as weapons of war—recruited to fight, forced to act as suicide bombers, and used as human shields” ( The Guardian , December 27, 2017). According to UNICEF, “parties to conflicts were blatantly disregarding international humanitarian law and children were routinely coming under attack. Rape, forced marriage, abduction and enslavement had become standard tactics in conflicts across Iraq, Syria and Yemen, as well as in Nigeria, South Sudan and Myanmar.”

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