This is actually a plausible claim, which does not make Adil Sultan’s actions excusable.
Islamic apologists in the West routinely deny that Muhammad consummated his marriage with (i.e., raped) Aisha when she was nine, and go through all sorts of contortions to deny the evidence of the texts, but the fact that child marriage is accepted in wide swaths of the Islamic world. Child marriage has abundant attestation in Islamic tradition and law.
“Islam has no age barrier in marriage and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this” — Ishaq Akintola, professor of Islamic Eschatology and Director of Muslim Rights Concern, Nigeria
“There is no minimum marriage age for either men or women in Islamic law. The law in many countries permits girls to marry only from the age of 18. This is arbitrary legislation, not Islamic law.” — Dr. Abd Al-Hamid Al-‘Ubeidi, Iraqi expert on Islamic law
There is no minimum age for marriage and that girls can be married “even if they are in the cradle.” — Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, prominent cleric and member of Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council
“Islam does not forbid marriage of young children.” — Pakistan’s Council of Islamic Ideology
Hadiths that Muslims consider authentic record that Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was six when Muhammad wedded her and nine when he consummated the marriage:
“The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)” (Bukhari 7.62.88).
Another tradition has Aisha herself recount the scene:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Bukhari 5.58.234).
Muhammad was at this time fifty-four years old.
Marrying young girls was not all that unusual for its time, but because in Islam Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (cf. Qur’an 33:21), he is considered exemplary in this unto today. And so in April 2011, the Bangladesh Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini declared that those trying to pass a law banning child marriage in that country were putting Muhammad in a bad light: “Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam, [putting] the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge.” He added a threat: “Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women.” The Mufti said that 200,000 jihadists were ready to sacrifice their lives for any law restricting child marriage.
Likewise the influential website Islamonline.com in December 2010 justified child marriage by invoking not only Muhammad’s example, but the Qur’an as well:
The Noble Qur’an has also mentioned the waiting period [i.e. for a divorced wife to remarry] for the wife who has not yet menstruated, saying: “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women, if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated” [Qur’an 65:4]. Since this is not negated later, we can take from this verse that it is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a prepubescent girl. The Qur’an is not like the books of jurisprudence which mention what the implications of things are, even if they are prohibited. It is true that the prophet entered into a marriage contract with A’isha when she was six years old, however he did not have sex with her until she was nine years old, according to al-Bukhari.
Other countries make Muhammad’s example the basis of their laws regarding the legal marriageable age for girls. Article 1041 of the Civil Code of the Islamic Republic of Iran states that girls can be engaged before the age of nine, and married at nine: “Marriage before puberty (nine full lunar years for girls) is prohibited. Marriage contracted before reaching puberty with the permission of the guardian is valid provided that the interests of the ward are duly observed.”
According to Amir Taheri in The Spirit of Allah: Khomeini and the Islamic Revolution (pp. 90-91), Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight. Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl “a divine blessing,” and advised the faithful to give their own daughters away accordingly: “Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house.” When he took power in Iran, he lowered the legal marriageable age of girls to nine, in accord with Muhammad’s example.
“Convicted Pakistani paedophile, 39, claims it’s ‘too dangerous’ to send him home after vigilantes snared him trying to have sex with a girl, 14, ‘because he thought it was legal in UK,'” by Richard Spillett, Mailonline, January 19, 2018:
A Pakistani paedophile who claimed he didn’t realise it was illegal to have sex with 14-year-olds intends to use his conviction for grooming to help him claim asylum in the UK.
Adil Sultan, 39, thought he was chatting to a schoolgirl online, where he encouraged her to send him explicit photos of herself and meet up with him for sex.
But he was actually exchanging messages with the vigilante group Guardians of the North, who intercepted him and handed him over to the police.
He has now been jailed for 17 months after pleading guilty to attempting to meet a child following sexual grooming.
Newcastle Crown Court heard Sultan, who had posed as a 25-year-old and used a fake online name, believed ‘it was ok’ to have sex with a girl of 14.
He now claims his conviction means he cannot return to his homeland, as anger over a recent child rape case means it is now unsafe for him.
Instead, he plans to apply for asylum in the UK.
Footage shows Sultan being confronted by members of the Guardians group after he travelled from his home in Middlesbrough to Sunderland, thinking he was meeting a girl called Laura.
After he was handed over police and pleaded guilty to a charge, Judge Penny Moreland sentenced him to 17 months behind bars with ten years sex offender registration and sexual harm prevention order.
The judge told him: ‘You used a false name. You said you were 25 when in fact you are 39.
‘Very quickly Laura told you she was 14. Nonetheless, you went on to discuss having penetrative sexual activity with her.
‘The conversation very quickly became sexual and you were asking for indecent images of herself.
‘Your barrister tells me you thought it was OK to have sex with 14-year-olds. That is no excuse and offers you no mitigation.’…
Judge Moreland asked Mr Rafiq to clarify that it was the fact that it was not OK to have sex with 14-year-olds that Sultan did not understand.
Mr Rafiq replied: ‘He did not understand that.’
Phil Copson says
“….He now claims his conviction means he cannot return to his homeland, as anger over a recent child rape case means it is now unsafe for him…..”
Yet again, a muslim casts themselves as the victim and seeks to turn the situation to their own advantage…….very hard to believe that anyone in Pakistan would have any problem with him having sex with a 14-year old white girl, given that marriage at the age of 14 is permissible anyway…..
Jayell says
He’s committed his repulsive crime here, yet he seema to think that there isn’t any anger and he’s safe here, does he? What planet does he think he’s on? This despicable pervert’s absurd whinges are quite intolerable as well as being ludicrously illogical.
Andy says
Petition Leave the EU immediately
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/200165
Save Europe says
This is (finally!!!) the reaction to Rotherham, Rochdale, Glasgow, Newcastle, Wycombe, Dewsbury – to name but a few. I hoe these actions increase rapidly.
J D S says
Has any nation in the world got the balls to pass castration laws for proven rape?
bonnie louise loranger says
would be great
Carolyne says
Its also difficult to believe that there would be anger in Pakistan over the rape of a child, since that is the example set by their prophet, the barbaric Mohamed. Child rape is the norm in Islam.
DHazard says
ZERO Muslims use the example of Muhammad for ALL their behavior. If they did then they would wipe their asses with 3 rocks using their left hand (and Muslims are always claiming Islam invented hygiene). I am also certain that close to ZERO Muslims pray before they enter a bathroom to ward off the Jinn that hang around there.
But when it comes to imitating his murderous ways, MANY Muslims are on board with that. Including Muslims who NEVER pray five times a day.
It helps that most Muslims don’t know about these things so they can still continue to make the claim that Muhammad was the “perfect” man and penultimate role model. I know from experience that, when informed of the toilet rules in Islam, Muslims will block that from their minds and call you a racist.
elee says
This is to advise you that the state ministry of religion in Turkey, the Diyanet, ruled in 2015 that Muslims would be permitted to use toilet paper, as long as it wasn’t their “primary means of cleansing.” For that primary means of cleansing the Muslim must still follow the example of the Prophet per Koran 33:22.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
I’m sure that will increase tourism to Istanbul.
Terry Gain says
I’m cancelling all reservations at Turkish restaurants.
Jayell says
“ZERO Muslims use the example of Muhammad for ALL their behavior.”
Are you sure about the ‘zero’? But in any case, being a follower of Mohammed legitimises anything that the Great Prophet did or endorses, so the option is there should any muslim feel so inclined. Expecting law-abiding westerners to live in a society with this lot around is effectively expecting them to tolerate coexisting with ‘fellow citizens’ (sic) who are free to ignore the rule of law (and civility, and common decency) as and when they happen to feel like it.
David says
DHazard, especially if you extoll the virtues of Mohammad. Have a copy of the Hadiths with you. I have read some of the Koran, and it is mostly so boring and repetitive.
Historian says
Depends on whether the example was considered “obligatory,” “recommended” but not obligatory, or merely “permissible.” For example, under-age marriage, polygyny, and sex-slavery were unfortunately considered “permissible” for Muslim males by ulema, but they weren’t considered “obligatory.”
gravenimage says
There is another factor, though, Historian–the “Prophet” Muhammed is considered the model for every Muslim, and he practiced pedophilia, polygamy, and sex slavery.
elee says
Ignorantia legis neminem excusat
Peter says
Sed hoc non est musulmanorum palam loqui
DHazard says
I bet he knows how to get on benefits. He probably knows every legal way of getting something he didn’t earn for himself. But he “conveniently” doesn’t know the rules that stand in the way of his immediate gratification. It is also highly likely that he can’t read and depends on other people to tell him how to act, and those people hate non-Muslims (if they are following Muhammad’s and Allah’s words). So he comes to a foreign country and depends on a Sunni imam and that imam’s followers to tell him how to act.
So instead of saying “thank you” for allowing him to have a fairly decent life he rapes a girl. And he isn’t man enough to own up to his actions and instead hides behind the shield of ignorance.
Johnny Cuyana says
Hmmm … I must be hopelessly old-fashion: I can NOT claim to know how things are done in the UK — or, for that matter, in any and all other countries — however, here in the USA, I was always advised that ignorance of THE LAW is NO excuse.
PS: maybe I need to go find DVD’s of the old “Rumple of The Bailey” BBC program; the fact, notwithstanding, that ideologically, he was a whacked out leftist, the shows did touch on some of the nuances of UK jurisprudence.
Phil Copson says
“Rumpole” – not “Rumple”…… A year or two ago there was also quite a good BBC Radio 4 serial with Timothy West as “Rumpole”, Benedict Cumberbatch as the young Rumpole, and Jasmine Hyde as his formidable wife Hilda. (Worth seeing if it can be found on the BBC iPlayer or on CD ?) Some episodes suffered from an excess of Lefty script-writing – such as when the audience were apparently supposed to feel sympathy for an IRA-supporter who gets shot by the police – but as a bonus, we did finally get to find out about Rumpole’s immortal “Penge Bungalow Murder” case, in which he made his name at the bar.
This may sound off JW-topic, but stay with me….
I am always infuriated by people who claim to be “great fans” of some TV series / film / comic sketch etc, but quite plainly have completely failed to grasp what it was actually about. One such was some fool who was interviewed about his love of “Rumpole of The Bailey” and started chuckling and burbling on about he loved Rumpole’s wife – “She Who Must Obey” (!).
As any fule kno – (Molesworth) – it was Rumpole who was dominated by his dragon-wife Hilda – not her by him – and he referred ruefully to Hilda as “She Who Must Be Obeyed”.
He is referring to the 1,000 year old living goddess of H.Rider Haggard’s 1887 novel “She”. (Never read it, but I recommend his book “King Solomon’s Mines”) And finally for the JW connection:
And what is the name of “She Who Must Be Obeyed” ? Ayesha…..
(In real-life, Timothy West is married to Prunella Scales – (easily the most ghastly name for an actress that I’ve ever heard – sounds like a particularly repellent combination of wrinkly fruit and fish…) – best-known for playing Basil’s Fawlty’s equally-terrifying wife Sybil in “Fawlty Towers”)
Terry Gain says
American common law is based on English common law. This doctrine probably goes back to Hammurabi. Or before.
elee says
It would appear from the reportage that this guy didn’t try to “marry” anyone. He attempted to make her a captive “of his right hand,” which would make his action if consummated lawful under Islamic law. Kafir women of any age are helal, free for the taking by any Muslim at any time.
gravenimage says
True.
Bezelel says
He’s got time out to sit and figure it all out now.
pragmatist says
Only eight and a half months – not long enough.
Bezelel says
Agreed
Z says
‘Didn’t realize it was wrong,’ he said. So why change his age? What a sick freak. Vigilante group, I applaud your efforts.
Wellington says
Well, if your Model Man is the Profiteer Mohammed, then most any debased activity is justifiable.
Which demonstrates yet again that arguably the best way of defeating the monstrosity and enormous error which is the Islamic faith is to destroy the character of Mohammed, which character is so deserving of destruction. Yes, demonstrate convincingly to all the world the many warped and malevolent aspects of Mohammed and you will have gone a very long way in the noble quest of destroying all of Islam.
As Mohammed goes, so goes Islam. So, focus on this bastard. Show him no respect and never stop contrasting him to other religious founders like Jesus, Buddha, Confucius, Lao-Tzu, Zoroaster, et al. The house of cards which is Islam will crumble if Mo crumbles. Guaranteed. So spare not this man, one of the most destructive and malevolent personalities in all of history. He is the key to the eventual assignment of Islam to the trash heap of history which, I would contend, is a beautiful thought and prospect in its own right.
gravenimage says
Yes, Wellington–the vicious “Prophet” Muhammed should be exposed at every turn.
Wellington says
I do what I can, gravenimage, to pull down the character of this awful human being (even if he really didn’t exist what we know of the character of this reputed founder is abysmal).
gravenimage says
Agreed, Wellington. Apart from this savagery, I hope you are enjoying 2018 so far.
Terry Gain says
Wellington
You are of course absolutely correct about the evil Muhammad. I prefer to say “tell the truth about Muhammad”. This should be easier now that America is no longer led by a Muslim (or complete fool) who cautioned the entire world that The Future Must Not Belong To Those Who Slander The Prophet Of Islam. But we also need a new Pope and a British PM who aren’t Islamophilic dopes.
Wellington says
Yes, Terry Gain, the current Pope and British Prime Minister are not just underwhelming but harmful, ditto for the German Chancellor, Canada’s Prime Minister and a lot of other highly placed people in power in the West. Well, at least the current POTUS is no fool (and he has guts) but his predecessor most certainly was (whether complicit or not).
Barbara says
Not a plausible claim at all. Any good Muslim knows they are not supposed to have sex outside of marriage and must ask father’s permission for marriage–unless they are eloping so that she will convert to Islam. Islam would allow him to add her to his harem without her permission. Since she wasn’t captured in war or sold in a slave market, he doesn’t have the right to sleep with her, according to many Islamic teachers. He’s just making up excuses!
gravenimage says
Barbara, Muslims are *always* at war with the “filthy Infidels”. Raping unbelievers is always Halal.
Terry Gain says
Barbara
Or should I address you as Duped Again? Since he was following the example of Muhammad ( who was entitled to have sex with whomever he wanted) you are wrong.
Indiana Tom says
This is actually a plausible claim, which does not make Adil Sultan’s actions excusable.
Knowing their mindset, this is almost plausible.
Muslims are so full of Taqiyya and Tarriyha that they can pass lie detector tests with ease while lying the whole time.
Indiana Tom says
There is no minimum age for marriage and that girls can be married “even if they are in the cradle.” — Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, prominent cleric and member of Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council
Go one better than that as girls can be molested while still in the cradle.
Ordinary Joe says
HIM AND HIS CREED ARE TOTAL FILTH!!!!!!
Pfff says
If there was a job to run the electric chair for such satanic Islamic animals it would be the greatest of honors. There is only one answer to deal with Islam.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“He now claims his conviction means he cannot return to his homeland, as anger over a recent child rape case means it is now unsafe for him.”
This could be a very wild piece of lying.
What’s betting that the child being mentioned in the pakistani case was…3 years old, stolen from a home and ended up dead?
He pathetic attempt to connect his case with something like that would be laughable, which means the UK judge, always so concerned for the safety of muslim rapists, will probably buy it and give him indefinite leave to remain.
Good work to the ‘vigilante gang’ for snaring this disgusting sex slaver. Notice how the media can’t even mention decent hard working citizens doing good deeds without calling them nasty names.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Maybe he was trying to use this case:
http://thelinkpaper.ca/?p=66857
gravenimage says
Yes–I did some digging, and this is almost certainly the case:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/in-pakistan-the-rape-and-killing-of-a-7-year-old-girl-is-changing-a-culture-of-shame-and-indifference/2018/01/19/6fbb4100-fae6-11e7-9b5d-bbf0da31214d_story.html
Absolutely horrifying. But this little girl was a Muslim–she was, in fact, on her way to Qur’an class when abducted.
But the idea that anyone in Pakistan would care about the attempted rape of a 14-year-old Infidel girl in Dar-al-Harb is slim to none. Adil Sultan and his lawyer hope that we don’t know that, though.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Terrible crime, and sounds like he’s been a busy boy.
See how angry they get when it’s their little girls….
Only muslims have value.
Phil Copson says
A 3-year old Christian girl was also recently raped by a muslim neighbour in Pakistan. I think that it was on JW that I read this.
Police would have done nothing were it not for the intervention of another, better-intentioned and well-connected neighbour.
People like this child-rapist really are too dangerous ever to be allowed out, but whether he’s even convicted is an open question….
gravenimage says
UK: Muslim convicted pedophile claims he didn’t know sex with 14-year-olds was illegal
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Why aren’t the nations of the West–at the *very least*–teaching Muslims what is and is not allowed in our civilized societies? Canada tried this, with a warning to immigrants that “barbaric cultural practices,” such as honour killings and female genital mutilation, are crimes in Canada. But now, Trudeau has gotten rid of this. Just repulsive.
More:
A Pakistani paedophile who claimed he didn’t realise it was illegal to have sex with 14-year-olds intends to use his conviction for grooming to help him claim asylum in the UK.
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Muslims have *no shame*. This Mohammedan is using his trying to rape underaged British girls to gain “asylum”, so that he can have access to more Infidel children. *Insanity*. But in today’s England, he might actually be successful.
More:
Adil Sultan, 39, thought he was chatting to a schoolgirl online, where he encouraged her to send him explicit photos of herself and meet up with him for sex.
But he was actually exchanging messages with the vigilante group Guardians of the North, who intercepted him and handed him over to the police.
………………………..
I had not heard of this group, but *kudos to them* for protecting British children.
More:
He now claims his conviction means he cannot return to his homeland, as anger over a recent child rape case means it is now unsafe for him.
………………………..
My God, what a load of crap. Pakistan is fine with child rape:
“Pakistan: Senate body rejects ban on child marriage as ‘un-Islamic’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/10/pakistan-senate-body-rejects-ban-on-child-marriage-as-un-islamic
This vile piece of crap just hopes we don’t know that, and will give this pedophile Muslim asylum *because* he is a pedophile. Suicidal insanity. Let’s hope Britain proves supremacist Muslims wrong for once.
gravenimage says
Here’s more on Guardians of the North. They seem to be a great group, going after pedophiles, both Muslim and non-Muslim. It looks like they have had a lot of success in putting these creeps away–I’m glad to see it.
https://www.facebook.com/guardiansofthenorth/
LR says
“I’m glad to see it”…
Me too!!!
gravenimage says
🙂
mortimer says
SURELY, Pakistani Adil Sultan is AWARE of what is happening in Pakistan!
January 14, 2018 – Rape and murder of girl, 7, sparks child sex abuse debate in Pakistan
https://www.thenational.ae/world/asia/rape-and-murder-of-girl-7-sparks-child-sex-abuse-debate-in-pakistan-1.695355
Outrage over the rape and murder of a seven-year-old girl has caused Pakistan to reflect on how the debate around child sex abuse is managed. Zia Ur Reham reports from Karachi
On the morning of January 12, a school watchman in Ibrahim Haidri, an impoverished fishing neighbourhood of Karachi, had a narrow escape from a grisly death.
Dozens of enraged residents had ransacked the school building and tried to burn him alive. He had been accused of molesting an underage schoolgirl and his life was saved by the heavy contingent of police who arrived on the scene, arrested him and dispersed the lynch mob.
The incident occurred on the third day of public grief and anger in Pakistan over the abduction, rape and subsequent murder of seven-year-old Zainab Ansari in the Kasur district in Punjab province. The Kasur tragedy has not only sparked countrywide protests but also initiated a debate on the taboo subject of child sexual abuse and its prevalence.
Zainab disappeared in Kasur on January 4 while returning to her aunt’s house from a Quranic studies class. Her body was found five days later on a rubbish heap. The autopsy revealed she had been raped and sodomised before being strangled to death.
Statistics compiled by children’s rights advocates paint a distressing picture of child abuse not only in Kasur but throughout Pakistan. In first six months of 2017, a total of 1,764 cases of child abuse were reported nationwide, and 4,139 cases of child abuse were recorded in the whole of 2016, according to Sahil. Most of the cases — 62 per cent — were reported in Punjab, the largest and most populous province in Pakistan, followed by Sindh province (27 per cent).
Billy Chickens says
What an evil looking face. Ever notice how someone filled with the Holy Spirit looks fresh and innocent with eyes leading to their soul of pure goodness…then how someone filled with the spirit of Allah looks wicked with eyes leading to their dead soul?
The evil contained in this man’s face is a reflection of the founder of Islam – Satan, who, appearing as the “Angel Gabriel”, dictated the words of the Quran to Muhammad.
gravenimage says
Yes, Billy–pious Muslims always have that dead “shark eyes” look.
Phil Copson says
For a real pitiless, dead-eyed, “dead-inside” look betraying zero empathy for any living thing, check out pictures of the fanatic Merkel. A proper “People die – ideas live on” zealot, she is.
I’ve saved several such pics – anybody know to add photos to the post ?
This Sultan character has the “head-back, drooped-eyelids” pose typical of those who can’t be bothered to hide their contempt for those they consider beneath them. You also see it in rich businessmen, political party grandees etc, generally accompanied by the bored, “I-can-hardly-believe-that-I’m-even-speaking-to-you” speech delivery.
gravenimage says
You can’t embed photos, Phil–only Jihad Watch staff can do that. But if the images are available on-line (rather than ones you scanned yourself) then you can link to them.
For instance, here’s a fairly grim image of Merkel:
http://www.livetradingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/merkel-rating-sp-downgrading-jpg-crop_display.jpg
As for the dead shark eyed Muslims, many of them look truly soulless:
http://guardianlv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Islam-Creates-Monsters-Says-Psychlogist.jpg
MFritz says
Maybe to him the UK are already a sharia country and there are no laws against molesting 14-year-olds there?
StellaSaidSo says
The PM is not called Sharia May for no reason. There are at least 80 sharia courts operating legally in UK, and dozens more illegally. Theresa the Appeaser wears a hijab if she thinks there’s a vote in it. She can’t keep track of hundreds of returned ISIS jihadis, currently roaming around Britain, tho she can find sufficient police resources to monitor social media for ‘hate speech’ (ie criticism of Islam). For years, authorities in UK turned a blind eye as thousands of underage girls were trafficked by Muslim rape gangs. Yep, UK is already a sharia country. This POS probably calculated that he had a good chance of getting away with his crime, and of getting off lightly if caught.
MFritz says
Once you install a “parallel” justice any true democracy is basically over.
Special justics for muslims is like special justice for rich people. It means the REST of the population is exempted (and it doesn’t matter if for good or for bad).
And no properly educated, sane person WOULD accept sharia law instead of proper democratic law and civil rights.
StellaSaidSo says
Exactly. The sharia courts would have a lot less business if Muslim women had any idea that they could get a better deal elsewhere. But many are illiterate and don’t speak English. Which is exactly how the mullahs like it.
PATRICIA FRANCES KOENIG says
That Muslim perp is probably lying…as Islam approves lying to non-Muslims. Even if he continues that claim….ignorance of the law is no excuse. His claim illustrates that immigration from extremely different cultures is harmful to both the immigrants and the new host nation.
The Holy Bible elucidates, “… God’s law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right…”
krishna says
such islamic phedophilic acts are commited even in india
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/trichy/girl-9-rescued-from-marriage-to-39-yr-old-man/articleshow/62586073.cms
gravenimage says
Glad the little girl was rescued, Krishna.
Muslims practice pedophilia on the model of the “Prophet” Muhammed.
R Russell says
Ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking the law.
StellaSaidSo says
…unless you’re a Muslim.
Rotten Eye says
The sooner UK goes down the toilet, the sooner the British can move on to solve the Muslim problem. At least there are some British people left in Britain who want to preserve their country and heritage. Unlike Sweden who have lost all will to live.
Mmmuk1 says
Prime minister Theresa ‘the appeaser’ May will probably invite him to dinner at 10 Downing Street and London Mayor ‘Shady’ Khan will make him a freeman of the city.
Sarc.
Ren says
Killing the infidels is also not illegal.
Learning islam says
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 164:
Narrated ‘Aisha: I did not feel jealous of any of the wives of the Prophet as much as I did of Khadija (although) she died before he married me, for I often heard him mentioning her, and Allah had told him to give her the good tidings that she would have a palace of Qasab (i.e. pipes of precious stones and pearls in Paradise), and whenever he slaughtered a sheep, he would send her women-friends a good share of it.
Aisha bint Abi Bakr, Mohammed’s second wife, was totally the jealous type. Check this out:
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 168:
Narrated ‘Aisha: Once Hala bint Khuwailid, Khadija’s sister, asked the permission of the Prophet to enter. On that, the Prophet remembered the way Khadija used to ask permission, and that upset him. He said, “O Allah! Hala!” So I became jealous and said, “What makes you remember an old woman amongst the old women of Quraish an old woman (with a teethless mouth) of red gums who died long ago, and in whose place Allah has given you somebody better than her?”
Mohammed married Aisha approximately 3 years after Khadija died. He was around 53 years old. She was 6.
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88:
Narrated ‘Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236:
Narrated Hisham’s father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.
Sahih Muslim, Book 031, Number 5981:
A’isha reported that she used to play with dolls in the presence of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) and when her playmates came to her they left (the house) because they felt shy of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him), whereas Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent them to her.
what her parents were thinking. what could a 53 year old pervert possibly tell someone that would make them hand over their 6 year old daughter?
Learning islam says
Muhammad fantasized about baby Aisha before soliciting her from her father.
Sahih Muslim, Book 031, Number 5977:
‘A’isha reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) having said: I saw you in a dream for three nights when an angel brought you to me in a silk cloth and he said: Here is your wife, and when I removed (the cloth) from your face, lo, it was yourself, so I said: If this is from Allah, let Him carry it out.
Magic man in the sky told him to do it. If it’s good enough for him, dadgummit, it’s good enough for Mo! Now a lot of Muslim apologists say stuff like, “Oh, he didn’t really want to marry her at that age, but God told him to do it for political reasons. He really needed Aisha’s father to convert to Islam.”
Sahih Bukhari 9.140
Narrated ‘Aisha:
Allah’s apostle said to me, “you were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, ‘uncover (her),’ and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), ‘if this is from Allah, then it must happen.
Bullshit.
First off, if God really needed Abu Bakr to convert, why didn’t he just *poof* him into a Muslim? And secondly, that’s God’s big plan to bring Abu Bakr to the Muslim side? .
A marriage proposal for his baby girl is supposed to convert the man to Islam? I just don’t see it happening.
Here’s a little more about Abu Bakr that might help clear: he was Mohammed and Khadija’s neighbor. Abu Bakr and Mo were good friends for years, and in fact, he was one of the very first converts to Islam. He was also the first convert who was not a member of Mo’s immediate family. Abu Bakr was one of the first to buy in to the horse manure Mohammed was selling.
He tried to talk one of his wives into converting to Islam, and divorced her when she refused. His other wife, Aisha’s mother, converted to Islam. Gee, could the looming threat of a divorce have anything to do with that?
So there you go. That’s the man who handed over his little girl to a man nearly 9 times her age. He was convinced that Mohammed was a man of God, and whatever God says goes unless you want to burn in hell. Sound familiar?
Anyway, Aisha is considered to be Mohammed’s favorite wife. (The others probably just weren’t young enough.) If you’re interested in a pretty detailed and interesting story about how Mohammed received his revelations, check out Sahih Muslim, Book 004, Number 2127. It’s waaaaay too long to copy and paste here, but I’ll break it down for you real quick:
Mohammed goes to bed with Ayesha, waits for her to fall asleep, leaves and goes to a public area. She follows him, watches him stand around for a long time and then raise his hand to the sky 3 times (again with the number 3 obsession), and then she runs back and jumps into bed. He comes home, finds her out of breath, reveals that he’d known all along that she was following him, and then he punches her in the chest.
Mohammed, man of God, punches his adolescent wife on the chest.
Mohammed himself once deliberately struck ‘Aisha “on the chest which caused me pain”, according to Sahih Muslim vol.2 book 4 ch.352 no.2127 p.462.
Aisha’s father did not approve at first
Aisha’s father, Abu Bakr, wasn’t on board at first, but Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their followers into similar concessions.
Sahih Bukhari 7.18
Narrated ‘Ursa:
The prophet asked abu Bakr for ‘Aisha’s hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said “but I am your brother.” the prophet said, “you are my brother in Allah’s religion and his book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry.”
Muhammad, 50, marries baby Aisha at age 6
Sahih Bukhari volume 5, book 58, number 234
Narrated Aisha: the prophet engaged (married) me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, um ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became alright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some ansari women who said, “best wishes and Allah’s blessing and a good luck.” then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.
Sahih bukhari volume 8, book 73, number 151
Narrated ‘Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah’s apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the prophet would call them to join and play with me. (the playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for ‘Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-bari page 143, vol.13)
Muhammad would thigh( also known as “child molestation” in the West) with baby Aisha – Muhammad’s molestation of baby Aisha
The permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs (religious decrees) reviewed the question presented to the grand mufti Abu Abdullah Muhammad al-Shemary, the question forwarded to the committee by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/8/1421 (Islamic calendar).
After the committee studied the issue, they gave the following reply:
As for the prophet, peace and prayer of Allah be upon him, thighing his fiancée Aisha. She was six years of age and he could not have intercourse with her due to her small age. That is why [the prophet] peace and prayer of Allah be upon him placed his [male] member between her thighs and massaged it softly, as the apostle of Allah had control of his [male] member not like other believers..
Muhammad reserved baby Aisha for himself because she was a virgin and he wanted a virgin
Sahih al-Bukhari, volume 7, book 62, number 17
Narrated jabir bin ‘abdullah:
When I got married, Allah’s apostle said to me, “what type of lady have you married?” I replied, “I have married a matron.” he said, “why, don’t you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?” Jabir also said: Allah’s apostle said, “why didn’t you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?”
Hence, Muhammad’s comments indicate that his reason for marrying Aisha while a young virgin is so that he could fondle and sexually play with her!
Learning islam says
Aisha was not the only baby girl Muhammad fantasized about
In the classic history, Sirat Rasul Allah (The Life of Muhammad) by Ibn Ishaq, there is an account in which Muhammad expressed a marital interest in a crawling baby. This event seems to have occurred around the time of the battle of of Badr, when he was about 55 years old. He had married Aisha two years earlier, when he was 53 years of age.
(Suhayli, ii. 79: in the Riwaya of Yunus i. I. Recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu’lfadl) when she was a baby crawling before him and said, ‘if she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.’ but he died before she grew up and sufyan b. Al-aswad b. ‘Abdu’l-asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him rizq and lubab… [Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad, Karachi, p. 311]
Muhammad saw Um Habiba the daughter of Abbas while she was fatim (age of nursing) and he said, “if she grows up while I am still alive, I will marry her.” (Musnad Ahmad, number 25636)
Muhammad would bath with and fondle young Aisha
Bukhari (6:298) – Muhammad would take a bath with the little Aisha and fondle her.
Narrated ‘Aisha:
The prophet and I used to take a bath from a single pot while we were junub. During the menses, he used to order me to put on an izar (dress worn below the waist) and used to fondle me. While in itikaf, he used to bring his head near me and I would wash it while I used to be in my periods (menses).
Baby Aisha would wash semen stains off Muhammad’s clothes
Bukhari (4:232) – Muhammad’s wives would wash semen stains out of his clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to the mosque for prayers.
Sahih Bukhari volume 1, book 4, number 231:
Narrated Sulaiman bin Aasar:
I asked ‘Aisha about the clothes soiled with semen. She replied, “i used to wash it off the clothes of Allah’s apostle and he would go for the prayer while water spots were still visible. ”
Muhammad consummated baby Aisha when she was 9
Sunaan abu Dawud: book 11, number 2161:
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin:
I and the apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to lie in one cloth at night while I was menstruating. If anything from me smeared him, he washed the same place (that was smeared), and did not wash beyond it. If anything from him smeared his clothe, he washed the same place and did not wash beyond that, and prayed with it (i.e. The clothe).
Note: in the context of the times, Aisha was 9 lunar years old when the marriage was consummated. That is a few months less than 9 years as we define years today. So she may have been 8, in modern terms
Was mo “thighing” Aisha for years before he went for the vag when she showed signs of
how reliable the information is, mohammed and his band of thugs really loved rubbing one off between the thighs of the small and helpless.
Muhammad would sexually abuse his wives
Bukhari (6:300) – Muhammad’s wives had to be available for the prophet’s fondling even when they were having their menstrual period.
Bukhari volume 1, book 6, number 299:
Narrated ‘Abdur-rahman bin al-Aswad:
…(on the authority of his father) ‘Aisha said: “Whenever Allah’s apostle wanted to fondle anyone of us during her periods (menses), he used to order her to put on an izar and start fondling her.” ‘Aisha added, “None of you could control his sexual desires as the prophet could.”
The prophet would do all his wives in one night
Bukhari (62:6)
“The prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives.”
Muhammad also said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally – and it isn’t hard to guess why.
Bukhari (5:268)
“The prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number.” I asked Anas, ‘had the prophet the strength for it?’ Anas replied, ‘we used to say that the prophet was given the strength of thirty men. ”
Allah promoted this abusive sexual behavior:
“Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will” [Q 2:223]
Koran (2:223) likens a woman to a field (tilth), to be used by a man as he wills. In this verse, Allah also gives divine sanction for anal sex.
According to Islam, Muhammad is the perfection of humanity and the prototype of the most wonderful human conduct. He had sex with Aisha at the age of nine, which amounts to rape of a minor. He also left behind an enduring legacy for aged Muslim men to fulfill their carnal desires contrary to natural law and to the life-long devastation of young girls.
Allah promotes pedophilia
Quran 65.4 “and those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the ‘iddah (prescribed divorce period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. They are still immature) their ‘iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death] . And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their ‘iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens) (give birth) and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to him, he will make his matter easy for him.”
Sura (65:4) lays down rules for divorce and sets the prescribed period for divorce. It clearly says, Muslim men can marry (and divorce) little girls who have not yet reached menstruation age. This means that Muslim men were allowed to marry baby girls. This is the eternal word of god. This is an eternal law of Allah. All Muslims must believe in this teaching. Otherwise, they are no longer Muslims but apostates of Islam.
Allah incites Muslim Jihadists to war for acquiring sex-slaves as booty
“All married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.” 4:24
You can have sex with slaves women captured in war (with whom you may rape or do whatever you like).
Muhammad established an appalling precedent for abuse of young girls which is continued to be nurtured by the Muslim faithful. For example, Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran gave a fatwa about Quran 65.4:
“A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man’s four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl’s sister.”
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Muhammad’s father in law, Umar bin Khattab, the second rightly guided khalifa, married even a younger child, Umm Kulthum. Umm Khultum was about 4-5 years old when she was married. Umar was certainly not doing wrong according to Islam, Muhammad once said that even the devil would step aside when he met Umar on an alley. Islam is indeed the true religion for pedophiles, rapists, sadistics etc . Today’s muslim society is like the era of what 1400 years before. , killing of non-muslims , sharias law, beheading and so on.
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Terry Gain says
In terms of enlightenment Islam isn’t 7th century, it’s pre-Christian.
SDN says
Mr Spencer, it’s not hard to understand his confusion. He’s looked at the legal programs to provide condoms and other birth control in schools, the Planned Parenthood clinics who allow 14 year olds to get abortions without parental consent or prosecution of the adults that made them pregnant, and all the other Leftist programs to enable teenage sex.
How could something encouraged and supported by government policy be illegal?
gravenimage says
The idea that Islam learned pedophilia from the West is mistaken. The “Prophet” Muhammed himself was a pedophile.
utis says
What the hell is the British immigration bureaucracy for? Just a bunch of signs on the desk, and a paycheck for helping party leaders rule? Why didn’t they find out this slime had priors in his own country? A pedophile does not quit. Ever. Why don’t they instruct immigrants on local laws and values before they accept them?
What really has my fuse burning now is reading an article about a Pakistani denied asylum by the British Home Office. He had claimed he was a secular humanist, fleeing threats in his home country. The Home Office apparatchiks, on the basis of such things as not knowing about Aristotle or Plato, that he wasn’t a real humanist. Of course he could have been faking it, but maybe he was just a proletarian philosopher who got his ideas from indirect sources.
You wanna commit suicide the easy way? Stand in the street anywhere in Pakistan and say, “I’m an atheist” or “I’m a secularist.” You’ll get quick service.
Why don’t the Brits just lose their immigration bureaucracy? I bet they won’t see a difference.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; Another of Obama’s sons.
Ren Ostertag says
SDN is right on – governmental offices and “agencies” talking to underage kids (under 18) about what he/she outlines, is sexual abuse and a crime.
To Fred: A female usually has her first menstruation at the age of 13 1/2 years old, not 10 years. However, menstruating (second menstruation occurs not the following months, but five or six months later and then, gradually it will occur on a 28 to 30-day period of time) does not mean “ready for sexual activity.
This said, menstruation does not mean the person is ready/fit psychologically to take part in sexual activities. Rather, it takes years to mature.
tim gallagher says
All the never ending atrocious behaviours (whether the paedophilia and rape gangs, the terrorist attacks, the female genital mutilation, etc, ) committed by Muslims just show over and over again that Islam, which has no high ideals in relation to any area of human life, mainly because it follows the vile grub Muhammad’s evil example, just can’t possibly fit in with life in any civilised non-Muslim country. Islam is totally incompatible with our values. The only answer is to stop Muslims getting into non-Muslim nations and polluting those nations with their complete barbarity. Why our political leaders continue to let Muslim barbarians into our countries defies comprehension. They just keep piling up trouble for future generations to try to solve.
UNCLE VLADDI says
There’s actually some method behind their apparent madness!
Islam’s “morality:” US AGAINST THEM, MIGHT-MAKES-RIGHT, AND BLAME THOSE VICTIMS:
When islame was originally created, it was modeled on the Jews monotheism (whose twelve tribes are never at war with each other) because the pagan Arab tribes were always at war with each other; their so-called culture always was and still is only based on might-makes-right and us-against-them. Muhammad simply codified that nonsense for all time, said god still wanted them to commit those crimes, “but only” against a common enemy: against anyone and everyone who refused to join Muhammad’s new islamic war and plunder cult. And of course Muhammad really only set this up to enrich himself, so he’d have an excuse to commit every crime known to man, enthusiastically and often. Needless to say, when not united in common hatred of non-moslems, all moslem Arabs (and moslems in
general) still gleefully indulge in waging war on each other.
HONOUR KILLINGS EXPLAINED:
According to the books of such embedded cultural anthropologists as Rapheal Patai’s “The Arab Mind” and Carl Salzman’s “Culture and Conflict in the Middle East, Arab “culture” (which is codified in the Qur’an) glorifies the tribe over the individual, so each tribe engages in us-versus-them, might-makes-right wars all the time.
The best way to keep your tribal numbers up is to have each man marry four or more wives, which guarantees he will breed four (hopefully male warrior) children each year, while also depriving his enemy’s tribes of those same women and warrior-breeding ability.
This is also why they marry their own cousins all the time (so the enemy tribes can’t steal their women and potential warrior-children, thus weakening their own tribes) and it’s also why they have “honour” killings (because if they can’t control even their ‘weakest’ members, then they will invite attack from other tribes AND they’ll have lost those women’s warrior kids to their enemies, too!
So if they don’t kill their own women, then those women’ s actions will eventually get them all killed!
Moreover, it’s also why they glorify and emulate Muhammad as a pedophile, simply because they want to marry the females as young as they can, and have sex with them as soon as possible, in order to further gain the numerical edge on their tribal competition, by producing more offspring earlier and more often than everyone else.
Libtards in the West refuse to see this easy truth, and pretend it’s the moslems’ “cultural (aka racial) rights” to out-breed and conquer everyone.
PS: Not surprisingly, the only non-Arab or non-moslem, so-called “Christian” countries which also have honour-killings, are all colonies which derive their cultures from Spain – because Spain was violently conquered and enslaved by islam for 780 (for almost 1,000) years, that’s why!
LeftisruiningCanada says
Some of that tribal stuff makes sense for sure.
p bay says
He was running the pre schooler prostitute ring