Alsyed told Ali: “If you get martyrdom before me please tell Allah I love him.”
Yet “Ali was attracted by the ‘brotherhood’ aspect of Islamic extremism after a ‘very sad and very traumatic childhood’, according to the prosecution.”
Maybe he was, but if Alsyed spoke to him that way, it would appear that he understood Ali to have a good grasp of the Islamic theology behind jihad activity. But adherence to that theology is the one thing that the British government, like other governments in the West, is determined to ignore and ascribe to other causes.
“London teenage jihadis who wanted to fight in Syria trained with paintball sessions after one 16-year-old sold his Playstation and worked for Deliveroo to fund their plot before they were rumbled by a school,” by Richard Spillett, Mailonline, January 11, 2018:
Two brothers from London who plotted with their teenage friends to fight with jihadists in Syria face jail after a school tipped off anti-terror police about their plans.
Ahmedeltigani Alsyed, now 20, and Yusef Alsyed, 18, took out a gym subscription to ‘increase their fitness’ and attended a paintball event to train for battle with ISIS.
Meanwhile, 18-year-old Mohammed Ali and a 17-year-old Deliveroo driver, who cannot be named, booked plane tickets and travel documents to the war torn country.
They had contacted a terrorist fixer, bought tickets to travel to Turkey and packed camping gear and two kitchen knives ready for the trip on Valentine’s Day last year.
The four of them chatted on encrypted messaging app Telegram, under a group called ‘Peace’, about how to join the terrorist group throughout 2016.
The 17-year-old planned to sell his Playstation games console and get his cousin to steal a mobile phone in order to raise some spending money.
Ali was jailed for four years and two months and the 17-year-old was detained for two years and eight months at the Old Bailey last November, but the case can only be reported today.
Prosecutor Annabell Darlow, QC, said Ali and the 17-year-old believed that in death they would ‘achieve martyrdom.’
She said Yusuf came to the attention of police through the government anti-extremism strategy Prevent.
She said: ‘Alsyeds’ family went on holiday to Egypt between 25 June and 10 August 2016.
‘Upon their return all subject to schedule seven searches and had their mobile phones seized.’
Analysis of the phones showed contact with a facilitator in Yemen about potential travel to Libya or Syria.
Ali was attracted by the ‘brotherhood’ aspect of Islamic extremism after a ‘very sad and very traumatic childhood’, according to the prosecution.
Social workers have been engaged with his family for ‘many years’ due to a ‘serious conflict’ between his parents.
He was said to have expressed suicidal thoughts when he was just eight years old.
Ali had been shopped to the authorities by a close friend as he prepared to leave the UK, the court heard.
His school mate of six years ‘noted his increased interest in Islam in December 2016’ when he asked about getting electronic visas to travel to Iran or Syria so he could ‘practise his religion’.
Ali told his friend he thought Isis ‘weren’t really Muslims’ and said he planned to join rebel forces fighting Bashar al-Assad’s vicious regime.
During a series of encrypted Telegram chats Yusef Alsyed told Ali ‘if you get martyrdom before me please tell Allah I love him’….
According to the charge, they shared a video called ‘Crusades, Battles and Executions of Prisoners of Daesh’ between each other….
Prabh108 says
Nasty: acquire an education losers.
StellaSaidSo says
I doubt that they have the mental capacity for education. 1400 years of inbreeding have reduced the average Muslim IQ to around 20 points below the Western average. Being brainwashed by the vile cult of Islam means that they are not only stupid, but dangerous. And there are millions more where they came from.
tom parry says
Good point Stella,
I have not heard of the IQ theroy as part of the Islam problem. It make perfect sense at least
StellaSaidSo says
There is quite a lot of data about the impact of inbreeding in Islamic communities. The Pakistani community in UK, for example, accounts for approx. 3% of the population, but accounts for 33% of birth defects. 70% of marriages within the Pakistani community in UK are between first cousins. The average IQ in sub-Saharan Africa is 70. At this level of intelligence an individual is unlikely to be able to make a positive contribution within an advanced industrial society. Yet thousands are pouring in to Europe every week. They’re smart enough to ascertain where the best welfare deal can be found, of course.
Jayell says
I believe that the Pakistani involvement in the national paedophile grooming gang scandal is very high, and may have been quoted as up to 90% of total known offences. Add to that the other national problems related to this community (muslim terrorism crimes, narcotic crimes, taxi sexual offences, which then leads to questions about the cost of accommodating them in UK prisons), high dependency on welfare due to comparatively high unemployment rates, housing benefit and family supplement expenditure). All of that added to the birth defects figures (adding strain to the already overstretched NHS budget), and one has to ask some serious questions about the value of this particular community to the UK. It would be interesting to see net figures resulting from total national expenditure from the sum of all the above, set against a realistic financial evaluation of any unique positive contribution that this community might make to the country, duly moderated to take account of quality of performance. I would not be in the least surprised if the final figure was a substantial negative value.
Carol says
Stefan Molyneux has many impartial videos on the subject of IQ.
Prabh108 says
The one with the spectacles certainly looks smart enough: if he hadn’t been wasting time with the other two losers he might have made a life for himself. He looks young enough to succeed.
“Better alone than with bad company.” Daily life proves distilled wisdom of the ages in traditional maxims. Where are the parents???
b.a. freeman says
the parents will be at the mosque for khutbah, after withdrawing money to send to “islamic relief international” (which i believe funds either hamas or the muslim brotherhood).
the kids just follow the parents, mostly because they have been exposed to this poison through early childhood, when the influence is much greater than that of exposure in later years (which they also got, no doubt). islam is only the fastest-growing religion because muslims are the fastest breeders. conversions to islam are quite low compared to most other religions, especially net totals, because most people who say the shahada who have been raised in a decent family end up leaving soon after they figure out how nasty the cult of islam truly is.
MFritz says
They certainly listened very intently to their imam and learned all the lessons he had to teach them.
Alas, no policeman will go to their mosque and make sure he doesn’t teach others as well. You know, it would be “islamophobia” to do that.
J D S says
Just think of the young people who have been dragged into the cess pool of islam..They and those who taught them are hell bound and I know that gives God a heartache….Such stupidity to believe the nonsensical teachings that Islam puts forth …If it wasn’t so atrocious it would be laughable…getting 72 virgins after being killed now how stupid does that sound……If these young folks only knew the truth that their 72 virgins are actually 72 of Satan’s virgin angels just waiting to rape these young men.
tom parry says
Good point Stella,
I have not heard of the IQ theroy as part of the Islam problem. It make perfect sense at least
isabella van der Wetshuizen says
Look the solution is obvious
Get rid of Mr Trumo and take in more people from these s hole countries
What can go wrong
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Ali was jailed for four years and two months and the 17-year-old was detained for two years and eight months”
Just long enough to get them the equivalent of a bachelors degree in jailhouse jihad, wonderful.
“Ali was attracted by the ‘brotherhood’ aspect of Islamic extremism after a ‘very sad and very traumatic childhood’, according to the prosecution.
Social workers have been engaged with his family for ‘many years’ due to a ‘serious conflict’ between his parents.
He was said to have expressed suicidal thoughts when he was just eight years old.”
Here we go, socialists looking for socialist explanations again.
What we really see is the all too usual outcome of violent islamic family dynamics. In this case the result of these islamic family problems is being used as an excuse for other islamic social problems.
Fantastic how islam generates it’s own cover story when western liberals get involved.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; More of Obama’s sons.
Undaunted says
We have paint ball guns and training courses here in the US as well. How many of you commenting here train the way these idiots did?
If you’re not training at least as hard as these dip-shits did, then you need to stop commenting and get busy on saving your own life.
StellaSaidSo says
Fair point, Undaunted. While spreading the word about the jihad threat is vital to victory, history shows that there will be no victory over this foe without action. It would be a mistake to assume, however, that, because they aren’t talking about it, people aren’t preparing for just such action.