Who decides what constitutes “hate speech” and what doesn’t? That is the all-important question that Leftists who call for “hate speech” to be restricted in various ways consistently ignore. The grim reality is that those in power can label any opinion they dislike as “hate speech,” and proscribe it accordingly. That is the pathway to an unbridled tyranny. That’s why the freedom of speech is absolutely essential for a free society. But YouTube and its cohorts are rushing to destroy it by means of Orwellian initiatives of this kind.
“YouTube is investing $5 million in creators who ‘counter hate and promote tolerance,’” by Lizzie Plaugic, The Verge, January 24, 2018 (thanks to David):
YouTube announced today that it plans to invest $5 million in its Creators for Change program, in an effort to help members “counter hate and promote tolerance.” Creators for Change, which launched in 2016, is a collective of 39 YouTubers who use the platform to discuss and promote important issues around the world.
The members of Creators for Change work on “impact projects” to raise awareness about things like police brutality, bullying, xenophobia, and racism. The $5 million investment will come in the form of “production and marketing support,” including several production grants, according to YouTube. The company also says it hopes to bring more creators into Creators for Change in 2018.
The fund is a small amount for a company that has an estimated value of $75 billion, but it’s an indication that YouTube wants to put more effort into ensuring its creators use their platforms for good. As Polygon points out, the investment comes just a few months after some members of Creators for Change said it was “disheartening” to see YouTube’s more controversial streamers earning huge amounts of money and views.
“It’s our duty to not promote just the negative, but the positive,” YouTuber Sam Saffold told Polygon in September. “There are so many positive YouTubers who don’t get the attention they deserve.”
YouTube has also been criticized for videos that include hate speech and terrorist propaganda. This summer, the European Union approved a set of proposals that would make companies like YouTube responsible for blocking the hate speech published on their platforms….
Cheer Bear Girl says
So I guess any videos criticizing Islam count as hate speech. Muslims have videos promoting Jihad on social media and these cretins are eerily silent on that.
pdxnag says
Jihad for Allah/Mohammad is anti-hate.
YouTube is screaming it, like Rage Boy.
madpatriot says
Some people have totally LOST any common sense and they are in every level of business,government, life,and cross section of humanity. FREEDOM as defined in America: the Constitution, Life, Liberty, pursuit of our own happiness and free speech. The right to say and be what one wants to be within the guidelines, laws, Faith In God and civilization humans have stood for- for a very long time is freedom ….until more recently in time. We DON’T have to be all the same, agree on what we believe, be the same color, same faith, or live in a certain place to have the right to be free! But we Do have the right o be who we are in our own nations….so DON’T come here to the US and spread your ways here if you are not standing with us and accept who we are….because we do NOT HAVE to listen no matter hat some say. There Are those in our own governemtn that want to make us like Europe and other countries instead of the sovereign and unique nation that we were founded to be and I say they need to get out and go where they can live like that because we don’t want to. We are free to be Americans! Stand for htat or it will be taken away and is being fast because of the outrageousness of ‘political correctness’, so called ‘diversity’ that makes others want their own way in OUR country and just out and out treason to the American way! Patriotism is solid foundation, faith in God is solid foundation, truth is solid
foundation….the rest of the clap trap and nonsense is NOT!
What is truth to one is nto truth to another…what is right to one is totally horrific to a person of Faith in God…there are those that believe in various gods when there is only ONE; the Father, Son and Holy Spirit of Heaven is. So no one group of other people can say what is hate speech when it is the truth ot many others. What is called hate speech is nothing more than others trying to push those of us who truly do try to find the truth in the world and in faith to be something else and they will never win. Freedom is the right to believe whatever one does and accept that others will not feel the same truth but the right to share it in freedom and be able to live around each other without demanding everyone be like them but DO adhere to the laws and sucton sof the host nation!…….politically correct rubbish is nothing but satan pushing evil and this diversity crap is others not accepting the laws and rules of the land they are in. Some are pushing who and what they are on everyone…this is not freedom…that is subjugation and WRONG. Out of many; One=America and means there is a blend of all sorts that accepted our laws, rules and customs and want to be one with us here in OUR nation! That is what it always used to be anyway and now many are trying to change the many to what they want for the few- who have no truth that is acceptable in civilized decent life. That is NOT what is to be and they need to go away or where what they are is accepted for the many; ie. muslims should be in the Middle East where they are as they are and totally against everything we are and believe, instead of pushing their stuff here that we will NEVER accept in freedom! The traitors in America that are pushing their treason against America should be ashamed and leave because one of these days we will have had enough and all hell will hit.
jule says
I was curious. I read the Qur’an/Hadiths. It is full of hate speech. Nazygroups write hate speech against others. Any Supremacy group promotes hate of some other. Turkey puts out Hate speech against Kurds. KKKlan puts out hate speech against black. Hate speech is easy to see for both right and left if they put aside automatic denial. We SHOULD be against Hate Speech calling for genocide, submission, or anyone advocating the loss of Human Rights. Calling to fight Jews till Judgement day is not a right of free speech. Neither is calling for the absence of black or dark colored humans. I don’t how people can get away with saying there is no Hate speech which should not be Publicly distributed. Someone should have stopped Hitler, but no one did. Someone should have stopped Turkey from advocating genocide to Armenians. Someone should stop Islam from advocating subjugation or death to Jews and all non Muslims and the QUR”AN does say it. It TEACHES it. White Supremacism also has to be stopped from spreading just as Jihad must be stopped. Its really clear and easy to see. People should stop BSing themselves.
gravenimage says
jule, much of what is now prosecuted as “hate speech” is just non-violent criticism. Many characterize merely standing against violent Jihad as “hate speech”.
And you are mistaken in believing that everyone is on the same page with this–what is proscuted and what is not is often highly politicized. Hence, prosecution of mild criticism of Islam, while allowing Jihadists to incite attacks on innocent people.
Personally, I think people should be able to say anything they want–even things I passionately disagree with–as long as they are not inciting violence. That–and only that–is where we should draw the line.
elee says
Here’s a hint to what constitutes hate speech: if it’s Muslims quoting their damned scripture about killing Jews infidels and apostates it’s not hate speech, it’s all warm & fuzzy. If someone suggests that the Jews infidels and apostates resist, well, that”s hate speech.
Simple, clear, reliable way to distinguish.
Terry Gain says
God I hate Islam.
Richard says
Much worse than that. If the Jews profess that their religion is the one true one (which they must), that is hate speech. if Christians profess that their religion is the one true one, (which they must), that is hate speech. If someone says there is no God, I imagine that would be allowed. If someone is pro-abortion, that is hate speech (although I would bet it would be allowed). If someone speaks against abortion, that is hate speech. Let’s face it, if you disagree with me on anything whatsoever, it is hate speech. It is like Animal Farm, where “All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.” Welcome to the wonderful world of hate speech!
gravenimage says
If a non-Muslim just cites the violent texts of Islam, that is “hate”.
jule says
Absolutely. A trouble with my Lefty friends is that they have never read it or the (horrible) Hadiths. They just have never checked it out. It takes more one day so they skip it. We are so used to just being on the other side than most on the Right that its habit. Maybe they think its a nice socialist religion like Nazys/White supremacists follow the ugly parts of Social Democracy forged by Hitler. Sometimes I thing my Leftys went so far left around the circle that they ended up very far right and don’t even realize it. Islam is a very very right sided dictatorial life set up for the purpose of Control and Conquer. Modern Capitalism is too but still not as bad as old Islam out of the Qur’an. Its worse than Evangelicals, who do get bad enough but at least they do not order killing people for different beliefs.
USA really needs Universal Human Rights Education. Its tricky when applied to Modern Capitalism or Religion. Tricky but not impossible to figure out.
gravenimage says
jule, you are right that many on the Left assume that criticism of the Qur’an and Hadiths *must* be wrong, since few of them have ever read these texts. Even when confronted with this, most of them will not investigate.
I do disagree with you re Capitalism, though–I don’t consider free trade to be “dicatorial” at all–just the opposite, in fact. And Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty and provided more opportunity than any other economic system.
Redbug says
Oh, I so agree with you. And again, who is to decided what is hae speach and what is not? I would imgaine the woman, wearing the Hajib, in this picture,
would be most impartial, right????
jule says
It really is easier than you say. Hate speech comes from people or groups who advocate genocide, subjugation, inferiority on another human who they do not know such Islam does, Nazys do, White Supremacists do, Turkey did on Armenians and Kurds, US ONCE did on Native Americans, Straight people do on non straight,. Dangerous hate speech that brings fear to others like a Lynch Mob does, is too easy too see. And it comes from both Left and Right.
There is hate speech without true cause and its common sense to hear it & know. Is calling someone a dirty nigger, rag head or goat humper hate speech…..yes. Is explaining what Islam really says hate speech, or showing the great harm of Hitlers Nazygroups hate? .NO. Surely everyone knows the dif.
gravenimage says
If everyone knew the difference we would not see Jihadists openly calling for blood in the streets, nor see those who just criticize such horrors prosecuted.
Terry Gain says
So YouTube is banning the Koran. Such good news on my 71st birthday. I may not have to identify as a black female Muslim after all. I’m finding the burka uncomfortable but I must say the Niqab does a wonderful job of hiding the bags under my eyes and those well earned wrinkles.
LeftisruiningCanada says
😀
Happy infidel birthday to you TG!
gravenimage says
Happy birthday, Terry!
La Peregrina says
Hate crime is a globalist invention to persecute any person that differs from their masonic schema. Hate nor love are feeling; they’re not a crime, abortion is a crime that kills the innocent in a mother’s womb: but they glorify this crime into law for their luciferian agenda. La Peregrina
jule says
Ever hear of a Lynch Mob. Ever been in a group where one person starts a chant, picked up by everyone in the frenzy of the moment like “Kill the dirty Jew” or ‘Hang the Ugly American’ and maybe you happen to be in the group hated? All speech is not free. The Qur’an or Hitlers ideas are good examples of hate Taught to people bringing the most ugly results.
Also we have Copyright laws, Libel/slander laws, death threats or threats to harm are against the law., ‘Fight’n words (whatever they are) are against the Law. We are not an anarchy where Everything goes. We forgot what freedom really means. There is Responsibilities for freedom.
Granddaddy says
Why can’t they just censor what goes to Europe? If Europe wants to be ignorant dhimmis, why does it have to affect us? This doesn’t sound right.
jule says
There is something Very wrong with the EU and Germany. Intended or NOT intended, it has become very dangerous. Countries should back out of it the way it is set up
gravenimage says
Granddaddy, if free speech is completely crushed in Europe, you are *quite* mistaken in thinking it will not affect what is left of the free West.
MFritz says
Translation:
– Hire BLM, SPLC and CAIR as “consultants” for “white suppremacy”, “racism” and “islamophobia”
– Ban all white “CIS” males from YouTube because of “patriarchy” and “rape culture”.
– Search only content by white people to have more reasons to ban them. Because only whites can be racist.
– Introduce racial quotas that no more white people can register and/or upload videos until an equal number of “other” ethnicities have registered.
– Consider all Asian people to be “white” too and act accordingly.
– Keep on ignoring all videos in Arabic.
Mission accomplished!
LeftisruiningCanada says
Yep, about sums it up.
I bet not a single one in that photo up top believes in anything like the first and second amendments.
jule says
Those amendments are nothing in the face of Islam, KKKlan, Nazys. They only seem to give them the wrong idea to go ahead. Be careful reading those Amendments. They do not mean what people think today. Read them carefully and THINK.
gravenimage says
jule, you are very mistaken if you think that discarding our rights of free speech and self defence are going to protect us.
And your idea that there is no defence against Nazism and the Klan if we have freedom of speech is also mistaken. Good people *exposed* these ugly groups, and now they have incredibly low membership rates and no power or credibility.
The same is true with Islam if enough people learn what a threat it represents.
What do you think Jihad Watch is for?
LeftisruiningCanada says
Don’t be shy, what do you think they mean then?
slowguy says
I saw the headline and, just for a second, thought “Wow, great!”
But then I realized it’s probably not directed at the Muslim community.
Graeme Howarth says
You Tube is run by hypocrites, liars & propagandists. For several months I have been denied to ability to comment on You Tube. Many emails sent asking why – no response received.
I have been able to respond to comments already posted though, but these are being monitored & at times deleted.
For example, I responded to a question on what the term “Son of Man” meant in reference to Jesus. A “helpful” Muslim had muddied the waters so I took quite a while formulating a measured response based on Biblical material. I checked back later to see if there had been any further comments and not only could I not find my comment, the whole thread had disappeared. They had buried it somehow or deleted it. No answer from YT as to why of course.
So it seems I am on a List on YT (along with at least one other news site I sometimes try to comment on).
This is sounding increasingly like Communist China where “harmony” is the one thing the government will insist upon in order to trump all dissenting opinions. Nothing is more important than harmony. Harmony based on a series of lies is far more preferable than the truth. Or even one person’s divergent opinion.
It’s funny if it wasn’t so pathetic that the “YT Spotlight” channel posts videos on things like how we need to embrace the Muslim migrant influx which get massively voted down and a huge amount of negative comments. I’ve watched YT remove the down votes day to day and delete the most popular negative comments to make their videos look better.
So now we rightly expect them to lie without shame, manipulate figures and delete any dissenting opinion – and all for “the greater good” – while they keep bleating about giving everyone a voice.
gravenimage says
Sorry to hear this–but, unfortunately, not suprised.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Interesting Graeme, thanks for the info.
Like your blog by the way.
Don says
Just like Nazi Germany.
thesailor says
Or as Juvenal put it: “Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?”
In English: “Who will guard us from the guards?”, to which the answer, in my view, is Freedom of Speech. Without that, society is so repressive as to be worthless.
gravenimage says
Spot on.
Don says
Muslims don’t believe in freedom of speech. They are an uneducated mass that believes only males have rights, and if you are not a believer of Islam, your nothing, and don’t deserve to live. Yet, we allow these people to come here to the USA. Yet, they refuse to accumulate, don’t want to become American Citizens, and demand every in the name of their god Allah.
As the Supreme Court has stated, Islam is not compatible with Our Consitution, our laws, or our way of Life. They also stated that Islam is not to be taught in any Public Grade School, High School, or Public College. Yet the Liberals do it anyway.
You put the blame for this influx on the Democratic Party, and Our first ever self-confessed Muslim, and lair in chief. He didn’t follow the Inmmragtions laws of not 1952, which is still the law we have today, that forbids Muslims from coming into this country, and stated that Islam isn’t compatible with our way of life.
If the Immigration Laws were enforced we won’t have this discussion now. As for Hate Speech, Senator Rubio met with a Muslims Terrorist, and he gave him a list of demands regarding protections, to cover antimulism Hate Speech. He wrote up a bill submitted it to the Senate, and the Senate approved it, without any dissent against it. President Obama, a self proclaimed Muslim, signed it into law.
So now it’s illegal to make any comments towards Islam and Muslims. That’s where the Hate Speech Protection comes from. As well, they can say anything they want and they do. They tell us we don’t come here to become Americans, we come here to conquer you and to kill you and make America, a land for all Muslims, in the name of Islam and their god Alla.
The FBI Cheif Officer for the Detroit area issued a warning that attacks by Terrorist Jihadist have increased all across the United States. He stated that we can no longer set back and let Law Enforcement do all of the work. It’s time for all Americans to be on the alert 24/7, and to report any activity that seems to be a threat to the United States, Your State, and your Community. We are in this fight together all of us.
So Heads Up Americans! Start contacting your representatives, your police, AJCA.Org for help fight for your rights! Forget the ACLU there not interested in anyone rights, just their own agenda.
jule says
And someone really MUST surveil the Mosques who read this stuff and encourage obedience to the lying Words of Allah.
gravenimage says
Very much agree, jule.
jule says
Yes, but I think it is very wrong to have a Qur’an, said to be the words of Allah, which says Jews (and Christians) need to be replaced by Muslims because Allah has cursed them, and all Abraham now belongs to Muslims. Muslims who will Punish anyone else not Muslim. It says it in their Qur’an/Hadiths and it is TAUGHT to millions of people. That is definitely wrong. So was Hitlers’ Manifestos taught to many as THE Way. Some things just must be against the Law when they cause (or call for) great harm to others. Or the ideology which professes male pedophilia and pornography is Fine and allowed. Some things Must be against the Law FOR real Human Rights.
DHazard says
Open the Quran to any random page. Find a verse about how much Allah hates non-believers and apostates and what their punishment is. But change the wording a little to be more like modern English. Then post it somewhere in the Google universe. Let them call it hate speech. Then make another post about how Google thinks the Quran contains hate speech. That, of course, would be taken down immediately. The greatest sin in the new world of leftist cyber nannies is revealing them for their blatant double standards and hypocrisy.
Don says
Facebook has been doing the same thing – any negative comment about Muslims, even if it is proven to be true, is removed, because the comments don’t meet their Community Standards. Then they give you a time out for 24 hours the first time, keep it up and you could be banned from Facebook altogether.
jule says
I am one on the Left who absolutely agrees. Because I was curious enough to actually read the thing.
But its the same with Nazygroups whose spread is dangerous and surprising in USA. Some things have to be against the law for the Safety of all people. Mental, Physical, emotional Safety. KKKlan, Nazys, Islam make people mentally ill and cause great damage to the spirit of Human beings
gravenimage says
We didn’t have to make Nazism and the Klan illegal–we just needed to discredit them–and we have.
Concerned American Christian Woman says
Can we make an alternate to YouTube somehow? I do not have that ability but I wish someone who did would build a new free speech version of YouTube.
We need people to stand up. It is spiritual warfare against the progressive mentality. There are millions of us who refuse to let other people’s mental disorders be our new reality.
One more thing. I was on YouTube trying to leave a comment and I could not. It was a Muslim Indonesian claiming no crimes against Christians were being committed. I wanted to post a recent crime against a Christian minister but it wouldn’t post. My comment was 100% factual with no rhetoric or insult.
Also, is there another e-mail service anyone recommends? I want to be done with my gmail. I want to cut YouTube and gmail out of my life completely.
gravenimage says
There are alternatives to YouTube–Vimeo is probably the best known:
“Top 10 Best Alternatives To YouTube”
https://www.thetoptens.com/best-alternatives-youtube/
Mind you, I don’t know their policies on freedom of speech. This gives you someplace to start, though.
Don says
Check out http://WWW.Yahoo.com. I wouldn’t recommend MSN. MSN is a complete joke. Being charge every year for a membership, while they do nothing for the past 8 years to fix their servers, their E-mail service, and the continuous ongoing problem with any of their Browsers is a complete Joke. Explorer must shut down, or Out of memory must shut down or it will freeze up and the only way to get out of it is to restart your computer. I have has MSN support fix these issues time and time again and it goes right back to the same issues. Last time I called MSN support the IT Tech told me that I can fix your computer and all that is wrong with it, However, it won’t last, MSN hasn’t fixed the problems and Microsoft are well aware of the issues with MSN but refuses to fix it or update its program. So I said to him, then why I’m I paying MSN Membership for years, and the program is JUNK. So I’m leaving, $179.00 a year, not anymore. I hate Microsoft, and I don’t like how their programs take over your computer. It is going to be interesting to find out, I’m not giving them any more money period
Another one is http://www.AOL.Com – ist free, but if you want good protection pay for it it’s worth it. If not you’re taking your changes and you better have some great Anti-spyware, Anti-Virus, and Malware, because the free version is full of it, and in the free setup, there is no support for major issues with AOL.
Good Luck!
Don
LeftisruiningCanada says
Rly?
Lydia Church says
Ah, and let me guess…. their combat of ‘hate’ and promotion of ‘tolerance’ is only inverted because it means that they will be endorsing islam and anti-Christian views while censoring Christian views and any criticism of islam!
So they will only be increasing the agenda they are already guilty of…
Indiana Tom says
“YouTube is investing $5 million in creators who ‘counter hate and promote tolerance, by creating committees to promote hate and intolerance of Conservative Christians. The new organization will be called the Ministry of Love.
jule says
People must remember there are many things we Must NOT tolerate. Think about it.
CRUSADER says
Saudis have this beat by $57 million prize for best looking camel, including use of botox.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/24/saudi-arabian-camel-owners-caught-injecting-botox-bid-win-25m/
HA !!!!
gravenimage says
Now that is hilarious. Saudi Arabia has “beauty contests” for livestock, but not for women. Draw your own conclusions…
jule says
careful. We have 4-H, Denmark has brothels with pigs and chickens. DENMARK.! I got stuck at a biker convention in USA and some guy did it to his Dog, Its a sick world in general when it comes to sex. (But the Botox thing is funny, I have to admit)
gravenimage says
jule wrote:
careful. We have 4-H, Denmark has brothels with pigs and chickens. DENMARK.!
……………………………..
You cannot have sex with a chicken without harming–indeed, killing–the poor animal. Hence, this was always illegal there.
But Denmark has plugged this ommision in their laws, in any case:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/32411241/denmark-passes-law-to-ban-bestiality
And your idea that 4-H–which teaches children about animal husbandry–advocates for bestiality is misguided. It does not.
More:
I got stuck at a biker convention in USA and some guy did it to his Dog,
……………………………..
This kind of bestiality is formally illegal in almost every state. Did you report this abuse?
Charlie says
Let youtube hire them. Make them engage in debate, not censorship. Facts matter more than emotion, and they need to be trained to recognize that facts should never be censored. If they slide the slippery slope of controlling the conversation through censorship, then that violation of the first amendment will need to elicit an anti-trust response.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Hey, hadn’t you heard?!
Being angry at (“hateful” towards) criminals is now the most vile sin, while pitying (“tolerating”) them all as “fellow victims,” is to be deemed the highest moral virtue, these days!
It’s a global attempt to control our thinking through an emotional, sub-conscious “narrative” – so much so, that the only advice we hear from “our” hypocrite governments, their pet media, and the corporazi globalist banksters who own them all, seems to invariably be:
“Anyone who doesn’t automatically pity all criminals as fellow victims should be hated!”
Which is why hurting the feelings of criminals by accusing them of their crimes, is now a “hateful” crime itself!
When one doesn’t have facts on one’s side (no criminal can rationally or logically justify their “crime is good – for me, because you all do it, too!” stance) one only has emotions left, and defending hurt feelings and “dignity” doesn’t rely on cause and effect sequencing (where crime is defined as attacking thereby innocent other first).
But feelings or emotions aren’t thoughts, much less morals – because unlike facts, they can be wrong: one may love an enemy who is still out to get one, and hate someone who is only trying to help – no, instead, our emotions are mere reflections of the three basic states of space-time (the static past, the fluid present, and the nebulous future, respectively): static fear, fluid greed, nebulous hope. Not exactly worth defending with one’s life!
gravenimage says
Sometimes it is even worse, Jay Boo–when the truth is revealed, the teller is vilified, fired from their job, or even prosecuted.
tgusa says
Hate I can deal with, doesn’t phase me one bit. It’s the murder and sexual assault that I cant tolerate but then again, I’m no youtube. Thank God.
LR says
I was bummed when I heard YouTube banned the ‘Dr. Of Common Sense’ a couple months back….He is so darn funny…And boy, does he love to rant! I think it was appropo, when I read one commenter describe him as a combo of Archie Bunker, Fred Sanford, and Richard Pryor.
Here is someone else videoing a couple of his videos…It’s about our right to free speech, and when the Secret Service came to visit him…(“Very Nice young men”).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gNx6pzph2UM
‘We are at War’…(The communists, the Mooslims, and the Homosexual Mafia).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NTfA950FteQ
Come on YouTube…Grow a pair! And get a sense of humour for god’s sake! You’re taking yourselves MUCH to seriously. You heard it from ‘the man’. The Secret Service couldn’t even tell him he couldn’t say he, “Wanted to pistol whip the President” (Not a direct enough threat I guess).