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At Vatican, Erdogan asks Pope to help lead “concerted and continuous international effort to fight Islamophobia”

Feb 6, 2018 10:36 am By Robert Spencer

Pope Francis loves Erdogan: he gave him 50 minutes, not the usual 30 he accords to world leaders.

“Erdoğan discussed the plight of the Christians [sic] minorities in the Middle East and promised to mobilize Turkish support to help them in every possible way, just as the Ottomans did in their 600-year history.”

In reality, the Christians in the Ottoman Empire suffered the institutionalized discrimination and harassment of dhimmitude, punctuated with occasional open persecution. I detail this at length in my next book, The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS, which is scheduled to be out this summer.

“This of course brought the president to the issue of the rising tide of Islamophobia in the West. He asked the pontiff to help Muslims and stand up to this situation, which could turn into a disaster in most areas of Western Europe. The problem that started as xenophobia has mushroomed into enmity toward all Muslims, especially in Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Austria and France. The Vatican has also drawn attention to the problem, but Turkey wants a concerted and continuous international effort to fight Islamophobia.”

“Islamophobia” is used to refer to persecution of innocent Muslims, which is never justified, as well as to honest analysis of how jihadis use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence and oppression, as I explain in my last book, Confessions of an Islamophobe. The conflation of the two acts as a tool to restrict the freedom of speech and bring the public discourse in the West into line with Sharia blasphemy laws. Pope Francis is unlikely to have any problem with this, since it has been on his watch that the falsehood that Islam is a Religion of Peace has become a superdogma in the Catholic Church: a Catholic can dissent openly and freely from every element of the Nicene Creed and any other dogma of the Catholic Church, and remain a Catholic in good standing. But if a Catholic suggests that Islam is not a Religion of Peace, he will be subjected to organized campaigns from the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops to make sure he has no platform in Catholic circles and, if possible, anywhere else.

Pope Francis and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops are a disgrace to the Church, to Judeo-Christian civilization, and to the free world.

“Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)

“Turkey, Vatican agree on Jerusalem,” by İlnur Çevik, Daily Sabah, February 6, 2018:

President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan met with Pope Francis at the Vatican and discussed the status of Jerusalem at length. This is history in the making. It is the first ever visit by a Turkish head of state to the Vatican after Turkey and the Holy See established diplomatic relations in 1960. President Celal Bayar visited the Vatican in 1959 and opened the way for the establishment of these relations.

Erdoğan spearheaded the Islamic world’s action at the United Nations General Assembly to oppose the decision by U.S. President Donald Trump to declared Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and that the U.S. will move its embassy from Tel Aviv to this ancient city. The move also received support from the pope, the spiritual leader of Catholics around the globe.

The Vatican says Jerusalem, which is a major holy city for the Muslims, Christians and Jews, should be granted a special status where people of all religions can worship freely. Thus, it is opposed to the city becoming exclusively a Jewish entity where Muslims and Christians are left to the whims of the Jews.

Turkey agrees with the Vatican and says Jerusalem could be the joint capital of Israel and Palestine.

But Jerusalem was not the only issue on the agenda. Erdoğan explained the reasons why Turkey had to launch Operation Olive Branch in the northwestern Syrian region of Afrin just across the Turkish border. Ankara hopes to secure the support of the Vatican on Afrin with the explanation that it is not invading another country, but is rather actively striving to cleanse the area of terrorists and allow suffering Syrian civilians to go back to their homes. Turkey evicted Daesh terrorists of from its border in Operation Euphrates Shield and turned the region into a safe haven for Syrians. It aims to do the same in Afrin.

Besides this, the Vatican had lauded Turkey’s efforts to end the massacre of the Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar. The Vatican had also applauded Turkey for the way took in 3,5 million Syrians fleeing the civil war in their country for the past six years and has spent $30 billion on them.

Erdoğan discussed the plight of the Christians [sic] minorities in the Middle East and promised to mobilize Turkish support to help them in every possible way, just as the Ottomans did in their 600-year history.

This of course brought the president to the issue of the rising tide of Islamophobia in the West. He asked the pontiff to help Muslims and stand up to this situation, which could turn into a disaster in most areas of Western Europe. The problem that started as xenophobia has mushroomed into enmity toward all Muslims, especially in Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Austria and France. The Vatican has also drawn attention to the problem, but Turkey wants a concerted and continuous international effort to fight Islamophobia.

Erdoğan found an attentive ear at the Vatican….

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Comments

  1. Mac-101 says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 11:09 am

    The Pope and the Caliphate. Didn’t the Pope sit back with Glee when Constantinople got sacked by the Muslims and the Byzantines were enslaved?

    • CRUSADER says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 12:14 pm

      There are GIFTS to be found in rational FEAR !

      Survival for one thing.

      Greater proportion of Life affirmation.

      Heightened Awareness.

      Sense of Self.

      Care for Others.

      Appreciation of Mortality.

      • Garfield says

        Feb 6, 2018 at 8:33 pm

        +1

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 3:47 pm

      The West certainly should have done much more to join with Byzantium and defend against the invading Muslims.

    • Wellington says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 6:51 pm

      No, Mac-101, the Pope at the time, Nicholas V (1447-1455), did not “sit back with Glee” (your words, not mine) when Constantinople fell. Indeed, he had actually sent naval forces to prevent this calamity, but it was too late and like virtually all of Western Europe he was mortified by the fall of the eastern capital of the Roman Empire which Constantine had founded in the early fourth century.

      Before this tragic fall, Nicholas has actually done a great deal to bring Byzantine scholars to Italy (as had Popes Martin V and Eugenius IV before him had) in order to preserve the great heritage of what the ancient Greeks had wrought. He is responsible for a good bit of said preservation as well as being the pontiff who began the Vatican Library, one of the greatest libraries to this day anywhere on earth.

      And I don’t think the Federal Reserve was in anyway involved in the Fall of Constantinople, as it most assuredly was in JFK’s assassination, but who knows, eh?

      • Mac-101 says

        Feb 6, 2018 at 7:12 pm

        I remember the Venetians coming to the assistance of the Byzantines. Not so much the rest of Italy or Europe. But it’s been years since I read of it.

        • Joe says

          Feb 7, 2018 at 5:26 am

          In the accounts that I read, the most significant western force in Constantinople at the time of the fall was English.

        • Mac-101 says

          Feb 7, 2018 at 7:07 am

          Really, in the 15th century? It is sure evident that the British did ALL they could to defeat the remaining Byzantine/Orthodox remnants in the 19th and 20th century, supporting the Ottomans over the Russians. Recon I need to git back into da books. Unfortunately current events move so fast now it is impossible to keep up with them. let alone the past.

    • Flavius Claudius Iulianus says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 7:32 pm

      “Didn’t the Pope sit back with Glee when Constantinople got sacked by the Muslims and the Byzantines were enslaved?”

      No.

    • DV says

      Feb 7, 2018 at 12:24 am

      “Didn’t the Pope sit back with Glee when Constantinople got sacked by the Muslims and the Byzantines were enslaved?”

      No. Check Robert’s Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades).

    • Richard says

      Feb 7, 2018 at 2:39 am

      The Turks were wonderful to Christians in their Empire. Putting aside the butchering of the Armenians, when women leapt off cliffs with babies in their arms, preferring death to what the Turks had in store for them, Christian towns paid a tax in their children, – Little boys who were taken by the Turks, castrated and made into Janissaries, the most feared part of the Turkish armies. Not that Arab Muslims fared all that much better. A posted blog by a Turk a few years ago referred to Arabs as “animals.” Oh, what a wonderful future the Turkish Spring will bring!

    • Lia says

      Feb 7, 2018 at 7:13 am

      And Pope Francis said: ‘Sure my man! Of course! delighted to help!’ Or not?

  2. Gjallarhornet says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 11:13 am

    If the pope had any spine, he would address publicly on this occasion the conditions for Christian practice in muslim countries. Not just the persecution christians suffer in many countries, but also the restrictions on christians possibility to preach, convert and – for new converts – practice their new faith openly.
    This is all systematically constricted in the muslim world. Even in a country like Morocco where the local can covert, if he or she chooses, it is forbidden to ‘proselyte’. Meaning that conversion will almost never happen, since there is nobody telling inhabitants of anything other than islam. This is one the most liberal countries on the subject. Most of the others opt for far harsher measures.
    Point is, that this a systematic curtailment of a basic human right, an offense that should offend western christians and atheists all alike. It also demonstrates the hypocrisy of the muslim world: human rights is a concept reduced to a hammer with which to bludgeon westerners and obtain privileges, while enforcing human rights at home counts for nothing. That’s why i never listen to a muslim talking about human rights: if human rights are so important for him as he claims, he should immediately start working for more religious freedom in the muslim world. THERE is where the main bulk of human rights abuse lies. Otherwise, the position is just a sham.

    A pope that ignores the religious constraints in the region, fails Christianity, human rights as well as us all.

    This a far more serious problem than something that is just affecting christians – the endemic boa-grip on the mind impedes the introduction of something else than islamic mentality in islamic countries.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 3:54 pm

      Fine post, Gjallarhornet. And Muslims don’t just treat Christians like second-class citizens, but any Infidels. Look at the plight of Hindus and Sikhs as well as Christians in places like Pakistan.

      • Gjallarhornet says

        Feb 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

        Its true – any infidel. Hindus and non-monotheists are actually worse off than christians if they are in a minority.

        • Gjallarhornet says

          Feb 6, 2018 at 4:13 pm

          But my main concern is still that the muslim countires *block* our access to spread outlook other than the islamic world view in their midst.

          In my view, a very heavy thrust of pressure should be applied to them by the western world here. “You want x from us? Fine, but you must open up for Christian missionaries, western blogs and western friendly press in your country. Otherwise, no deal”.

          They’ll cave in the end. And once we have access to spread what we will in these countries, we’ll do so.

  3. Bill says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 11:35 am

    Jorge Mario Bergoglio is a Communist posing as a Cleric. He reminds me a bit of feckless former President Reverend Jimmy Carter. Each of them never met a murderous dictator that they did not become enamored with..

    • Stacy Girl says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 4:53 pm

      The pope: he doesn’t know his flock, and his flock doesn’t know him.

  4. elee says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 11:40 am

    Did the Pope pay Erdogan jizya? Erdogan’s party says Erdogan will be caliph by 2023. Maybe his holiness was negotiating a payment schedule. Remember, Holiness, that you have to not only pay jizya but accept public humiliation in the process.

    • utis says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 11:49 am

      That image of the handshake is jizya enough: PR jizya. It will be shown every the neo-Ottomans want to look like the acknowledge Friend-O-The-West.

      • kabooooooooooooooooooooom says

        Feb 6, 2018 at 5:12 pm

        At least Frankie the bastard ain’t washing erdygang’s feet as most of the recent photos Iv’e seen of Frankie show him doing. I’m Catholic and disavow this usurper as leader of my Church.

        Notice the “priest” in the background? Looks more like a bodyguard (muscular with groomed military style haircut).and eyes on erdygang. In my entire life I’ve never seen a Priest looking this fit and situation aware.

  5. No Muzzies Here says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 11:58 am

    This pope is a disgrace. He is playing for the wrong team.

    • CRUSADER says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 12:11 pm

      Useful Idiot of the Highest Order

      • Pong says

        Feb 7, 2018 at 6:58 am

        No, he is not a “useful idiot”. Pope knows what he is doing and in many ways he continues policies of J-P II. This pope just made one step further. Anti-semitism of islam is welcomed in catholic church. It isn’t an accident that poland, the most catholic country in Europe, is also the most anti-semitic one. As a result the pope must keep quiet about moslem atrocities against christians in moslem majority countries. To be an anti-semite and anti-jihadi at the same time requires too much of mental balancing. Robert rightly have pointed out that it is really impossible to be both. To call the pope a “useful idiot” is to give him some benefit of the doubt. He knows well what he is doing and what he is doing it for.

  6. Gjallarhornet says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 12:06 pm

    What’s wrong with a healthy amount of islamophobia? Islam – do you have to dig it or what?

    • CRUSADER says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 12:09 pm

      precisely.

      I’m proud to be wary of spiders, centipedes, scorpions, sharks, cockroaches, bandits and thieves, and Islamists….

  7. utis says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 12:10 pm

    That picture alone gave me the heaves. Then the text about 600 years of Ottomans “helping” Christians in every way. Yeah, helping them to give up their land and possessions to the Sultan and Caliph, helping their daughters to honorable marriages as sex slaves, helping their sons to serve as slaves. Check out a non-PC description of the “devsirme” and the Janissaries. The Ottomans called the Balkan Christians “raya” (sheep); don’t bother with the Wiki taqiya dance around that one. [By the way, I have no Balkan ancestors — no axe there, just research].

    Even if it’s a pathetic attempt at peace at any price, some of that price is Christian lives and dignity. I know worldly leaders dismiss “collateral damage” and “necessary loss.” Check out the Catholic Church and its relation to 20th century fascism. How many died because of that equivocating?

    I’m getting your book, Robert, just to freshen up on things I read decades ago.

    • CRUSADER says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 12:15 pm

      Very visceral, isn’t it?

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 4:10 pm

      Good post, utis.

  8. Tom says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 12:38 pm

    Francis is a Wolf in Pope’s clothing.
    This guy is no Christian, he is nothing more than a leftist puppet that is in tune with Soros’ open borders and one world order philosophy.

    Francis is not to be trusted by Catholics for he will sell them, and all christians, down the river at the drop of a hat.

    If ever there is an Anti Christ then Francis is number one in my book.

    • Bill says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 2:27 pm

      Absolutely. Communism is his religion. His patron saints are Che, Fidel, Josef and Mao.

      • Phil Copson says

        Feb 7, 2018 at 9:02 pm

        “Absolutely. Communism is his religion. His patron saints are Che, Fidel, Josef and Mao.”

        Pope Zero “Fidels” while Rome burns…

  9. warmac9999 says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 1:04 pm

    The Pope is trying to walk and unworkable line. All too soon, the Catholic Church will have to stand against the tide of Islam or succumb to its violence and depravity. Francis is the wrong guy as what is needed is a fighting Pope not an appeasing Pope.

    • Billy Chickens says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 9:48 pm

      Trump for pope!

  10. Older Canadian says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 1:09 pm

    Erdogan is clever. An alliance with the all too willing pope will eradicate catholics faster than any war.

    Or perhaps that is the plan. United we stand divided we fall.

  11. Benedict says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 2:11 pm

    Get rid of Islam and islamophobia will disappear like dew in the sunlight together with a lot of other unpleasant things.

  12. Bloggerd says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 2:35 pm

    The Pope was asked to help spread Islam.

    • Super Nova500 says

      Feb 7, 2018 at 7:05 pm

      This Pope is showing himself to be a traitor to Christians in his advocating for Islam & the way he’s been making anti- Christian comments in general. This Jesuit Pope appears to be pushing for a ONE WORLD Religion…. Spoken of in Revelation 17:1-18 and WARNING that “The false religion will dominate all the multitudes and Nations of the Earth” & have universal Authority given by the Antichrist. Islam is a violent ideology from a warlord as opposed to a peace loving/speaking Jesus Christ.

  13. Jerry Zavage says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 2:37 pm

    So Caliph Erdogan recently told Turkish Islam adherents “You are the future of Europe” he also told them that each Islamic family in Europe should have five children (in Turkey three children). These are clearly Islamic supremacists’ stated plans to destroy Western Civilization. This Pope recently told Catholic Christians ” You don’t need to have all those children.” This Pope makes Neville Chamberlain, who essentially surrendered to the Nazis in 1938, look like a hero of Western Civilization’s progress. The Pope is evil, ignorant, or sick or two of more of these. The Cardinals need to remove him. I stopped donating to the Catholic Church because of its support for Islamic Supremacy and disregard for Western Civilization. I donate to the Orthodox church now.

    • Billy Chickens says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 9:51 pm

      I give directly to the poor man begging on the street corner on my way to Mass every Sunday.

  14. Charlie Dumaurier says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 2:59 pm

    One would be best advised to deal cautiously with Erdogan’s Turkey. Turkey is critical for any chance of peace in the Middle East. Alienating Turkey will have very bad consequences for the West. A solution must be found that works for both the Syrian Kurds and Turks. After that, there can be a positive role for Turkey. Turkey is the counterbalance to the threat from Iran. If things go well in Turkey and good relations are maintained with the West, it will undermine the unpopular regime in Iran. It’s not all black and white, good and bad. One has to appreciate the nuances and be strategic.

    • Flavius Claudius Iulianus says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 7:38 pm

      I couldn’t disagree with you more. Appeasement has never worked against Mohammadism.

      • Billy Chickens says

        Feb 6, 2018 at 9:53 pm

        Correct. Give the devil and inch and he will take a mile.

  15. Salome says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 3:25 pm

    Janissaries, anyone?

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 3:32 pm

      +1

  16. Westman says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 3:37 pm

    ” Ankara hopes to secure the support of the Vatican on Afrin with the explanation that it is not invading another country, but is rather actively striving to cleanse the area of terrorists…”

    Translation: Erdogan is trying to kill Kurds wherever he finds them, including those working for US interests, in the hope they will give up the idea of creating their own nation.

    So, the real message from Erdogan is: “Shame the Europeans and look the other way while I murder the Kurds.”

    It has a kind of late 1930’s ring to it.

  17. mortimer says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 3:43 pm

    Thank you for this, Mr. Spencer:

    “In reality, the Christians in the Ottoman Empire suffered the institutionalized discrimination and harassment of dhimmitude, punctuated with occasional open persecution.”

    EVERYONE should memorize that phrase.

  18. gravenimage says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 3:45 pm

    At Vatican, Erdogan asks Pope to help lead “concerted and continuous international effort to fight Islamophobia”
    ……………………..

    In other words, no one should be allowed to recognize the savagery of Islam.

    More:

    “Erdoğan discussed the plight of the Christians [sic] minorities in the Middle East and promised to mobilize Turkish support to help them in every possible way, just as the Ottomans did in their 600-year history.”
    ……………………..

    Like during the Armenian Genocide, where an estimated 1.5 million Armenian, Greek, Assyrian, and Levantine Christians were slaughtered, and an additonal half million driven out, rendering Turkey almost entirely Muslim?

    Christians went from 20% of the population to about 5.5% at the end of the genocidal violence in the 1920s. There were further pogroms in the 1950s. As it stands now, Turkey is just about 0.2% Christian–around 160,000 people in the whole country.

    That Pope Francis accpted this perverse statement from Erdogan uncritically shows what a dhimmi tool he is.

  19. CRUSADER says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 4:17 pm

    Pamela Geller comic relief….
    ———————————-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1PWmtBV-Tg&t=2153s

    TeamAmerica — Pamela Geller: The Dangers of Radical Islam youtube

    Pamela Geller presents the dangers of radical Islam at an event hosted by Tom Tancredo and Team America PAC in Denver, CO.

  20. Marco says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    Don’t forget Frankie said the Muslims worship the same God we do. He is a collaborator and he is not a Christian. He will lead Christians to thier death smiling every step. This is so very frightening.

    • Lydia Church says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 4:51 pm

      Precisely.

      I wish I could say more.

      And I’m sure he will be more than willing to accommodate the request, as he is already doing!

  21. mortimer says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 4:48 pm

    MESSAGE TO POPE FRANCIS: “THE BIBLE IS A ZIONIST BOOK”

    JERUSALEM ISRAEL IN THE BIBLE

    How many times does Israel occur in New Testament?
    A: The words ‘Israel’ and ‘Israelite’ occur 77 times in the New Testament.

    How many times does Jerusalem occur in the New Testament?
    A:Jerusalem occurs 146 times in the New Testament and its synonym Zion occurs 7 times.

    How many times does Israel occur in the Old Testament?
    A: Jerusalem (and its alternative Hebrew names “Zion”, City of David, City of the Great King, Salem) appear 850 times in the Old Testament. Jerusalem is of supreme importance as the homeland of the Israelites.

    Moreover, the phrase ‘from Dan to Beersheba’… which refers to the territories contained in Israel … occurs 9 times in the Old Testament.
    Jerusalem is mentioned by name 52 times in the complete Bible.

    How many times is Jerusalem mentioned in the Koran?
    A:Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran. The Koran has no concern whatsoever about Israel. The focus of the Koran is Forbidden Mosque and its location is not named. The Umayyads tried (unsuccessfully) to change the religious center from Mecca/Medina to Jerusalem.

    How many times is ‘Israel’ mentioned in the Koran?
    A: The name Israel is mentioned 46 times in the Koran.’The Children of Israel’ are mentioned 20 times in the Quran. In other words, in every instance in the Quran in which the word “Israel” occurs, it is in only in this specific context, proving that Islam deems Israel the indigenous territory of the Jewish people—their rightful inheritance and property, sacrosanct. The name Palestine occurs zero times. That is food for thought for those fighting to create Palestine, when the ‘eternal, perfect, complete’ book’ of Allah only mentions Israel. Not only that, Allah specifically bestows the land to Moses and his people only and specifically commands the ‘Banu Israil’ to ‘dwell in the Land’. (Koran 5:20–25) And remember, Allah makes NO mistakes or omissions.

    How many times is Palestine mentioned in the Koran?
    A: Palestine is not mentioned once in the Koran. The author of the Koran seems only refers to ‘Israel’.

    Did the qibla (direction of prayer) ever face towards Jerusalem?
    A: No, never. All the early mosques face towards PETRA in southern Jordan and never towards Jerusalem. The idea that Mohammed prayed towards Jerusalem is not confirmed by any external evidence. It is clear that Arabs prayed towards their pagan holy city of Petra where there were kept the idols of Dhu Shara (the war god) and of Allat (the Arabian mother goddess). Mohammed’s tribe worshipped ‘ALLAT’ (Kora=Greek for ‘maiden’). The Koraysh tried was named for the GODDESS it worshipped at Petra, NOT JERUSALEM.

    When did Jerusalem take on any importance to Muslims?
    A:Jerusalem only took on interest to Muslims when the infamous Nazi Mufti Mohammed Amin al-Husseini promoted the genocidal 1920s myth that “Jews are destroying Al Aqsa”, thus taking it away the shadows of irrelevance it had for centuries. The Mufti was a friend of Hitler, Himmler and Adolf Eichmann and encouraged their genocidal extermination of Jews.

    • Lydia Church says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 4:53 pm

      It is a demonic interest.

  22. Kay says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 5:01 pm

    Let’s see what the Pope says later.

    Unless I am mistaken, he has not listened to his own people in China and is betraying the Church to the government there.

    • Kay says

      Feb 8, 2018 at 12:15 am

      Well, I see it again on Breitbart. If true it should come out on another source. I can’t even express my disgust if the Pope actually sold out the true Church to the Communists. No integrity.

  23. CRUSADER says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 5:32 pm

    Pope Francis 1 is definitely a Socialist of first order, and he has bought into the propagandists of Islam.

    Islam is against the ruthlessness of capitalism, of colonialism, and of course it promotes theocracy and the notion of monotheism, and the right of those in position to tell the masses how to behave.

    The Vatican could merge with such a Force.
    Particularly if Catholics come to believe that Islam “honors” Jesus….

  24. Champ says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 6:11 pm

    “In this 7 minutes clip from the 2 hour teaching, I show why prophecy teachers have missed it by focusing on Europe instead of Turkey” …

    • Champ says

      Feb 6, 2018 at 6:12 pm

      You may also watch the complete 2 hour teaching at: http://discover.org.au/bookshop/index…

  25. Eric jones says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 6:45 pm

    So Francis loves Erdogan. No surprise, Francis the ex bouncer and Erdogan the jihadist. One thug loves another. Erdogan could not have found a more willing recruit than Francis. Yes Turkey will protect Christians the same way Dillinger protected banks. I hope Francis asked for good pay. Maybe Erdogan will make Francis an honorary grand Imam to match Francic’s high Catholic rank. Yikes, it only gets worse!

    Eric

  26. Matthieu Baudin says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 8:08 pm

    What a pathetic ‘sell out’ this Pope has proven to be.

  27. MFritz says

    Feb 6, 2018 at 11:47 pm

    Translation: “Until we turn your churches into mosques, you may help us by silencing our critics!”

    Yeah, Francis, Erdogan is your best “friend”. Criminals and dictators always need expendable idiots that do their bidding.

  28. Green Infidel says

    Feb 7, 2018 at 1:52 am

    Ottoman support for Christians – does he mean boys being kidnapped to become janissaries? Or maybe women kidnapped for harems? Or is he referring to the mass murder of Armenians in early 20th century?

    On the positive side – if the Pope spends so much time with Erdogan, surely he must agree that he’s a benevolent leader who couldn’t possibly be turning his country into a hellhole – and hence it shouldn’t be an outrage – indeed, it should be an honour – for “refugees” to be sent back to his great country, Turkey?

  29. Gjallarhornet says

    Feb 7, 2018 at 3:09 am

    The painter of this portrait of the pope and his torments bears the fitting name “Bacon”.
    How apt.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/56/Study_after_Velazquez%27s_Portrait_of_Pope_Innocent_X.jpg

  30. FYI says

    Feb 7, 2018 at 6:32 am

    Perhaps fraudulent francis missed this bit in his “reading” of the koran..

    “And the Jews say :Ezra is the son of allah and the Christians say :the messiah is the son of allah.That is their saying with their mouths.They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old,allah’s CURSE BE UPON THEM..how they are deluded away from the truth.”

    Koran 9:30

    In fact it is allah that is “deluded away from the truth”.
    It is allah who does not understand theology,the role given to the Jews and the whole point of Jesus Christ and His teachings.

    And this allah wants us to believe he is God when clearly he is NOT the Biblical God!

    Why should the Jews or Christians be cursed?
    Christians are cursed because they believe in Jesus and the Jews are cursed because of some silly nonsense about Ezra.

    How else do people speak except “with their mouths”?Please DO explain allah.

    The denial of Christ’s crucifixion… koran 4 v 157

    The utter rejection of Christ…koran 4 v 171
    (…and allah’s inability to understand theology is revealed..)

    These warped, koranic teachings of allah reveal the islamic contempt for Jews and Christians.

    btw Didn’t the King of Jordan claim recently that muslims accept Jesus as the Messiah,and respect Jews and Christians?This teaching of allah in k9:30 proves otherwise.Maybe his majesty missed the bits about allah cursing the Christians,denying Christ and allah’s violent anti-Semitic nature…

  31. Ade Fegan says

    Feb 7, 2018 at 6:37 am

    islamophobiaphobia

  32. Baucent says

    Feb 7, 2018 at 6:43 am

    “… but is rather actively striving to cleanse the area of terrorists and allow suffering Syrian civilians to go back to their homes.”

    But only Kurdish “terrorists”. The Jihadist types that Turkey supports on it’s border a little to the west, are clearly not needing of “cleansing”.

    Meanwhile the Pope is a fool who is being manipulated by a clever politician.

  33. LeftisruiningCanada says

    Feb 7, 2018 at 2:29 pm

    “concerted and continuous”

    =

    “merciless and unrelenting”

  34. Karen says

    Feb 7, 2018 at 11:11 pm

    “Erdoğan discussed the plight of the Christians [sic] minorities in the Middle East and promised to mobilize Turkish support to help them in every possible way, just as the Ottomans did in their 600-year history.”

    That’s funny. The Ottomans had a practice of abducting Christian boys to serve the empire in various government jobs and military service, a form of slavery called “blood tax”.

  35. sidney penny says

    Feb 8, 2018 at 7:06 am

    Are you not going to call it Infidels Guide to The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS?

  36. sidney penny says

    Feb 8, 2018 at 7:09 am

    “Pope Francis and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops are a disgrace to the Church, to Judeo-Christian civilization, and to the free world.”

    Say that again and again.

  37. sidney penny says

    Feb 8, 2018 at 7:19 am

    The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS.

    http://voiceofdharma.org/books/tcqp/chi3.htm
    CHAPTER 3
    ENTIRE QURAN IS A MANUAL ON JIHAD

    http://voiceofdharma.org/books/tcqp/chi6.htm
    CHAPTER 6
    JIHAD IN INDIA’S HISTORY

    The principles of jihad elaborated in countless compendia composed by Islamic scholars, have been generalized from concrete practices of the Prophet and confirmed by Allah through revelations in the Quran. In turn, these principles have guided all swordsmen of Islam throughout these fourteen countries and in many lands.

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