A Roman Catholic archbishop in Germany has condemned the religiously motivated violence against Christian migrants perpetrated by Muslim extremists and has called for a response on this problem.
“Religiously motivated” violence has been perpetrated against Jews in Germany and France, and in other areas of Europe, too. Archbishop Ludwig Schick offers simple, critical advice for the survival of free societies:
You can not arrive in our society if you do not value our values,” said Archbishop Schick. All sensible and well-intentioned people must resolutely oppose those who, whatever their religion or ideology, are lacking in respect for their fellow human beings. It will not work without such boundaries!
Somehow Western leaders have twisted this logical argument into mass insanity about “racism” and “Islamophobia,” and have flung wide open their doors to immigration, with their eyes shut.
“Catholic archbishop condemns Muslim violence against Christian migrants in Germany,” by Lorraine Caballero, Christian Daily, February 14, 2018:
A Roman Catholic archbishop in Germany has condemned the religiously motivated violence against Christian migrants perpetrated by Muslim extremists and has called for a response on this problem.
German Archbishop Ludwig Schick lamented that some newly arrived hardline Muslim immigrants do not understand Germany’s liberal values and said this was something the country had to address. He called for action against people who do not show respect for others because of their beliefs or religious background, Breitbart relayed.
“You can not arrive in our society if you do not value our values,” said Archbishop Schick. “All sensible and well-intentioned people must resolutely oppose those who, whatever their religion or ideology, are lacking in respect for their fellow human beings. It will not work without such boundaries!”
Schick was responding to the German government’s new report which reflected that there were 100 incidents of religiously motivated violence against Christians last year. Christian migrants staying in asylum homes, especially those who had converted from Islam, have reportedly been subjected to violence from their Muslim counterparts. Some have also been threatened.
Conservative politicians in Germany have become alarmed over the data the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) recently released. A spokesperson told Deutsche Welle that the figures only covered the hate crimes recorded until the end of November 2017.
In light of the revelations, Bavarian Interior Minister Joachim Herrman called for absolute tolerance for Christians who are trying to integrate into German society. He said those who want to live in the country are not welcome if they continue their anti-Christian stance and actions.
Christian Democratic Union interior policy spokesman Ansgar Heveling said the hate crimes need to be addressed in the same way that they are responding to anti-Semitic attacks at present. He also called for better protection for Christian institutions….
Peter Buckley says
“…….especially those who had converted from Islam,………”
Yet Islam is supposed to be “the fastest-growing religion”. Obviously not……………
andra says
Many of those who “convert” from Islam to Christianity on their arrival in Germany only pretent converting because that increases their chances to stay for good in Germany as they can now argue that they will be persecuted as Christian in their homelands. But you can bet that they return to their roots as soon as they have got the papers.And we have Christian priests who give them a two-week-course in Christianity and then baptize them.
Arryn says
YOU ARE CORRECT. IT IS THE MUSLIM WAY TO LIE AND DECEIVE PEOPLE OF A COUNTRY THEY ARE IN.
Andy says
Living in fear: How anti-Semitic is Germany?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiEeFNqMAOc
dumbledoresasrmy says
What is your evidence that all or most who state that they have apostasised from Islam are lying?
What is your evidence hat all they get are ‘a two-week course in Christianity’???
I have been a practising Christian all my life. In NO account of a person’s conversion from Islam to Christianity have I ever heard of ‘instant’ baptisms and ‘two-week’ courses of instruction. I do not think that any serious Catholic priest or Lutheran pastor would admit someone, from the background of another faith, after a mere two weeks’ instruction!!
Traditionally, catechesis took a long time; not as long and arduous, perhaps, as the process of converting to Judaism, but a lot longer than two weeks, and involving rigorous instruction. We have just entered the period of Lent – forty days. A full *six weeks*, originally of intensive spiritual discipline. *That* was the time during which catechumens were prepared for their entry into the faith (and most of them were people who had already been inquiring and learning, for some time prior).
andra says
For the instant-baptism there was an article in German newspapers. This Lutheran priest had weekly babtisms of people who did not even speak his language,which is German.. But I cannot find the article any more. For the fake conversions the evidence I have is the fact that refugees councellors tell them that conversion makes it easier to get an asylum acceptance.
gravenimage says
Andra, the idea that bad old Germany is discriminating against Muslims seems rather silly, given what is going on there with Muslim hordes flooding in.
StellaSaidSo says
@ gravenimage
Where did andra – who, btw, is from Germany – say that Germany is discriminating against Muslims? You appear to have completely misunderstood her posts.
gravenimage says
Stella, Andra–who I believe is a gentleman–was positing that Muslims in Germany were fake-converting to Christianity out of fear of Muslims being deported for being Muslim out of the belief that this would not happen to Christians.
As I noted, given the number of Muslims flooding into Germany now, I do not find the idea that Germany prefers Christian immigrants to Muslims to be likely.
Now, Germany *should* give precedence to threatened Infidels fleeing Dar-al-Islam, but that is another matter.
StellaSaidSo says
@ gravenimage
You still don’t get it. Andra did not claim that Germany prefers Christian immigrants to Muslims. S/he referred to the phenomenon of Muslims converting to Christianity in order to avoid being deported. As Christians, they would be persecuted if sent home to a Muslim country. So they queue up to become Christians. This is also happening elsewhere in Europe (see my 11:03pm below).
andra says
@gravenimage
You are right that there are hardly any deportations of Muslims from Germany. But this is against the law, because they get their status on no legal grounds. But if you are a Christian from a Muslim country – whenever you have converted – there are legal grounds for the acceptance of your asylum because you are persecuted in your homeland for religious reasons. And the persecution for religious reasons is a legal reason for the acceptance of an asylum demand in German law.
The Muslims who stay in Germany usually get only the status “tolerated”. It is just another bame and legally means that they should leave within the next eighteen months but they never do.
StellaSaidSo says
@ andra
Conversions from Islam to Christianity by asylum seekers have also dramatically increased in Denmark, Sweden and Finland. Avoidance of deportation appears to be a motivating factor.
gravenimage says
Stella, is there any evidence that Sweden is suddenly deporting Muslims? Not that I have seen.
StellaSaidSo says
Of course, GI, if you haven’t seen it, it can’t be happening, right?!
The THREAT of deportation is sufficient to prompt an attack of Christian piety on the part of many Muslim immigrants.
The phenomenon of conversion to secure asylum is common in Germany (where andra is posting from). In Sweden, conversions to Christianity increased significantly following the government’s announcement in 2016 of its intention to deport 80,000 immigrants. In Finland in 2016, authorities reported a dramatic increase in the numbers of failed asylum seekers converting to Christianity and appealing their deportation orders. The same trend has been observed in Denmark, where an unparalleled ‘spiritual awakening’ among asylum seekers has also occurred.
No doubt some of these conversions are genuine; but I think you would agree that there is a strong whiff of taquiyya about the majority of cases.
infidel numero uno says
This should have been the message to the whole of Europe at the beginning of the mass migration of the miscreant troglodyte 7th century cult adherents.
CRUSADER says
Those turdy Trogs!
StellaSaidSo says
Exactly what the Pope should be saying.
CRUSADER says
PRECISELY!
Ray Jarman says
Maybe the Church needs another seat of authority where another site, say Köln or maybe Warsaw is the seat of Papal Authority as was case with the Avignon Papacy which renounced the Roman Popes. With the communist pretender to the Papacy, pope Francis — what an insult to Francis of Assisi– who has surrendered the Catholic Church to the yet to be settled place of a new caliphate. He seems to have forgotten that Pope John Paul II was attacked by a loving Turkish muslim.
CRUSADER says
Good point. THAT assassination attempt was a case of clear Jihad!
Didn’t the Pope meet with him later and forgive and absolve him?
CogitoErgoSum says
Mehmet Ali Agca is an interesting character. Apparently he has converted to Christianity and now wants to live in Poland since it was the homeland of John Paul II, whom he now admires. He even has said he wants to become a Catholic priest. However, the man has some severe mental problems. Here is what Wikipedia has concerning him:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Ali_A%C4%9Fca
Ray Jarman says
Crusader, Yes the Pope did but as we are taught, we do forgive as did Jesus Christ but there are still consequences in the day of judgement. There must be justice with forgiveness.
Simon says
Yes! Like a breath of fresh air someone is finally speaking some common sense. Imam Francis would rather continue his dawa for Islam than defend Christianity…
Terry Gain says
“You can not arrive in our society if you do not value our values,” said Archbishop Schick. “All sensible and well-intentioned people must resolutely oppose those who, whatever their religion or ideology, are lacking in respect for their fellow human beings. It will not work without such boundaries!”
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Liberals will use these words to condemn those who criticize Islam. The notion that everyone is entitled to respect regardless of what insane ideology they may support is crazy. The line needs to be drawn at violent action, not speech.
That said, Archbishop Schick is a vast improvement over my clueless Pope.
tim gallagher says
Bravo to Archbishop Schick. And they are such “sensible” words as opposed to the ridiculous, suicidal words we get from the leftie liberal types who seem to think it makes sense to bring in people whose central texts, such as the Koran, call for them to hate and try to kill non-Muslims. They certainly don’t “value our values”. Maybe Schick has actually done a bit of research into Islam or maybe it’s just seeing the attacks by Muslims, ie just seeing the intolerant, violent way they behave, that has led to him drawing his very sensible conclusions. That foolish Islam appeaser, the present day Pope, should wake up the way Schick has. And Schick is right, “it won’t work without such boundaries”. Yep, keep Muslims out. That’s the boundary that’s needed to keep non-Muslims safe. I agree with your comment, Terry, that it is completely insane to respect people who have very clear hostility towards our way of life. They deserve zero respect from us. Why would anyone respect a clear enemy and threat to our safety? As you say, that’s just crazy. I wish the world was full of people as sensible as Schick. Schick also shows plenty of courage in speaking up as he does.
Phil Copson says
We have a political class who are so in love with their own cleverness and “attitudes” that they believe that reality is whatever they say it is.
The ground rules are that:
(A) There is no such thing as a “multi-cultural society”; either you have a society in which everyone subscribes to shared values and obeys the same laws, or you have a “Balkanised” dog-eat-dog world of victors and losers.
You can have multiple cultures, or you can have a society – you cannot have both.
(B) If people arrive from different cultures, it is necessary to find out beforehand what those differences are, and whether they are compatible with the host society. This obviously includes finding out what has happened to countries that have accepted large numbers of those people.
(C) Where those differences are incompatible or illegal, you make it plain that those practices are to be given up as a condition of entry, and that punishment, withdrawal of citizenship, and deportation are the consequences of refusal.
(D) Any group whose history proves that they do not assimilate, but instead work to impose an alien culture on the host society, should be presumed to be subject to a general ban, with entry only allowed on a case-by-case basis.
All this is too simple for a political class whose raison d’etre is to cut deals rather than protect the status quo.
I read for the first time today, Ronald Reagan’s warning that “We are only one generation away from losing our liberties”.
Maybe it’s time to coin a new saying? :
(E) “An “expert” is simply somebody who’s forgotten the basics.”
StellaSaidSo says
It’ll never catch on, Phil. Too much common sense.
The political class can’t handle the common sense.
tim gallagher says
All good policies, Phil. They should be implemented universally. StellaSaidSo, I hope that one day sensible policies will catch on with vast numbers of people. A lot of the political class do seem idiotic and completely out of touch with reality. Their idiocy is destroying many countries. From my point of view, as someone who knows a bit about Islam’s nature though not much compared to many of the commenters here on Jihad Watch, I find the attitudes expressed on this website to be sensible and yet so many people, who know nothing about Islam, would no doubt call the people here nasty Islamophobes, etc. I only hope large numbers of people wake up to reality very soon. That’s the key to things in any democracy. I guess the majority of Hungarians, Czechs and Poles have woken up. Hence their politicans do the right thing.
Bob Carrillo says
Halleluia!
CRUSADER says
It’s a beginning….
Michael Copeland says
Let Mustafa Carroll of Texas CAIR put the bishop in the picture:
“If we are practicing muslims we are above the law of the land”.
Infidel says
Expect this ABishop to be VILIFIED in the MSM and expect German authorities to frame charges against him for speaking the bitter truth. What else can one expect from the likes of MAD MAAMA MERKEL. She and the TURD of Canada are in a competition to OUTDO each other as to who is the greater Dhimmi between the two of them.. And if that means they have to betray their own Germans / Canadians who trustingly voted for them.. SO BE IT.. but both want this title of being the greatest Dhimmi.. VOW!!!!
nicu says
wow — what happened to him ??? at least ONE step into the right direction !
Dapto says
This Archbishop will be removed as he doesn’t have the same view as the Christian hating Pope.
gravenimage says
Probably not. He is bound to be marginalized, though.
StellaSaidSo says
This is possible, Dapto. His superiors have the power to remove him, and he could well find himself ‘banished to a remote parish’ if he continues to challenge the party line as determined by the Pope. The RCC is ruthless with senior clergy who don’t conform.
mortimer says
German Archbishop Ludwig is a PROPHET of the Church! About time someone was!
He is standing up to and standing AGAINST Pope Francis who is POPE DHIMMI and POPE DUMMY in the matter of Islam.
THREE POINTS about Islam MUST BE UNDERSTOOD by our Church leaders:
1) THE MEANING of Islam is that the Quraysh tribe was COMMISSIONED by Allah to CONQUER THE WORLD.
2) THE MOTIVE of Islam is that ALLAH HATES the DIRTY KUFAAR and wants all Muslims to HATE THEM TOO.
3) THE METHOD of Islam is that Muslims are COMMISSIONED BY ALLAH to be BOUNTY HUNTERS to KILL, RAPE, ENSLAVE and PERSECUTE the dirty KAFIRS.
Without understanding these THREE POINTS, our church leaders are BLIND GUIDES.
Eur says
For Muslims, only the first part should be applied “you can not arrive in our society” (Except for the refugees who should return to their Koran-infected wells after their cousins have just killed each other)
CogitoErgoSum says
It’s heartening to see this archbishop acting like a representative of Christ who is neither a dhimmi nor a traitorous harbi betraying his own people. He speaks the Truth which is the Way to Life as it was always meant to be.
The Muslims, their lackeys and the forces of darkness are not going to be pleased …….. and I like it. God protect him.
dumbledoresasrmy says
Yes, may God protect him.
May he be strengthened and protected spiritually and physically; and may the churches under his oversight flourish and grow!
I will pray for him.
I have been praying, for some time, that people and nations in Europe will be delivered from the demonic spiritual stronghold that is Dhimmitude. That this archbishop is piping up, is a sign of hope; an encouragement to *keep on praying*.
Shmoovie says
The Archbishop’s response is so common sense, as opposed to the PC vomit from Francis. And his words will give fake-tolerant leftists big public faints.
The results of non-sensibility combined with especially ill intentions are seen nearly daily. Those few who speak out are threatened or hushed one way or another.
Jayell says
“You can not arrive in our society if you do not value our values”……..
They’re not bothered about your ‘society’, mate, they’ve got their own. And they’ll come and dump it on your doorsteps while they help themselves to your goodies – financial or otherwise (and we know what the ‘otherwise’ is, don’t we?)!
Peter says
If a guest violates your rules or threatens you, your family, property, or way of life, you kick them out of your house. Maybe the Catholic church should dust off the Rules of St. Benedict.
Champ says
Schick was responding to the German government’s new report which reflected that there were 100 incidents of religiously motivated violence against Christians last year. Christian migrants staying in asylum homes, especially those who had converted from Islam, have reportedly been subjected to violence from their Muslim counterparts. Some have also been threatened.
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These crimes are shocking to non-muslims. But this is normative behavior within islam and is allah (satan) approved. Profoundly evil!
gravenimage says
Grimly true, Champ.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
This is an idiocy. which values ? worshiping the Satan (holy spirit) and beast way of life appearing half-naked líke monkeys ? To hell with it together with the Satan Who inspired It.
gravenimage says
In other words, pious Muslims will never abide by civilized values, because they do not believe in thm.
In the past, Ibrahim itace muhammed has condemned the civilized world for not beating women who are not immured in Burqas, for not letting Muslims “marry” little girls, for not allowing Muslims to rape and slaughter us with impunity.
Nor does he care that these are our lands; as he has also said, Infidels have no right to prevent Muslims from conquering us.
Champ says
Excellent response, Graven.
This despicable creep “iIbrahim itace muhammed” is part and parcel of the world’s foremost evil ideology known to man: ISLAM: the ‘religion’ from hell!
gravenimage says
Yes, Champ–he is *very* revealing of the sick Muslim mindset.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
you mean the Satan you Call holy spirit created the soils there exclusive for you to worship him and lead beast way of life ,and as anyone Who wants stay there must worship the Satan ?
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
you mean the Satan you Call holy spirit created the soils there exclusive for you to worship him and lead beast way of life ,and as anyone Who wants stay there must worship the Satan ?
…………………………
What Ibrahim itace muhammed here is saying is that he believes “Allah” created the world for Muslims to rape and slaughter Infidels, and that no part of the world should be free from such horrors.
And he considers being constrained from such atrocities to be “worship the Satan”.
He has also said that the considers preventing Muslims from such barbarism as forced sex with helpless children and stoning rape victims to death to be infringing their freedom to practice their religion. *Ugh*.
gravenimage says
And note that this is specifically addressing violence by Muslims against Chirstian migrants. Clearly Ibrahim itace muhammed believes Muslims have the right to violently attack these Christians.
Given his having said that Muslims have the right to slaughter *any* Infidels who do not submit to Islam, this should not surprise.
CogitoErgoSum says
If you don’t know our values, Ibrahim, I suggest you learn them. If you don’t like them, go to or stay in your own land and leave us alone.
gravenimage says
Of course, CogitoErgoSum, like all pious Muslims, Ibrahim itace muhammed believes Mohammedans have the right to conquer all Infidel lands.
Lydia Church says
This is an idiocy. which values ? worshiping the Satan (allah) and beast (mohammed) way of life appearing half-naked líke monkeys (when they rape)? To hell with it together with the Satan Who inspired It (allah).
The paragraph has been edited and is now correct!
Lydia Church says
And, his comment just goes to show their level of intolerance.
It’s not about what you believe, you idiot!
It’s about the rights of others not to be hurt because of their beliefs!
But for a taste of your own poison, then:
Since Christianity is the TRUTH, and islam is the lie from hell, we should outlaw islam then,
and take over their lands because they are the infidel (muslims). We will impose Christianity all over the world.
gravenimage says
Germany: Archbishop says “You can not arrive in our society if you do not value our values”
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Hear, hear! Kudos to Archbishop Schick.
Lydia Church says
They never should have let them in. They should be deported and punished as well. But it was a big puzzle piece for the global antichrist agenda, that is why they were let in. The trojan horse is inside the fort now.
About this item:
I feel like asking, “Did I hear right? Someone is actually finally speaking the truth out loud? Hallelujah!”
Matthieu Baudin says
“… A Roman Catholic archbishop in Germany has condemned the religiously motivated violence against Christian migrants perpetrated by Muslim extremists and has called for a response on this problem…”
A temporary response that the Archbishop might consider is to drastically curb the numbers of new arrivals while a thought out response to the current crisis and seemingly incompatible values can be arrived at. He needs to take the next step and canvas some possible responses instead of remaining aloof from the temporal realm and the welfare of his flock.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
satan (holy spirit) worshiper Gravenimage, you mean the Satan you Call holy spirit created the soils there exclusive for you to worship him and lead beast way of life appearing like group of monkeys ? You are joking
gravenimage says
You can always tell when unhinged Mohammedan Ibrahim itace muhammed is particularly enraged, because he keeps spamming the same basic post.
I answered him, above:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/02/germany-archbishop-says-you-can-not-arrive-in-our-society-if-you-do-not-value-our-values#comment-1839664
The only difference in this post from the one above is that Ibrahim itace muhammed is here saying that if you act to protect vulnerable people like Christian migrants from being attacked that this is “beast way of life appearing like group of monkeys”. *Ugh*.
Keys says
Yep, he’s unhinged. He forgot to mention mithraism.
It’s all he’s got – same old tired stuff.
He has no rational, truthful apology for Islam.
gravenimage says
All true, Keys. His vicious ramblings are very revealing of the Muslim mindset, though.
Eric jones says
I salute Archbishop Schick. I hope Francis the bouncer does not punish him.
Eric
MFritz says
Now Schick is interesting.
Especially, since he’s NOT one of the more orthodox bishops we had in the 1990s (think: along the line of Pope John Paul II). So media and politics cannot call him an “right wing extremist”, “racist” or “islamophobe” outright. But they will certainly try.
Though Schick once demanded a blasphemy-law (think: law against “religious” hate speech) which did not sit well with the public. But in recent years he has been strongly engaged against racism and anti-semitism. Which gives his current statement a very interesting spin!
Most likely there will be political pressure on the catholic church and attempts to marginalise Schick’s statement. We will see.
But it’s a beginning.
gravenimage says
Thanks for the background, MFritz.
andra says
We try. And it seems that the resistance is growing and going to the streets. Within the next three weeks there are three ralleys in Germany against Migrant violence and open borders: coming Saturday Berlin
03.03. Bocholt, 04.03. Kandel. The organizer of the Hamburg Monday ralley has been threatened and attacked so badly that she has given in.
StellaSaidSo says
It is heartening to see that, throughout Europe, the resistance is growing. Stay strong, Germany!
J D S says
We ALL have to make the change back to Christian values at the ballot box by electing officials with high Christian morals and values…..getting harder to find though.
Bless this priest for speaking out…but the pope may relieve the priest.
gravenimage says
Good to hear there are signs of resistance in Germany, Andra.
Politicianophobia says
Sick I bra him, the thighing master is an authority on Satan.
John says
Has the Pope excommunicated him yet?
penelope says
I feel for this man’s saety. Speaking against muzzies is a no-no as we sure don’t want to offend them. but they carry on their attacks on non-muslims with no repercussions to them. I admire this man for speaking the truth of the matter. muzzies are devastating Europe and nothing is being done to stop them. Same going on anyplace a muslim lands along with support from cair, mb, and other islam groups who hate the USA and are damned determined to take over. Wake up folks; we don’t want sharia in the USA, it is the opposite of our Constitution. Educate yourselves, speak up against islam and their tactics, call them out, expose them for what they really are, liars who hate the USA, and will stop at nothing to keep on with their mb plan for the USA.
terry says
Immediate deportation back to the hell holes they came from.
RiaD says
Oh, my. Pope Francis will have to set him straight. /sarc
Janet says
Finally a Catholic who gets it!
Mel says
Well, the Pope, with his NWO alliance, does not agree with this Archbishop!