The Irish government has been slammed for paying journalists to write good news stories about Project Ireland 2040. Unveiled by the government last week with a commitment to spend €116 billion, the document outlines plans to boost the Irish nation’s 4.7 million population by another million using mass migration.
As absurd as it sounds for the Irish government to be paying journalists to sell out Ireland, it appears to be a more widespread practice than most people realize.
Also, these suicidal immigration policies are, of course, being implemented not just in Ireland but in the EU (and the UK). The fallacious belief is that the swarm of migrants from the Middle East and Africa will somehow fill Europe’s population deficit that stems from the low birth rates of the native populations. The utopian belief is that — despite all disastrous evidence to the contrary — Muslim migrants will assimilate, find jobs and become responsible citizens who will start paying taxes to finance their new countries’ leftist dependence on social welfare.
In Germany, despite the 47 billion dollars that taxpayers must pay as a result of the existing migrant chaos, a secret document came to light showing that the government was planning to bring in 12 million migrants over the next four decades, regardless of the mass protests that have been going on in some cities.
The Irish government is headed in the same direction. It has been criticized for “plans to open a centre for 115 asylum seekers in a heritage town home to one of Ireland’s oldest traditional festivals,” with news reports also circulating about “gangs of teenagers of African origin” which are “terrorising locals across Dublin.”
“Irish Govt ‘Paid Press’ to Promote Plan to Grow Population by One Million With Mass Migration,” by Virginia Hale, Breitbart, February 24, 2018:
The Irish government has been slammed for paying journalists to write good news stories about Project Ireland 2040.
Unveiled by the government last week with a commitment to spend €116 billion, the document outlines plans to boost the Irish nation’s 4.7 million population by another million using mass migration.The government’s strategic communications unit paid for sponsored “news pieces” to appear in national and regional newspapers promoting Ireland 2040, which “could not include negative or critical content”, The Times reported on Friday.
Speaking in the Irish parliament, or Dáil, opposition leader Micheál Martin branded the government’s use of the media to promote its scheme “ethically dubious”.
“The blurring of the lines is genuinely worrying from a parliamentary democracy point of view,” he said.
“The Taoiseach will say he is promoting the government, but the dogs on the street know he is using taxpayers’ money to promote Fine Gael politically.”
Project Ireland 2040 has been slammed on social media as a “pyramid scheme” to enrich investors by adding consumers at taxpayers’ expense, and as a globalist programme to “replace” the native population.
The government has also come under attack for plans to open a centre for 115 asylum seekers in a heritage town home to one of Ireland’s oldest traditional festivals.
Local media reports that on Friday a public meeting called to discuss the plans was attended by more than 100 concerned locals, many of whom argued the town of just 300 residents lacks the services needed to cater for so many new arrivals……
mortimer says
The importation of 1 million SHARIA-LAW TOTALITARIANS will effectively destroy Irishness.
The Fine Gael is led by deeply delusional and deeply naïve ideologues who are kowtowing to the globalists in Brussels.
The result for Ireland will be untold future misery, poverty, stagnation and the exodus of most Irish people who will be attacked, robbed and raped by the supremacists.
There is NOTHING GOOD in Islam if you are a ‘DIRTY KAFIR’.
StellaSaidSo says
+1
Wellington says
With you completely on this, mortimer. Should all this occur it will eventually mean the death of Ireland as we know it. This is traitorous madness and should it be implemented there will be no going back to what Ireland once was. Ditto for other Western European nations like Sweden and the UK, Canada too as long as Trudeau and his ilk continue to get their way. We are witnessing the very possible destruction of much of the West in our time. An immense tragedy is in the making.
Petrouchka1 says
+ 1
Andy says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0exTOSpibzU&bpctr=1519943685
Western world nations are heading for a disaster!!!
Islamic Ireland, Britain, The World.
The TRUTH about no go zones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=27&v=wO08jBYokIM
blitz2b says
Wellington,
I have a much better plan for Ireland and the rest of the western world…
Step one….The amount of money being spent to support the non assimilatable hordes of barbaric Islam, why do these governments not aggressively promote a “baby boom” expansion of their own indigenous population.
I mean offering incentives to families who have more than two children. A fully government funded program to educate theses children up to university level.
Spare no expense in supporting single mothers and discourage abortion by offering to care for unwanted pregnancies that lead to the birth of the child and then offer these mothers a chance to stay united with their newly born children and again financially support such parenting efforts until the child is grown up.
Of these simple methods are put into practice,
Europe’s population could bounce back within decades, all the while each nation maintaining its own cultural heritage.
Step two would be to boot out the traitorous liberal left from power and take over decision making and strengthening the nations through good old fashioned patriotism.
Step three …. Ban Islam.
Michael Copeland says
116 bn Euros would go a long way to accomplish that objective. That is the amount that the grandly named “Project Ireland 2040” is announced to cost.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/02/24/irish-mass-migration/
“It’s our big vision for how we want to reshape Ireland….” said the PM, Leo Varadkar.
Garfield says
+1
PRCS says
Failing that, if immigration actually is needed to stave off a low-birth rate catastrophe in non-Muslim nations–why the ongoing preference for Muslim migrants?
Although “unbeliever” refugees from Middle Eastern–and other geographic areas–would also bring a foreign culture with them, why aren’t they given preference?
dragaozao says
The aim is to destroy western values, societies and replace chistianity. I am not a fan of conspiracy theories, but outside them, I find no arguments to explain wat is happening.
Wellington says
With you, blitz2b.
peter says
This nonsene about needing migrants to boost the population of Europe is a lie. There are as many as 20 million people across the Eu unemployed and this is only going to get worse as A.I. takes hold over the following ten to twenty years. There may be cases where some Countries may need extra workers at a given time , but then surely these workers can be sourced from within other Eu Countries . The fact that these clowns of politicans are hell bent on bringing in dirty uneducated Muslims from the middle east and Africa explains their real reasons for doing this. As far as I am concerned this is an attempt to replace the indigenous peoples of Europe through mass migration and multicultaralism. The Kalergi plan as it is known explains all this to a tee Also copy and paste this link it really is an eye opener. The fate of Europe was decided long ago… The Barcelona Declaration of 1995
StellaSaidSo says
@ peter
You are correct re population replacement. The globalists are committed to the Kalergi Plan, and to totalitarian gov’t. The deliberate importing of third world Muslims is designed to dilute white European identity, and to dumb down the population – and, in the short term, to cause a level of social chaos which demands a gov’t-imposed ‘solution’. This solution will of course necessitate the sacrificing of liberty and democracy in the interest of social order.
Pong says
Families, not single mothers should get the stimulus package. Single mothers produce children with too many problems: drugs, alcohol and crime just to mention a few.
Most women don’t wont to work. Men should be given substantial tax break so they can support the family.
gravenimage says
“Most women don’t wont (sic) to work.”
……………………..
Is that because they are “deficient in their intelligence”, Pong?
Super Nova500 says
The Islamists will have a field day with the young Catholic girls in Ireland. Also…. there’s other options for Immigration…like India’s, Nepal’s, Butan’s Buddhist and Hindus, who are NOT bred to eat, drink and breathe the violent Quranic verses since childhood. They may be forgetting one thing though…. that the Northern Irish/ Irish are known to fight for themselves e.g., IRA. This may end badly for violent adhering immigrants unwilling to assimilate.
gravenimage says
Super Nova, the IRA has allied with Jihadists like the PLO before. I’m not sure I’d count on them…
J D S says
Why has “step two” not been implemented long ago?
I have no answer for that but it would appear that it is the people’s fault…..I don’t know the voting record of the citizenry but May be many just haven’t voted or let their officials know their wishes…Seems strange that if the population don’t want certain officials in office then why allow them yo stay.
Can’t say too much here…..Same is happening in the U.S.
and we are paying or will pay for it.
Gail says
John Walker Lind is due out next year and took dual citizenship with Ireland. Now I see why. I used to think I was mostly Irish but due to DNA testing I am not Good news.
gravenimage says
Not all Irish people are this stupid.
Raylene Hamson says
Those promoting this stupidity don’t care as they’ll be dead by then so it won’t affect them !!!
J D S says
Yes Raylene…and others…the green of Ireland will be turned BLOOD red with this stupid idea of bringing people ingo their country that will not assimilate, will force their so called Satan driven religion upon them, will be harassing and raping their young children and women and causing all kinds of chaos…
Ireland has seen past chaos..Protestants…Catholics..Irish…. British…IRA…etc.
“But you ain’t seen nuthin yet”.
JawsV says
100% suicidal.
Mac-101 says
And this isn’t part of a much larger conspiracy?
thesailor says
Oh I think it is.
WorkingClassPost says
Don’t be surprised.
Read Irish history and you’ll see that the people have been sold out to foreign invaders many times before.
It used to be for the King’s shilling, but now petro dollars, or euros, will do.
Pong says
Not this time. The last election in Ireland resulted in the most pro-islam parliament. It wasn’t a secret before the election were those candidates stood on the question of moslem immigration. Irish people were not mislead, they knew what they were getting. They brought it on themselves and good luck to them and The Islamic Republic of Ireland.
Parker says
Selling manure as ground beef
RichardL says
the sad thing is that Robert is overstating the critical reception of the State’s policy of important Muslims. The biggest demonstrations were 2000-odd people. That’s hardly mass demonstrations. And of course the German government has no plans to change their intentional killing of the German nation. They will import millions in the next few years. Fait accompli. Afterwards: dictatorship or katharsis.
RichardL says
Christine, I beg your pardon!
Westman says
It’s been estimated that there are 7 chain migrants for every 2 migrants. Taking in 1 million “refugees” into a current 4.7 million Irish population would bring an additional 3.5 million “family” members for a total of 4.5 million migrants in a total population of 9.2 million. The “migrant” population would then be 49% of the population of Ireland and a distinct majority in less than 10 years.
It would be impossible for the Irish economy to support these migrants for several years while they gain skills and language. And say goodbye to the Irish Gaelic language.
At 49% of the population, Sharia, and a Muslim parallel society would be inevitable. The results would make “The Troubles” seem minor. It would be the end of ethnic Ireland.
Michael Collins must be screaming, no!, no!, in his grave.
Gjallarhornet says
How can anyone think that this will work?
Even persons who, in principle, is for immigration must, by pure reason, be against this. To add one million into a population of four – it can never work. The numbers are so far off it is absurd.
But today, alas, the mantra seems to be that immigration is a good in itself. Period. No matter the numbers, the persons in question, where they may land or HOW the whole circus is conducted. This is equal to being a die hard ‘state should own nothing’ type …. who sells out the national oil industry …. for one dollar. To North Korea. The important thing is to sell, right? That metaphor – it describes Europe now on this issue,
Oh, I forgot – the one million coming are muslims. They hate you anyway, and have no plans of ‘intergrating’.
Yes, we have turned into a continent of delusionals.
Save Europe says
It’s pure insanity.
Gjallarhornet says
Yes, But in the folly … lies the remedy. So do I believe. This will not be the last push of this magnitude. BUT … no way if people are going to accept more and more of this giant schemes undermining everything. Somethings got to give, in the end. And I believe, if we all help pushing, the mentality behind these plans will be the thing that break, in the long run.
Gjallarhornet says
Rome could not conquer Ireland, and Britain had to let it go.
Islam, on the other hand, will conquer the island.
dumbledoresarmy says
Why are you so bloody defeatist?
i see so much of this in the jihadwatch comments.
i’m almost beginning to think that we have people posting here whose *intention* is – by constantly harping on the ‘all is lost’, give up, despair’ theme – to *produce* the effect they merely claim to be describing/ predicting.. by using repetition of the ‘all is lost’ meme, to paralyse into inaction anyone who might otherwise have gotten up from their computer desk and gone off and.. done something to warn other people and RESIST Islamisation.
Gjallarhornet says
I’m not defeatist, you’ve got it all wrong. And yes, I’m VERY active here where I live.
Point is, sometimes the politics are not just wrong from your own (that means here ‘mine’) point of view – they are utter lunacy. Then you have a responsibility to help reveal what the proposals contain. But i agree with you that only internet commenting will not do thoug.
Gjallarhornet says
Oh ..and neither do I believe that everything is lost by the way.
Januk36 says
“Why are you so bloody defeatist?” (+1)
For as much havoc it might bringt there is no way that Islam will prevail in the West.
Savvy Kafir says
Januk36 — At this point, it’s quite possible that Islam WILL prevail in the West. In fact, that’s the eventual outcome that most indicators have suggested, for years now, in many Western countries. The Islamists are so resolutely determined to win the world for their batshit religion, via Demographic Jihad, Stealth Jihad, & outright terrorism — and very few infidels seem to have a similar level of commitment to the counter-jihad. (Jihad Watchers excepted.)
The situation is made FAR more dangerous by the traitorous collusion with Islam of the mainstream media and many political “leaders” & bureaucrats in the West — and by the steadfast refusal of the vast majority of liberals, progressives, & assorted leftists to see Islam for what it is. (I say that as a Lefty myself — one who has butted heads with liberal friends & acquaintances who don’t know the first thing about Islam, but who feel compelled to defend it against all criticism.)
I’m not one of those defeatists who say that it’s “game over” for this or that European country. I’m not willing to let an Islamized Sweden or Germany or Britain serve as a cautionary tale. I say we need to fight like hell to make sure that NO Western nations become Islamized. I say we need to keep fighting until every single Muslim has been deported from the civilized world — because that’s the ONLY real, permanent solution to this problem.
But most of the things that need to happen, for us to win this war, are still NOT happening. And it’s dangerous to assume that somehow it will all turn out okay in the end — just as it’s a mistake to give in to defeatism and stop fighting.
gravenimage says
Yes–we have to *stand against* this insanity–not roll over for it.
dumbledoresarmy says
Why should these million migrants be *Muslims*????
Why should they not be *fellow Catholics*, rescued from outright genocide?
Irish jihadwatchers should press their government to get on board with Barnabas Fund’s Safe Havens project. *That* is focused SOLELY and SPECIFICALLY on finding refuge for horribly-persecuted – indeed, mortally imperilled – Iraqi and Syrian CHRISTIANS, most of whom are … eastern-rite *Catholics*. If Ireland thinks they need a million people, well… let them tell Barnabas to find them a million bona-fide Christians! If there aren’t enough Assyrian Christians to fill the quota, then make up the gap with… COPTS, who are also suffering a slow-motion genocide.
The Christians from Iraq and Syria tend to be better educated than the Muslims; not a few are skilled craftspeople with a great work ethic (one bloke, from Syria but of Armenian ethnicity, who *has* been lucky enough to get to Australia, is a fine silversmith and has pitched right in and is working assiduously).
I can guarantee that these people would be more than grateful to find a safer place than where they’ve been living at the nonexistent mercy of mohammedan bullies and thugs, for generations. Being Catholics they would fit into the parish schools and churches and in the next generation, or the next, they would be… Irish, intermarried with the Irish.
Get cracking, dear Irish jihadwatchers. Write letters, personally visit your MPs. Contact Barnabas Fund and get some details on ‘Operation Safe Havens”. Barnabas are unlikely to be fooled by Muslims pretending to be what they ain’t; since most of the Christians in Iraq and Syria are ethnically distinct from Arabs, some even speaking Aramaic rather than Arabic, and live in particular areas, particular villages, even, and are pretty closely-connected communities, and Barnabas has been working closely with them for the past twenty years and more, time enough to know who is who and who is related to whom.
gravenimage says
Most of the few Catholics immigrating to Ireland are from Poland and other parts of Eastern Europe–I think there are few from threatened parts of the Muslim world.
But that is what Ireland *should* be doing.
alex smythe says
DD’s Army: that’s a great idea. And, as other people have suggested with other parts of Europe, why not bring in some Filipino Christians! Like most Irish, Filipino Christians are usually Catholic, they love art, music and literature, and aren’t above drinking a bit too much alcohol now and then. Plus, virtually all Filipinos speak at least basic English, which is the main language of Ireland.
Gjallarhornet says
I also wonder … when comes the first proposal to take in more muslims than there are inhabitants in a country?
Let’s take a small country. Iceland has 348 000 inhabitants. How would they fare, if Iceland took in half a million muslims? Finland has around 5,5 million people. When comes the proposal to take in 5 million muslims? Malta has a bit over 400 000 people. How about a million muslims on top of that?
When this point comes, things will get very interesting indeed.
gravenimage says
I’m not sure “interesting” is the adjective I would use, Gjallarhornet . “Tragic” or “horrifying” might be more apt…
Garfield says
Hellish? That’s what Islamic mass immigration is.
gravenimage says
“Hellish” works, too.
Gjallarhornet says
‘Interesting’ is here intended as an understatement. I have a penchant for using those, as they seem – to me anyway – often to convey the meaning *better* than any expletive, not to mention the use of capital letters.
Q_DP says
‘The Troubles’ taking on a new meaning it seems.
MFritz says
“Cheap labour!” It’s ONLY the globalists pushing this agenda. No sane people would let THEM in at this point.
Why not get a million asians instead? They are the most reliable and hard-working people! Ah, yeah, they may be not as cheap as easy to get as those ‘slims from N’frica…
carlos danger says
Why not pick your own cotton, Fritz? Importing “cheap” labour is always expensive at the end of the day?
do it yourselves, or do without.
gravenimage says
Muslims are not labor, cheap or otherwise. Many Muslims are on the dole–and cost their host countries in added need for police, security, courts, and prisons.
Infidel says
Vow… the news out of the Eu just gets more and more mind boggling .
D-spot says
…… and what might rouse the Irish? when these lovlies try to take out the Guiness brewery!!
carlos danger says
….at least they’re not English.
janwoG says
The pedophilia covered by the Catholic clergy has killed Christianity in Ireland, and noew the country is infected by Leftism.
Lebel says
Where does it say the 1000000 will all be Muslims?
There are labour migrants from other countries you know. Why do you have to twist everything to fit your narrative? there are plenty of migrants for East and Southeast Europe in places like Ireland for instance.
JawsV says
Just can it, Muslim. Nothing’s twisted but Islam. A plague on the planet for 1400 years.
Lebel says
You’re right, my taqqiya has failed once again.
The Irish government is planning to bring in 1000000 Muslims. It’s their plan, Mr. Spencer said so.
RodSerling says
Did Robert write the headline? Article is by Christine.
RodSerling says
Yes, the headline is incorrect. It should say 1 million migrants. This needs to be corrected.
Looking at the wider immigration demographics in Europe in recent decades, though, a disproportionately large share of the immigrants in this Irish gov’t scheme would probably be Muslim.
Lebel says
Yes but these are either refugees/asylum seekers or illegal migrants. What the Irish government is proposing is legal labour migration. That one million will be selected. Thanks
PABLO says
You clearly see what is happening with Muslim migrants in Western European countries, but somehow you believe that the Irish government will be selecting individuals from countries that espouse western values. This is naive. By the way, where do you think your refugees/asylum seekers or illegal migrants” will be from?
gravenimage says
There is some immigration into Ireland from Poland and other Eastern European nations; there are even a few Britons.
But the EU itself makes clear that most of the immigration into Ireland is from Muslim-majority nations:
https://ec.europa.eu/ireland/news/key-eu-policy-areas/migration_en
The first Islamic Society in Ireland was established in 1959–the year I was born. There was no Mosque there until 1976.
As recently as 1991 there were only 3,873 Muslims in all of Ireland–that increased sixteen-fold by 2016. That is still only a little over one percent of the population–but that is the Muslim population of the US, and look at all the Jihad terror here.
Ireland is already starting to suffer from the Muslims already there:
“Ireland: Muslim who randomly stabbed man to death ‘not fit’ to stand trial, getting psychiatric treatment”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/01/ireland-muslim-who-randomly-stabbed-man-to-death-not-fit-to-stand-trial-getting-psychiatric-treatment
“Ireland: Muslim leader says female genital mutilation should be ‘allowed by law if needed’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/02/ireland-muslim-leader-says-female-genital-mutilation-should-be-allowed-by-law-if-needed
Of course, Lebel knows this.
Ireland only has 4.7 million people–it would not take much for her to be overrun by Muslims.
RodSerling says
Thanks Graven.
gravenimage says
Thanks, Rod. Good to see you posting again.
Lebel says
The link you provided is a good source, you should read it.
“The European Union will provide asylum for those with legitimate claims to refugee status but there also needs to be new procedures for an efficient and credible EU return policy for migrants who don’t need international protection.” – That means that those fake asylum seekers need to be sent back.
It’s about ASYLUM, not LABOUR MIGRATION. Ireland is not talking about bringing in 1000000 asylum seekers, they are talking about legal labour migrants. People that have to go through the proper channels and that want to work in Ireland. There are plenty of those around the world. The 2015 crisis was due to Germany taking in asylum seekers by record numbers due in large part to the Syrian war. Ireland is not proposing this at all.
In other words, you can’t just come through Libya and the mediterranean and sneak in and get a job in Ireland.
Gravenimage does not appear to know this. Do the research and prove the appalling and disgusting Lebel wrong.
gravenimage says
When has the EU *ever* deported large numbers of Muslim immigrants because they are not real refugees? This implication is ludicrous.
The idea that all legal immigration results in good, hardworking citizens who would never engage in Jihad terror is, indeed, debunked here all the time.
And the idea that the “2015 crisis” was either limited to Germany or to 2015 is absurd.
Also ridiculous is the idea that Ireland is not already having problems with Jihad and Shari’ah.
“Ireland: Muslim complains after Muslim goes on stabbing spree that ‘Islam always gets the brunt of it’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/01/ireland-muslim-complain-after-muslim-goes-on-stabbing-spree-that-islam-always-gets-the-brunt-of-it
“Ireland: Muslims operating active recruitment network for the Islamic State”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/09/ireland-muslims-operating-active-recruitment-network-for-the-islamic-state
Halal Bacon says
Two words, “Common Purpose” Google it!
Halal Bacon says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwAhrU_wTdA
Andy says
“Feelings outrank rational argument ”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VC74t7fubk
thesailor says
I think you are right. All these Muslim immigration schemes are so patently ludicrous and disastrous that they could not possibly be caused by simple, or even gross incompetence. I think Common Purpose is at the root of a quite deliberate destruction of the civilised West, to be replaced by what they perceive to be a more malleable, ignorant mass of proles who will not question anything deeper than their next rape, killing or welfare collection. Common Purpose can then rule the world with an iron rod.
However, note the result of the Australian importation of Cane Toads to destroy their unruly beetles. And “beware the fury of the patient man”. I do believe I sense already the beginnings of revolution. Unfortunately, due to the very civilised Western attitudes that are currently being used against those who exhibit them, it seems clear that by the time the Western worm turns there will be no possibility of avoiding massive bloodshed. These Common Purpose drones should be hanging from lamp-posts, and probably will eventually. But not before truly terrifying amounts of blood have been spilt.
Is anyone out there in a position to track down who in positions of power in Government, Police etc in Britain (for starters) are products of Common Purpose? It might be very revealing to see a list drawn up.
Eric jones says
Mass immigration to make up for declining birthrates is not needed. In developed prosperous nations declining birth rates is not necessarily a bad thing. What leads to productivity is a population with skills and education that is applying technical innovations to production. This population should be well motivated. The country should be investing in its infrastructure and its human capital. This is what Japan does and they don’t care about their low birth rates.
Pakistan and S. Korea choose different development paths. Pakistan recruited more of it people to its textile industry. S. Korea educated its population and applied technology to production. Clearly S. Korea is the more prosperous nation. Mass immigration is a globalist weapon to destroy nation states. It could be Ireland or the USA.
Eric
gravenimage says
True–Japan is not bringing in many migrants, and they are thriving.
Peter says
What, the Irish miss their 700 years of British colonization and imperialism so much that they want to relive it under even worse conditions under Muslim supremacists who will permanently take over?
Mafy says
If Irish people were paid decent wages you would have more people working. This importation of cheap labour will just make a bad situation worse. And please don’t say that they will all be highly qualified. We have all seen those who have come to Ireland already. If you insist on saying that they are highly qualified, then one would have to assume that they are prepared to work for less than our own highly qualified young people who are leaving. PAY IRISH PEOPLE DECENT WAGES
gravenimage says
Most of these Muslims are not only not qualified, they are not willing to train or work in the first place.
jan says
In Germany the direction of Daimler and Volkswagen supported Merkel’s immigration policy, they claimed they needed all those skilled immigrants. Now it turns out that they have employed exactly 55, yes you read that correctly FIFTYFIVE (!!!), out of the 1.500.000 immigrants. What are the going to do with the other 1.499.945 ??????
The answer is : PAMPER them. Germany spent 22 billion euro on accomodating them in 2017. They will suck the life out of the German economy !!!!
Afgan “refugees” (guys between 20 and 30 years of age, in fighting condition), are having a great time drinking coffee on the Kurfurstendamm in Berlin, paid by the German taxpayer, while German soldiers risk their lives in Afghanistan to liberate the country!!!
The leftiSSt scum has gone crazy to allow all this.
Older Canadian says
I am not the least surprised.
I learned a few years ago, to my shock, that Ireland’s politicians are extremely anti-semitic. Therefore, for them to unite with another group that has the same hate appears to be a good fit, or that is how their politicans will justify and/or force their agenda.
I feel so sorry for the typical Irish citizen. How sad to hear than in 22 years the muslim immigrants will represent approximately 25% of their population.
They will have to change a few laws in order to accomodate this. Perhaps they get canada’s PM Trudeau to give them advice on on to do this successfully.
StellaSaidSo says
‘…Ireland’s politicians are extremely anti-Semitic…’
In according legitimacy to the ‘Palestinian’ ’cause’, the EU took an anti-Semitic position by default. This is not to say, however, that ordinary people are knee-jerk anti-Semites. I often hear it said that ‘the French are anti-Semitic’, yet my experience of French people does not support this assertion. I hope that the same is true of the Irish.
Felix Quigley says
You are right. It is contained within the way that the Palestinian Arab Big Lie has been sold…very slick and heavily invested operation.
Remember the Irish are very sensitive to emigration issues and that is the way that the Palestinian Arab Big Lie was sold
thesailor says
Muslims 25% of the population? I believe that at 1% they keep quiet; at 2% they start whingeing about freedom to practise their faith; at 3% they start throwing their weight about; at 4% they start causing quite serious social strife; at 5% they are close to dictating how the country runs. Good luck Ireland from an ever-fond Liverpudlian, now living in the relative sanctity of New Zealand. Even here – at around 1% – they are starting to complain about KFC not producing halal menus (so far to no avail).
It will all end in tears without a doubt. Puts me in mind of chickens inviting the foxes to dinner without checking who is on the menu.
S Byers says
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%
Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. – Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’
It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.
Wellington says
S Byers: Would that most every non-Muslim in the West read what you have provided and thoroughly grasp the truth of what you have stated.
Yes, the truth about Islam is out there and many like Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Nonie Darwish, Ibn Warraq, Hugh Fitzgerald, Christine Douglass-Williams, Bat Ye’or and yourself know said truth and write or speak about it but, sadly, so many still do not know the real truth about Mo’s nefarious creed and evil generally profits more by ignorance (inertia coming in a close second) than any other factor.
And nothing is a more evil ideology than Islam. Perhaps there are some ideologies that are equally evil, for instance Marxism and Nazism, but none more so. Would that almost all in the West grasp this. Not there yet. Not even close to there yet. But, in any case, thanks again for your post. I hope many read it.
gravenimage says
Irish government paid media to promote plan to bring in one million Muslim migrants
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Insanity.
Joe says
I wonder what sort of disclosure was at the top of that “news” story. Was it, “Your tax dollars at work. The Irish government pays us to print this?”
Joe Creho says
“Local media reports that on Friday a public meeting called to discuss the plans was attended by more than 100 concerned locals, many of whom argued the town of just 300 residents lacks the services needed to cater for so many new arrivals…”
More than a hundred are reported to have been there. Many (less than two hundred) stayed away. This tells us that those in the latter group either don’t think there’s a problem, or couldn’t attend though they wanted to, or couldn’t be bothered to attend (something unmissable on telly, or it was Thursday afternoon and “on Thursday afternoon I always have my hair done” …or something else). Mankind is a mystery-
Raylene Hamson says
And that is how Islam gets a foothold in the west……complacency of the western population.
Garfield says
Sad. I wanted to visit Ireland someday and have it be, you know, IRELAND.
This plan is suicidal. Hate filled supremacists are not going to take over and curate museums of filthy infidel art, they’re not going to sing pub songs (since alchahol isn’t sharia compliant and anyway there could be uncovered women there)…these Muslims despise everything they come into contact with. Labor? They won’t lift a finger unless it’s to blow people up or start a sex grooming gang it seems. Or sit there making a show of fake piety while they push for sharia.
What we are seeing is a plan to end the world as we know it. For what, I don’t know. It seemed outlandish to believe Nazis would really gas 6 milion human beings but they did. So I guess its not outlandish to think some group wants to eradicate what was Europe and replace everyone with idiotic violent barbarians. Otherwise they would be inviting Christians, anyone but death cult perverts from hell. And Islam is hell. What else makes people want to marry 9 year old children, rape boys, do FGM….?
Felix Quigley says
This issue is both international and national.
International in the sense that Globalists want an “Open Doors” policy into which fit nearly all the political elites in every country, and agitators like the Pope and Soros.
National in the sense that Ireland did not go through all of that horrific sufferings at the hands of brutal British ruling class armies and Black and Tans to be betrayed by the Toadies in the leadership of Ireland in the present. That is all the political parties, the Church Heirarchy bar none, the revisionist and fascist lefts, etcetera.
I represent the greatest nightmare of people like Wellington and Spencer. I represent socialist revolution.
Furthermore I am not just talking here and this is not just words. I am prepared to do it.
Some of those spouting above like “Wellington” have a history of support for NATO against the Serbs. Wellington has NOTHING to advise us Irish about after that history. OK Wellington! No hard feelings and all that but you are not qualified AFTER THAT HISTORY to speak to my native and beloved country. That country is beloved Ireland which is close to my heart.
Ireland under true socialist leadership has no need for one immigrant. From anywhere.
To be involved in bringing into Ireland is a crime payable by a great penalty because that is high treason. That must be the fate of anybody who brings a Muslim into Ireland.
Ireland has a population of four or five million. It is a beautiful country in the extreme with great soil and climate.
It is also a country which will become vegetarian. Cruelty to animals will be out. Abbatoirs will be a thing of the past.
With increased mechanization we can farm in a way that safeguards our wild animals, especially The Irish Hare, our most beloved Irish Animal, similar to the issues involved with in Spain The Iberican Lynx.
We will in essence manage our own affairs. What we need is the Socialist Revolution to be able to manage those affairs.
We do not need above all people like Wellington and others responsible for war on the Serbs to advise us the noble and great Irish about ANYTHING.
Wellington says
Get a grip, Felix Quigley.
On the specific matter of the bombing of Serbia in 1999, I have before stated my position on this but I will do so again. The break-up of Yugoslavia involved four wars in eight years (1991-1999) and much of Europe, and especially countries close to Yugoslavia like Hungary, Austria and Italy, were profoundly worried about the instability overall of the break-up and the possibility of refugees aplenty coming into said countries. The markets too did not like the instability and this was also a factor. Now, when the break-up began in 1991, Bush 41 very publicly said that this was Europe’s problem. Clinton, when he came into office in 1993 said the same thing but by 1999 matters were out of control, one European country after another was begging the US to do something about the incessant fighting and brutality and Clinton in the Spring of 1999 decided to bomb Belgrade to send a message to all that the overt wars had to stop. It worked and actually it could be argued saved far more lives in the long run. The bombing accomplished what it was intended for. Thereafter, there was still strife to be sure in the former Yugoslavia but no further outright war and Europe breathed a sigh of relief. The UN had done nothing (actually worse than nothing), the Russians were useless and Europe as a whole once again showed how feckless it was. So, the US, which had been criticized for years by Europe for not interfering (or don’t you remember this?), was thereafter blamed for interfering. Sometimes you just can’t win, especially when you’re the great power. It’s easy, you know, to be Ireland, Canada or Denmark. It is deuce difficult to be the USA. But you won’t get this.
Now, this is my take on the entire bombing of Serbia in 1999. Was there fault to go around to all groups and not just the Serbs? Absolutely. Should the US later have recognized an independent Kosovo? Absolutely not. This was a mistake. But the 1999 bombing put an end to the outright martial mess and so I supported what Clinton did. Now, you don’t have to agree with me, but this is my take on matters and I would contend that it in no way reflected badly on NATO (which is, let’s face it, essentially the US—-if no US, then no NATO). NATO, since its inception in 1949, has been the greatest and most powerful military alliance in the history of man for the protection and promotion of freedom. That you don’t grasp this is not my problem.
As for socialism, it doesn’t work. There is no example of socialism working if it was not first built upon an already capitalist foundation. Socialism from scratch is unworkable and stupid. Besides, it also inhibits freedom. Interesting that if one lives in a capitalist country but wants to practice with some other people a socialist lifestyle one can do this, but if one lives in a socialist country and wants to practice with some other people a capitalist lifestyle, this is prohibited. Just as democracy allows for the freest kind of government, so does capitalism allow for the freest kind of economy. Besides, capitalism blows socialism out of the water with respect to how well it works. The US is the greatest and largest economy of any polity in history and this is due to capitalism. China, which is still officially socialist (Communist) is unofficially in the economic sphere now a capitalistic nation (though with its share of early capitalism’s mercantilistic features) and this is why it has prospered enormously in the last three decades or so. You won’t get this either.
As for vegetarianism, what are you going to do, force this on those who don’t want to be vegetarian? Wouldn’t surprise me. Not at all since socialists like yourself are social engineers and social engineers are control freaks. Done here.
Felix Quigley says
Eating of meat involves the killing of animals. The killing of animals makes us into savages. And it is not necessary. Science has moved on greatly in the production of real meat which is an alternative to animal meat. Such a new world will require education not force but surely it is to be considered not sneered at.
NATO did not attack the Islamist side in Yugoslavia. The Muslims were led by Izetbegovic who was an extreme Islamist.
NATO always but always attacked the Christian Serbs.
From a very anti Serb Wikipedia there is this from the infamous Islamic Declaration by Izetbegovic…
“Muslim nations will never accept anything that is explicitly against Islam, because Islam here is not merely a faith and the law, Islam has become love and compassion. One who rises against Islam will reap nothing but hate and resistance.
In perspective, there is but one way out in sight: creation and gathering of a new intelligence which thinks and feels along Islamic lines. This intelligence would then raise the flag of the Islamic order and together with the Muslim masses embark into action to implement this order.
The upbringing of the nation, and especially the mass media – the press, TV and film – should be in the hands of people whose Islamic moral and intellectual authority is undisputed.”
The language is a little cloaked but we know he is calling for war, Sharia and Savagery.
This was to lead on to the ruling classes in the world such as Merkel joining so forcefully with Sharia, well some 15 years later, but I argue there is a continuity.
And you Wellington and others here great anti Jihadists that you have actually supported that Islamist.
There is a little dichotomy here! No!
Felix Quigley says
China is madness as well as Stalinism. It has engaged in a crazy dash to follow the world capitalist market. I do not wish to think what this has done to the environment. All both the capitalist market and the Chinese programme are built it appears to me on very shaky subtructure. I do not know what will be the outcome but fear it may not be good
gravenimage says
Felix Quigley wrote:
Eating of meat involves the killing of animals. The killing of animals makes us into savages. And it is not necessary. Science has moved on greatly in the production of real meat which is an alternative to animal meat. Such a new world will require education not force but surely it is to be considered not sneered at.
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As I noted, I am an ethical vegetarian. but the idea that all savagery stems from eating meat simply makes no sense historically. All societies which eat meat–virtually all of them–are not equally violent.
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NATO did not attack the Islamist side in Yugoslavia. The Muslims were led by Izetbegovic who was an extreme Islamist.
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I do think that NATO’s actions in Yugoslavia were mistaken. This was a Jihad against Serbs and Croats and other Infidels.
And no–it is of course not the case that all Anti-Jihadists agree with NATO’s actions.
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China is madness as well as Stalinism. It has engaged in a crazy dash to follow the world capitalist market. I do not wish to think what this has done to the environment. All both the capitalist market and the Chinese programme are built it appears to me on very shaky subtructure. I do not know what will be the outcome but fear it may not be good
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China today is not “capitalist”–there is no free market there, and certainly not a democratic political system.
And China under Mao was also hideous–as if the “Cultural Revolution” was anything but horrifying.
gravenimage says
Oh, good grief–I see that Felix Quigley is ranting against staunch Anti-Jihadists Robert Spencer and Wellington. Why would he want to be the “greatest nightmare” of people who stand against Jihad?
As for his “representing socialist revolution”, he can knock himself out. No Western nation is exactly ripe for a socialst revolution.
He can join the other handful of losers hanging out at Revolution Books in Berkeley who are “prepared to do it”.
And if Ireland were truly close to his heart, he wouldn’t want to turn it into a sh*thole like Cuba or North Korea.
Morevover, socialist countries like China, Cuba, and Venezuala often enjoy playing footsie with Islamic hell holes–this should not surprise. They are all unfree.
He wrote:
Ireland under true socialist leadership has no need for one immigrant. From anywhere.
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I think he means that under “socialist leadership” that Ireland wouldn’t *attract* one immigrant, which is a rather different matter. After all, how many people are clamoring to get into North Korea?
He’s also made the ludicrous claim before that socialist countries are more ecological than are capitalist ones, but this is obvious bs. Places like China and the Soviet Union had the worst environmental records imaginable.
And I’m a vegegtarian–I have no interest in forcing others to go meatless. But then, i actually care about freedom.
Felix Quigley says
What has your hatred of Islam to do with your hatred of socialism. Mohammed and Marx were on opposite sides.
By showing your continually hatred for socialism what are you trying to do and say by linking Islam with Socialism?
As regards these countries you quote as being socialist you seem not to have developed to the point of understanding the concept/phenomenon of Stalinism.
But I do not want to be drawn away from the Yugoslavia issue.
Felix Quigley says
“He wrote:
Ireland under true socialist leadership has no need for one immigrant. From anywhere.
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I think he means that under “socialist leadership” that Ireland wouldn’t *attract* one immigrant, which is a rather different matter. After all, how many people are clamoring to get into North Korea?”
No I mean what I say. In the present situation Ireland does not need any immigrants, there are youth unemployed who need to be trained etcetera. Why do you use mocking language to reply to this simple and in my opinion legitimate idea?
gravenimage says
Felix Quigley wrote:
What has your hatred of Islam to do with your hatred of socialism. Mohammed and Marx were on opposite sides.
By showing your continually hatred for socialism what are you trying to do and say by linking Islam with Socialism?
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I am against totalitarianism in general–Fascism, Communism, and Islam are all unfree.
The idea that Islam and Communism are on “opposite sides” in any but the most superficial manner is absurd.
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As regards these countries you quote as being socialist you seem not to have developed to the point of understanding the concept/phenomenon of Stalinism.
But I do not want to be drawn away from the Yugoslavia issue.
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Stalinism is not different in any significant way from Maoism or any other form of Communism. Some of these nations are worse than others–as, say, North Korea or Cambodia under Pol Pot are worse than Venezuela or Cuba–or but only in that some of them apply Communism more rigorously than others.
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“He wrote:
Ireland under true socialist leadership has no need for one immigrant. From anywhere.
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I think he means that under “socialist leadership” that Ireland wouldn’t *attract* one immigrant, which is a rather different matter. After all, how many people are clamoring to get into North Korea?”
No I mean what I say. In the present situation Ireland does not need any immigrants, there are youth unemployed who need to be trained etcetera. Why do you use mocking language to reply to this simple and in my opinion legitimate idea?
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My meaning was also clear–that a Communist Ireland would be attractive to no one–not foreigners, and not the oppressed Irish themselves.
Of course, it is ridiculous to pretend this means that I am advocating for Muslims to flood into Ireland–one need only read my other posts on this thread to see that this is not the case.
Ireland does not need Muslims–no civilized nation does. They are a scourge wherever they go.
That does not mean that Ireland would be well off under another totalitarian creed, though.
Felix Quigley says
In reply to the piece by Gravenimage below which does not have a reply sign…
I am not into long comments using copy anf paste which many find boring. The essence of this issue is in these two paragraphs by Gravenimage…
quote…”I am against totalitarianism in general–Fascism, Communism, and Islam are all unfree.
The idea that Islam and Communism are on “opposite sides” in any but the most superficial manner is absurd.”
And the answer to this is that Jihadwatch is if the name is true a site which fights against Islam.
it has to become a site which fights against Islam.
That means there has to be a place, and a welcome place, for communists (Trotskyists) like me who is fighting as much and maybe more against Islam.
So the sentence above “I am against totalitarianism in general–Fascism, Communism, and Islam are all unfree” is against the interests of Jihadwatch, again if it is true to its title, and if it is not true to its title it is deceiving people.
And you say Fascism is “unfree” is that all you can say about Fascism?
And you claim communism is “unfree” and you mean Stalinism so very arguable.
And you say Islam is unfree? Unfree!
That is far too polite a word to use about Islam. Very inadequate word.
The word unfree could suggest a very strict parent.
How about understanding Islam not as “unfree” but as an ideology and practice that declares as enemy and makes war on all of humanity that does not convert to Islam.
But if you want to fight Fascism start a site of your own.
If you want to fight communism same thing, start a site of your own.
Do not latch it on to this site Jihadwatch which if true to its title is fighting Islam.
In other words you and Wellington start your own sites to fight communists through advocation of capitalism, and do not be loading your communist hating views onto Jihadwatch and on to the anti Jihad movement, of which by the way I am very firmly a part.
This applies also to Robert Spencer and countless others. I am in unity with all those and anybody else against Islam. But if Spencer wants to fight Communists start a new site and call it Communistwatch. OKAY problem solved!
And of course as I predicted and feared these guys have led us again away from discussing their record on Yugoslavia! Nice!
gravenimage says
Felix Quigley wrote:
The essence of this issue is in these two paragraphs by Gravenimage…
quote…”I am against totalitarianism in general–Fascism, Communism, and Islam are all unfree.
The idea that Islam and Communism are on “opposite sides” in any but the most superficial manner is absurd.”
And the answer to this is that Jihadwatch is if the name is true a site which fights against Islam.
it has to become a site which fights against Islam.
That means there has to be a place, and a welcome place, for communists (Trotskyists) like me who is fighting as much and maybe more against Islam.
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To the extent that you fight against Islam, I do indeed welcome you.
To the extent that you want to overthrow civilized democracy and impose the horrors of Communism on us, I do not.
This is *hardly* a contradiction.
After enough study, I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that the Allies allying with the Soviet Union against Nazi Germany was probably necessary.
That does not mean I have to pretend that Stalin was a good guy, or that I have to ignore the suffering in the Soviet Union or that would be imposed behind the Iron Curtain in Eastern Europe.
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So the sentence above “I am against totalitarianism in general–Fascism, Communism, and Islam are all unfree” is against the interests of Jihadwatch, again if it is true to its title, and if it is not true to its title it is deceiving people.
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What *absolute crap*. That some totalitarians sometimes oppose other totalitarians is indesputable–that this means we therefore have to pretend that totalitarianism is in the interests of Jihad Watch is grotesque.
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And you say Fascism is “unfree” is that all you can say about Fascism?
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Unlike you, I *greatly* esteem freedom–saying that Fascism is unfree is a *serious* criticism.
Of course, I can also say that Fascism is oppressive and brutal and murderous–as are Communism and Islam.
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And you claim communism is “unfree” and you mean Stalinism so very arguable.
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I have cited quite a few Communist countries–pretending that I am only refering to the Soviet Union under Stalin is absurd, although this was no doubt among the worst.
If you believe that China under Mao in the grip of the Cultural Revolution, or the “Dictatorship of the Wall” in Cuba, or the horrors of the Killing Fields in Cambodia were good things, *I do not*.
And you may put sneer quote around “unfree”, but some of us actually consider freedom to be important.
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And you say Islam is unfree? Unfree!
That is far too polite a word to use about Islam. Very inadequate word.
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Yes, we all know that you do not esteem freedom–but I do not consider this a small thing.
Islam *is* unfree–it is also oppressive, brutal, and murderous.
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The word unfree could suggest a very strict parent.
How about understanding Islam not as “unfree” but as an ideology and practice that declares as enemy and makes war on all of humanity that does not convert to Islam.
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Demanding that I ignore the fact that Islam is unfree is grotesque.
As for pretending I don’t know that Islam wages war on all who do not submit to Islam, this is dishonest. Anyone who has the most glancing familiarity with my posting history knows this is quite false.
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But if you want to fight Fascism start a site of your own.
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Implying that Jihad Watch is for Fascism is just vicious calumny. In fact, the similarities and alliances between Fascism and Islam are frequently noted here, most often by Robert Spencer himself.
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If you want to fight communism same thing, start a site of your own.
Do not latch it on to this site Jihadwatch which if true to its title is fighting Islam.
In other words you and Wellington start your own sites to fight communists through advocation of capitalism, and do not be loading your communist hating views onto Jihadwatch and on to the anti Jihad movement, of which by the way I am very firmly a part.
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Well, this is ridiculous. Clearly, you believe that Jihad Watch should serve as a platform for advocting the violent overthrow of freedom and imposition of Communism.
Neither Wellington nor myself have ever just launched into crititism of Communism, since this is not the main focus of Jihad Watch–we have only replied to your calls for the destruction of freedom.
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This applies also to Robert Spencer and countless others. I am in unity with all those and anybody else against Islam. But if Spencer wants to fight Communists start a new site and call it Communistwatch. OKAY problem solved!
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There is a “Contact Us” box on the right side of page, if you want to demand that neither Robert Spencer nor any commenters here be allowed to comment on freedom. I’m sure he will give your demands due consideration.
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And of course as I predicted and feared these guys have led us again away from discussing their record on Yugoslavia! Nice!
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Actually, I did address this elsewhere on this thread.
Certainly, I am not preventing you from further commenting on this subject–where did you get this idea?
FYI says
Project Ireland 2040 will destroy Ireland.
Thank goodness there are people at JW and Breitbart who have noticed this.
It is unlikely that most people in Ireland even know about such a criminal.treasonous plan.Have THEY been consulted?
No doubt Merkel{the 2010 coudenhove -kalergi prize medal winner:that’s the pro-mass immigration plan behind the EU}had her hand in it.
The treasonous criminality of the political Quislings in Europe…no doubt Ireland’s half-Indian leader Leo Varadkar will be the poster boy for the new wave of immigrants.
Felix Quigley says
“It is unlikely that most people in Ireland even know about such a criminal.treasonous plan.Have THEY been consulted?”
You are right they do not know. Expect the Media to lead on a path which totally obscures what is happening.
Can we build an alternative is the question?
UNCLE VLADDI says
Now THIS could be interesting! I can’t see the Micks, with their own history of terroristic responses to oppression, putting up with being diluted by muslim foreigners, any more than they put up with being diluted by Brits! Perhaps at last we’ll see an appropriate response from a Western populace – one their globalist patsy “leaders” might even listen to!
gravenimage says
Of course, the IRA often allied with Islamist terror groups like the PLO…
Felix Quigley says
By IRA and Adams/Mary Lou you do mean Sinn Fein right?
Your comment in inadequate on two scores. One it leaves out the issue of HOW the Palestinian Arab Narrative was sold, with heavy emphasis in Ireland on “emigration”. TWO the IRA of then is not the IRA of today.
This applies to previous comment of “Vladdi” also. Sinn Fein are now PART OF the Islam attack on Ireland.
Over to you on Jihadwatch…Please state what leadership in Ireland will fight against Islam? This IS an issue!
gravenimage says
No, my saying that the IRA has allies with the PLO is not “inadequate”–there is a long and amply chronicled history of this alliance:
“IRA-PLO Cooperation: A Long, Cozy Relationship”
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/IRA-PLO-cooperation-A-long-cozy-relationship
I don’t know of many in the Irish government who stand agains the threat of Islam–Dublin Councillor Brian Murphy sounds good, though:
https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/councillor-brian-murphy-fine-gael-13583436
Christian Adams says
Why don’t they spend the damn money on tax incentives and breaks for the Irish people to have more kids?
EYESOPEN says
“The utopian belief is that — despite all disastrous evidence to the contrary — Muslim migrants will assimilate, find jobs and become responsible citizens who will start paying taxes to finance their new countries’ leftist dependence on social welfare.”
That is not the real reason for the invasion. That’s just the globalist LIE being used at this time. This is the REAL reason for the invasion:
The so-called “refugee” invasion and the continued toleration of the INVASION of aliens (legal and illegal) – particularly from Third World countries – constitute the “shock troops” of the globalist, oligarch “New World Ordure” cabal. The plan: destroy whatever hegemony the nations of the West still retain. Destroy – with their “diversity” – their ability to be self-governing. Destroy their sovereignty. Cause as much strife, economic hardship, crime, mayhem and murder as possible. The brainwashed zombies of the Left are just the current “useful idiots” helping this to occur.
When the situation gets bad enough the sheeple of the once-free nations of the West will beg their so-called “leaders” to “do something”. Then the NWO cabal will come out with their “solution”: WORLD GOVERNMENT. (Translated: enslavement of all who are not part of their cabal or the government drones that do their dirty work.)
“The Decline and Fall of American Nationhood”
http://canadafreepress.com/article/the-decline-and-fall-of-american-nationhood
“Refugee Crisis: Using Chaos to build Power”
https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/22793-refugee-crisis-using-chaos-to-build-power
“UN-‘Together’: Propaganda Bid Seeks to Flood West With Migrants”
https://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=25414:un-together-propaganda-bid-seeks-to-flood-west-with-migrants
“New UN Chief to Europe: Ignore Voters. Open the Borders”
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/24744-new-un-chief-to-europe-ignore-voters-open-the-borders
“EU Insider: US Must Take More Refugees – Get Rid of Sovereignty”
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/item/21730-insider-eu-u-s-must-take-more-refugees-get-rid-of-sovereignty
“Soros and CFR Exploit Refugee Crisis for New World Order”
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/22447-soros-and-cfr-exploit-refugee-crisis-for-new-world-order
“Hungarian PM: Mass Migration A Plot To Destroy Christian West”
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/22853-hungarian-pm-mass-migration-a-plot-to-destroy-christian-west
“Soros Hack Reveals Plot Behind Europe’s Refugee Crisis, Media Funding and Manipulation”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-16/soros-hack-reveals-plot-behind-europes-refugee-crisis-media-funding-and-manipulation
Global Free Movement: UN Chief Calls Migration a ‘Right’ in a ‘World on the Move’
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/12/20/un-director-general-calls-migration-right-world-move/
“New United Nations Boss Unveils Plan to Promote Global Mass Migration”
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/01/12/new-united-nations-boss-plan-promote-global-mass-migration/
John says
those of you who don’t or refuse to believe this is all a part of a larger plan organized by THE Elite hell bent on starting a third world war where muslims will be their proxies to trigger it need to wake up.
http://www.westernspring.co.uk/the-coudenhove-kalergi-plan-the-genocide-of-the-peoples-of-europe/
http://www.tomatobubble.com/id979.html
http://humansarefree.com/2011/03/3-world-wars-planned-by-illuminati.html
gravenimage says
The Illuminati?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b01oJTiQ4eQ
Felix Quigley says
It is a big struggle that lies ahead. I was attacked by somebody under a pseudonym on Jihadwatch yesterday, bitter words. This person and he was only one did not read what I wrote. He saw the word socialist and then launched. So the problem is there too at the centre of Jihadwatch and such sites.
This is a url. Do not bother. The video has been removed. (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xolfng) It is linked to this which I saw on the Ballyhaunis Mosque Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/Ballyhaunis.Islamic.and.Cultural.Society/posts/130926650314284
That is useful, is on their Facebook and the RT lady points out that there is conversion in UK to Islam, and the figure of 62 per cent of British females breakdown.
All of the Ballyhaunis Mosque has soapy extracts, no source, almost like a priest at Sunday mass, not much difference, but until you learn to understand the HISTORY OF ISLAM…then it all is different.
I see the issue as
1. organization…a party…a new party
2. activity among the people to teach and explain this reality
That is a very big struggle right there
https://www.facebook.com/Ballyhaunis.Islamic.and.Cultural.Society/posts/130926650314284
Wellington says
I suspect you’re referring to me, Felix Quiglley. If so (and if not, then disregard the rest I am about to write here), then why not refute my contentions point by point?
Instead, you went into self-pity mode. How pathetic. Ah, let’s have a pity-party for Felix Quigley. Oh yeah, let’s.
Did I really attack you, even though you yourself initiated an attack on me? No, I didn’t even have you in mind (who of sense and knowledge would?) but merely attempted to refute you point by point after you took me on. I claimed no victim status (N.B., only snowflakes do); I never have here at JW but you certainly have.
Your turn. And let me make one thing very clear, to wit, I think you can dish things out without being able to take things dished towards you, for instance your moronic socialism (excuse the redundancy), your castigation of NATO, and, finally, what strikes me as your intent to impose vegetarianism on all of the human species (or at least on all of the Irish). Pardon me now while I go digest a fine salami hoagie.
Your turn. That is if you are able.
Felix Quigley says
Wellington…I was referring to another commenter. It was an amazing comment. Wish I had recorded it. But it was typical of a lot of the stuff I read on some sites today. I think it was removed.
Felix Quigley says
I know a little about RT but not too much. I do not like or agree with a bias against Israel whereas I think socialists should be unambiguous and for Israel in the broadest terms. Always! There may be episodic differences but that is always the way in everything.
If this lady on the video above from RT is giving us important info about Islam and if Russia has also a serious problem do you on JW not think of getting closer WHILE ALWAYS MAINTAINING YOUR OWN IDENTITY AND INDEPENDENCE
gravenimage says
Of course Russia has a serious problem with Islam–as does much of Dar-al-Harb.
Putin is involved in much the same apeasement as is much of the West. It is even worse in some cases, with his enabling a nuclear Iran and winking at full Shari’ah law in Chechnya.
Felix Quigley says
The position of Putin is distinct from the “West” and this was shown in that Putin and China voted for the no fly zone against Gadhafi UN Resolution but later very much regretted. That led to the defeat and murder of Gadhafi and then led into ISIS. That was Obama, Clinton. Sarkozy and Cameron especially who promoted that.
As Obama was arming ISIS through the New Syrian Army Putin was aiming to defeat ISIS.
Having said that Putin is Putin he is not Leon Trotsky.
Do you support Putin in Syria? Do you defend Assad?
gravenimage says
Felix Quigley wrote:
The position of Putin is distinct from the “West” and this was shown in that Putin and China voted for the no fly zone against Gadhafi UN Resolution but later very much regretted. That led to the defeat and murder of Gadhafi and then led into ISIS. That was Obama, Clinton. Sarkozy and Cameron especially who promoted that.
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As bad as things are in the West, there are no full Shari’ah states here–would that we could say the same for Russia with Chechnya.
There is no doubt that things in Libya are even worse than they were under Gadhafi–but he was a Jihadist himself.
And no–the West, whatever its mistakes, did not create ISIS. ISIS is entirely Islamic.
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As Obama was arming ISIS through the New Syrian Army Putin was aiming to defeat ISIS.
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And under Trump ISIS has been largely defeated territorially. Surely anyone who opposes Islam would consider this a good thing?
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Having said that Putin is Putin he is not Leon Trotsky.
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Well, *that’s* true. However authoritarian Putin is, at least he is not trying to impose Communism globally.
Of course, I’m sure you prefer worldwide slavery. Trotsky loved “Red Terrorism”.
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Do you support Putin in Syria? Do you defend Assad?
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As I have said many times before here, those who oppose Assad are even worse than he is–so I defend Assad to this extent.
But Putin’s support for Hizb’allah and a nuclear Iran are not good things, either.
Really, Shia Islam is little different than Sunni–they both have the same goals.
Felix Quigley says
In reply to the comment by Gravenimage below…
Again I wish not to copy and paste huge blabs
But this is the heart of it…
“There is no doubt that things in Libya are even worse than they were under Gadhafi–but he was a Jihadist himself.
And no–the West, whatever its mistakes, did not create ISIS. ISIS is entirely Islamic.”
Well this is real slick stuff from Gravenimage.
Yes it is entirely TRUE that ISIS is entirely Islamic. This is a very important concept. I fight on this all of the time.
But there is no contradiction in what I said. The “West” as you put it helped ISIS!
Gravenimage from what you write you also conflict with these…Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller may have once held this position but I think they changed fundamentally.
You have not changed!
That is the problem!
When you are claiming that Gadhafi was also a “Jihadist” you are robbing the language of all meaning. You divorce language from reality.
These kinds of Arab rulers such as Gadhafi while using the Antisemitism of the hate Israel uniting call, they have always been very aware and wary of the Jihadist impulse.
This was seen very early on when Nasser in the words of Wikipedia “Nasser would go the house of Syed Qutb and ask him for ideas about the Revolution” but there came a time, inevitible in my opinion, when Nasser hung the Jihadist Qutb.
Why? Essentially because Nasser was in total conflict with The Muslim Brotherhood.
And you Gravenimage suggest there is no real conflict going on!!!
In much the same way Gadhafi learned to see The Muslim Brotherhood as being his main enemy.
So that was the material basis for actually making a deal with Blair and George W. Bush.
That deal was betrayed as we know by Cameron, Sarkozy and Obama. It was mainly the former two who broke that deal.
Again your reading of Trump is far from the truth. Funny how you always lead away from truth, in everything.
Obama had been backing the New Syrian Army which was in turn morphing into ISIS.
Trump saw this and saw that it was only Assad and Russia which were stopping ISIS.
On the night of the election Trump actually proposed doing an open deal with Assad and Russia on that.
If that had been done I think that Hezbollah and Iran would have been pushed out of the situation.
But Trump despite great bluster is often weak in essence. He did not follow through.
But he was right initially. Obama had been helping ISIS. Certainly also Cameron and Sarkozy. Anybody with eyes open could see that only Assad was fighting against ISIS to help the Alawites of course, but also Christians (who stated it openly) and Yazedis.
To sum up you are wrong on everything which is a habit of yours. Wrong on ISIS. The fight against ISIS was taken up by Assad and Russia came to his aid. Obama was aiding ISIS quite directly. You seem to negate the importance of the Nasser Qutb relationship which ended in a hanging. You minimise the intervention of these countries around US and UK as they intervened on behalf of the Jihad (Arab Spring) to overthrow traditional leaders in the mould of Nasser.
I am not suggesting I am a fan of Nasser or any ruler. I am just saying get your facts straight and do not introduce lies about history by sleight of hand.
gravenimage says
Felix Quigley wrote, quoting myself:
“There is no doubt that things in Libya are even worse than they were under Gadhafi–but he was a Jihadist himself.
And no–the West, whatever its mistakes, did not create ISIS. ISIS is entirely Islamic.”
Well this is real slick stuff from Gravenimage.
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“Slick”? No, just truthful and accurate.
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Yes it is entirely TRUE that ISIS is entirely Islamic. This is a very important concept. I fight on this all of the time.
But there is no contradiction in what I said. The “West” as you put it helped ISIS!
Gravenimage from what you write you also conflict with these…Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller may have once held this position but I think they changed fundamentally.
You have not changed!
That is the problem!
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Wait–what have Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller supposedly changed their minds about? That ISIS is not Islamic?
Here’s Robert Spencer on “Why ISIS is Islamic”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw9lG83lr0s
I do not believe he has changed him mind on this. Links, please.
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When you are claiming that Gadhafi was also a “Jihadist” you are robbing the language of all meaning. You divorce language from reality.
These kinds of Arab rulers such as Gadhafi while using the Antisemitism of the hate Israel uniting call, they have always been very aware and wary of the Jihadist impulse.
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Well, this is *just sickening*. Why is Felix Quigley pretending that the horror of Lockerbie was not Jihad terror?
Two hundred and seventy-one people were murdered in this Jihad terror attack. Demanding that we wink at this is *grotesque*.
And Jihad Watch extensively covered the travesty of supposedly terminally-ill Lockerbie bomber Abdul Baset Ali al-Megrahi being released to Libya under Gadhafi:
“Surprise, surprise: Lockerbie bomber disappears”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/12/surprise-surprise-lockerbie-bomber-disappears
I also not how he minimizes murderous antisemitism and askes that we wink at that, as well.
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This was seen very early on when Nasser in the words of Wikipedia “Nasser would go the house of Syed Qutb and ask him for ideas about the Revolution” but there came a time, inevitible in my opinion, when Nasser hung the Jihadist Qutb.
Why? Essentially because Nasser was in total conflict with The Muslim Brotherhood.
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This is not unusual–Muslims consider each other “insuficiently Islamic” all the time. Nasser just was not deemed Islamic enough by the Muslim Brotherhood.
There is even an Islamic doctrine that covers this–Takfir–whereby Muslims can declare each other essencially non-Muslim, and hence fair game for treatment like any other Infidel.
Why would Felix Quigley think we would not know this?
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And you Gravenimage suggest there is no real conflict going on!!!
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When have I *ever* said there is no conflict going on? Islam is so savage that it targets both Infidels and other Muslims for being the wrong sect, for being “heretical”, or for not being Islamic enough.
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In much the same way Gadhafi learned to see The Muslim Brotherhood as being his main enemy.
So that was the material basis for actually making a deal with Blair and George W. Bush.
That deal was betrayed as we know by Cameron, Sarkozy and Obama. It was mainly the former two who broke that deal.
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Gadhafi considering the Muslim Brotherhood a threat does not mean he was Anti-Jihad.
Were this true, then Jihad-sponsoring states like Pakistan, Iran, and Saudi Arabiia–who have all at times acted to put down internal Jihadists directly threatening their rule–would all have to be considered Anit-Jihadists, as well. Clearly absurd.
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Again your reading of Trump is far from the truth. Funny how you always lead away from truth, in everything…
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I have often criticized Trump for not following through on things, and or not knowing enough about Islam.
But no–I don’t consider his actions against ISIS to be a bad thing.
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To sum up you are wrong on everything which is a habit of yours. Wrong on ISIS. The fight against ISIS was taken up by Assad and Russia came to his aid. Obama was aiding ISIS quite directly.
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ISIS and other Sunni Jihadists are definetly a threat to Assad, who–as I have noted–is better than what would likely replace him.
Assad has also been involved in Jihad against Isreal–not actually a good thing, in my estimation.
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You seem to negate the importance of the Nasser Qutb relationship which ended in a hanging.
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Actually, I had not replied about this–indeed, Felix Quigley had not even waited for a reply–so this has no basis.
But Muslim countries have often executed Jihadists who are directly threatening their rule–this is hardly unusual, nor is this the first time I have noted this.
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You minimise the intervention of these countries around US and UK as they intervened on behalf of the Jihad (Arab Spring) to overthrow traditional leaders in the mould of Nasser.
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No–I criticized the West for foolishly thinking the “Arab Spring” was about freedom and democracy at the time, and ever since. Why is Felix Quigley pretending this is not so?
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I am not suggesting I am a fan of Nasser or any ruler. I am just saying get your facts straight and do not introduce lies about history by sleight of hand.
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Note that Felix Quigley has not been able to point to anything I said that was not true.
Certainly, Nasser would be less bad than many Muslim leaders today–except for his trying to destroy Israel (funny that Felix Quigley keeps asking us to wink at that). But this is a moot point–how many Muslim leaders like him are still around? Nasser died almost fifty years ago.
sean walsh says
As an Irish person, I can tell people the general population. Are not a bit happy with this out come. And as for groups of African gangs terrorising Dublin, it’s a well-known fact but the media are saying nothing about it. The garda is doing nothing so ordinary people are going out and breaking them up. But that only moves the problem on to some one else. Even as it is Irish people have had enoughts
gravenimage says
Here’s one story:
“YOB FEARS–Schoolboy gangs who are ‘terrorising’ west Dublin locals and targeting taxi drivers being ‘left to run amok’ by gardai”
https://www.thesun.ie/news/2048259/schoolboy-gangs-who-are-terrorising-west-dublin-locals-and-targeting-taxi-drivers-being-left-to-run-amok-by-gardai/
You have to read pretty far into the article before you find that these “Irish schoolboys” are actually African immigrants:
We can reveal that the gang, with African origins, are running rampant in communities all over the capital, with gardai insisting “they don’t fear or respect us anymore”.
Most of these are Muslims, of course.
Felix Quigley says
Gravenimage you write of these gangs in Blanchardstown BUT WHAT ANSWERS DO YOU HAVE?
“Most of these are Muslims, of course.”
The arrival of the Mosque in Ireland IS the problem. But you have no proof or even knowledge of any kind that these Africans are Muslims.
This is the problem. You have no knowledge. You chance your arm continually.
The problem that Sean Walsh alludes to is that Ireland is in a mess and that mess is in fact the whole of the Irish capitalist enterprise.
You have in power the most pro capitalist party ever, Fine Gael.
The TD in Blanchardstown is Fianna Fail Jack Chambers (photo in the article)
This is Irish capitalism total and complete.
The two main Irish capitalist parties.
Then loosely the “left” Sinn Fein…in alliance with immigration.
The fake left adapts to capitalism, that is to capitalist Ireland.
But the basic problem in Ireland which James Connolly for all his weaknesses did see was capitalism.
And the answer was only one for the working class to take the power into its hands. In other words Sean accept it or fight for socialist revolution in Ireland.
gravenimage says
Felix Quigley wrote:
Gravenimage you write of these gangs in Blanchardstown BUT WHAT ANSWERS DO YOU HAVE?
“Most of these are Muslims, of course.”
The arrival of the Mosque in Ireland IS the problem. But you have no proof or even knowledge of any kind that these Africans are Muslims.
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It is very difficult to get firm stats re Ireland–because Irish authorities are not keeping them.
But Wikipedia notes that over half of Muslims in Ireland are from Asia or Africa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland
So–it is not certain that these extremely aggressive African youth gangs are Muslim–but it is indeed quite likely.
In fact, Muslim gangs are a problem all over Europe, despite what Felix Qugley pretends.
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This is the problem. You have no knowledge. You chance your arm continually.
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I “chance my arm”? Is this a colloquialism?
Oh, wait–I found it:
http://www.grammar-monster.com/sayings_proverbs/chance_your_arm.htm
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The problem that Sean Walsh alludes to is that Ireland is in a mess and that mess is in fact the whole of the Irish capitalist enterprise.
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Oh, good grief. The problem is having let in hordes of Muslim invaders, not that Ireland practices free trade.
The idea that violent Muslim youth gangs are an intrinsic part of Capitalism is, of course, quite silly.
And this imposition of mass immigration–which no one in Ireland asked for–is not democratic at all. Just the opposite.
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And the answer was only one for the working class to take the power into its hands. In other words Sean accept it or fight for socialist revolution in Ireland.
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Ah–right. Of course, Eurpope never had a problem with Jihad terror until it began letting in Muslims, no matter their political systems–but Felix Quigley has to pretend that only by imposing a different totalitarian system will things be OK.
He should speak with his fellow Socialists in Venezuela. Hugo Chávez liked playing footsie with the hideous Islamic Republic of Iran, and Muslim immigration is increasing under Socialism.
Venezuela now has a Muslim Vice President–Tareck Zaidan El Aissami–and the powers of the Vice Presidency have been much expanded under him.
His father wrote an article titled “Proud to be a Taliban”.
He is also personally enabling thousands of people from terror-sponsiring countries like Syria, Egypt, Pakistan, and Lebanon to flood into Venezuela.
Hizb’allah now has a solid foothold in the country, and not only are Jihad terrorists coming into the country, but Hizb’allah there is sending money to Jihad terror groups in the Middle East.
I do not actually comsider these good things.
As for what answers I have, I have long said that more people have to stand up and defend their values and societies from Muslim savagery, to educate about the threat of Islam, and to encourage good, Islamosavvy people to run for office, and to vote for them.
There is no doubt that this is difficult now–how much harder would it be under a dictatorship?
w. kennedy says
People who live as full time welfare tend to believe EVERYONE deserves to also be on welfare, they tend to support the idea that immigrants deserve it as well. Landlords want more as it keeps vacancies down and rents high. Russian Czar got on a hit list as they were resisting the international Reserve banking system. So they fomented the Russian revolution and probably the Chinese as well. The cheapest gov. is Communism and the NWO is intended to be that for the masses. Their will be no Nations but a world gov. where the people who have the money now will not be inconvenienced by borders. Unelected corporate control like the prototype EU. You will be supplemented by groups that speed up the fall of nationhood and the now evil UN will move in after nations fall to implement the NWOrder. The UN [under pressure of the factions of “Jews” that are not by DNA Jewish but do control the banking cabals that won the ‘Monopoly” game] set up the state of Israel in 1948 starting conflict in the middle east and as it is going it seems to be an evacuation program. Millions shipped out to bring down mostly white nations. Africa is taking white farming land and killed some 70/90 thousand so far in three nations including S. Africa. but they think they are entitled to swarm out of Africa to overwhelm other nations. Canada started upping migrations in 70ties early arrivals were middle class and infiltrated gov., military and police in preparation for the retirement programs for field solders taking place presently.
gravenimage says
I’m not going to parse though all of this tripe, but I see we have an idiot here who is ranting about the Jews and thinks that Islam is fine but that democratic Israel ‘started conflict in the middle east’. *Good grief*…
Felix Quigley says
“Russian Czar got on a hit list as they were resisting the international Reserve banking system. So they fomented the Russian revolution and probably the Chinese as well.”
That is such manure. Note I do not say cow. I will not insult an animal.
You follow too much David Icke or the former Jones.
You make up your own history. The Russian Czar Nicholas was resisting nothing. He was paralysed by the force of the world crisis and the revolution growing under his feet.
Like Icke you rewrite history. Prove through facts one thing you claim.
Shimrit Manning says
Imagine the plan the EU set for its own (our) destruction: Each member state to recieve 1 million immigrant, in total 27 millions uneducated, Sharia adherents. ?!?!
Felix Quigley says
OUR IRISH INDEPENDENCE
“Unveiled by the government last week with a commitment to spend €116 billion, the document outlines plans to boost the Irish nation’s 4.7 million population by another million using mass migration.”
Christine on Jihadwatch
I am speaking here for The Young Socialists, whose root is Trotskyism and Bolshevism.
I am opposed to many of the views on this thread. The issue is the Independence of our country. We have fought over generations to be independent from British Royalty and later British Imperialism. But now Ireland is very simply not independent rather it is a toady of the EU. Joined at the hip with criminal Merkel!
So the very first step to be taken is create independence by getting out of the EU. To be free once again Ireland must get out of the EU. That is the number one target.
There is no leadership to fight this in Ireland. There is no “left” and the rest are toadies of the system, Fine Gael, Fainna Fail, Labour Party, Sinn Fein, even SWP is in the Dail.
There must be a Bolshevik revolutionary party in Ireland.
1. Ireland is already overcrowded
2. There are Irish youth unemployed, there are Irish elderly living in poor conditions
Ireland must take in no refugees whatsoever. From anywhere! There is no need. There are already youth unemployed who need to be trained.
Above all no Muslim must enter into Ireland, all Muslims here must be kicked out on the basis of the actions of ISIS and their connection through religion to ISIS.
At the same time every mosque must be flattened. This is on the basis of the bloodthirsty history of Islam as well of course of our human recent experience of ISIS.
Full stop! No argument!
gravenimage says
Of course, there *is* a Trotskyite Revolutionary party in Ireland–the Socialist Party. They are not exactly against Muslim immigration:
“#Refugeelivesmatter- Defend the right to asylum”
http://socialistparty.ie/2015/09/refugeelivesmatter-defend-the-right-to-asylum/
They posit any resistance to mass immigration as “racist”, and laud Germany and Austria for allowing in hordes of ravening Muslims.
Here is more:
“Trump’s victory in the presidential election was a profound shock to tens of millions of progressive workers, young people, immigrants, women, people of color, Muslims, and LGBTQ people across the U.S….”
http://socialistparty.ie/tag/alt-right/
They are also for the Jihad against Israel:
http://socialistparty.ie/2018/01/
Felix Quigley says
Just one more group of this “left” we have today.
quote…”“Trump’s victory in the presidential election was a profound shock to tens of millions of progressive workers, young people, immigrants, women, people of color, Muslims, and LGBTQ people across the U.S….”
http://socialistparty.ie/tag/alt-right/
Wrong on every count and also on Israel. The victory of Trump as the “Memo” showed clearly prevented a real coup situation, where Clinton moved to employ treacherous forces, linked to the FBI/CIA, to destroy election democracy and destroy the Constitution…
They are a real danger to the name and history of actual socialism as I read history.
It needs a very long answer (sadly)
gravenimage says
So now even the Socialist Party does not represent real Socialism, mor does any Communist nation in history…
gravenimage says
nor
Felix Quigley says
For those flunkeys of Robert Spencer above who have tried to slander me I fight on the basis of a United Front against Islam and Jihad with Spencer and many others. Regardless of how much he slanders Bolshevism, Leninism and Trotskyism,that is socialism and communism, I will defend Spencer from the Islamic Jihad. Called principle!
gravenimage says
I also want to see Feliz Quigley safe from the depredations of Jihadists.
My not wanting to see him turn the world into a Communist hellhole does not, of course, change that.
That is also called principle.
Felix Quigley says
There must be a unity in the fight against Islam. I do not know how far or how fast the ruling elites in countries like Germany, the UK, and in US (especially the Democrats and McCain types) will move to repress criticism of Islam. This may be a road to Fascist dictatorship. An example of the need for unity is the attack on Garland, the decision of UK to ban Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, the attacks on Tommy Robinson and others in UK. In other words defend the discussion. It is an old principle. There may be political differences but if there is no discussion it is all over. Freedom of discussion is a key issue.
gravenimage says
In your post, you criticize Fascism–as do I.
But according to your own arguments, you should not do this, because some Fascists might oppose Islam.
Sorry–I still don’t see a persuasive argument that I not be allowed to speak critically of the horrors of Communism, as well as those of Islam.
BRIAN MORGAN says
More insanity from the left leaning wingnuts who run Ireland, Scotland and Wales, this is Socialism at it’s worst. They care nothing about there own people, Bringing Islam into a Christian country is total INSANITY, these Muslim are not there to mix with the Irish or Scottish or Welsh population’s but are their to be INVADERS, who want to impose there own Laws and to hell with everyone else.
Bacherbazistan says
This is Einstein’s definition of madness Irish style, we repeat other peoples mistakes and expect a different result. It’s as if we’ve learned nothing from the Hijrah nightmare of Germany, Sweden, France, UK etc. If we need more people in Ireland we should encourage native Irish people to have larger families e.g. 4-5 children per family, and encourage Irish people overseas to return home.
If we must have refugees, how about white South Africans? They would be genuine refugees as they are in serious danger of genocide, many of them would have skills that we need, and they should be a better cultural fit.
Felix Quigley says
“It’s important to remember that there was a rapid change in the social environment here and maybe older people are becoming intimidated by the size of the gangs on the streets even though they’re not always trying to cause any harm.
“Cultural differences might mean a gang of teenagers may not feel the need to step aside as an old lady walks by, or lower their voices late at night.”
as quoted from The Sun (Irish Edition) by Jihadwatch
https://www.thesun.ie/news/2048259/schoolboy-gangs-who-are-terrorising-west-dublin-locals-and-targeting-taxi-drivers-being-left-to-run-amok-by-gardai/
There has been a coursening of Irish life for a very long time. You do not build huge horrific estates in these cities as in Dublin and expect no change.
The problem in Ireland is capitalism. It offers only misery.
Perhaps the reality is that the patient, capitalist Ireland, is already tottering. The gardai was already hard pressed. Then bring in these marauders, and if they are Muslim, Jihadist marauders, like the Jihadist Corsairs used to attack our shores and steal our women for sex slaves and youth to make into eunuchs, and the situation changes again.
Why do these marauders laugh at the police? Because the ruling class aided by the Catholic do gooders (research the Ballaghderrin Roscommon immigrants) invite the marauders in.
Capitalism also creates the “lumpen proletariat”. Marx hated this layer. There were gangs of Irish thugs already. I do believe this happens in UK too where these thugs actually work the drug trade with Muslims. This aspect of things is ignored by Jihadwatch. This may be happening in Blanchardstown.
Why would they not laugh at the Irish people?
The answer is simple. Find them. Expel them. For that you need a Revolutionary Workers Government in Ireland. The present capitalist elites will not.
Of course there are those who will object this is communism I “preach”…Not really I invite you to provider a solution!
Or shut up and accept it!
gravenimage says
Actually, “Jihad Watch” did not cite that story–I did. I very much support Jihad Watch, but I do not formally represent it in any way.
And no–African immigrant youth gangs–Muslim or otherwise–were not created by the “coarsening” of life in Ireland, nor can this be blamed on the Irish or anyone else building subsidized housing.
As for the “Lumpenproletariat”–the lower class lacking “class consciousness”–Stalin and others regularly had bloody purges of beggars and prostitutes.
Whatever the problems of the West, I don’t think we want to see this brutality against the poor here.
gravenimage says
As for solutions, we need to go on educating about the threat of Islam, voting in savvy politicians, stop Muslims flooding into our nations, and vigorously enforcing our own civilized laws.
*None* of this involves overthrowing democratic governments and imposing the horrors of Communism.
jan says
Bye bye Sweden, Germany, England, Holland and now Ireland.
You ask me ….. just distribute the 116 billion among the 4 million Irish people …. that would be 29.000 per head of the population, or 116 000 per family of 4. Now THAT would be one hell of a boost to the Irish economy. No need to import 1 million savages that will ultimately destroy EVERYTHING in Ireland and will reduce EVERYONE, including the immigrants themselves to the status of a beggar. But that of course is the ultimate goal of the f***ing scum in Brussels.
jan says
In Germany the direction of Daimler and Volkswagen supported Merkel’s immigration policy, they claimed they needed all those skilled immigrants. Now it turns out that they have employed exactly 55, yes you read that correctly FIFTYFIVE (!!!), out of the 1.500.000 immigrants. What are the going to do with the other 1.499.945 ??????
The answer is : PAMPER them. Germany spent 22 billion euro on accomodating them in 2017. They will suck the life out of the German economy !!!!
Afgan “refugees” (guys between 20 and 30 years of age, in fighting condition), are having a great time drinking coffee on the Kurfurstendamm in Berlin, paid by the German taxpayer, while German soldiers risk their lives in Afghanistan to liberate the country!!!
The leftiSSt scum has gone crazy to allow all this.
DMC says
Multiculturalism only exists in the west outside western countries it does not exist …
steve says
Merkel has opened the door of Southern Ireland-Eire to Islamic migrants. Eire will soon have a population of 40.000,000. All the Angry European Muslims could be persuaded to go and live in their own new Caliphate of ‘Irelandstan’. The North of Ireland will and must remain a civilised separate entity, they are built of sterner stuff, an oasis of common sense and Christian sensibility. A large wall will be essential between the Christian Eloi and the Muslim Morlocks. Sounds familiar, civilised Israel and the rest of the Muslim retardation is about to be repeated.