You remember when the NRA conquered all that territory and collected the jizya from non-NRA members. You remember when the NRA forced all those female non-NRA members into sex slavery. You remember the NRA’s series of grisly public beheadings. You remember when the NRA called upon its members to murder civilians in the U.S. and Europe by shooting them, or knifing them, or running over them with cars.
Michael Moore here demonstrates that he knows nothing about either the NRA or the Islamic State (ISIS).
“Michael Moore: NRA is Worse than ISIS,” by Jerome Hudson, Breitbart, February 24, 2018 (thanks to Ken):
Left-wing documentary filmmaker Michael Moore took to Twitter on Friday and urged the media to compare the National Rifle Association (NRA) to the murderous terrorist group ISIS.
“The NRA is a terrorist organization,” Moore wrote in a tweet that went viral. “The media should speak of the NRA in the same way they do ISIS.”
“Total ISIS-inspired deaths in US = 79,” the Academy Award-winner wrote, adding, “Thanks to the NRA & the politicians they buy, we’ve had 1.2 MILLION American gun deaths since John Lennon was shot dead in NYC #NRAKillsKids.”
Moore’s invective came more than a week after Nikolas Cruz allegedly shot 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.
While Moore, many in the mainstream media, and left-wing activists and politicians have blamed the NRA for last week’s deadly shooting, it has been revealed that there were more than enough warning signs — here and here — that, if investigated by the FBI and local authorities, could’ve thwarted Cruz….
Gjallarhornet says
He should have stopped making movies after ‘Roger and I’, which was a good movie, depicting the industrial decline in Michigan. Funny enough, the movie has *exactly* the same message as Donald Trump had in the election campaign, concerning the loss of American jobs for needless reasons.
Everything else More have done after that has been far beyond embarrassments.
CRUSADER says
I find that to be true, as well.
“Roger and Me” had a similar message as Trump.
Perhaps that MM could’ve found himself stumping for Trump then.
esther says
true—-time for Michael Moore to retire——–he did some “clever stuff”——but clever is
not genius and easily deflates
Simo Hayha says
“…..we’ve had 1.2 MILLION American gun deaths since John Lennon was shot dead in NYC”
Uh huh. Take away the thousands upon thousands of inner city drug and gang-related shootings, the large number of criminals shot by LEO, and the even LARGER number of criminals shot by LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS, then take suicides out of the calculations, and you have probably 1% or 2$ misuse of firearms by usually lawful citizens. And, BTW, NONE of the massacres here were EVER perpetrated by ANYONE who was an NRA MEMBER! Not ONE! Period!
john says
he dosent, seem do be deflating fat cunt.
Mark Swan says
The NRA has done so much for Gun Safety that our Nation could never thank them enough for this alone.
When bad people do bad things, they should be held accountable for it—not anyone else.
Disingenuous gibberish.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Yes Simo Hayha and all others,
Let’s pretend that guns don’t exist, then we can live in make believe land.
“Imagine there’s no firearms….o bad people too,
No one wants to rape women, ‘specially not you…..”
Mark Swan says
A century of sternly enforced drug prohibition has resulted in drugs being more available than ever. The fact should offer a caution to anyone who imagines that gun laws can succeed where drug laws have failed, and somehow keep a commodity away from a demented person who intends to abuse it.
The Political Machine…along with media allies may want to Imply that more Gun Control can help with gun violence…but more laws won’t help…we have very strict laws already in place…they, like drug laws, have not stopped this violence.
Gun control is not merely a wrong approach to violence. It is a formidable political obstacle to genuine solutions, because gun control offers political officials a high-profile (but empty) way to tell the public that the legislature is “doing something.”
Every gun control bill that is introduced, and every editorial demanding that we “do something about guns,” makes it that much harder to force the political system to do something real about dangerous people, to address the fundamental social pathologies.
It is long past time for us to stop fixating on the gun supply, and to start dealing with the persons who misuse guns, and the social conditions under which innocent babies grow in a few decades into a calloused murderer.
Lebel says
I have to agree with Robert Spencer here. This is ridiculous.
gravenimage says
This is a first…
Champ says
…and probably LAST.
Lebel says
No worries Champ, just practicing my taqqiya skills. Getting rusty in my old age even if I have achieved Level:Sheikh
Champ says
That’s great allah must be so proud of your achievements in lying …keep up the good work!
LeftisruiningCanada says
Lebel,
You are a past master by now.
Level: “prophet”
Alan Berger says
There he goes again! Are you kidding, worse then ISIS!! I mean, even the left has to stop & say, what the hell did he just say!!
This stuff has got to stop!!! It’s this type of untrue & hateful speak that’s tearing the very fabric of our beloved country apart!!
Savvy Kafir says
Alan — I’m a Lefty (and an NRA member), and these days, I’m not much surprised by anything said by Michael Moore or others of his ilk.
The politically correct, Islam-friendly, gun-hating SJWs of the Regressive Left have become completely unhinged.
CRUSADER says
A Lefty?
or
A Liberal?
Dennis Prager makes a major distinguishing line:
Leftism Is Not Liberalism – The Dennis Prager Show
http://www.dennisprager.com/leftism-is-not-liberalism/
Sep 12, 2017 – What is the difference between a leftist and a liberal? Answering this question is vital to understanding the crisis facing America and the West today. Yet few seem able to do it. I offer the following as a guide. Here’s the first thing to know: The two have almost nothing in common. On the contrary, liberalism …
Radio Show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nTMYEsomvc
Why I Left the Left (Prager U video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiVQ8vrGA_8
Karen says
Totally agree
Savvy Kafir says
CRUSADER — I understand the confusion regarding those of us on the political left who oppose Islam & political correctness, and who support & promote things like free speech, gun rights, & common sense. But there are a few of us Lefties who refuse to embrace every agenda or article of faith thrust upon us by the demented, totalitarian-minded leaders & mouthpieces of what we’ve come to call the “Regressive Left”.
In my book, “Intro to Islam: A Primer for Puzzled Progressives”, I’ve included a chapter titled “My Progressive Bona Fides”, in which I list the top 10 reasons I consider myself a progressive, rather than a conservative or (purely) libertarian.
Here are excerpts from the top four, to give you the gist of it:
1) I’m a forward-thinking person who believes in human progress — in a continual striving after intellectual, ethical, and spiritual enlightenment, as well as scientific and technological advancement. That’s my personal definition of a progressive. It’s the best label I’ve got for people who hold this basic forward-looking worldview; and I reject all of the baggage that’s become attached to the term “progressive” in recent years, thanks to postmodern, politically-correct liberals promoting a wide range of looney ideas & agendas, and the aspiring totalitarians of the “Regressive Left”.
2) I’m an environmentalist who believes that, at this point in history, saving the natural world has to be a top priority — right up there with the global resistance to Islam. I’m a keen supporter of solar energy, wind power, and hydrogen fuel cell technology, and think it’s absurd that we’re still burning fossil fuels in the 21st Century. I’m very concerned about the over-fishing of the oceans, the deaths of coral reefs, the poisoning of rivers, the destruction of rainforests; and the overpopulation of our planet, which drives all of this environmental mayhem. And I acknowledge that climate change is a fact, and a serious, man-made problem. In my opinion, failing to protect the natural world is just criminally stupid.
3) I’m a pantheist and a militant religious skeptic, who views religious superstition as the greatest impediment to human progress & enlightenment. This includes the Christian faith, in which I was indoctrinated as a child. My attacks on Islam have nothing to do with promoting a rival religion of equally dubious origins, that makes equally dubious cosmological claims. I believe in science & reason, and a simple, reality-based moral code that consists of striving to minimize suffering and maximize joy for as many humans & other sentient creatures as possible.
4) I’m an animal rights supporter, and a vegetarian (for both ethical & environmental reasons). I believe that greater empathy for animals will be a key element of the 21st Century Enlightenment, if it takes place.
Those are the progressive ideals & agendas that I’m most passionate about; but there are other issues on which I align with the political left, and butt heads with conservatives. At the same time, when it comes to Islam, I’m in total agreement with right-wing counter-jihadis. And when it comes to gun rights, I’m in total agreement with libertarians. And I despise political correctness & cultural relativism as much as any right-winger.
I think it’s best to examine each issue on its own merits, and follow the evidence & the logic wherever they take you, without being overly influenced by the opinions of others. And that’s how you end up being a pistol-packing counter-jihadi & pantheist tree-hugger.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Hope you don’t vote democrat then 🙂
gravenimage says
I’m basically a Liberal, as well–in the old sense of the word.
Gottahavehope says
Why oh why do we allow these people have any relevance!! Just paid to entertain, there opinion is a not worth a thing since they have no idea what the real world is. When they have no armed guards,and stop living in gated homes, and there children are in the public schools they should just keep their opinion to themselves!
abad says
It is because entertainers like Michael Moore think they are “better educated” than the vast majority of Americans.
They could not be more wrong.
Case in point:
Me.
I have a BA in history and a minor in political science science from a women’s college in the northeast.
I have a MA in Near Eastern Studies from UA.
I also work full time, pay taxes and vote.
Michael Moore, lol, dropped out of U of MI after one year.
See what I mean? Moore is delusional.
Thomas Kimball says
If the government wants to turn 1000,000 gun owners into criminals then the first step we should take is to get rid of all the scumbags! Hell, they want to call us criminals then make their dreams come true!
mummymovie says
Yes, the thought that many of the war-hardened muslim “refugees”and “asylum seekers” we have been drowning ourselves here in the US with, with reckless abandon for years are out there purchasing firearms sends shivers down my spine.
How will our daughters and granddaughters protect themselves from the coming permanent third world islamic nightmare that is being imported here?
Wherever there is islam there is misery, and wherever muslims go, they bring that misery along with them, spreading it like a virus.
And Michael Moore can bite it.
None of these childless celebrities care about the future here; as long as they can feel righteous about themselves inside and show it off to everybody else by virtue-signaling.
Papa Whiskey says
And Michael Moore can bite it.
That boy bites everything — which is why he’s got a physique like Jabba the Hutt.
Roderick MacUalraig says
LOL
abad says
If Moore was concerned about guns he’d be looking into the mass shootings which took place in Chicago a week after Parkland, FL, one which involved 6 people and another, 8 people.
But, you know, Black Lives Don’t Matter in Moore’s world, only “Stupid White Men”.
LeftisruiningCanada says
+1
It’s what doesn’t make the headlines that counts
Mario Almeda says
Well…well..well..
Looks like the Senator McCarthy was right….
Richard says
There is a saying I remember from the 88 Olympics:
Just because Ben Jonson is on drugs it doesn’t mean that Carl Lewis isn’t an a**hole.*
Actually both the NRA and ISIS are bad in different ways – and having BOTH of them in the country is a mega fail. Each makes the other one worse.
After all without the NRA the San Bernardino and Orlando terrorists wouldn’t have been able to kill so many people.
btw I accept that Carl Lewis is actually a pretty good guy – but the point here is about the reasoning.
dhans says
Sorry, emotion based thinking has often very bad outcomes when put into law. Since 94% of mass shootings involve someone who votes Democrat, I would be in favor of restricting gun ownership to Republican voters only, as emotion driven people are often irrational.
Dale Carpenter says
I have no way to verify the percentage but I suspect you are very close with the 94%. Our problem is with the decay of our Judeo/Christian values which has been punctuated by removing God from the classroom, our public places, our families, our courts, and unfortunately in many cases, from our churches. And, with respect to Islam, with committing cultural (and perhaps) national suicide by failing to understand the 1,400 year history of this barbaric, supremacist, totalitarian ideology. Thank God for people like Robert Spencer who know the history and the danger and are willing to stand in the gap…God bless him and the many others that care about this country and their fellow citizens!
StellaSaidSo says
Some of the worst betrayers of Judaeo-Christian values are the Christians themselves. The churches have accepted massive payments for their assistance with ‘resettlement’ of ‘refugees’, which has effectively silenced any criticism of mass immigration, and provided a financial incentive for supporting yet more immigration. Traitor-in-chief is Pope Francis, who should be leading crusaders, but who instead washes the feet of invaders. The example set by the Archbishop of Canterbury, and other church leaders, is no better.
Mario Almeda says
Agree 100%
abad says
Nikolas Cruz will get off with a slap of the wrist by the left not for any “mental illness” that might have influenced his decision to shoot up that high school but rather because is Latino.
Latino Lives Matter doncha know.
Rev G says
Just think, without the NRA, our soldiers would have been crap shots and we wouldn’t have had a chance in the Great War. Sorry, trying to counter your false allegations with real history.
CRUSADER says
There is also http://www.SAF.org
SECOND AMENDMENT FOUNDATION
Savvy Kafir says
Richard — The NRA is a less-than-perfect organization doing the very important job of safeguarding an essential human right.
ISIS is an organization devoted to squashing human rights and promoting the most toxic ideology on the planet.
The two are nothing alike. And the NRA is NOT responsible for the murders committed by lunatic jihadis. Banning guns is not the answer, when dealing with violent savages.
vlparker says
Not to mention that banning guns would work as well as the current ban on heroine, cocaine and methamphetamines or the ban 100 years ago on alcohol.
Rich says
Couldnt have said it better……
Its not gun owners that kill people…..
Its the lawless garbage thats bringing guns with serial numbers scraped off into our country that are also part of the problem..
Guns dont kill people….
Untill someone picks it up…..
Can you say gun safe(s)…?
VRWC member77 says
Richard,
Your comment here shows reasoning isn’t a strong suit of yours. I’m guessing you’d like to see better regulation of “assault weapons” too.
vlparker says
What a load of crap. The NRA is not responsible for any murders. Both of those incidents were committed by jihadis. The NRA had nothing to do with them. Are you trying to make the case that there would have been fewer people killed if legal magazines were limited to 3 or 4 rounds? Do you really believe such nonsense?
thesailor says
“Do you really believe such nonsense?”
Well, I certainly don’t. The issue in America is not control of guns, it is adulation of them.
Having said which, this current NRA witch hunt is clearly a typical Lefty solution to every social problem: ignore the cause; find the most emotive symptom likely to appeal to a thirteen-year-old and scream for an avalanche of laws to ‘deal’ with it, while simulataneously removing yet more natural freedoms from the people.
thesailor says
– simultaneously – . My teenage daughter, a confirmed grammar nazi, would have my guts for garters!
gravenimage says
The idea that Jihad terrorists would be nice law abiding fellows if only there was more gun control is rather silly.
After all, Europe has tight gun control laws, but this has not prevented Jihadists from getting ahold of guns. It does not occur to most people that if someone is bent on slaughtering innocent people that they might not stick at breaking the law…
Savvy Kafir says
Exactly. The full-auto AK-47s jihadis have sometimes used in Europe are certainly not legal for civilian ownership there — nor the hand grenades, or the SemTex or C-4 used by suicide bombers.
They don’t give a damn about our laws. And if you’re willing to ignore the law against mass murder, a gun ban is not likely to deter you.
Rich says
Amen
Rich says
Richard
The NRA isnt the enemy!!!!!
They the NRA are not the problem…..
Weird logic…..
Indiana Tom says
Coming from Pizza the Hut, that might actually be a compliment.
gravenimage says
🙂
St. Manuel II Palailogos says
I don’t like the NRA, and I think nothing of the Second Amendment. However, the NRA hasn’t killed anyone.
Indiana Tom says
Without 2A, 1A and others goes quickly down.
Rev G says
Yep, people who fear implements have their own problems to deal with. So deal with them, leave those of us who like our tools to ourselves.
Wellington says
Seconded.
Savvy Kafir says
Nicely put, Rev!
Roderick MacUalraig says
Agreed.
Wellington says
Seconded.
gravenimage says
Indiana Tom, St. Manuel II Palailogos has said he thinks little of the Frist Amemdment, either, and has generally sneered at the idea of freedom.
gravenimage says
First
Wellington says
You obviously don’t comprehend, St. Manuel, that freedom, and gun ownership by the public citizenry at large, are tied at the hip. Otherwise, the only ones owning guns are the military, the police and the bad guys. My guess is you are totally clueless here and completely ignorant of why the specifics of the First Amendment are, quite sapiently, followed by the specifics of the Second Amendment.
I predict you won’t get any of this. But then I have generally found you quite ignorant of what made America the greatest nation, even with all its faults, of all time.
Savvy Kafir says
Good points, Wellington!
Even many gun owners in the U.S. don’t seem to understand the real importance of guns (including those scary AR-15s with the high-capacity “magazine-clips”). The Second Amendment is not about hunting or skeet-shooting. It’s about being able to defend our most basic freedoms against government tyranny, if the government should ever run amok — a scenario that is not very hard to imagine these days.
Being able to defend your own life, and the lives of your loved ones & neighbors, against violent predators & criminals is also an essential human right protected by the Second Amendment.
I often wish the Founding Fathers had taken a little more time with the Second Amendment, to spell out all of this more clearly. But based upon the personal letters & other writing of several of them, this is obviously what they had in mind. And even if the Second Amendment didn’t exist, the principles would still be basic human rights that no one should be allowed to take away.
Roderick MacUalraig says
It probably wouldn’t become clear to this fellow until that moment that he was in a situation where carrying a firearm could very likely save his life, or someone he cares about. Even then his mind may not be changed. Unfortunate that so many refuse to see the truth of your simple statement.
CRUSADER says
Have you looked at crime statistics?
Response rate by police (if they show at all) is less than the time that crime occurs on average.
So, without Second Amendment, you are predictably behind the 8 ball a whole lot in this crude age.
Good luck out there!
Good luck in your domicile, protecting your loved ones as well…. You will need luck, it would seem.
underbed cat says
The FBI may have been admiring the man who sat in the chair in front of the invasive vine or had to define their mission with the identical words this man in a suit who sat too long in front of the invasive vine with flowers, that smelled so sweet and looked so pretty and had access to much wealth, and so some of the FBI was driven a little off course. If they could not examine the quranic sharia doctrine that isis declared, and understand the clever time frames, and thought they could drive it out without driving it out at home. So Micheal, do not take the word of a man sitting in front of an invasive vine too long who says it will not harm you listen to the man who studied the book about deceit in warfare that the soldiers of isis read, that the boko haram, and al Queda read and then you will see you might need the NRA or someone skilled such as security if you allow the invasive vine to spread without defense. The FBI had a notice of the source of terror…what happened in the tragedy of the school was not caused by the NRA., but may have been prevented had the doors been locked and the information acted upon of a potential school shooter, no relation to the vine but we do not know yet, but of an intent to kill, very sad and tragic.
Z says
When guns are illegal only criminals have them. It is our right to have the same fire power as our government. Banning guns won’t stop murder!
CRUSADER says
>> You remember when the NRA conquered all that territory and collected the jizya from non-NRA members. You remember when the NRA forced all those female non-NRA members into sex slavery. You remember the NRA’s series of grisly public beheadings. You remember when the NRA called upon its members to murder civilians in the U.S. and Europe by shooting them, or knifing them, or running over them with cars. <<
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Hmmmm…..?
I don't remember when any of the above occurred. Might it have happened in Charlottesville, or at Ferguson? Oh, BLM, please inform me, that I might find wisdom in Black Pantherhoodlumness.
Rich says
CRUSADER ,
Agree…..
This world is gone bonkers….
762x51FMJ says
The disease of rabies and Islam upon the human brain are similar.
Rabies causes the human brain to quickly wither and die from a deadly virus a vaccine is available.
The disease of Islam extinguishes all light and hope from within the human soul.
The brain withers and dies..
Islam is the learned behavior of a hopeless slave.
The greatest threat to Islam is a free human mind.
SB says
“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.” Romans 1:22
Bezelel says
How do you communicate with someone like that? Ink blot tests? word association?
Hilda Stevens says
Is that man a wacko?
Ed Lee says
Back in 2004, Michael Moore collaborated with Hamas to get his movie “Fahrenheit 9/11” shown in theaters in the Middle East. He is a traitor and quisling.
gravenimage says
“Fahrenheit 9/11” was also shown in Iran, despite the Mullahs having banned American films since 1979. This was, of course, due to its anti-American content.
Ren says
When is Michael Moore stop being stupid?
tgusa says
Leftists and isis are flip sides of the same coin. With leftists and isis any who venture even slightly outside of their guidelines is attacked mercilessly and this rule applies to those among their own. Both groups hate Christians and believe that Christians are the greatest threat to their guidelines but they are both wrong. I have non Christian friends and believe me they feel no obligation to uphold Christian values when dealing with the enemy.
Leftists and isis would be much better of surrendering to me than to those friends of mine. I just want both groups completely out of my life while those friends of mine would not mind seeing them boiled in oil. That’s another similarity between the leftists and isis, stupidity. If im there when my non Christian friends decide to apply their form of justice someone might ask me, wont you stop this? As a result of leftist/isis behavior that I have observed my answer would be, not right now I will have to think about that. The two groups will be directly responsible for my reaction.
CRUSADER says
They go together like bread and butter.
Or green peanut spread and red current jelly.
tgusa says
There were dozens of calls to the authorities regarding this monster. The callers would have been better served if they had reported him to the NRA.
It also appears that the kids would have been better served if NRA members had been the first responder’s.
Wellington says
I find rich liberals who are moral idiots (like Michael Moore) so annoying. What a pain in the tookus they are.
I mean I don’t mind at all someone being affluent, indeed I applaud it if gained legally. And I can somewhat deal with moral morons who are not rich. But someone who is morally obtuse AND rich (like Moore) is so damn annoying, and decidedly proving once again that life so often times simply is not fair.
Oh yeah, time for a beer and may Michael Moore permanently stick it where the sun never shines. After all, he has a very big place where to stick it where the sun never shines. Very. Yep, the man is a slob, physically, cognitively and emotionally. What a rube.
Westman says
Moore was an Eagle Scout and a devout Catholic, and has discarded all for leftist relativism and media attention. His first film had merit; the rest were instrumental in destroying patriotism among the youth and contributing to unbelief in their future as citizens in the land of maximum opportunity.
Moore, like Berkeley and Stanford, is an putrid island selling oppression/victimhood in a sea of freedom and opportunity. The very capitalism he hates made him rich.
One can hear the rusty gears grinding, “how can I make money off the NRA yet appear as an innocent cherub?”
James Pierce says
Morally and physically obtuse
James P Sullivan says
Michael More…. u stupid fat albatross look alike idiotic MF fffffffffffffckkkkkk you
Older Canadian says
I am beginning to become impatient with all the stupidity.
bodega says
I think it is time for Moore to put a sock in it. What an ignorant ass. Ignorant about all the real good the NRA does. Geez.
Aaron says
Micheal Moore is a fool
CRUSADER says
Of all the moments since being attacked in WW2, Americans need the Second Amendment now, with jihad on the rise….
vlparker says
Moore and the rest of his leftist ilk are so disgusting. This incident was a total failure of law enforcement at multiple levels. The biggest mass murderers in history are governments. That is why we have a 2nd amendment in the first place. ISIS is just one of many such governments throughout history. Over one hundred million disarmed people murdered by governments in the 20th century alone.
The first two battles of the American Revolution at Lexington Green and Concord bridge on April 19, 1775 were fought over gun control. How many Americans are even aware of that? Probably very few.
When you consider the endless drift of the Democrat party further and further to the left, to the point where we now have an utterly corrupt FBI and Justice Department, the FBI aiding and abetting a mass murder attempt in Garland, Dinesh D’Souza being forced to into “therapeutic counseling” by a human piece of trash posing as a federal judge, a film maker being jailed for inciting the Benghazi attack, it is clear that the left is just a small step from becoming a bunch of totalitarian mass murderers themselves. It is not hard to envision the left these days engaging in mass incarceration and even mass murder a la Joseph Stalin.
This attack on the NRA is not about saving the lives of school children. It is about power. It is about taking power out of the hands of people and putting it in the hands of the government. The government that failed these children over and over again.
Cunamarra says
It amazes me that so many in our culture are incapable of drawing reasonable parallels or comparisons. These aren’t children constantly engaging in gross and irrational hyperbole, it is people with a high degree of success, enough to gain some status of celebrity.
Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro are not Adolf Hitler by any stretch of the imagination. Muhammad was not Gandhi. A soldier who dies fighting for Individual Rights at Lexington Green is not the same as one who dies fighting for National Socialism in southern Russia. An organization that campaigns to grant a government less power in some particular area is not the same as an organization who fights and slaughters in order to establish a form of government that has power over every aspect of it’s citizenry’s lives.
In the UK most crimes committed using cutting weapons are done with kitchen knives. Lee Rigby was nearly beheaded with kitchen utensils by someone of the same ideology as the Caliphate. This doesn’t make the manufactures of kitchen utensils in league with the Caliphate. If someone steps in against the UK’s “government” to block them from banning kitchen knife sales it does not make them equivalent to Adebolajo.
CRUSADER says
By MM’s math and logic:
HOLLYWEIRD is by far a terrorizing set of organizations!
Look at the mayhem and horror which is produced on films, and also in songs, and other media forms.
The media of awful mind-destruction espoused by Hollywood is astounding.
Should take down all cinemas as well as all devices that promote and showcase such media!
Turn in your televisions! They cater to terrorism!
Frankz says
Yeah but ISIS are just Muslim savages so they can’t really be held responsible for their actions and their deficiencies are the result of manufactured consent on the part of Western hegemonies.
gravenimage says
Islam has always been savage–that is not the fault of the West.
Frankz says
This just proves how trapped you are in Western paradigm. Islam is a perfectly wonderful religion of peace spreading joy and happiness throughout the world. 🙂
gravenimage says
Ha ha
tim gallagher says
Surely a far left loony like Michael Moore would only be listened to by a miniscule number of people. I mean, even a lot of far less extreme lefties would just say that this guy’s got sh*t for brains. Although then again, his documentaries have found a fairly big audience. I’ve seen none of his films and wouldn’t waste my time doing so. It’s a weird thing to say, NRA is worse than ISIS. I presume he is saying, but they’re both bad and we should fight against both of them and not saying, oh well, let’s just leave ISIS alone. I’m not sure whether Islam is worse than Nazism or vice versa ( I suspect Islam is the worst) but I’d say go after both of them. So I find the point he’s making pretty pointless and imbecilic. I was just taking a look at Andrew Bolt’s blog, here in Australia, for the “Herald Sun” newspaper and I thought readers here might be interested in a commenter named Bill’s words about Muslim immigration. For Australians to be safe he said, “it will require the hard decision to exclude all members of an abominable conquest focused totalitarian ideology with the explicit aim of imposing its ideology to the exclusion of all others.”. I loved his description of Islam and thought others might enjoy it. Well said, Bill.
gravenimage says
Michael Moore has also called Trump voters “legal terrorists”:
https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/features/michael-moore-to-trump-voters-youre-legal-terrorists-w446067
tim gallagher says
gravenimage, it sounds like Moore just calls anyone he disagrees with a “terrorist”. He seems very loose with the way he uses language. He’d soon make “terrorist” become a meaningless word in the same way “racist” has become a meaningless word because of the way it is applied endlessly as a term of abuse to try to shut down debate of important issues and shame people into silence. As many commenters here have said the guy really is a fool who shouldn’t be listened to at all.
gravenimage says
True, Tim.
Granddaddy says
Why does anyone pay any attention to this guy? Because he makes movies? What does he know about anything? Why listen to him? He’s just offensive, that’s all. Someone should ask him what he’s been smoking.
vlparker says
And don’t forget this story.
https://www.local10.com/news/bob-norman/anti-muslim-group-wants-broward-sheriffs-deputy-fired-1
Billy Chickens says
Michael Moore’s self loathing makes him what he is. He looks in a mirror and hates himself and everyone else.
gravenimage says
Michael Moore: NRA is worse than ISIS
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Of course, even if one does not like the NRA, this is utterly ludicrous.
What a self-loathing creep Michael Moore is.
rbla says
Since Moore has been outed as a stooge colluding with the “evil Russkies” why should anyone continue to listen to him?
Keys says
?
When you see Moron,
turn Moore off.
Champ says
Moore is known for making outrageous statements like this that are clearly untrue. I believe he does this for *sensationalist* purposes and media attention–and to feed his warped ego and his false sense of importance. He just wants to be front & center on the latest hot topic …which would be fine if he had something truthful and noteworthy to add–but he doesn’t. He’s just an obnoxious loudmouth, and an unkempt circus-act who’s a huge detriment to real and honest debate.
MFritz says
Moore used to make movies and write books. Now he’s become the white counterpart to Maxine Waters – spewing racism and hatred to further his “career”.
The same goes for Rob Reiner. Once their career is over they try their “luck” at politics.
Lydia Church says
In a nutshell, with less NRA, you get more ISIS.
That is what they want. It’s as simple as that.
In a war, if you disarm one side, you automatically let the other side win because they are still armed.
This is just being used as another one of their puppet-on-a-string items to get their agenda passed!
It’s so obvious! They even orchestrate the shootings! I read about that on other news sites. All that so they can disarm you. They get the families up on stage, crying and weeping, just to manipulate your emotions and get you to make an illogical decision against guns. It’s all a show!
First of all, we were given the 2nd amendment in the Constitution for a reason. The founding fathers knew what they were doing! They were allowing the citizens to be armed so that they could defend against tyranny, that is why they wanted an armed militia! If you take that away, you remove self defense, it is like removing all the immune system agents in your body, disarming your immune system, and the next virus that comes along can wipe you out, whammo! (like AIDS works)
Without guns, you can’t defend against these types of attacks from violent bad guys with any weapons they may have. That’s why cops have guns. That’s why the military has guns. You can defeat the nazi’s with guns, or isis, or any evil threat. The bad guys will still get guns. That’s why the good guys need guns too!!! It’s called self defense. It’s also in the Bible, NT too!
They just want to strip the masses of guns so they can take over without any opposition or resistance! All tyrannies did it before they took over, the nazi’s included! History will repeat itself if you are not informed. The website ‘rather expose them’ has a mountain of information regarding gun ownership and the gun control agenda, I highly recommend looking there.
They want a totalitarian tyranny. They want your guns so you can’t resist. That’s all this is about.
Lydia Church says
It’s not the gun.
It’s whose holding it.
If you enable isis by taking self defense (guns) away, then you are as bad as isis (Michael Moore), or worse than, and the terrorist.
And it really gets old quick, how they label everything they don’t like or that’s not convenient for their agenda as “terrorist”!
Conservatives are “terrorists”….. gun rights advocates are “terrorists”…… those against terrorism are “terrorists”….. etc.! No matter how contradictory the label is. Sadly, the masses are getting so dumbed down that they swallow it all without a second thought. Like that list I saw about labeling 72 types of people who are good, conservative, law abiding citizens, and patriots…. as “terrorists”!
What falsehood!
Lydia Church says
It should actually read “who’s holding it”, as in who is and not whose gun it is.
Ooops! I do know better!
: D
Lydia Church says
By the way, and I don’t say this much as it is of material concern, but boy!!!!
That guy got uuuuugggggllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! Whooooo-eeeeeeeeee!
Definitely cringe-worthy!
Champ says
ahaha!! ..yeah and he looks like a bulldog with that under-bite–woof!
Jeremy Snell says
Let’s see… In every country where guns have been banned since the turn of the century with the exception of the UK and Australia, the government Banning weapons committed genocide atrocities of their own people in the Millions. Violent crime shot through the roof in the UK and Australia after guns were banned, as criminals no longer had to worry about being shot while doing a home invasion. Switzerland issues each household a rifle and instructs the rifle owner and its proper use and safety . Lowest crime rate in the world. F*** Michael Moore and every other liberal who’s too stupid to remember history or to see the current truth.
JDow says
Shortly after taking office in Germany Hitler banned private ownership of guns. Then when he invaded Poland among the very first things done on day one on the ground was posting flyers explaining that private ownership of guns was a very serious offense. Banning civilian guns is a despot’s tool.
Ironically it did not work for Hitler, resistance fighters always managed to acquire some. And in the US it would take several hundred years before all the guns would disappear even if we never make or import another gun.
Moore is another idiot who wants to ensure his safety as he helps build the tyranny that is to enslave the rest of us to his ideals. He thinks as slovenly as he looks.
{^_^}
Laurence Jarvik says
Figures. Remember this story? https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261158/michael-moore-we-are-all-muslim-daniel-greenfield
gravenimage says
Yes–I remember that ludicrous story.
Stefan cell Mare says
Was he in ISIS controlled territory and this is how he can notice the differences?
DogOnPorch says
Moore = Stupid
Dean says
The biggest, the fattest, the ugliest.
Kossan Nyx says
Still, weapons ARE bad – Only a race with limited mental capacities could create their own destruction devices.
Mankind thinks of itself as being superior.
But we are only one thing: Superior stupid!
And as long as people are weapon addicted and sell weapons for other fellow human beings destruction… It would be better for us all to be wiped out.
No matter if being leftist or Conservative. Because we ALL have zero respect in the end for other fellow humans.
And that is the misery of which our planet is suffering. And we all are to blame!
vlparker says
” It would be better for us all to be wiped out”
Okay, you go first and set an example for the rest of us.
“Because we ALL have zero respect in the end for other fellow humans.
Yeah, all of the US soldiers who gave their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan just wanted to die. Same with the first responders at the World Trade Center. They didn’t really give a damn about the people they were trying to save. It was just their way of leaving this world.
I see Nikolas Cruz isn’t the only one who needs psychiatric help.
StellaSaidSo says
+1
Mario Almeda says
Great!!,,, you just discovered the wheel…. Now, how you expect to implement you idealistic idea?… because, I think that you know that we are living on planet Earth right?…
Because if you have any solution… we are all ears…
gravenimage says
Kossan Nyx’s claim that defending against aggression is no better than unprovoked attacks is moral insanity.
His views won’t lead to everyone being wiped out–just all of the decent, civilized people.
AP says
Make America Great Again, new mention his name again.
Franklin Livingston, EFO says
I looked in the Dictionary the other day the word “UGLY” all I say was a picture of Michael Moore! What an idiot!
Peter says
Michael Moore is another hysterical Liberal Leftie, and Paul Joseph Watson (@PrisonPlanet) was bang on when he called Moore ‘a sack of shit’. NRA is worse than ISIS? This is from the same playbook when Liberals, after Trump won the election, were screaming that Trump was worse than Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin (who were responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people).
mortimer says
Michael Moore is simply INVENTING his own personal facts.
That is called PSYCHOSIS. He lives in his castle in Spain.
Lorensacho Byzantine says
The NRA may not have cried Allah Akbar after each shooting, but it has sown division, promoted racism, peddled fear and has been shameless about its true mission which is to sell guns. It has used tragedies to sell more product.To take moral guidance from the NRA is like taking lessons in women’s equality from Harvey Weinstein.
Bill says
How so?
Mario Almeda says
Can you explain please, how the NRA promote racism, and peddle fear?
because following you reasoning, Hollywood “stars’, Democratic Party, and the left had been promoting the equality of women for years, and a the same time protecting Harvey Weinstein and the one like him?… Just asking you know?…
StellaSaidSo says
@ Lorensacho
And your evidence for these ludicrous assertions is…?
gravenimage says
What?
Bill says
Wow He is ugly!
Champ says
I think you mean “Fugly”, just sayin’ …
Bill Greene says
Wow He is ugggly!
duh swami says
you can get rid of guns, but you can’t get rid of the desire to kill…Killers will still have planes trains trucks, car bombs knives, clubs and suicide vests…
Politicianophobia says
I decided to study the Canadian court system, so I attended court for three years. One man, (with 71 priors), while out on bail for beating his partner, used a “borrowed” hunting rifle to shoot her. There were many assaults with baseball bats, tire irons, crowbars, broken glass bottles, golf club, knives, ropes, fists, 2X4s and the number one cause of death in my area-drunk driving-cars and trucks. There is a need in Canada to take away all of the above, does that make any sense?
StellaSaidSo says
Point well-made, Politicianophobia.
Mario Almeda says
Of course make sense… but no..
The thing here is disarm the populace…. Look around the world and you can see the results of that.
By the way…. Communism and Nazism did the same thing to their own people before dominating them completely.
Politicianophobia says
Any bets his next movie will be about the wonders of Chrislam, and the leading man will be the Pope himself.
StellaSaidSo says
No joke, that’s exactly the gig that Frankie has been promised by his globalist handlers.
abad says
Why should anyone take Moore’s opinions seriously?
He is just another part of the anti-gun Hollyweird along with Samuel Jackson (who stated it’s a bad idea for teachers to be armed in schools to protect students from potential mass shooters like Nikolas Cruz).
Hollyweird figures are hardly experts on politics, medicine (RE: vaccines cause autism) or anything else besides acting.
CRUSADER says
Is this Statement true?
Is it something MM or even Irshad Manji might say?
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The more immigrants and Muslims are seen as threats,
the more America’s racists are compelled to back Trump.
???????
Edge of Darkness says
Australia and the UK population experienced the tragedy of gun killing of innocents (in school in UK) and agreed to major restrictions. USA is going to lose thousands more of murdered shot school children over time if restrictions are not accepted.
Politicianophobia says
Chicago has strict gun laws–please someone tell the gangs there are too many shooting in Chicago and they must turn in their illegal guns. Will someone also tell the left how many people die from drugs and ask why they do not worry about all the drugs on the streets. Control the drugs coming into the country and their may be a decline in deaths. Build the wall.
Cheer Bear Girl says
I hope he understands that Muslims do not like pigs or bacon.
Hogdude says
Excuse me; I need to take a Michael Moore.
but-seriously-folks says
Hogdude — for the win.
gravenimage says
Remember the Jihad terror attack in Flint, Michigan, last year?
“Flint, Michigan: Muslim screaming ‘Allahu akbar’ stabs police officer…”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/06/flint-michigan-muslim-screaming-allahu-akbar-stabs-police-officer-in-possible-act-of-terrorism
Here was Michael Moore’s disgusting reaction on Twitter:
“A terrorist in Flint? GM killed 70,000 Flint jobs. Capitalism evicted thousands from homes. Gov Snyder poisoned every Flint child.Terrorism?”
https://twitter.com/mmflint/status/877751255115997185?lang=en
but-seriously-folks says
Michael Moron has made himself a wealthy man by pretending to be a working-class hero. He is either delusional, or a world-class bullshitter, or both. His 15 minutes of fame expired long, long ago, and he needs to spew this nonsense to stay on the radar.
alex dennison says
What else do you expect from this progressive w*nker, desperately trying to stay relevant when his documentaries no longer attract large audiences?
Naildriver says
What ingratitude after C. Heston invited this jerk into his home.
it is astonishing the mental pretzels the Democrats and far left sling for their propaganda to the voters.
Sad though that it has been effective, particularly from this fat f33k.
To equate the NRA to the ISIS is as much to say:
‘yes we know in your eyes we are traitors and want to kill us; so take yer best shot.’ Which of course would be gold should a NRA card carrying member shoot up a Democrat whorehouse for their continuing efforts to paint all the right as the new fascists. PBS has certainly played that card in recent weeks.
It might have some logic were the right that Fascist and Islam that innocent, but they are not; but this collusion with Islam from the left is treason; and ironic as well.
This inclusion of Islam in their general platform is giving aid and comfort to this enemy, Islam, in total contradiction to their supposed support for human rights, freedoms, and even gays, women, and the bamboozled little man, they pretend to have compassion.
Moore will survive the NRA but is sure to be taken out by a fat burg of his own making.