Deradicalization programs, upon which the West has placed so much hope, have long been an obvious failure. In fact, they have never succeeded anywhere, and this one won’t succeed, either. How likely is it that a Muslim woman who clearly believes in Sharia, hence her hijab, will disabuse these women of the Sharia imperative to wage war against unbelievers?
Such programs are based on the premise that the true teachings of Islam are peaceful, and so all that needs to be done is show the jihadis how they’re misunderstanding the Qur’an and overlooking its teachings of peace, and all will be well. But since the Qur’an and Sunnah are full of commands to make war against and subjugate unbelievers, the idea that jihadis can be “deradicalized” by reference to them is just a myth told to Infidel authorities to lull them into complacency.
Well, let’s see. De-radicalization programs have been implemented elsewhere, notably in Indonesia and Saudi Arabia. Let’s look at how they fared. From the Jihad Watch archives:
Gitmo prisoner reveals: Saudi “deradicalization program” is really a jihad training program
11 ex-Gitmo prisoners flee the Saudi “rehabilitation program” and join up with terrorist groups
Jaw-dropper: 25 former Gitmo detainees “return to militancy” despite Saudi rehab program!
Flight 253 jihadist wasn’t cured by Saudi anti-jihad art therapy
Former Guantanamo detainee now top al-Qaeda ideologue — “He was transferred to Saudi Arabia in 2006 where he was placed in a national rehabilitation project.”
Indonesian government admits that its jihadist rehab program is a failure
And in the West:
France’s only jihadi “deradicalization” center is closing — it was voluntary, and it was empty
Netherlands: “Deradicalized” jihadist was spreading jihad messages to young Muslims
“GP reveals how she is trying to free returning jihadi brides from ISIS control as critics demand answers as to why they have been allowed to ‘slip back into Britain,'” by Abul Taher and Nick Craven, Mail on Sunday, February 25, 2018:
Jihadi brides who have returned from Syria after joining the Islamic State terror group are being ‘deradicalised’ at taxpayers’ expense.
More than a dozen women have so far gone through a controversial secret counselling programme run by Angela Misra. The GP has spoken for the first time of her work trying to free the women’s minds from the iron grip of IS’s poisonous ideology.
The news came as the EU’s border agency Frontex warned yesterday that 1,000 more jihadi brides – and widows – are heading for Europe from the collapsed caliphate in Syria and that they posed an ‘evolving’ threat….
Dr Misra and her husband Usman Raja, a former cage fighter, rehabilitate the women – whose identities have not been revealed – at a secret location. About 18 former IS men have also gone through the programme.
But critics question why the returnees were even allowed back. Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson said bluntly last year: ‘A dead terrorist can’t cause any harm to Britain.’
Other experts wonder why the jihadi brides have not been charged with terror offences and their names publicised – not least because hardliners going through the programme are still hellbent on establishing a caliphate elsewhere.
But Max Hill QC, the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, has warned of the danger of ‘losing a generation’ of men and women by automatically using the courts to punish them, and he urged reintegration….
Cheer Bear Girl says
A huge waste of taxpayer money. Deporting Muslim migrants or simply refusing them entry would be better.
J D S says
There is enough proof right here in Roberts article to prove deradicalization will not work. These returning isis people will only infest the ones they come in contact with……Far be it from me to suggest death or other punishment for isis women, women fighters, men fighters, kid fighters, or whatever……that should be left up to the courts…..but the courts haven fallen through the cracks.
Andy says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEt2waT7Ir0
Champ says
A failure in the making …
And I wonder what she’ll be teaching these women? Perhaps how to become a better muslima *doormat* to a future husband?
Indiana Tom says
Perhaps how to become a better jihadi?
Champ says
Indeed–that, too.
revereridesagain says
Probably recycling. 1,000 of them? Plenty of extras, so she can always talk the pussycats running that “returning-bride” program into shipping them over to Florida so that Hamze clown who is teaching mosque mussies to “defend” themselves from ISIS jihadis — because “they’ll attack you first!” — can learn from experienced experts. What a flea circus they are running in the UK.
Westman says
You don’t suppose that the UK taxpayer will be supporting the children of terrorists; children born under the ISIS “caliphate” and taught violent jihad?
Debi Brand says
” I wonder what she’ll be teaching these women? ”
Foremost: teach your children well, thus raise them up in the fear of “Allah,” thus, reared on “Allah’s Book and on the Sunnah of His Messenger.”
elee says
Yes indeed, why aren’t these women being charged with crimes? And are they still praying to give birth to a thousand martyrs for Allah?
Marina says
“losing a generation’ of men and women” ! They can get lost. Britain has no need for these nutjobs from hell
LeftisruiningCanada says
It’s not such a bad thing to ‘lose’ a generation made up of goons willing to kill non muslims, is it?
gravenimage says
UK: Hijabbed Muslima runs secret taxpayer-funded program to “rehabilitate” jihadi brides returning from ISIS
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Fox, henhouse.
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Eur says
Bad people. Muslim women are experts in making a face of sorrow … they are worse than poison.They are not capable of liberating themselves from patriarchal society, they accept it and they try to make western society become that fascist shit that is preached in their religion …. disgust of Muslim women.
Michael Copeland says
Memo to Nick Craven of Mail on Sunday:
“IS’s poisonous ideology” is ordinary basic Islam.
Abul Taher, a Bangladeshi, would already know this.
Michael Copeland says
How much is this “programme” costing the taxpayer?
What does it consist of?
What evidence is there of any result?
Is it even happening?
Of course, no-one is allowed to ask those questions.
SuicideChickenWing says
Worried about losing a generation of men? Oh, brother! Losing men like that is no big loss.
Frank Anderson says
SCW, what about all those who will be killed by those “lost”? The “lost” are certainly a good riddance; but those they kill in the process are another matter.
gravenimage says
Don’t let them back in to the UK.
DHazard says
What happened to the ISIS kids? The orphans of ISIS parents killed or imprisoned. They may already be beyond repair. Where is all that Muslim zakat going? Maybe the Saudis should cancel their project to spread Salafism to the world and focus on actually helping Muslims. They caused it, they should fix it.
If the oil rich monarchies and dictatorships of the Middle East got together and put to rest their dreams of a global Sunni caliphate there would be more than enough money to end the suffering of every single Muslim in the world. But Islam is inherently irredeemable. It makes Muslims permanent enemies to everyone else. It sees the non-Muslim world as evil. Muhammad’s cruelty, selfishness and arrogance form the heart of Islam and it cannot be dislodged without the end of Islam itself.
There is absolutely no reason at all to help Muslims in any way. If they are true believers then they know they are the masters of the World with Satan ruling everyone else. Allah hates all the taxpayers who are providing the service or benefit, so why give them anything? They can just pray, or maybe go to school and work. If they are better than everyone else it should be easy for them to succeed.
Of course the opposite is true and Muslims consistently underperform. Allah has abandoned them and, seemingly, rewarded the West. So, unable to face their own shortcomings, Muslims decide that destroying the West is the best of religions. And if no Westerner is at hand, then they are more than happy to destroy another Muslim, over some trivial difference in their theologies. In any case, Islam has and always will be a religion of division.
How can you reintegrate or just integrate, “I hate you just because you were born to the wrong parents in the wrong place.”? Don’t make a fool of yourself and help them. Please.
infidel says
Very well put.. THE CRUX OF THE MATTER
Sam says
Oh my God! West can not stop pampering Muslims. It seems west is in competition to out do each other in enabling evil Islam.
Give it to Muslims. They would be stupid if they did not take advantage of western willful ignorance.
I can not see a peaceful resolution to stopping Islamization of Europe and in fact America too.
gravenimage says
It’s not over yet, Sam.
mortimer says
Deradicalization programs do not work because there is no PEACEFUL, NON-JIHAD VERSION of Islam.
JIHAD ENTAILS VIOLENCE and MANDATES VIOLENCE as soon as the DIRTY KAFIRS say ‘NO’ to discriminatory SHARIA LAW.
When KAFIRS refuse to submit to DOMINATION and DHIMMITUDE, Muslims are COMMANDED to attack them VIOLENTLY.
Islam is PURE BIGOTRY mixed with COMPULSORY VIOLENCE.
The Koran, hadiths and Sira, as well as Sharia law cannot be re-written to exclude JIHAD. What is ‘perfect, complete and eternal’ cannot be re-written or reformed.
mortimer says
The only Deradicalization program that will be effective is called ‘ABSOLUTE DEPROGRAMMING’ whose goal is to COMPLETELY deprogram Muslims RIGHT OUT OF ISLAM.
Such deprogramming will include scholarly presentations such as the following which reveal the improbable sources of Islam to be the unhistorical fabrications of a malicious, malign Death Cult:
The Case against Mohammed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmagdEfTAp0
mortimer says
Strange Foreign Words in the Koran and Words that Make no Sense due to having NO VOWELS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7E1A3XAALE
mortimer says
The Fabrication of Islam & Mohammed by the Caliphs – Islam = An Intentional Hoax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpZlaSVsCDw&t=74s
mortimer says
REAL DERADICALIZATION IS ABSOLUTE DEPROGRAMMING
Islam: Sun Sets in a Muddy Spring on Earth (Crazy Quran Verses 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI1KdZNiVzs&t=406s
gravenimage says
If Muslims were going to leave Islam over something like this they would have done it long since.
It is good to mock Islam–but we should not expect the true believers to decamp as a result.
sidney penny says
“the idea that jihadis can be “deradicalized” by reference to them is just a myth told to Infidel authorities to lull them into complacency.”
and for the infidels to fork out money for these programs.
sidney penny says
“Jihadi brides who have returned from Syria after joining the Islamic State terror group are being ‘deradicalised’ at taxpayers’ expense.”
If the Muslims were really genuine that would do it at their own expense, not taxpayers expense.
After all, it is one of their own community doing the wrong thing and it would be nice to hear them say “we can fix the problem at our own expense.”
sidney penny says
“But Max Hill QC, the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, has warned of the danger of ‘losing a generation’ of men and women by automatically using the courts to punish them, and he urged reintegration….”
Amazing that a lawyer is saying this!What is the point of having laws( including terror laws) and courts if you do not use them?
Frank Anderson says
S.P., I suggest the reason is true with all “we know what is best for you idiots”: the law is written to fool people into believing they are protected when they are not. Like consumer protection laws that make violations so cheap that no plaintiff can afford to make a claim, or safe road laws that are never enforced. Most politicians are liars. That makes the rare few who tell and act the truth precious.
Anne Smith says
He seems to have strange ideas but if you want to hear more of his views suggest you attend the University of Hertfordshire on March 14th where he is giving a lecture – open to the public and no charge – about his first year in office as the UK’s Independent Reviewer of Terror Legislation
https://www.herts.ac.uk/about-us/events/2018/march/public-law-lecture-max-hill-qc,-independent-reviewer-of-terrorism-legislation
RonaldB says
This is another nail in the coffin of comedy. How much money can you make as a comedian when all you have to do is read the news articles.
The Jihadi ISIS war brides were attracted to ISIS Syria when they were originally living in “safe” Western countries. What attracted them? The sexy snuff videos showing prisoners in orange jump suits being beheaded, burned, stabbed or otherwise dispatched in an Islamic manner. The singsongy monotonous Islamic voice chanting something or other as people were being stabbed, beheaded, shot or thrown off walls. The ISIS propaganda stating that Muslims had the right and duty to rule the world. And these were the videos that attracted these blushing war brides. The virgin brides were attracted by the videos before being subjected to ISIS propaganda, not after. But we’re supposed to be concerned that the ISIS milieu has corrupted these fresh young things, who now have to be readmitted to the civilized country from whence they came, and saved from the evils of ISIS immersion, so as to return to the original pristine state from which they started.
It’s also a myth that Islam is inherently violent. As many as 85% of Muslims would not personally use a suicide vest or plant a bomb. So the vast majority of Muslims are actually peaceful. If the rehabilitation is successful, and there is no reason to think it won’t be, as many as 85% of the ISIS war brides can be counted on to not put on suicide vests and blow up innocent bystanders. So it’s important to intercept them now, and bring them back to original, mainstream Islam.
Arthur says
see how British government spent my income tax:
https://i.imgur.com/tNfoEcx.jpg
welfare 25%
MFritz says
You see the hijab, you know the story.
terry says
60 returning iSIS terrorists traitors have returned to Canada and Trudeau has tuned them loose on our streets.
We have no idea of who they are or where they are.
UNCLE VLADDI says
As opposed to Iraq, where they will simply hang the jihadi brides!
https://conservativetribune.com/court-hands-down-punishment-isis/