When is the BBC documentary “Judaism, Women and Me”? “Christianity, Women and Me”? “Hinduism, Women and Me”? Forget it. You know that in the shattered, staggering, dhimmi UK, only Islam gets this kind of fawning media treatment.
Meanwhile, “Mehreen admitted she was shocked by the imam’s guidance, and said she didn’t agree with any of his points,” but the imam was just repeating Muhammad’s words as recorded in the Hadith:
A hadith depicts Muhammad saying: “If a husband calls his wife to his bed [i.e. to have sexual relation] and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning” (Bukhari 4.54.460).
Another hadith attributes this to Muhammad: “By him in whose Hand lies my life, a woman can not carry out the right of her Lord, till she carries out the right of her husband. And if he asks her to surrender herself [to him for sexual intercourse] she should not refuse him even if she is on a camel’s saddle” (Ibn Majah 1854).
Also, Dr Amra Bone, a lecturer in Islamic Studies, is not telling the truth when she says: “How you understand that is did the prophet ever beat his wife? Never in his life. Say he is an example for you, the best example for you and he never hit a woman ever in his life.”
In reality, a hadith has Aisha, Muhammad’s child bride, saying that Muhammad “struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?” (Sahih Muslim 2127)
“How to be the PERFECT Muslim wife: Imam instructs women must make themselves available to their husbands whenever they demand intimacy and sex before marriage is banned, reveals documentary,” by Molly Rose Pike, Mailonline, February 6, 2018:
Two Muslim women have revealed they struggle with strict Islamic teachings banning sex before marriage in a frank discussion about their religion.
Activist and author Yassmin Abdel-Magied, who says she may never get married, revealed she finds it difficult to accept that she may never have sex.
She appears in new BBC documentary Islam, Women And Me, in which presenter Mehreen Baig examines what makes the ‘perfect’ Muslim woman and wife.
Yassmin, an outspoken feminist, tells Mehreen that she often feels ‘randy’ and thinks non-Muslims don’t realise that they also have sexual desires.
How silly. I doubt there is a non-Muslim in the entire world who thinks that. But apparently Yassmin Abdel-Magied is well-schooled in the Islamic art of claiming victimhood whenever, wherever, and however possible.
In another scene, Mehreen is horrified when a conservative Imam from an east London mosque claims the ‘perfect wife’ should obey her husband and have sex whenever he demands it.
A verse in Chapter 24 of the Quran advises both men and women to ‘turn your eyes away’ from temptation and to ‘preserve your chastity’….
To learn more about how the ‘perfect’ Muslim woman should behave, Mehreen visited a mosque in east London where an Imam was giving a speech about finding the perfect partner.
He told the congregation that a man should love and trust his wife and provide her with a good home – before reeling off a list of requirements for women.
The imam, who was not named, added: ‘She should show him love and affection, she should express her full confidence and trust in her husband.
‘She must make herself available to her husband whenever he says ”I’m ready, I need you.”
‘She must be available unless you’ve got good excuse.’
He continued: ‘She should not admit anyone whom her husband dislikes to come in or stay in her house.
‘She must not put economic pressure on her husband, she must obey her husband.
‘The wife must not travel without the consent of her husband.’
Mehreen admitted she was shocked by the imam’s guidance, and said she didn’t agree with any of his points.
‘It is important to me to marry within my faith but will Muslim men want a wife like me with an independent streak and ambition?’ she said.
Mehreen revealed that her own modesty is often questioned by her followers on social media when she posts pictures of herself in trousers or wearing lots of makeup.
She said: ‘I get really positive support on my social media and stuff but a few times people will point a finger at me and tell me I’m a bad Muslim.
‘What are they going to pick on? They’re going to pick on the way I dress. If that’s the worst thing you can pick about me as a person and me as a Muslim I’m quite happy with that.’
Mehreen visit a Sharia Law council in Birmingham headed up by Dr Amra Bone, a lecturer in Islamic Studies, to find out more about the role of a Muslim wife.
Dr Bone insisted the Islamic principles are there to show Muslims how to treat people with respect and love, and not as tools to oppress wives.
She explained: ‘You have to look at the overall principle of Islamic teachings. Islam is not a ritual as people have made it out to be. Islamic teachings are there to guide both men and women to behave towards each other with respect and kindess [sic] and love.
‘How you understand that is did the prophet ever beat his wife? Never in his life. Say he is an example for you, the best example for you and he never hit a woman ever in his life.’
Bev says
Please. Don’t these idiot women realize they are second class citizens under Islam? So you go from one owner (your father) to another owner (your husband) and these owners can do whatever they like with their pets.
Terry Gain says
Pets are more loved.
mortimer says
Women are little more than slaves in Islam. Misogyny and patriarchy are normative Islam, rather than an aberration. For a Muslim woman to call herself a ‘feminist’, her lying must be spread pretty and with a king-sized trowel!
Women are slaves in Islam, not only for time, but for eternity as well. What sort of sick, self-loathing psychology would lead a Western woman into Islam. I personally feel that it is a sign of deep emotional and psychological disturbance when a Western woman voluntarily joins Islam. Here are some vicious comments about women from Mohammed (the founder of Islam) that prove my point:
The hadiths of Mohammed that insult and degrade all women:
– I think that women were created for nothing but evil.
– Women have ten ‘awrat (vulvas). When she gets married, the husband covers one, and when she dies the grave covers the ten (of her shameful parts).
– A straw mat in the corner of the house is preferable to a barren woman.
– Women are toys, so choose (your ‘toys’).
– The woman is a toy, whoever takes her, let him care for her [ or do not lose her ].
– Had it not been for women, God would have truly, truly been worshipped.
– Men perished the day they obeyed the women.
– Obedience to a woman’s advice causes regret.
– Consult women and act contrary (to it).
– Sneezing, drowsing, yawning in prayer, also menstruation, vomiting and nose-bleeding are from Satan.
– When…your affairs are in the hands of your women, the interior of the earth (hell) will be the better for you than its surface.
– If a woman offered one of her breasts to be cooked and the other to be roasted, she still will fall short of fulfilling her obligations to her husband. And besides that if she disobeys her husband even for a twinkling of an eye, she would be thrown in the lowest part of Hell, except she repents and turns back.
– Mohammed asked some women, “Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half that of a man?” The women said, “Yes,” He said, “This is because of the deficiency of the woman’s mind.”
– I have not seen any one more deficient in intelligence and religion than you (women).
– I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers are women.
– Bad omen is in the woman, the house and the horse.
– After me I have not left any affliction more harmful to men than women.
– Don’t wear false hair for Allah sends His curse upon such ladies who lengthen their hair artificially.
– Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.
– Women, slaves and camels are same.
– Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman.
– If you relax the woman’s bridle a tiny bit, she will take you and bolt wildly. And if you lower her cheek-piece a hand span, she will pull you an arm’s length … Their deception is awesome and their wickedness is contagious; bad character and feeble mind are their predominant traits.
– “[A man’s wife] fears him, while he fears her not, a kind word from him satisfies her, where nothing of hers has importance in his eyes, it is she who must tolerate the presence of concubines, and it is she who worries when he is ill whereas even her death would leave him indifferent.
– If a man calls his wife to his bed and she refuses, and he spends the night angry with her, the angels curse her until morning.
Terry Gain says
Mortimer
I appreciate everything you say, but for those of us less well read as you it would be great if you buttressed your scholarship with reference to the particular Hadith which says what you say it says. That would make it more convincing and easier for people like me to disseminate to my friends – the great unwashed. Thank you.
mortimer says
No, Terry,
The purpose of this forum is NOT scholarship, but SHORT ARGUMENT. I COULD give pages of reference but I do NOT wish to put people to sleep. THIS WAS AN APPETIZER!
I will not spoon feed you. The literature is voluminous and CANNOT be reduced as YOU WISH! I have done the BEST job of making it SHORT
Terry, there is your admonishment … now you go look up the references … at the bottom are some links. THIS POST of mine IS NOT A DOCTORAL DISSERTATION. You will find the references ON THE INTERNET.
Terry, get started on YOUR HOMEWORK here:
http://www.exmuslim.org/insults-to-the-women-in-islam.html
http://submission.org/Corruption_of_Religion.html
http://aboutislam.net/counseling/ask-about-islam/critical-look-harsh-hadiths-women/
Terry, I am not an unpaid researcher for you.
dr ilona says
very well said……………ignorance and laziness and everything has to be served please on a silverplate thats todays sheeple attitude.
greetings from a med. doctor in Austria
mortimer says
Terry,
Here is what, I think, you want at WIKIISLAM…
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Women
Good luck and work hard at this very arduous task of informing those who RESIST being informed.
Mockingjay says
“Don’t wear false hair for Allah sends His curse upon such ladies who lengthen their hair artificially.”
– Boy – so they already had hair-salons back in 7th century Arabia where you could get weave-ins.
– Guess it must be true then that islam really was incredibly advanced for its age.
– Of course the salons all quickly disappeared as fake hair turned out to be so very displeasing to mr. allah.
Phil Copson says
“Doctor Bone – the Islamic sex-expert ????” – they’re kidding, right ?
Regardless of the Bible, I don’t think that “The Lion should lie down with the (Is)lamb anytime soon.”
elee says
Thanks Mortimer and also thanks Terry Gain. Be aware though Terry, that annotating each statement can turn a ten-minute post into an all-day job with looking up things and cite-checking. Mortimer I’d appreciate that too but thanks for the posting; maybe I’ll request some specific cites for individual items, in the interest of my own effective advocacy.
So western women, choose how you want to live. Ooops so many of you already have, you prefer to live as domestic cattle. Oh wait, the First Lady of Turkey has proclaimed that the harem was a great educational institution. Aaaah the altruism of it all.
Someday it may occur to you that there are worse places to live than in a world built by white men. Like, everywhere else.
mortimer says
The references are at the websites:
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Women
http://www.exmuslim.org/insults-to-the-women-in-islam.html
http://submission.org/Corruption_of_Religion.html
http://aboutislam.net/counseling/ask-about-islam/critical-look-harsh-hadiths-women/
DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK.
Karen says
“Oh wait, the First Lady of Turkey has proclaimed that the harem was a great educational institution. Aaaah the altruism of it all.”
Yes, I’m sure they were kind to their haram slaves.
Carolyne says
I was in Topaki Palace in a section of the harem complex when we entered a room with beautiful tiles painted with various kinds of fruit. We were told that the sultan for which the room was built had a poor appetite, so the fruit was to make him want to eat. There was a room with a shallow swimming pool where the sultans liked to watch their concubines bathe naked. And there was the room with a window opening onto the Bosphorus where one sultan tired of his harem and had them all thrown into the water and just replaced them with a new harem. A good educational tool, indeed.
Karen says
Oh, I get it. Spunky Muslim superficially engages conservative mosque environment, and enlightens us not at all about the truth of Islamic teachings. I’m bored.
RichardL says
the guy has a Thinkpad. And still he cannot think for himself and quotes a pederast and pirate…
Elizabeth Lawson says
These old guys just need to shut up and accept the fact that they know nothing about anything. When a particular skill set becomes obsolete in our modern world, we step up and offer retraining. Surely we can retrain these troglodytes in the ways of civilized living – and while we are at it – BBC personnel as well.
Carolyne says
I would rather be berated by angels all night than have to even smell this old goat, much less have sex with him. Anyway, maybe I could examine the angels and discover how those feathered wings were attached to their shoulder bones.
WorkingClassPost says
And they try to call this a religion:-
‘She must make herself available to her husband whenever he says ”I’m ready, I need you.”
Could it be any clearer that islam is nothing more than the sick, perverted wish-list of a sick, perverted man?
Michael Copeland says
“Mehreen admitted she was shocked by the imam’s guidance, and said she didn’t agree with any of his points”.
Your agreement, dear, is not sought, and is of no consequence.
“It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision…”
Koran 33:36,
part of Islamic law
P.S. Denying any verse in the Koran is punished by death. This can be carried out, vigilante-style, by anyone: there is no penalty “since it is killing someone who deserves to die” (Manual of Islamic Law, “Reliance of the Traveller” o8.4).
LeftisruiningCanada says
Exactly MC.
She still thinks she has a choice and the right to disagree.
How quaint.
MFritz says
So what, it has been in the “book”. For 1400 years. Just get rid of those who follow the book and its every word and the old man will be just another nobody who talks 7th – hateful – nonsense. Oh, and get rid of him too.
LeftisruiningCanada says
This woman will see what islam teaches when a few of the brothers come for her on a dark night with some acid.
Voytek Gagalka says
Islamic monument of “justice”: “Apostle of allah” striking his child-bride in her chest (causing severe pain) and then blatantly naming it “justice”! Whom those Mohammedans have had chosen as their “role model” to emulate?
Indiana Tom says
They beat their goats. What’s the difference?
Darryl Kerney says
the quran says wives are “tilth” to be seeded, whenever and however the husband pleases…..
http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=2&verse=223
Eric jones says
The silence of Western feminist is deafening.
Eric
Indiana Tom says
They all love Linda Sarsour. Western feminists are Muslim apologist pukes.
mummymovie says
THE DHIMMI WHITEWASH GOES ON: Not surprisingly, Vice News tonight does a segment on Child Marriage, but only interviews Latin Americans victims, etc… skips over Muslims ENTIRELY!
Outrageous!!
So… child marriage in the U ties States is a problem, but it’s everyone besides Muslims who are doing it.
The machine rolls on against us.
Chand says
‘She must make herself available to her husband whenever he says ”I’m ready, I need you.”
Yeah, most men, and not just Muslims would love that. But too bad. Most Muslim women don’t really give a hoot about what clerics proclaim.
FYI says
The BBC are very,very busy these days promoting islam-friendly drama and documentaries.
In one recent drama{called Next of Kin},I had to laugh out loud when the potential muslim terrorist actually grew a conscience and protested at the last minute to his fellow muslim on their bombing mission to London ..”What God would allow this?”.. {before he died heroically in theatrical fashion ..after being (accidently) shot by the police sniper team}
what god?
Well,ehm…the commandment-violating god allah sanctions it in his koran.
“Slay the unbelievers wherever ye find them” koran 2:191
And we have had 1,400 years of it.Even their great “prophet” muhammed admitted to being “made victorious through terror”{bukhari}And he knew what he was talking about since he was a mass-murder{abu dawud 4390}.
btw You know that recently released,well-publicized islam-friendly movie “Victoria and Abdul”?
Abdul apparently taught the koran to Queen Vic.
Do you think Abdul mentioned the bit about allah cursing the Jews and Christians koran 9:30 or allah’s strict command in koran 5:51
“Oh ye who believe!Take not the Jews and Christians and friends”
Somehow I think Abdul might have skipped those anti-Christian bits…
I have no problem with a muslim being a friend but it is allah who says muslims should not be friends with us infidels.
I wonder what other islam-friendly BBC{Britainistani Bs Corporation}dramas will follow:Dramas are very useful tools to hoodwink people.In the Next of KIn drama an the old woman was seeing reading the koran and later mouthed something about islam being friendly to women and children.
BBC Drama and movies are ideal opportunities for the devout muslims to use their dissembling tricks{ Taqqiya/Tawriya/Kitman/Muruna}.
After “Victoria and Abdul” what next?
Merkel und Faisal
May and Muhammed
Trump and Osama:the musical
LeftisruiningCanada says
MiddlEastEnders
Koranation Street
Crescentroads
Fawlty Minarets
WatchCat
Anashid of Praise
Indiana Tom says
get a sheep.