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UK: Labour plans to scrap most immigration laws, inundate country with Muslim migrants, Conservatives echo same policy

Feb 23, 2018 10:04 am By Robert Spencer

Despite abundant evidence that many “child” migrants are not children at all, Labour wants more in the UK: “Abbott said Labour would end ‘family break-up through the immigration system’. The left-wing party would achieve this by allowing ‘child’ migrants to bring over family members — particularly parents — effectively turning them into beachheads for a large-scale chain migration.”

In response, Theresa May’s hopeless “Conservatives” say they’ll do essentially the same thing: “A Conservative Party spokesman told the Press Association: ‘Labour’s policy would risk breaking up families by creating a dangerous incentive for children to make the perilous journey across the Mediterranean and onto the UK on their own….That’s why we are resettling 23,000 vulnerable refugees, including children with their families, from the camps around the Middle East and North Africa.”

It won’t be long now before Britain, inundated with Muslim migrants among whom are unknowable numbers of jihadis and Sharia supremacists, collapses into chaos. As a free nation it is, of course, finished.

“Free for All: Labour Party Unveils Bonfire of Immigration Laws,” by Virginia Hale, Breitbart, February 21, 2018:

Pledging to “end family break-up through the immigration system”, the Labour Party is announcing it will scrap a number of laws holding back mass migration.

In a speech revealing Labour’s vision for migration policy post-Brexit, Shadow Home Secretary Diane Abbott unveiled asylum and immigration policies that the Conservatives warned would act as a “dangerous incentive” to third world migrants tempted to make hazardous journeys to Europe.

Outlining the “fair and reasonable values” on which Labour says it intends to set immigration rules, Abbott said Labour would end “family break-up through the immigration system”.

The left-wing party would achieve this by allowing ‘child’ migrants to bring over family members — particularly parents — effectively turning them into beachheads for a large-scale chain migration.

Labour would also end the practice of at least attempting to deport ‘child’ migrants with no valid asylum claim once they turn 18.

Abbott asserted that it is “neither fair nor reasonable to break up families” in the speech, and also renewed the pledge made by Labour at the last general election to axe the government’s “false and unworkable net migration target” of less than 100,000 a year.

The London MP pointed to a large number of current migration policies which Labour would either scrap or change if they came to power, the Guardian reports….

Also contained in the leaked plans were proposals to introduce a visa scheme for “low-skilled, unskilled and seasonal” workers — categories of migrants which, as Migration Watch UK has pointed out, place pressure on housing, healthcare, education and the criminal justice system while paying virtually no tax.

A Conservative Party spokesman told the Press Association: “Labour’s policy would risk breaking up families by creating a dangerous incentive for children to make the perilous journey across the Mediterranean and onto the UK on their own.”…

“That’s why we are resettling 23,000 vulnerable refugees, including children with their families, from the camps around the Middle East and North Africa.”…

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  1. Marina says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 10:15 am

    Are they really children? Of course if you ask then you are a greasy islamophobe!

    • Save Europe says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 10:31 pm

      The bearded children, are promoted around the western world by the charity, Shave the Children! Who else…..

      • Andy says

        Feb 23, 2018 at 11:11 pm

  2. krishna says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 10:20 am

    there is no use of leaving brexit

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 4:45 pm

      It seems that the native populations of modern “democracies” no longer have a say in how their countries are run. The primacy of media has a lot to do with this, including the medium of education, the medium of government bureaucracies, the medium of cinema, the medium of newspapers and, to be sure, the medium of TV news. Media, they’ve got us all wrapped up. The art and science of Opinion Programming has reached full maturity now, leaving the gates wide open for the Moslems. As I recall, the Gates of Vienna were closed and locked.

      • BC says

        Feb 24, 2018 at 10:28 am

        Labour has not a chance of election with Corbyn in charge

    • Save Europe says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 10:34 pm

      You mean, Brexit was futile. Brexit means – Britain leaving the EU (British-Exit). You may well be correct, in terms of how this is panning out, though. Worrying.

  3. Westman says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 10:21 am

    Is this Tweedledum and Tweedledee or just Dumb and Dumber at work?

    The regal chutzpah of UK elites knows no bounds.

  4. Benedict says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 10:23 am

    – Pledging to “end family break-up through the immigration system”-

    A society that has thoroughly undermined traditional family structures at home now wants to complete the destruction of the country by uniting within its borders families espousing a resentful and subversive ideology within its midst. – The judgments of God are truly ironic.

    • Jayell says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 11:19 am

      So they’re bothered about the immigration rules breaking up all these nice muslim families – who don’t really have much in common with the UK and don’t really have much of a natural right to be here. But they’re not in the least bothered about all these ‘nice’ muslim families breaking up the ‘family’ of the UK, which built the place and has been here for millenia.

    • LeftisruiningCanada says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 1:10 pm

      Better to just stop the open arms, here’s a house and monthly check immigration policy.

      Less chance of breaking up the poor fake refugee families that way.

    • Joe Creho says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 8:50 pm

      Family breakup can be prevented by not coming in the first place.

      • LeftisruiningCanada says

        Feb 23, 2018 at 10:19 pm

        Especially by avoiding the break up caused by funding your child’s expensive illegal passage to the European country of their choice.

    • J D S says

      Feb 24, 2018 at 10:26 pm

      Chain migration on the way

  5. mortimer says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 10:26 am

    The jihad will increase, the rape will increase, the crime will increase, the welfare cost will increase.

    Benefits to UK? ZERO. Who cares!

    • Joe Creho says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 8:52 pm

      Their are benefits to business, which receives lower-paid labour and – key – new consumers. Everyone must eat etc. etc. …must spend money.

      • LeftisruiningCanada says

        Feb 23, 2018 at 10:20 pm

        The “big business is importing cheap labor” argument would be more convincing if all of the countries bringing the migrants in didn’t have some of the most generous welfare systems in the entire world.

  6. Snake Eater (Ret.) says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 10:53 am

    Cultural suicide on a massive scale has been happening right before our very eyes…must be some good halal Kool-Aid their quisling “leaders” like May are drinking! When are the people going to say enough is enough and rise up with sharpened pitchforks and lit torches…tick…tock…time is running out..your country has been sold out and is bleeding out!! Stop acting like cowards and at least put up a fight!

    • PRCS says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 2:32 pm

      “When are the people going to say enough is enough and rise up with sharpened pitchforks and lit torches”

      How about with their ballots?

      • LeftisruiningCanada says

        Feb 23, 2018 at 4:45 pm

        Ideally yes that’s preferable by a long way.

        But i’m not sure that real alternatives to traditional parties are being allowed to form and grow.

        Look how they jumped on Jayda Frensen and Co. It’s so easy to tar people as “insert nazi insult here”, and too easy to get arrested.

        And no one actually cares, or so it seems. How can a people be fully engaged in political defense when a lost job, or even a few days missed at work, means your life falls apart?

        No defending any of the apathy at all, but it is what it is.

        • Karen says

          Feb 23, 2018 at 5:55 pm

          Apathy is a big part of the problem. Also, if your existence is dependent on Labour Party goodie baskets (excepting the ill and elderly), then it will be difficult to vote to bite the hand that feeds you, even if you dislike said party’s immigration policies.

        • Snake Eater (Ret.) says

          Feb 23, 2018 at 8:04 pm

          Yes, PCRS I agree with you up to a point, but so far it is not working out too well…and all the while…tick…tock… the muzzies are being encouraged by the quisling politicians to keep pouring in year after year and are pretty much given the red carpet treatment with their very own keys to the country provided on a silver platter, treated like royalty, financially enriched…all on the backs of the hardworking non-muzzie UK citizens! Are you kidding me?!? How much more of this cultural suicide can the non-muzzie general population tolerate before they reach the point of saturation and rise up??? I don’t know! You tell me!

          There is only so much, or so little that can be done at the ballot box, but as LeftisruiningCanada says, “Ideally yes that’s preferable by a long way,” Of course it is, but from what I can see “ideally” and “preferable” are not working out to well lately. Karen is also correct too in what she has written. But for those non-muzzie UK citizens who did vote to toss the quisling politicians out but failed, what are they to do? What would you do? Seriously, put yourself in the shoes of those who voted against the Islamization of the UK and imagine how they must feel watching their country bleed out! What recourse do they have now? Allow themselves to be subdued? Relocate to another country? Or fight back by any means necessary?

          Unfortunately, there are too many non-muzzie UK citizen quislings, apologists, useful idiots, dhimmis, leftists, communists, socialists, progressives, social justice punks, ignorants, and garden variety mindless morons who voted to keep these muzzie-loving quisling politicians in office! And so the Islamization of the UK continues unabated and the New World Order globalists are loving every minute.

          To add insult to injury, the quisling politicians, feeling they have a mandate to do whatever they want because they won at the ballot box, weaponize the muzzies by turning a blind eye, aiding, abetting, and even facilitating the long laundry list of jihad being systematically waged against the non-muzzie general population, e.g. rape, assault and battery, grooming and rape gangs intimidating and brutalizing young non-muzzie girls, drug dealing, coercion, blackmail, money laundering, welfare fraud, terrorism, intimidation, knife attacks, acid attacks, vehicular attacks, wholesale cars burnings, the creation of no-go zones, et al.

          Would I like to see the Islamization of the UK reversed at the ballot box? Of course I would, but there comes a point when one finally realizes, despite all their best efforts, that the ballot box is not working, and will not work in this toxic political climate. With the the situation in the UK in a death spiral; hopefully, there will be those willing to do what needs to be done – outside the ballot box.

        • PRCS says

          Feb 23, 2018 at 10:32 pm

          The ballot box obviously does work.

          If the non-Muslim majority wants it to work for them, they need to make it do that.

    • Savvy Kafir says

      Feb 24, 2018 at 9:17 am

      I keep wondering the same thing, regarding the U.K., Germany, Sweden, France, etc.

      But I think the Islam-savvy minority in each of those countries (and other Western nations) need to make a more determined effort to educate the majority, so the ballot box can be used to turn back the tide of Muslim colonizers, before resorting to the pitchforks & torches.

      • Snake Eater says

        Feb 24, 2018 at 2:20 pm

        100% agreed…in principle.

        I ask, how would you define “a more determined effort to educate the majority?” I would argue that the muzzles have certainly, over the last decades, already given the majority in each of these countries you mentioned, quite an “education” on what they are really all about…if the majority cannot grasp what has been happening, in real-time, right before their very own eyes, then they are hopelessly lost…and no amount of “education” is going to reverse their ignorance.

        It is the Islam-savvy (as you say) minorities in each of those aforementioned countries who are the ones I’m referring to (and I should have clarified this earlier on) when I say rise up with the pitchforks and torches! I have pretty much written all the others, the majority, off as being part of the problem, and honestly I really don’t think lack of “education” is the whole problem with them. If in the process of rising up, a few in the majority suddenly wake-up and want to join, then great! The more the better!

        Let’s get real, given all the decades of brutal Islamic jihad that has been waged against all of these “majorities;” given the long history of elected quisling politicians enabling and supporting the jihad; given that the majority is not willing (for whatever reason) to wake-up and at least make an effort to stop the Islamization of their own respective countries; and given the bleak outlook for things improving (given the political climate and the fact that massive numbers of muzzies have been encouraged to entrench themselves within the very fabric of these societies), what recourse do the Islam-savvy minorities have? What options would you put on the table for them, given that all their efforts to stop this cultural suicide have failed to date?

        Did the ballot box work at the Gates of Vienna? Did the ballot box work for all of the other countries conquered by Islam over the last 1400 years? Hardly. Even rising up did not work either in most cases, so rising up is not a guarantee of survival. However, there will come a tipping point where the Islam-savvy minority will have to at least recognize that they must organize and put up a fight and not be led like sheep to the slaughter. Unless the Islam-savvy minorities in these countries agree to organize and rise up and fight back then history shows us that they will eventually be afforded the choice by their new masters to either convert to Islam, become a semi-slave dhimmi surviving under the brutal yoke of Islam, or be brutally murdered outright.

        Personally, I think “It is better to fight on your feet than die on your knees.” But… that is just me.

        • Savvy Kafir says

          Feb 24, 2018 at 4:35 pm

          I definitely agree that it’s better to fight on your feet, rather than die on your knees.

          And you may be right about it being impossible to educate the majority regarding the threat of Islam. The evidence has been overwhelming for quite a few years now. And I’m constantly amazed when this atrocity or that outrageous demand by Islamists in the West fails to wake up the masses.

        • Snake Eater says

          Feb 24, 2018 at 5:43 pm

          Savvy Kafir, yes it amazes me too and unfortunately the sleeping masses are just the environment that Islam thrives. That is why the muzzles and all their enablers keep pushing their “Islam is a religion of peace crap taqqiya…and their “we are here to assimilate into your culture” taqiyya crap and the ignorant sleeping masses just keep lapping it up as the truth…even as their own eyes tell them a different story. And if anyone dares to question the taqiyya then they are are immediately excoriated by muzzies, apologists, useful idiots, and all other forms of enablers as Islamofauxbic, racist, bigots!! Islam wants us ignorant and fragile and unable to stand up and fight back because it makes their jihad so much easier for them. Muzzies may be the masters of propaganda and disinformation, but it is up to those of us who are educated about the ugly truth about Islam to stand up to them and slap them down and put them in their place with the truth at every opportunity.

  7. Wellington says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 11:10 am

    The self-inflicted death of a once great nation is happening in our time.

    Beyond sad. Beyond tragic. And beyond stupid.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 5:12 pm

      All grimly true.

    • Jay Lynch says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 5:56 pm

      Exactly correct! England as we know it is lost . Churchill is flipping in his grave for sure, as is Margaret Thatcher. Omg ! Hasn’t England seen enough terror attacks and rapes and destruction by Muslim immigrants ? Now they are inviting in their families!! Complete utter one world order insanity.
      Germany is on par and France is not far behind!! They are letting the Muslims invade and are paying them to do it!! Europe and England are lost!!

      • Anne Smith says

        Feb 24, 2018 at 6:12 am

        So true Jay Lynch.

        There is no hope for us while we have this incredibly stupid woman as Prime
        Minister

        • Simon says

          Feb 24, 2018 at 6:43 am

          The way I believe it to be is that governments are told what to do by the financial elites who control international trade and economies behind the scenes. International banks to which almost all countries are in debt control not just economic but also immigration policies as well. They are the ones who want a border-less world and a centralised one world govt. controlling body. The election of Trump wasn’t meant to happen.

        • StellaSaidSo says

          Feb 24, 2018 at 7:12 am

          Correct, Simon. The globalists – comprised largely of financial, corporate and political elites committed to One World government – are directing the traffic, including manipulation of elections. Trump’s unexpected win was a serious setback for them, and they have not relented in their efforts to remove him from office.

    • Save Europe says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 10:43 pm

      Sadly it’s not just former great (and potent) nations like GB, France and Germany, but also the likes of Sweden, Netherlands, Belgium and Canada at this continuing rate. Let’s consider what is happening in all these once great countries.

    • Savvy Kafir says

      Feb 24, 2018 at 9:27 am

      And it’s not just the U.K. that’s committing Suicide By Islam, as we watch in horror. Many European countries are doing the same thing. And Canada, Australia, and even the U.S. are following the same path to cultural oblivion, albeit at a slower pace.

      There seems to be a global shortage of common sense & the survival instinct among non-Muslims.

  8. mccode says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 11:38 am

    It is astounding that any politician would embrace an open borders policy, whether in Europe or the United States. Our common sense and innate survival instincts have us locking the doors to our homes, or at the very least closing the door, so it appears secure.

    If one is an advocate for open borders, it is self-evident that person is a fool.

  9. robert saunders says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 12:04 pm

    Sounds like California.

  10. DFD says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 12:10 pm

    “…inundate country with Muslim migrants, Conservatives echo same policy…”

    Must have overslept, I thought it was already inundated, obviously it was just a dream. Oh dear….

    BTW, isn’t it strange that simultaneously the same is demanded and suggested by political parties and experts? In the media that is. Namely “family reunification”. Oh yeah, in Germany, Scandinavia, the nether countries, France, Italy… Simultaneously, in all of these? Obviously a coincidence, sheer coincidence – what else could it be? There was a guy who wrote a book, and in that book the idiot proclaimed that Britain will be Europe’s first country to be ruled by a Muslim! That was many moons ago. I wonder….

    However, here’s some good news about or from Germany: The just about four year old AfD has, in op polls, overtaken the SPD and became the second strongest party in Germany. Err, for Muslim readers: That’s Germoney!

    The SPD is on a **historical** low, and the CDU? Below 40% and heading on to 30%! So far, the lowest in its **entire existence**. It’s only a rumour, but it’s said that CDU members have been heard singing: “Merkel, Merkel UNTER alles…”

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 6:08 pm

      Good news, DFD.

    • Guy Forester says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 6:37 pm

      Yes, but if it is the deep rotted, I mean deep rooted establishment counting the votes when the votes count the most, do not expect to see any party other than the current Siamese twins make any significant gains.

  11. John W says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 12:18 pm

    Why can’t they be resettled in other ME or African countries? Its not like those countries are “s***holes”. Are they?

  12. malcolm says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 12:52 pm

    England is dead. you have maybe 4-6 years to visit to see what once was.
    There will be no commonwealth to come save you this time.

    • Save Europe says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 10:52 pm

      Untrue – and whilst I’m a proud Limey, it’s important to note that the sizeable land mass which is Great Britain is not just England, but also Wales and Scotland. In regards to your comments – and being here to see it first hand – a 4-6 years scenario – respectfully – is utterly ridiculous. Please, don’t be caught up in hyperbole, otherwise Leftard idiots will deride you as a right wing lunatic. In truth – every large town and city in GB has a potent Muslim demographic – the very same in France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Sweden etc. My opinion? You’re correct to show utter concern. I agree, but on current birth rates and demographics, one is looking at 20-30 years. One needs to be as ‘measured’ as possible. Get estimates as correct as possible, when possible!

  13. Frederick Middleton says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 12:57 pm

    If family unity is so necessary, then let them stay together where they already are.

    • Guy Forester says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 6:41 pm

      Stop that! You can’t use common sense to solve these problems! You must create worse ones!.

      Isn’t it more logical to spend 10 times more money to bring them here rather than help them there?

      By the logic of the left, we should not send murderers, rapists, and bank robbers to prison as it may break up a family.

    • Save Europe says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 10:54 pm

      Totally agree!!

  14. Gjallarhornet says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 1:10 pm

    And nobody seems to see the contradiction in that the ‘family reunion’ politics wrecks *British* families and communities on a massive scale.

    The contradictions are legio:
    Social politics – which drains the public welfare treasury and creates poverty.
    Migrant children politics – for adult who are not children
    Family politics – to detriment of families who are already established.
    Church politics . which destroys the church.

    The times have gone absurd.

  15. LeftisruiningCanada says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 1:12 pm

    I’ve a terrible suspicion that Labor are going to win the next UK general election.

    • RichardL says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 1:16 pm

      I have a terrible suspicion that it would make no difference which party is going to win. Britain is gone already.

      • Gjallarhornet says

        Feb 23, 2018 at 1:36 pm

        I have a terrible suspicion that everything is going to be terrible.

        • LeftisruiningCanada says

          Feb 23, 2018 at 3:02 pm

          At least with a Conservative win there’s a chance, however slim, that things can turn in a better direction. New leadership wouldn’t hurt either.

          But a Labor win? The horror…the horror…..

          It’s the difference between struggling and fighting to grab at anything there is to prevent yourself sliding down a muddy hill towards the cliff edge, and turning around to face it, while yelping for joy at how fun the ride to the bottom is going to be.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 6:12 pm

      I worry about this as well, LeftisruiningCanada–as bad as Theresa May is, Commumist terrrorist-sympathizer Jeremy Corbyn would be much, much worse.

    • Save Europe says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 10:56 pm

      You know what? So do I. I loathe Labour and their leader Corbyn, and will quite frankly leave the UK if that Marxist takes power.

      • LeftisruiningCanada says

        Feb 24, 2018 at 12:56 am

        Come to Canada if you must leave. Brits still have a fairly easy time gaining residency from what i hear.

        If it all goes to hell here too eventually, at least there’s a lot more space to go lose yourself in!

  16. Jack Holan says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 2:27 pm

    I think it’s a great thing that they’ve finally admitted to the UK that They are the enemy! Their goal is the purposeful forceful change (Jihad) of the Demographic make up of England. The Conquest Of Medina by Mohammed through Hijrah.
    Will Syria offer all Brits receiprocal immigration policies into Dyria at the expense of an Arab Majority? Where is there a Winston Churchill, or Iron Lady there who step up and crush this this insanity before it’s too late?

  17. PRCS says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 2:35 pm

    Don’t know, so I’ll ask:

    Does she in particular–and the Labour Party in general–prefer Muslim “refugees” to those of other faiths?

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 6:17 pm

      Certainly, there are some non-Muslims immigrating to Britain–Poles, and those from sub-Saharan Africa and the Carribean–but most of those flooding into the UK, and almost all of those claiming to be “refugees”, are ravening Mohammedans.

      • PRCS says

        Feb 23, 2018 at 7:15 pm

        Yes, but do either she or the party favor/prefer Muslims over the followers of other faiths? And, if so, do “the folks” take appropriate umbrage?

    • Barguest says

      Feb 24, 2018 at 4:07 am

      PRCS,

      I’ve asked myself, many times over, why the myopia when it comes to the problems associated with importing vast amounts of muslims. And I’ve come to the conclusion it’s multifactorial:

      For some, particularly the young, it’s simple virtue signalling. They’ve ‘educated’ (indoctrinated more like) to believe the ‘religion of peace’ lie, plus they see muslims as ‘brown people’. Thus they see criticism or islam, or pushback against its incursion, as ‘racist’. And we can’t have that can we? So they praise islam and welcome its adherents.

      For others, particularly the Labour Party that long ago abandoned the native working class that spawned it, it’s an opportunity to import a ‘vote bank’ on which it can rely for electoral support. Plus, they get to virtue signal to the young dupes mentioned above.

      For yet others, and I’m looking at the (so called) Conservative Party, there are all those lovely Saudi et al petrodollars and arms contracts to be considered. Can’t possibly jeopardise the flow of those by making it appear that the UK’s not islam-friendly.

      Thus, we who love freedom and peace are caught in a perfect storm of interests antithetical to us. My only hope is that a new political force will arise, one dedicated to reason and freedom, and that enough of the electorate will recognise that force’s necessity to the continuance of our nation. But I fear that the establishment will do its infernal best to crush such a movement – we already elements of this in ‘hate-speech’ laws and prosecutions, and the presence of antifa thugs (latter-day brownshirts without question) on our streets.

      Glum as that all sounds, I have still have some hope in the good people of this land; that they will rise and resist. But I have a feeling it’ll get ugly before it’s over .

      • PRCS says

        Feb 24, 2018 at 5:32 am

        Sounds very much like my own country–the U.S.

        Though, glum, thanks for your thoughtful post.

  18. Cheer Bear Girl says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 2:40 pm

    We in the United States dodged a bullet with president Donald Trump. Hillary would have hastened the demise of the United States of America.

    • Wellington says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 3:10 pm

      Seconded. But don’t count on any Leftist even remotely comprehending this.

      As for Trump, right now he is, whatever his faults, the single most powerful force for the preservation of freedom in all the world. The speech he gave in Poland about the greatness of the West (which the Left, in typical stupid mode, assessed as a racist speech because any praise of the West to clueless Leftists {excuse the redundancy} equals racism) serves as ipso facto evidence of what you asserted, i.e., that we dodged a metaphorical bullet with Donald Trump being elected POTUS rather than Hillary Clinton, who is not only possessed of a multiplicity of bad ideas but was also the single most corrupt major party Presidential candidate in all of American history (even more than her hubby was back in 1992 and 1996 since the Clintons have had time to “build upon” their corrupt inclinations since the Nineties).

      • LeftisruiningCanada says

        Feb 23, 2018 at 4:48 pm

        (It is only a metaphorical bullet, since HRC would have outlawed actual bullets asap)

      • Karen says

        Feb 23, 2018 at 6:05 pm

        The speech in Poland was transcendent. It’s one of the most remarkable speeches I’ve ever heard; I had no idea how gifted his is with the spoken word, since his campaign speeches are generally quite different and more ‘folksy’. I was amazed that there was very little positive comment on it by the media, but then, as you point out, it was a love letter to Western civilization. It was really quite brilliant and inspiring.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 6:20 pm

      True, Cheer Bear Girl, Wellington, LeftisruiningCanada, and Karen.

    • PRCS says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 7:28 pm

      There are many reasons I did not vote for Hillary.

      All of her other failings and deceits aside, the following HRC quote sealed the deal for me:

      “Let’s be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.”

      Note: she was correct, in that Islam (the ideology) is not our adversary. It’s followers (Muslims) are.

      • Save Europe says

        Feb 23, 2018 at 11:02 pm

        Ummmmmm….,.chicken and the egg scenario. Which came first? Islam or Muslims? Answer – Islam. Without Islam we would have no adversaries.

        • PRCS says

          Feb 24, 2018 at 5:37 am

          Well, actually–we have had numerous adversaries over the centuries.

          Re: referencing the chicken and egg scenario–proto-Muslims wrote Qur’an.

  19. 762x51FMJ says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 3:47 pm

    The difference between being a “subject” of England
    and a free human being.
    Is that as a “subject” you only have the right to be silenced
    and everything will be held against you.

    • LeftisruiningCanada says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 5:07 pm

      There is something to that for sure.

      Such as where one’s rights originate.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 6:22 pm

      Actually, England has been one of the freest nations in the world, and the original model for America. That is what makes what is happening in Britain now all the more tragic.

      • Wellington says

        Feb 23, 2018 at 7:19 pm

        Indeed, gravenimage.

      • LeftisruiningCanada says

        Feb 23, 2018 at 11:01 pm

        Not disagreeing with what the UK has been by any means, but i would appreciate thoughts on the following.

        Is it, or is it not, the case that as a subject of the British Monarch, the rights of the individual have been seen to originate from that Monarch. They are granted, and flow down hill from the one who rules.

        The US on the other hand does not have subjects. It has free born individuals who are born with certain inalienable rights by nature of their human nature. The State is formed to guard and protect these rights on the behalf of the many, which is where those rights actually reside.

        In this way, it might be said that the US turned this aspect of things on it’s head so far as it’s connection to the UK is concerned.

        Is there anything to this idea that i have picked up somewhere, or is it bunk?

        • Wellington says

          Feb 24, 2018 at 12:45 pm

          You pose a most interesting contrast, LIRC. I will do my best to provide a few insights on this matter to the best of my ability.

          First of all, even going back to Anglo-Saxon times, and certainly from the reign of King John onwards, the monarch was considered to be bound by the law, and within the law, in a way that other monarchs were not (examples being French Kings and Russian Czars who were, in effect, above the law). Certainly the English Civil War followed by the Glorious Revolution of 1688-89 demonstrated that Parliaments make monarchs and not God, thus by the end of the seventeenth century the divine right of kings was dead in Britain though still very much alive on the European continent. And Parliament was composed of men who had the final say so that all rights flowing from the monarch in Britain took “a big hit” by the time the eighteenth century dawned.

          You aptly point out that America did something different. It had no subjects at all once it overthrew British rule and, as Dennis Prager has often said, America is the only polity even founded on the principal of limited government. Ronald Reagan put it another way in his First Inaugural Address in 1981, to wit, that the states founded the federal government and not the other way around. Of course, many in the DC Swamp have forgotten this if indeed they ever knew it in the first place and Donald Trump is doing his best, I believe, to restore the original balance (one of many reasons why he is so hated) which does indeed betoken that Americans are not subjects at all and that the government exists to serve the people.

          Well, just a few thoughts on this matter. Hope you are doing well. Take care.

        • Tom says

          Feb 24, 2018 at 2:24 pm

          The Queen has no real power to grant anything, let alone “rights” to her subjects. The poistion of monarch is merely a figurehead who gives her signature as royal ascent to bills passed in Parliament.

          The war between Cromwell and the Loyalists determined that the “commoners” would be able to regulate themselves by elected members of the parliament or “commons” those bills eminating from the commons had to then go to the house of lords, the gentry, to be given further critical assessment before going to the monarch to be signed. The house of lords can only delay legislation, they can’t deny it.

          At least that is my understanding of how the British parliamentary system works.

          It is elected politicians that determine if rights given over centuries and in the magna carta will be limited.

          That is why Corbyn and the Left Wing are so dangerous to the UK.

  20. Richard Paulsen says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 4:34 pm

    I am afraid that sooner or later this Century NATO will be in the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood or some other Islamic organization.

    • Save Europe says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 11:05 pm

      Well Islamic Turkey is part of NATO….which it shouldn’t be. My appraisal? It won’t happen. Civil wars will envelope regions within Western Europe, way before Muslims get their hands on nukes. They’re still a minority, thankfully, however belligerent they are.

  21. Voytek Gagalka says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 4:39 pm

    I see that Diane Abbott could easily play major role in “Planet of the Apes” without any need for facial alteration or makeup. Face of Labour Party? Ugh!…

    • Cicero says

      Feb 24, 2018 at 11:19 am

      Alas Voytek sir. This is a very racist remark about a prominent black woman politician in the UK.
      Attack her policies and not her person . It s her deluded views and the efficacy ( or the lack of it) of her representation of the constituency which should be critiqued

      Please let us have a high level of anti- Jihad discussion on this website and not debase its existence with such utter name calling and rabble rousing

  22. gravenimage says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 4:59 pm

    UK: Labour plans to scrap most immigration laws, inundate country with Muslim migrants, Conservatives echo same policy
    …………………………

    *Terrifying*. This is not what Brexit was all about.

    • LeftisruiningCanada says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 5:08 pm

      It’s ‘them’ telling ‘us’ that they control both the horizontal and the vertical.

      • Karen says

        Feb 23, 2018 at 6:06 pm

        Yes 🙁

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 23, 2018 at 6:36 pm

        Grimly true.

  23. brane pilot says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 5:22 pm

    It would, of course, be racism to require accurate determination if ‘family relatives’ are, in scientific fact, genetically related. It is also racism to suggest that migrants with facial wrinkles and beard stubble by early afternoon are not ‘children in need of protection’.

    RIP Europe. This is what all those ‘progressive education reforms’ in the 1970s got you.
    Brainwashing works.

  24. Guy Forester says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 6:48 pm

    It appears that if the people of England, as well as the rest of Western Europe do not act quickly, decisively, and forcefully rather quickly, they are doomed.

    If needed, DJT could try to accept Western Europeans as refugees, but the leftists here, especially in the courts, would deem that racist and unconstitutional.

  25. Stacy Girl says

    Feb 23, 2018 at 7:07 pm

    Get out now. Like Germans fleeing the Nazis, you won’t regret it.

    • Wellington says

      Feb 23, 2018 at 7:38 pm

      Where to? I ask this because yearly it appears most of the West has gone mad (including the fool currently occupying the throne of St. Peter). Only Eastern Europe (which, of course, does not include Russia, said country being an enemy of the West almost as much as the Islamic world is) has retained its sanity, collectively speaking.

      Sadly, even America has lost much of its collective mind. The Democratic Party, speaking in the aggregate, did long ago, and the Republican Party is full of weasels or worse. Almost Trump alone stands up for freedom in DC anymore———–and for all of the West. Plus several courageous Eastern European nations, as already noted.

  26. Lydia Church says

    Feb 24, 2018 at 12:30 am

    Plague of locusts invited by UK.
    If a little is bad, more is worse, an army is the worst.
    Aligns with their evil plot like a glove!

  27. MFritz says

    Feb 24, 2018 at 3:01 am

    Maxine Waters’ UK cousin I presume?

  28. Thomas Poovathinkal SSP says

    Feb 24, 2018 at 7:43 am

    “It seems that the native populations of modern “democracies” no longer have a say in how their countries are run. ”

    Alarmed Pig Farmer, SO very TRUE.

  29. Politicianophobia says

    Feb 24, 2018 at 12:06 pm

    Politicians know more–Justine Trudeau appointed a 20 man committee to study if Canada should bring in migrants. The result was it would be better and cheaper (12 to1) to leave them in their own country. Trudeau did not like their findings and started his own plan. Traitor.

  30. martine parry says

    Feb 24, 2018 at 6:03 pm

    Democracy – if it ever truly existed – is dead. The key players in the global ‘seeming’ madness are defence and pharma industries then Monsanto and management of of our food and water.
    Let’s not also forget the financial industry. Selling defence to countries that make war on each other (mostly M.E. countries: muslim against muslim at the moment) is good business but projections probably show that will not bring in enough revenue so selling arms to even more countries to control their own people will reap more rewards. Pharma: bring in people from the third world with diseases unknown in the West (some unknown for decades) and way hay you get more need for vaccinations paid for at top dollar. Bring in people from alien cutures and you have civil war – more need for spending on defence! This is the magic circle of making money. Finance: our system is broken in the west. we borrow from the next generation. If the next generation is poor or actively seeks jizya through us paying them through the welfare system then we are bust – hence civil war! If we can’t feed ourselves (patents on food / DNA / use-once seeds by Monsanto) or we die through ill health (GM poisoning) then Monsanto and co make money for the short to medium term but there are fewer humans to provide taxes or to look after through welfare. Monsanto goes bust, humans. die, taxes dry up and there is civil war or world war. If China controls the main artery of fresh water though Nepal/ Tibet and finds a way to stop fresh water being accessible by the rest of the world the there is war. There are many levels to what is happening and we should remain alert to them all.

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