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Florida: Jurors in trial of Orlando jihad mass murderer’s wife asked their views of Muslims and Islam

Mar 5, 2018 4:04 pm By Robert Spencer

It is most likely that if someone said that he or she didn’t believe that Islam was a religion of peace, or knew that Omar Mateen said he killed 49 people at the Pulse Nightclub because of Islam and his adherence to the Islamic State, that person would not be chosen for the jury.

“Noor Salman trial: Jurors asked what they know about news coverage of case,” by Gal Tziperman Lotan and Krista Torralva, Orlando Sentinel, March 5, 2018:

More than a dozen potential jurors were questioned in Noor Salman’s trial Monday, with four of them staying in the jury pool and seven excused.

U.S. District Judge Paul Byron held off making decisions on two more jurors, who said they have to check with their work or their family to see if they will be able to sit through the three-week trial.

Salman, 31, is charged with aiding and abetting her husband, Pulse nightclub shooter Omar Mateen, and of obstruction of justice….

Some jurors were asked what they think about Muslims and Islam, and whether their views on the religion will impact their ability to judge Salman fairly.

The woman who was kept in the pool attended an interfaith class at her church last year because she said she “didn’t understand what was going on in the country.”

She said she found Islam to be non-violent and learned Muslims and Christians “have a lot in common.”…

“The president is part of the government and acts unfairly toward Muslims,” a male college student responded.

He said he thinks the government takes a more aggressive stance toward Muslims when making laws and referenced President Donald Trump’s travel bans.

The juror was excused due to scheduling conflicts after saying he would be at risk of failing this semester from missing classes while in court.

Another man, who was also excused, said he had certain beliefs about Muslims based on his friends’ military experiences overseas. A friend served in Iraq and another in Afghanistan. They told him stories that led him to believe Muslim women are submissive to their husbands. He said he would try to set aside his friends’ stories but also said there would have to be something convincing to change his belief.

Salman, who has been animated in court, looked to her lawyer with eyebrows raised and nodded when another woman described beliefs that some Muslims are influenced to do bad while others are peaceful.

“Some Muslims are brainwashed to do horrible things” while others are “like me” and never hurt a person, the woman explained….

Other jurors who knew people killed or injured but said they could remain impartial were kept in the jury pool. Byron and attorneys in the case asked jurors about their views on terrorist attacks, including those on Sept. 11, 2001….

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  1. Jean Terry says

    Mar 5, 2018 at 4:11 pm

    It seems to me that in the Koran it says to steal, kill and destroy non-believers. It also seems that there are many Muslims who agree with that. I wish that leaders and other government officials would get real about this. Muslims riot and file lawsuits and do all kinds of negative things if they are offended. They are offended very easily.

  2. Timothy McAlee, Sr. G.eD. says

    Mar 5, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    There are good Muslims & there are bad Muslims, butt wait for the Califate & even the good Muslims will turn bad!!! Satan is their god, they just don’t know it! Read John 3:16… & Be Saved…

    • CRUSADER says

      Mar 5, 2018 at 4:40 pm

      What’s the definition of a “Good” Muslim?

      Someone who doesn’t devoutly follow the Queer’an and Hateith?
      (Therefore, really an apostate?)

      OR

      Someone who follows the path (Shari’ah) devoutly and resolutely?
      (Therefore functionally a jihadist, either by kinetics, political or cultural creeping?)

      Please define your term “GOOD” Muslim.

      ===============================

    • PRCS says

      Mar 5, 2018 at 5:18 pm

      Adding to CRUSADER’s post, you have it backward, Timothy.

      “wait for the Califate & even the good Muslims will turn bad” should read–and even the bad (moderate) Muslims will turn good (true believers).

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 12:14 am

      Good points, CRUSADER and PRCS.

      And Timothy, you are right–we cannot expect even superfically ‘moderate’ Muslims to stand up for us if Islam gains power here.

  3. CRUSADER says

    Mar 5, 2018 at 4:37 pm

    Picture looks like Louder with Crowder’s “Bob Ross” painted it:

    ================================================

    Painting Muhammad with Bob Ross | Louder With Crowder – YouTube

    • LeftisruiningCanada says

      Mar 5, 2018 at 10:54 pm

      Looks like the “slenderman” in a white gown and turban.

      Explains a lot, given the strange and evil behavior that character inspired also.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 12:20 am

      Yes–hilarious stuff.

    • mummymovie says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 12:48 am

      Awesome!!!
      Totally awesome!

      • CRUSADER says

        Mar 6, 2018 at 2:37 am

        Rather brave as well as spot on action by Steve Crowder.

        He gets irony and humor in a way Muslims in general never can and never will!

        Sad for them, really.

        Moving onward….

  4. rubiconcrest says

    Mar 5, 2018 at 5:00 pm

    The fact that the defendant is a Muslim has nothing to do with the trial. She should be judged by evidence presented and how she acted as an individual.

    • HugoHackenbush says

      Mar 5, 2018 at 5:10 pm

      Exactly. Let the state prove its case. If it does then the maximum penalty would be in order. However, the mere fact that one has a negative impression of Islam as an ideology should not be a pretext for excluding someone from the jury.

      • CRUSADER says

        Mar 5, 2018 at 5:28 pm

        Right, it just shows they are paying attention to matters of concern, which is the point of the trial in the first place!!!!

        To keep a jury member based on below is ludicrous due to its inherent BIAS !

        ==========================================================

        >> The woman who was kept in the pool attended an interfaith class at her church last year because she said she “didn’t understand what was going on in the country.”

        She said she found Islam to be non-violent and learned Muslims and Christians “have a lot in common.”…<<

        • R Russell says

          Mar 5, 2018 at 6:35 pm

          Looks like you have as many lies masquerading a truth in the US as we do in the UK.
          People are too lazy or disinterested to read the Koran and the Hadiths. Ignorance will be our downfall.

        • CRUSADER says

          Mar 6, 2018 at 2:35 am

          Or…..we in the West go through a period of “Jahiliyyah”
          prior to our awakening to power and authority within our
          sacred culture and Rise against this scourge of Islam.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 12:25 am

      True, rubiconcrest–but the defense clearly wants to make sure that the jury is as ignorant as possible.

      • LeftisruiningCanada says

        Mar 6, 2018 at 12:31 pm

        And by doing so are tacitly admitting that islam is the evil cause of all this.

  5. PRCS says

    Mar 5, 2018 at 5:22 pm

    An Orlando Sun poster stated, “I can see where this Dog and Pony show is headed .”

  6. Indiana Tom says

    Mar 5, 2018 at 5:25 pm

    She said she found Islam to be non-violent (snicker) and learned Muslims and Christians “have a lot in common.”…like both breathe air.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 12:26 am

      Of course, Christians don’t go on breathing air for long around the most pious Muslims…

  7. CRUSADER says

    Mar 5, 2018 at 5:31 pm

    Interesting what was occurring a year ago in Orlando:

    —————————————————————

    Rollins reinstates student who battled with Muslim teacher, lawyer says…

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/…/os-follow-rollins-christian-20170330-story.html

    Mar 31, 2017 – The Rollins College student who clashed with his Muslim professor is allowed to return to school.

    • CRUSADER says

      Mar 5, 2018 at 5:51 pm

      Muslim Professor Resigns after Christian Student Stands Up for His Faith

      https://www1.cbn.com/…/muslim-professor-resigns-after-christian-student-stands-up-f…

      Apr 13, 2017 – Honestly, it reminded me of some of the more radical groups I researched when abroad,” Marshall Polston told Central Florida Post. Polston said up until that point he was a straight-A student, but that all changed when his professor retaliated and gave him a 52% on an essay. “I was upset, understandably.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 12:51 am

      Thanks for that information, CRUSADER. Glad the student got to return, and glad the Mohammedan is gone. Of course, this never should have happened in the first place.

  8. Indiana Tom says

    Mar 5, 2018 at 5:41 pm

    I thought she had to have a Hijab on? Didn’t some women win a lawsuit in which the cops would not let her wear her Hijab?

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 12:53 am

      I’m sure despite this manipulation of the jurors that her defense told her it would look better if she ditched the Hijab.

    • StellaSaidSo says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 6:20 am

      Not all Muslim women wear the hijab. Noor Salman was born and educated in the US. She met Omar Mateen on a dating site, and they were married soon after. A photo on Wiki shows her in traditional ‘white wedding’ bridal dress.

      • Indiana Tom says

        Mar 6, 2018 at 8:17 am

        So do they have to wear it or not?
        If they do not have to wear it then the gals who sued the cops should not have won the award. Cannot have it both ways.

        • StellaSaidSo says

          Mar 6, 2018 at 8:44 am

          Muslim women in Western countries who wear the hijab generally do so because it is expected – or enforced – within their particular community.

          However, there are plenty of Muslim women – especially those who are more educated and better integrated into Western society – who do not wear the hijab.

          In pre-1979 Iran, women were not obliged to wear the hijab, nor was it required in modern, pre-Erdogan Turkey.

  9. bodega says

    Mar 5, 2018 at 6:39 pm

    Disgusting. I though our law was clear: There is no secular law in the USA. What is that judge doing, anyway. Ridiculous. Noor should be judged on what she did and did not due in full knowledge of the consequences. She understands or she wouldn’t be milking the lawyers and judge and potential jury members as she is.

    Poor little Noor…she knows full well what her husband did and why.

    What is wrong with Florida anyway? Has it been mulimified?

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 12:55 am

      Bodega, there is *religious* law in the USA.

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 6, 2018 at 9:42 pm

        Oops–I meant to say there is *no* religious law in the USA.

  10. bodega says

    Mar 5, 2018 at 6:41 pm

    I am too tired to be writing and this pale grey script does not help…
    “though” should be “thought”
    “due” should be “do”

    I will be more rested sometime in the future, perhaps!

    • Bev says

      Mar 5, 2018 at 9:51 pm

      Don’t worry about it. There’s all this technology, but no edit button. Makes me crazy.

  11. Bezelel says

    Mar 5, 2018 at 6:53 pm

    Priority deficient to even ask how they feel about islam. Why is there a blindfold on Lady Justice? The evidence is undeniable. The defense is just trying to pollute the evidence.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 12:58 am

      The blindfold indicates impartial justice–or the ideal of it, anyway. Of course, crap like this does not help impartial justice.

  12. Terry Gain says

    Mar 5, 2018 at 7:46 pm

    Hopefully these jurors are practicing Taqiyya. At this point anyone who isn’t anti-Islam is brain dead.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 12:58 am

      That, or in deep denial. All too many of these still around.

  13. Lydia Church says

    Mar 5, 2018 at 9:01 pm

    Only correct answer:

    islam is a false religion responsible for much evil.

    That is the only answer I could ever give.

  14. mortimer says

    Mar 5, 2018 at 10:02 pm

    Only naïve, gullible, simple-minded, uninformed, blasé, virtue-signalling POLLYANNAS are wanted for jury duty.

  15. Ashley says

    Mar 5, 2018 at 10:42 pm

    I can only offer up three words: KATHERINE RUSSEL TSARNAEV.

    • Ashley says

      Mar 5, 2018 at 10:52 pm

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4136106/Orlando-shooter-s-wife-goes-trial-aiding-terrorists.html

  16. gravenimage says

    Mar 6, 2018 at 12:05 am

    Florida: Jurors in trial of Orlando jihad mass murderer’s wife asked their views of Muslims and Islam

    It is most likely that if someone said that he or she didn’t believe that Islam was a religion of peace, or knew that Omar Mateen said he killed 49 people at the Pulse Nightclub because of Islam and his adherence to the Islamic State, that person would not be chosen for the jury.
    ………………..

    Probably so. If the jury is well-informed–or honest–they are not wanted.

  17. mummymovie says

    Mar 6, 2018 at 1:47 am

    The worldwide mind control over the zombie dhimwhit public officials who are all passionately fighting to enable and facilitate the islamic conquest of the civilized world never ceases to amaze and astonish!

    It is absolutely bizarre and unreal beyond words.

  18. Terra Nova says

    Mar 6, 2018 at 4:37 am

    In my opinion, slowly everything starts to change. I came on a few video’s that really surprised me, and then you can see the EU on their best. ca 4500 people, who sit there and earn more then MP and want to dictate every country what and how to do everything. Like they said on the video. They pay 60% less tax,
    fly first class everywhere and stay in 5 stars hotels. And they want us to pay more to the US.
    To start they said it is only the price of a 1/4 cup of coffee a day which is about 80 eurocents a day, but is 292,– euro a year, and that is how they present it, but they is a lot of money again for people who don’t have much in the first place, but pls watch these video’s, you can get them at google . Very interesting

    Nigel Farage destroyed the EU in an amazing speech, gets a standing ovation. Publ February 5 2018.

    EU erupts in anger when speaker Schulz attacks anti EU. Mep’s enjoy the blacklist not on MSM.

    Nigel Farage brilliant Speech at CPAC 2018

    Arrest George Soros, Nigel Farage orders the EU

    They have sold out. Farage’s stunning attack on Corbyn for………

    Marcel de Graaf EU parlement Dutchman speaks

    Farage was the leader and I think , he still is, of the UKIP party in England and member of the EU council.
    He is very witty and not afraid to speak out. I am curious if you see a change Robert and all others, I hope you see the same, and if not, may be it was wishful thinking on my part.

    Then there was another one interesting:
    Military tribunals, why they are absolutely necessary, which is about that whole terrible justice system at the moment , this is in the USA, but it plays everywhere, like that crazy case with that Noor woman and the jurors. But they explain it perfectly in this video how it all works now. So dirty and intriguing, but people are getting fed up and I am with mummy movie’s, IT IS ABSOLUTELY BIZARRE AND UNREAL BEYOND WORDS.

  19. MFritz says

    Mar 6, 2018 at 4:37 am

    A rigged jury from the very beginning.

  20. AP says

    Mar 6, 2018 at 5:41 am

    The Lawyers want an all muslim jury. They know a muslim will not convict another muslim. Korran!.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 9:44 pm

      There are not enough Muslims in Florida to get an all-Muslim jury. But if they can get enough people who are clueless about Islam and think it is a “religion of peace”, then it will help their Jihadist client.

  21. No Fear says

    Mar 6, 2018 at 5:44 am

    The Orlando shooting has nothing to do with Islam because Islam is a religion of peace. Why are the jurors being asked about their views on Islam?

  22. RealTrueFreeThinker says

    Mar 6, 2018 at 7:29 am

    This is absurd. I don’t know if they have asked these same or similar questions in other terror trials? This sets a dangerous presidence.
    Sounds like the cuck college student has been nicely brainwashed in college.

    • StellaSaidSo says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 10:27 am

      The process is the same in all trials.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 9:46 pm

      This is all too common, I’m afraid. The defense tries to stack the jury with people who are ignorant about the case and all issues surrounding it.

  23. Sam says

    Mar 6, 2018 at 9:33 am

    The whole thing is a waste of time and money of us infidels anyhow. We all know it here at JW.

  24. Infidel says

    Mar 6, 2018 at 11:06 am

    VOW!! Just mind boggled again…..How amazing these American lefty judges get… VOW!! What an inspiration???

  25. Politicianophobia says

    Mar 6, 2018 at 3:10 pm

    Crusader, Thank you for the great laugh.

    • CRUSADER says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 8:42 pm

      Pleasure.

  26. CRUSADER says

    Mar 6, 2018 at 9:05 pm

    It’s another “Taqiyya Sunrise” !

    ========================

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2laq6v

    TAQIYYA SUNRISE (new lyrics to “Tequila Sunrise”)

    It’s another TAQIYYA sunrise
    Starin’ slowly ‘cross the sky, another will die!
    Mudmammam was a hired hand
    Workin’ on the dreams he planned to try
    Khadijah walks by …

    Ev’ry night when the sun goes down
    Just another crescent moon above
    Khadijah hires a clown…….

    She wasn’t just an older woman;
    Mudmmam couldn’t keep from comin’ on
    Camel’s breath is too strong….
    Oh, and it’s a hollow feelin’ when
    It comes down to betrayin’ friends
    Desert vengeance never ends —-

    Take another turn round the Kaaba
    Lopping off the limbs of the kufar
    They’ll just get numb ;
    It’s another TAQIYYA sunrise,
    this old world will never be changed;
    Another framed,
    mmmMudmammammm…

    ====================

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 6, 2018 at 9:56 pm

      Very funny.

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