Ahmadis are a small sect — some 10-20 million people out of 1.6 billion Muslims — whom many Muslims do not consider to be Muslims at all, and persecute them or, as sometimes happens in Pakistan and Indonesia, even murder them. The Ahmadis believe that a 19th century Muslim, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, and not Muhammad, was the last prophet chosen by Allah. They consider themselves to be Muslims, but almost all other Muslims disagree, and talk of them as “heretical” Muslims, or still worse, as not being real Muslims at all. An amendment to the Pakistani Constitution in 1974 proclaims that the Ahmadis are “non-Muslims,” and they are required to identify themselves as such on all official documents, including passports. In 1984, a new law was passed, making it possible to jail Ahmadis for such capital crimes as “posing as a Muslim” or “offending a Muslim’s feelings.” Ahmadis are forbidden by law in Pakistan from making the hajj to Mecca. Ahmadi bookstores have been shut down. Ahmadi mosques have been attacked; the last such major attack was in Lahore in 2010 on Muhammad’s birthday, when 94 people died and 140 wounded. Apparently the 2000 Sunnis who attacked the mosque believed the Ahmadis were observing the birthday of the Prophet, something they — as “non-Muslims” — had no right to do. On a lesser scale, Ahmadis have also been killed in Indonesia, and Ahmadi mosques sealed.
Muslims in Pakistan have repeatedly described Ahmadis as even “worse than Infidels.” That is why mobs gather to see justice done against these dangerously camouflaged enemies who look like Muslims, read the same texts as Muslims, claim to be Muslims, and yet cannot possibly be Muslims because they believe that another prophet came after Muhammad.
Even achievements that could bring luster to Pakistan, or to Muslims, are ignored if it means recognizing Ahmadis. The single Pakistani Nobel winner, Dr. Abdus Salam, goes uncelebrated in his own country (save for a single posthumous tribute to him last year in Dawn), which he felt compelled to leave in part because of what he endured as an Ahmadi. When, in 2017, an Ahmadi Muslim actor, Mahershala Ali, won an Oscar, becoming the first Muslim to do so, Pakistan’s top diplomat at the U.N. Maleeha Lodhi, sent a congratulatory tweet, but she was immediately and furiously attacked because Ali is an Ahmadi, and she had to delete her tweet to demonstrate that she was not in any way endorsing that dangerous thing, an “Ahmadi.” The level of hysteria in Pakistan over Ahmadis and “Qadianism” remains — it seems permanently — high.
Now the Islamabad High Court has instructed the government of Pakistan to supply certain information to the Court, aimed theoretically at all those who convert out of Islam to another faith, but the reports claim that this data is really meant to deal only with those Muslims who become Ahmadis. These are the main provisions of the High Court’s request:
First, the government has to hand over to the Pakistani High Court a list of all those who have requested a change of religion from Islam to “Qadianism” (a pejorative term Muslims use for Ahmadiyya Islam, from “Qadian,” the birthplace of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad). Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui, of the Islamabad High Court (IHC), has ordered Pakistan’s Citizen Authority (NADRA), to compile, and forward to him, a list of such converts.
Second, along with a list of the names of an estimated 10,000 people believed to have requested a change of religion, the Islamabad High Court has also directed the citizen authority to provide their ages, their international travel history, and their parents’ names.
This is an attempt to scare people away from converting, or if they have converted, to revert back to mainstream Islam. First, having their names (and addresses) makes it easier for the High Court to institute measures to track their doings, including what schools they attend, what jobs they hold, whether or not they have attempted to pass themselves off as mainstream Muslims (an Ahmadi might well not be hired, or might lose his job, if his new faith were discovered), and whether or not they engage in any form of proselytizing on behalf of “Qadianism.”
Asking for their ages might suggest that the anti-Ahmadi government of Pakistan, as represented by the Islamabad High Court, could claim that some converts should be considered to have been too young to have understood the gravity of what they were doing, and the government might attempt, using that excuse, to make them rethink their conversion. Would a 15-year-old have reached a sufficient age to convert? Or a 20–year-old? The government could pass a law — it would hardly surprise if it’s already in the works — establishing a minimum age for conversions out of Islam to be judged valid.
The same goes for elderly converts. Would someone who is 75 or 80 be considered in full possession of his faculties, or would the government again focus on the age of the convert, and suggest that such conversion out of Islam could be taken as a possible sign of dementia? After all, if you are a Muslim, you surely think that anyone who converts from Islam may not be in full possession of his faculties.
The information about foreign travel might be of value to elements of the Pakistani government in two ways. First, Ahmadis would be required to report if they went to Saudi Arabia. The converts wouldn’t dare to lie about this, given that the Saudis have a record of who comes into their country, which they would no doubt willingly share with their Pakistani friends. So keeping tabs on the foreign travel of the Ahmadi converts is, first of all, a way to make sure they are not making the hajj, which has been forbidden to them. Second, the Pakistani government no doubt deems it useful to know where Ahmadi converts have travelled to, and if, for example, certain countries, or certain cities in those countries, might have an unusually large number of resident Ahmadis. Such information might help the Pakistani government figure out where Ahmadi proselytizers are most busily at work, and where these new Ahmadi converts, on visits, might themselves now be acting as proselytizers, among both non-Muslims and Muslims.
Finally, the Pakistani government (or its agent, the Islamabad High Court) has several reasons for wanting to know the name of the parents of those who have converted from Islam to become Ahmadis. If the government knows the names of those parents, it can hold the parents accountable, and either punish them for “allowing” their children to convert, or threaten to punish them if they cannot persuade their children to “revert” to Islam.
And knowing who the parents of these converts are, the government could punish them for the “sins” of their children — they could lose their jobs, if they work for the government, and would be subject to social ostracism no matter who was their employer — thereby causing some would-be converts to reconsider.
It is astonishing how much animus and fear is directed at the Ahmadis in Pakistan:
“During the hearing [on measures being considered pertaining to the Ahmadis] before the Islamabad High Court, Hafiz Hassan Madni, a professor at the University of Punjab, Lahore, testified that a person who left Islam for any faith – and particularly for Ahmadism – was “dangerous” and needed to be punished, reports Rabwah [an Ahmadi newspaper]. Madni put it thus: “Qadianis are more dangerous than infidels. They are neither Muslims nor Christians and in fact, they have covered themselves under Islam.”
The Ahmadis are more dangerous than Christians and Jews because they outwardly appear to be “Muslims”; they read the same Qur’an and the same Hadith. They are thus seen as liable to confuse or fool or discombobulate many ordinary Muslims, and better able to inveigle him or her into their heretical version of Islam (one so heretical that most Pakistanis insist it should not even be described as a version of Islam) than can the obviously non-Muslim Christians and Jews.
The legal hearing [was prompted by] a petition challenging amendments in Pakistan’s electoral law which give more rights to minority Ahmadis. Earlier the same court barred the NADRA from changing the ‘religion’ column on national identity cards for Muslim citizens.
The petitioner, Maulana Allah Wasaya, has previously asked the government to set up a database of government employees belonging to the Ahmadi faith, according to Dawn.
The Ahmadis are between 0.2 and 2.2% of Pakistan’s population — a minuscule number. They have never attacked anyone, but have frequently been attacked by, even murdered by, mainstream Muslims. So have their mosques. There were mass anti-Ahmadi riots, and the murders of hundreds of Ahmadis, in Lahore in 1953, 1974, and 1984. Not a week goes by without attacks on, and frequently murders of, Ahmadis somewhere in Pakistan. They have been similarly attacked, sometimes beaten to death, and their mosques sealed, in Indonesia, which in the West is wrongly considered to be a bastion of “moderate” Islam. Even in the U.K., an Ahmadi shopkeeper was killed by a Sunni Muslim who said that the shopkeeper had claimed that he himself was a prophet, and so of course deserved to be stabbed to death. Ahmadis live on the edge everywhere in Pakistan. Yet here is the government of Pakistan, full of fear and fanaticism, itself set on edge because 10,000 people — out of a population of 201 million — chose to become Ahmadis.
The reasons for these particular items of information, I have suggested above, but think it bears repeating, is to reduce the number of such converts. By asking for their names, the government is impliedly threatening, in some as yet not clearly defined way, these converts. The government wants to make sure that none of them tries to pass himself off as a real Muslim; this information helps it keep track, and if need be, to inform others — such as, for example, educational institutions and potential employers — because a good Muslim wouldn’t want to inadvertently admit to a college, or to hire as an employee, an Ahmadi convert. Then, the government desires data on the ages of these converts. The government can then determine if among those converts are some who can be deemed to be too young to quite realize what they were doing in converting (including what harm they might be bringing to their family in Pakistan), or too old, and perhaps suffering from dementia. By asking for a list of their foreign travels, the government might be better able to discover where Ahmadi proselytizers living abroad are most active, and to monitor their activities, possibly even send agents to keep tabs on them, or threaten harm to their relatives in Pakistan if they don’t desist. The government can also determine if these Ahmadi converts are making the hajj, despite being forbidden to do so, if it turns out that their reported travel abroad includes Saudi Arabia. Particularly sinister is the collecting of the names of converts’ parents, who might either be punished for their child’s conversion, or threatened with punishment unless they can persuade that child to revert to Islam.
But what about that verse in the Qur’an where it says “there is no compulsion in religion” (2:256)? It’s a favorite verse for Defenders of the Faith. But a moment’s thought shows us how little 2:256 really means. For after being conquered by Muslims, the only options offered to subjugated Infidels are death, or conversion to Islam, or accepting the permanent status of dhimmi, subject to a host of onerous conditions, including payment of the Jizyah, a “tax” non-Muslims pay to prevent being attacked. How many tens of millions of Infidels over the past 1400 years have converted to Islam not out of belief, but out of a desire to avoid having to endure life as a dhimmi? Surely that is a form of “compulsion.”
In any case, 2:256 dates from very early in Muhammad’s Medina period, and has been “abrogated” by later verses, including Quran 2:106 and 16:101.
And Muhammad was very clear about what should happen to apostates: “The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.'” — Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:260.
In Pakistan today, the government is not killing those who have converted to Ahmadiyya Islam. For that, at least, one can be thankful. But that has not prevented Muslim vigilantes from carrying out rough justice (and they are seldom punished for doing so) by killing Ahmadis.
Islam is a brittle faith. It cannot stand to be challenged from within. It regards converts as being traitors, defectors from the Army of Islam. That is why converts out of Islam — apostates — can be severely punished or killed. Most dangerous of all those apostates are those who become Ahmadis, for Ahmadiyya Islam can be confusing to mainstream Muslims. That is why, right now in Pakistan, the most important story is not about the state of the economy, or the general election coming up this July, or the gas pipeline that is being built to run from Turkmenistan to Afghanistan to Pakistan and then to India, or what global warming means for the country’s stability. Nor is it about the Taliban’s activities in challenging the state. No: the main story is about gathering data on 10,000 Ahmadi converts, scarcely visible, but seemingly an endless threat, in a country of 201 million.
StellaSaidSo says
It is to their credit that the Ahmadiyya reject violence and live peaceful lives – even wishing their Christian customers a ‘happy easter’, a ‘crime’ for which an Ahmadi grocer in Scotland was murdered in 2016 by a Sunni co-religionist. The persecution of the minority Ahmadiyya by the far more numerous and bloodthirsty Sunni is a disgrace. However, it should not be overlooked that the end goal of the Ahmadiyya sect is the same as that of all other Muslim sects – the establishment of a global Islamic caliphate. In fact, they claim a caliphate already. The spiritual and administrative head of the world-wide Ahmadiyya sect bears the title ‘Khalifa’.
CRUSADER says
Ahmadiyya never made a pact with al-Wahhab, it would seem….
StellaSaidSo says
The Ahmadiyya sect began in 1889, in Punjab, India.
CRUSADER says
Indeed so.
And it has remained separate from Saudi influences.
gravenimage says
True, Stella–and they still want to see barbaric Shari’ah law.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Ahmadism or Qadianism is a création of mithraist Christian colonialists and they believe that prophet Isa was crucified and now dead, which brought them closer to filthy christianity of Godman worship explicitly rejected in the Quran. Let them join mithraist christianity and leave Islam alone.
MFritz says
You are not from Nigeria. You are a hired criminal and a LIAR. DON’T FEED THE TROLL!
SK says
He’s probably Turkish
LeftisruiningCanada says
ahh, come on MFritz, even trolls need to eat sometimes.
It’s not as if replying to Ibrahim is keeping any of us away from something vital.
I’m sure i’m not the only one who has learned something due to his promptings.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Thank you Englishman, Leftruinigcanada, for correcting m’y English. I offer to teach you basic Arabic if you want
Vlad says
Advanced Arabic 101:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MioW3yjMkQw
No need to bother with “Basic Arabic 101”, by IiM is a fail…
LeftisruiningCanada says
I’d take you up on your kind offer Ibrahim, but, if past precedence is anything to go by, i’m not sure if we could get very far.
Thanks though.
Billy Chickens says
Filthy Islam was spawned from the filthy mind of the filthy Devil who told filthy Muhammad that he was Filthy Allah and to write his filthy words down in the filthy Quran.
Billy Chickens says
Ibrahim I.M. worships the filthy mecca rock. He bows five times a day to a ROCK, therefore filthy islam is a mithraist religion.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Billy chickens, It is beyond dispute that prophet Isa never taught Godman, hé taught monotheism. you and holy spirit (the Satan) who inspired mithraist christianity Will be casted into hottest lake of hellfire.
CRUSADER says
He says it is beyond dispute.
But I DISPUTE IT!!!!
+++++++++
DEUS VULT
+++++++++
LeftisruiningCanada says
” It is beyond dispute that prophet Isa never taught Godman, hé taught monotheism.”
Of course He taught Monotheism. Christian Trinitarians are Monotheists.
Why do you not know this?
“you and holy spirit (the Satan) who inspired mithraist christianity Will be casted into hottest lake of hellfire.”
You have nothing to support your mithra claims, as usual.
And it’s “cast”, not “casted”. I am not criticizing your English language abilities, so please accept the correction in good spirit.
Unless you are making an effort to sound like you don’t know English, which may be the case.
CRUSADER says
Ergo, why we call Itace “Mr Irritates”.
John Hawk says
Good to hear from you, Itace. How about we just call you Icky for short? It seems appropriate, on so many levels.
Well, Icky, as you know as a follower in a rock-revering, pagan death cult, Muhammad claimed to be possessed by Shaitan. This genius also claimed that Shaitan urinates in your ears and sleeps in your nose, and that Shaitan farts when he hears the call to prayer, and that the sun sets in a muddy pool, but I digress.
While it’s certainly true that Muhammad was possessed by Shaitan, the matter goes so much deeper. Muhammad was actually Shaitan in drag. Not a very convincing costume for the Devil, to be sure, and certainly not sufficient to cover up his vile deeds, which included mass murder, rape, pedophilia, and thievery, but I guess even Shaitan Muhammad misses the wardrobe mark now and then.
“They will be known by their fruits,” as the Bible says, and boy, Shaitan Muhammad is surely known for his rotten fruits by any sentient life form with enough brain cells to animate an insect.
So how about it, Icky, when Shaitan Muhammad takes you to his foul, sulfur-smelling bosom in the Last Days and casts you into the lake of fire, do you think you will float for a while upon the molten brimstone, or just sink into the bottomless pit?
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
John, while gasping to die you Will regret being a mithraist Christian. Throw away filthy mithraist christianity and embrace Islam before It is too late
John Hawk says
The Inferno awaits you, Ibrahim. I tried to warn you.
CRUSADER says
Here is some Italian for you, Mr Irritates:
“Vaffanculo” !!!
Carol (the 1st) says
Seeing you’ve run away with the topic here’s something to keep you busy for awhile:
Cult of Mithras Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlF0gVedODE
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed hates Ahmadis for rejecting violent Jihad.
Westman says
Another misdirection of Pakistan to cover up its failures.
I’m reminded of a fat Pastor of a congregation that was not faring well with growth who declared that the reason there were not more members (and more money) was secret spiritual “slackers” in the congregation.
An inconsistent over-reaching religion is a poor basis on which to found an industrial society. Pakistan is like a group of men straining to push a cart with square wheels and declaring the problem (failure) is due to someone not pushing with full effort. Persecuting the Ahmadis will not cause the cart to catch up with the West.
Indiana Tom says
The Muslim cereal boxes may have different colors and cartoons on the outside; but inside it is all SSDD.
Michael Copeland says
Pakistan is a failed state.
Mac-101 says
Since Ahmadis are considered worse than infidels, perhaps Mr Spencer can do an article on Indonesian Subud,. Supposedly Subud was created by Muslim Prophet in the 20th century and has about 15 thousand followers. Supposedly Loretta Fuddy (Hawaii Obama Birth Certificate presenter), and Obama’s mother were practitioners. It supposedly is mainly found in Indonesia, Chicago and Hawaii!
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I promise you if you do a quick search it is some interesting reading
CRUSADER says
I’m ready to convert!
Mac-101 says
From what I read of it, it kinda mirrors the New Age Religion stuff and fits into the NWO plan, but STILL with a majority Muslim flavor. Are Subud members bein persecuted in Indonesia? Are they still around after Fuddy got wacked? I don’t know.
CRUSADER says
Seems that Fuddy was Catholic, her whole life:
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On December 11, 2013, Fuddy traveled to Kalawao County for an annual meeting with the county’s Hansen’s disease patients in Kalaupapa as part of her duties as both Mayor and state health director. Fuddy and other officials concluded the meeting and boarded a plane to return to Honolulu. Her plane, a Makani Kai Cessna Caravan 208B, crashed into the Pacific Ocean off the north coast of Molokai shortly after takeoff from Kalaupapa Airport at approximately 3:30 p.m. Fuddy, who was 65 years old, eventually died from heart failure while she and the others awaited rescue. The eight other people on the plane, who included Deputy Health Director Keith Yamamoto, Kalaupapa National Park administrator Rosa Key, and the Makani Kai pilot, survived the crash and were rescued.
Her funeral was held at the Co-Cathedral of Saint Theresa of the Child Jesus in Honolulu on December 21, 2013.
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Mac-101 says
As I understand it you can be Catholic/Muslim what have you and still be Subud. There is an announcement supposedly announcing her appointment as Sec of State of Hawaii by the Subud and another one sayin she died by them. They are low key and you really have to search for them. Makin it appear to be real. But in an age of Lies, What is da Truth?
Mac-101 says
What is really funny is Obama looks like the Founder of the Subud. He’d have been about 70 if he be dat’s baby’s daddy. LOL!
Mac-101 says
Only one to die in a plane ditchin of a heart attacked announced something like 3 to 6 months after death. Sound like wacked to me.
Carol (the 1st) says
@mac101…Fuddy and the Hawaiian birth certificate are probably just the tip of a huge iceberg. The site below has this very interesting article about Obama’s mother and it gives much food for thought:
Is Obama’s Mother still alive?
http://www.unitypublishing.com/Government/ObamaFamily.htm
Sam says
Time to send money to Pakistan and welcome millions of pakistanies to America. What do you think?
LeftisruiningCanada says
It’s contributed fantastically to the UK, so sure, why not!
Carol (the 1st) says
Trudeau’s been kissing up to the Ahmadiyya’s for years. Wonder what the Sunnis plan warfare-wise? Probably just a matter of time before this fascinating diversity reaches our very own neighborhoods.
Sanjeev says
Very well written and timely. A correction though-Abdus Salam is not the single Pakistani who’s won the Nobel Prize. Malala Yousafzai who won it in 2014 is also a Pakistani, never mind the Pakistanis have disowned her as well.
mgoldberg says
And for all their own oppression, they stand by Islam, and Mohammed and tell non muslims how peaceful Islam is. They betray the reality to non muslims just as easily as do sunni’s and shia’s. I have never seen any mass apologies by muslims for the serial homicidism and all that preceeds and follows.
Carol (the 1st) says
Lying seems to be their “ethic”. Lots of honor among thieves.
gravenimage says
Yup.
CRUSADER says
Maybe the Ba’ab was correct, and the Baha’is have been worshiping the final prophet, so far.
Most likely there will be another prophet…. They seem to arrive like comets do….and as cults form.
(Remember the Nike Comet Cult?)
In fact Canada might have the next Great One already: Prophet Justin ibn Trudeau.
Hold on to your hats! The Big Wind blows hard…
Mac-101 says
Sorso supposedly put a of of money into the Bahai’ religion. It also fits the New World Order kind of thinkin. Supposedly quite a few UN Administrators followed it.
LeftisruiningCanada says
There was a Bahai spokeswoman at Davos recently praising it’s values in front of the gathered elites.. She even quoted some of their ‘scripture’. Same for islam too. I think there was some kind of catholic representative too.
They are all talking about religions coming together underneath the banner of our ‘common humanity’ and environmental issues. Underneath being the key term, since when you listen to them, it’s obvious that they consider religions to be subservient ‘to the greater truth of secular humanism/Communism.
CRUSADER says
Well, the Bahai’s are a catch all for nearly all religions! Monotheistic ones.
They play up to the many scriptures when they gather and worship.
Certainly they don’t seem to have much effect or are much of a threat, other than they obviate that Mudmammam isn’t the FINAL prophet.
They are terribly persecuted in the Middle East, so no wonder they found sanctuary in
Israel and upstate Illinois…for their shrines and quarters.
Still, they are very connected to the Persian culture with lots of emphasis on male directives and even separation among the genders.
Mac-101 says
Same goes for the Subud I posted above. Attempts of Globalist to merge ALL religions into one after THEY crawl out of their bunkers after THEY start WWIII!
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As a once practicing Catholic, one can NOT tell me the Pope is NOT pushin this and same with the large Main Stream Protestant congregations. The Good Book says that in the End Times the Church will be compromised/defiled!
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Also I believe that their main Temple is in Tel Aviv and they plan to move to Jerusalem once they are able too. Keep your ears open for that! I spent an entire weekend researching Bahai about 10 years ago. Also I believe the Ba’abs remains are either buried their or in an urn in Israel.
Eric jones says
The Bahai’s actually had a location right here in NYC. I met a Bahai lady at a social gathering. She was a very sweet person and talked about here faith. I never followed up.
Eric
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, the Baha’i have to whitewash Islam, as well–and tie themselves into knots pretending that Muhammed was a peaceful guy. There was a Baha’i here for quite some time–“worldcitizen1919”–who was always trying to explain that Islam really is a religion of peace.
Karen says
One of the many Sharia “religious sentiment” laws: ” In 1984, a new law was passed, making it possible to jail Ahmadis for such capital crimes as “posing as a Muslim” or “offending a Muslim’s feelings.” ”
An entire religion acting like kindergarteners.
Grow up, Muslims. The only person responsible for your feelings is you. If your feelings would deny another person their religious freedom, then you are a supremacist who’s values are inconsistent with the West.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Same goes for SJWs and ‘gender’ and ‘sexual’ rights activists imho.
Don’t like what someone thinks, you’re free to buy your cakes, flowers and photography services elsewhere.
And yes, this comment does not directly relate to the subject at hand.
Karen says
They are birds of a feather, and your extension of the discussion is very relevant.
CRUSADER says
Ah, the world according to a Rosie outlook!
Thank goodness The Donald has it out against the dreaded O’Donnell.
Sarah says
Ahh, Pakistan. The toilet of the world.
The best thing for just about everyone concerned would be for some idiot Pakistani ‘Scientist’ pressing the wrong button and accidentally nuking their entire country, accidentally turning the whole place into one mega mushroom cloud.
Hell, the environmental impacts from the fallout that we’d all suffer would be worth it, just to rid the world of that teeming cesspit.
mortimer says
Hugh wrote: “Muslims in Pakistan have repeatedly described Ahmadis as even “worse than Infidels.”
That is a virtual declaration of war against the Ahmadis AS PEOPLE! It’s virtually open HUNTING season in Pakistan.
In a clear example of the BEATEN WIFE SYNDROME, the Ahmadis continue to defend Islam which is clearly a DEATH CULT aiming its daggers towards Ahmadiyya Islam.
martin says
Ahmadis in the uk are much evil depraved intentional liars as the others!
Carol (the 1st) says
Here’s an article outlining the main differences from conventional Islam. It also states that many of the writings of their prophet Mirza Gulam Qadiani have not been translated from Urdu and therefore many followers are actually unaware of how greatly it differs:
How does Qadianism (Ahmadiyyat) differ from Islam
http://irshad.org/qadianism/differ.php
Peter V. Burrows says
“In any case, 2:256 dates from very early in Muhammad’s Medina period, and has been “abrogated” by later verses, including Quran 2:106 and 16:101.”
No. 2:106 IS the abrogation verse, and 16:101 is a Meccan verse which predates the compulsion verse.
Don’t complicate things. Just go to sura nine, the penultimate chapter of revelations and the last sura of meaningful revelations. There you will find verses 9:5, 9:29 and 9:123, which put a little compulsion in the lives of pagans, Jews and Christians, and apostates, respectively. Sweet stuff.
gravenimage says
Hugh Fitzgerald: In Pakistan, Those Dangerous Ahmadis
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Thanks for this, Mr. Fitzgerald.
Besides having a later prophet, one of the things orthodox Muslims find most objectionable about the Ahmadis is that they reject violent Jihad (they are still all for imposing brutal Shari’ah law, though).
The Ahmadi carry water for and regularly whitewash Islam in the West–but in Dar-al-Islam, they are oppressed, persecuted, and murdered.