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ISIS “Beatles” jihadis accuse UK government of breaking the law by removing their British citizenship

Mar 31, 2018 10:56 am By Robert Spencer

They joined an entity that considers itself to be at war with Britain. They are traitors and enemy combatants. They held their British citizenship to be of no value until they were captured and needed it again to save their skins. And it wouldn’t be surprising if the thoroughly cowed and compromised British authorities capitulate and restore their citizenship.

“Isis ‘Beatles’ militants captured in Syria accuse government of breaking law by removing British citizenship,” by Lizzie Dearden, Independent, March 31, 2018:

Two surviving members of the Isis cell known as “The Beatles” have accused the government of violating international law by stripping them of British citizenship.

In an interview from the prison where they are being held by UK allies the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), they denied being members of the group headed by the executioner “Jihadi John”.

El Shafee Elsheikh and Alexanda Kotey told the Associated Press they were the victims of “propaganda” and would not receive a fair trial.

Asked about the beheadings of hostages including the American journalist James Foley and British aid workers David Haines and Alan Henning, Kotey claimed many fellow Isis fighters “would have disagreed” with the killings “in the grounds that there is probably more benefit in them being political prisoners”.

“As for my position, I didn’t see any benefit,” he added, blaming governments that refused to pay huge ransoms for their deaths. “It was something that was regrettable.”

Their first interview emerged after authorities announced the death of a British soldier in an explosion from an improvised device in Syria.

It was the first time a member of the UK armed forces has been killed since intervention against Isis started in 2014, with eight volunteers who fought the group with the Kurdish People’s Protection Units killed in the same period.

Both Elsheikh and Kotey were declared “specially designated global terrorists” last year for their roles in the Beatles, with officials holding the cell responsible for beheading more than 27 hostages and torturing many more.

A small number of captives, including French journalist Nicolas Henin, were freed and have told of the British militants’ brutality.

Speaking to The Independent after the pair were captured in January, Mr Henin described all four Beatles as “arrogant, considering themselves as the elite forces of the ‘caliphate’, connected to the highest level of the leadership of the group, and regularly brutal”….

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Filed Under: claiming victim status, Featured, Islamic State (aka ISIS, ISIL, Daesh), United Kingdom Tagged With: Alexanda Kotey, Beatles, El Shafee Elsheikh


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  1. lalluprasad says

    Mar 31, 2018 at 11:01 am

    good job

    • Andy says

      Mar 31, 2018 at 4:23 pm

      “Beatles” jihadis Remember, Paul’s dead.

      The Dark Ages 2 on it’s way to a neighborhood near YOU! Thanks to Islam!

      • Andy says

        Mar 31, 2018 at 4:38 pm

        Can we talk about Islam without being accused of a hate crime!

        Stop being Politically Correct!

        Petition

        Create a Freedom of Speech Act and Bring an End to “Hate Speech” laws

        For several years now the government has been infringing peoples’ most basic rights to speak freely on matters, by deeming their speech “offensive” or “hateful” and declaring that such speech, even online, warrants being fined or jailed. This is an outrage.

        https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/203615

        • Aardvark says

          Apr 1, 2018 at 9:55 am

          Done. I notice that it needs a large number of votes to be brought before Parliament, though.

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 31, 2018 at 9:06 pm

        Some–even much–diversity is fine.

        But not if its those who adhere to a violent, oppressive creed and are bent on oppressing, raping, and murdering you.

        • Andy says

          Mar 31, 2018 at 10:53 pm

          I saw this comment by John Smith:

          Liberals love diversity..just not in their neighborhood

  2. lalluprasad says

    Mar 31, 2018 at 11:11 am

    should go back to they came from in the fist place and continue jihad in that country.

  3. Sentinel says

    Mar 31, 2018 at 11:18 am

    “militants captured in Syria accuse government of breaking law by removing British citizenship”

    That would be the Western Law that they don’t recognise along with the British citizenship they renounced.

    Would they prefer to be tried under Sharia Law for their crimes ? The advantage of that is a quick trial and no need to imprison them afterwards. The best they could hope for if submitting to Western Law is extradition to the USA and spending the rest of their lives in a concrete box and well deserved it would be.

    I’m sure prayers are being said in mosques all over the UK, but truth is, they haven’t got a prayer.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 31, 2018 at 9:17 pm

      Sentinel wrote:

      Would they prefer to be tried under Sharia Law for their crimes ?
      …………………..

      Sentinel, waging violent Jihad is *not* a crime under Sharia law.

  4. Phil Copson says

    Mar 31, 2018 at 11:29 am

    “… it wouldn’t be surprising if the thoroughly cowed and compromised British authorities capitulate and restore their citizenship.” (RS)
    ———————————————————————–

    The BBC’s flag-ship radio station – Radio 4 – were still happily referring to them as “British men” in their reports.

    • Andy says

      Mar 31, 2018 at 5:02 pm

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEbaRRtL9Ho

      Political Correctness has to stop!

  5. utis says

    Mar 31, 2018 at 11:56 am

    Is there an Arabic word for “chutzpa?” They revoked their own citizenship by joining the caliphate, now they whine because Brits shouldn’t get such treatment. Why aren’t they dead now? We droned Adam Al-Amriki Gadahn. No enterprising Brit can make a home-made drone to zap them while they’re being transferred from one Dawa Palace to another? And I wish newsies would stop calling them “Beatles” when they’re more like Leopold and Loeb, or War and Pestilence in that other famous quartet.

    • Jack Diamond says

      Mar 31, 2018 at 8:11 pm

      My understanding was that the SDF who captured them handed them over to the American Special Operations Forces and that we had jurisdiction over these vermin. After all, “Jihad John” beheaded an American, James Foley.

      Calling them “Beatles” makes them sound British, if not pop stars. It is propaganda in itself to do so,
      not to mention utterly insulting to the actual Beatles, one of the last things Britain had to be proud of.

      They don’t deserve to be alive, let alone making demands. Congrats on the British government (finally) stripping them of their citizenship, though. Now do that to ALL of those who joined up with the enemy.
      More likely we’ll get more of the prevailing wisdom, that all these poor Brit recruits were “brainwashed” by ISIS, so it stands to reason they can therefore be “deprogrammed” and be made gear-fab again. Just need a new wash cycle. Maybe Elsheikh and Kotey can grow mop tops before their trials.

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 31, 2018 at 10:04 pm

        Good post, Jack.

        As you note, this is also calumny against the actual Beatles, who depite a couple of small points I disagree with them on were–and are, for the two surviving members–over all something that is very positive and that all Britons can be proud of, and their music is something that people all over the world enjoy.

  6. Joe Creho says

    Mar 31, 2018 at 1:13 pm

    Yeah, they recognise only the law of Allah, don’t they? Filthy, disgusting people,; filthy disgusting hypocrites. Get out of my face.

  7. mortimer says

    Mar 31, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    ISIS fighters repudiated their British nationality and BURNT THEIR PASSPORTS ceremonially.

    Do they now want them back? Did they assume they would be safe to return without punishment?

    The British government must decide if they want terrorists in UK or if they want them to know they can be expelled.

    Jihadi Justin told the terrorists that JIHAD IS PART OF HIS CANADA. He is also financing them.

  8. Gjallarhornet says

    Mar 31, 2018 at 2:48 pm

    Bah. They, as ISIS fighters, don’t recognize any law apart from the law of Allah. That’s what chief British recruiter to this criminal venture, Anjem Choudary, has been on about for years. So, if British law were to be broken (which it has not), they have invalidated their own argument. British law is of no concern to them.

    Tough luck. But hey, if they get killed in some Middle Eastern jail they get to be martyrs. They should be happy.

  9. jude newman says

    Mar 31, 2018 at 5:05 pm

    Well the English government has earned respect from no-one. If they had stood proud, representing the law and it’s people these terrorists were be scared to challenge them, knowing they are traitors and liable for the death penalty.
    Instead we see the terrorists challenging the laws, as if they have rights to go back to England. Shameless, cowardly, stand for nothing government are probably considering letting them back in. Capitulating cowards.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 31, 2018 at 10:07 pm

      They want the Brits to save them from the scary ol’ Americans. Glad to see Britain told them to go suck eggs.

    • Rob says

      Apr 1, 2018 at 7:06 am

      With Sharia May as PM, the restoration of their citizenship is all too possible!

  10. jewdog says

    Mar 31, 2018 at 6:28 pm

    Not “The Beatles”, rather “The Cockroaches”.

    • Aardvark says

      Apr 1, 2018 at 9:57 am

      Which would you rather discover in your house tomorrow morning – cockroaches or these two morons?

  11. Bacherbazistan says

    Mar 31, 2018 at 7:01 pm

    English govt will campaign for their release, give them a guard of honour on their return, free big houses and generous welfare for the rest of their lives.

    Some of their politicians have been describing ISIS jihadis as naïve and misguided, as if they didn’t understand what they were getting themselves into.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 31, 2018 at 10:15 pm

      Um…no. If the British authorites had wanted their release, they would have let these Jihadists retain their UK citizenship. Glad to see them do the right thing for once.

  12. Patrick says

    Mar 31, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    Theresa May and her government are a model of feebleness and acquiescence. Pakistanis commit sexual assaults against young girls in northern England, almost without let, barring a few meagre jail sentences. Against that, revoking the passports of a few notorious criminals is nothing. Quite likely it was done to facilitate US efforts.

  13. gravenimage says

    Mar 31, 2018 at 8:47 pm

    ISIS “Beatles” jihadis accuse UK government of breaking the law by removing their British citizenship
    ……………………….

    Kudos to Britain for doing the sane and decent thing. These Jihadists were *never* Britons, and their using the names of the Beatles could not be more grotesque.

  14. sidney penny says

    Apr 1, 2018 at 2:14 am

    “As for my position, I didn’t see any benefit,” he added, blaming governments that refused to pay huge ransoms for their deaths. “It was something that was regrettable.”

    Instead of blaming Isis fighters for taking hostage he blames the government for not paying ransoms.

    Upside down world?

  15. Ronen says

    Apr 1, 2018 at 2:32 am

    A historic irony:

    The most prominent british caltural phenomenon of the 60’s: the Beatles. A group of pacifistic, liberal, feminist, vegetarian, hyper tolerant people.

    The most prominent british caltural phenomenon of the 2010’s: the jihadi Beatles. A group of shawvinistic, sadistic, fascist, decietful, religious zealots.

    A question:
    Is there a connection between the two phenomena? And if so, what is it?

    My answear:
    The pop band (which I really love) reflected the counter culture of the 60’s, which only became more influential since then. They pushed an ideology of endless tolerance and disrespect to the national concept and its simbols. And as the philosopher Karl Popper said: endless tollerance will lead to the ending of tollerance.

  16. Baucent says

    Apr 1, 2018 at 3:21 am

    “El Shafee Elsheikh and Alexanda Kotey told the Associated Press they were the victims of “propaganda” and would not receive a fair trial.”

    Really? what a shame. They are lucky to be offered a trial, something they denied those they murdered.

  17. Terra Nova says

    Apr 1, 2018 at 5:13 am

    Doesn’t anybody think there is a much bigger plan and organisation behind this all? How is it that muslims feel so confident about beheadings, raping, killing praying on the streets, etc. and knowing they do not get punished? From the beginning on. Somebody told them, told the liberals/leftists/feminists.
    In my opinion there is absolutely more behind this all. And even if muslims should keep to the laws of our land now, do you think there is still a possibility to live together happily in the future?
    And isn’t it strange, that you never read something , parents, uncles, aunts, etc of all those victims, would’n you red or hear how angry, and devastated they are, but nothing, nowhere. Strange !
    That muslims don’t do that, we know why, but the victims are most “infidels, kaffirs.
    This is all very well planned, but then they took there time of planning all this right after the 2nd WW.I must be alone to think like that, never read about this thought.

  18. Terra Nova says

    Apr 1, 2018 at 5:28 am

    It is an insult to the real Beatles. Most Beatles are innocent, harmless creatures/ insects.
    And those, who want to compare themselves with the innocent/harmless now, would they, and on top of that, want to keep their citizenships of a country they HATE so much and they want to conquer it themselves, and run it, and on top of that kill all their infidels? Too much

  19. Mark A. says

    Apr 1, 2018 at 11:02 pm

    I hope the British government doesn’t cave in on this. All ISIS jihadis should be stripped of citizenship in western countries.

  20. Brother Charles says

    Apr 2, 2018 at 8:41 am

    The British have a saying , YOU LAID IN YOUR BED YOU CAN MAKE IT , besides what you have done is TREASON and can still be hung AT THE TOWER OF LONDON , your choice ?

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