Recently Jihad Watch ran a piece by ex-Muslim Saleem Smith about Mubin Shaikh, the “moderate” Muslim spokesman in Canada, entitled “The Curious Case of Mubin Shaikh, the “Undercover Jihadi.”
Longtime Jihad Watch readers may recall that I debated Mubin Shaikh in 2013 about whether or not the Qur’an teaches warfare against unbelievers. You can see that debate here.
Anyway, Mubin Shaikh was furious about Saleem Smith’s article, and took to Twitter — not, of course, to refute the points Smith made or to respond to them in any way, but to seethe and whine about how he was being attacked. I was included in his Twitter fury but ignored it until Mubin wrote “Die in your rage!” to his targets, at which point I responded: “Very moderate, Mubin!”
That was a week ago, last Wednesday, and I forgot all about it until yesterday, when I was walking through an airport and saw this email on my phone from Mubin Shaikh:
From: Mubin Shaikh
To: Robert Spencer
Subject: Lol! You reported my tweet??
Date: March 27, 2018, 2:46 PMLOL! You are such a scoundrel, seriously. You see fit to carry a hit piece on me but report my tweet Die in your rage??
Hahahahaaa … you are beyond pathetic. You even look like a slimeball, God made your face in such a way that it immediately reveals the darkness within.
Interestingly enough, just yesterday morning I had written about this phenomenon: “Leftists and Islamic supremacists are among the most hateful people I’ve ever encountered: in my interactions with people such as Reza Aslan, Nathan Lean, Qasim Rashid, Mubin Shaikh, Khaleel Mohammed and others, I’ve found them to be arrogant, rude, nasty and hate-filled to an appalling degree.” And here was Mubin coming along to prove my point. So I wrote back to tell him I had not reported his tweet:
From: Robert Spencer
To: Mubin Shaikh
Subject: Re: Lol! You reported my tweet??
Date: March 27, 2018, 2:57 PMMubin
You’re insane. I reported nothing.
Your friend (I know, I know, 5:51!)
Robert
Here is the rest of the exchange:
From: Mubin Shaikh
To: Robert Spencer
Subject: Re: Lol! You reported my tweet??
Date: March 27, 2018, 3:02 PM
Pathetic, really.
The only other time my account was ever suspended, was after clashing with you & your followers. In fact, you replied to the very tweet that was flagged. I know you guys move, so this is not surprising to me at all.
I do enjoy how it burns all your collective behinds that I am where I am and do what I do and your hit pieces have zero impact on me. 🙂
Enjoy the rage! lol!
MS
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From: Robert Spencer
To: Mubin Shaikh
Subject: Re: Lol! You reported my tweet??
Date: March 27, 2018, 3:05 PMI don’t know, Mubin, the only one here who is enraged is you. Unhinged, even. But do please calm down. Your account was suspended? I’m sorry to hear it. I think Twitter is stupid. In any case, if it was suspended, it wasn’t because I reported you. But these emails are great and publishable. Do please keep them coming.
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From: Mubin Shaikh
To: Robert Spencer
Subject: Re: Lol! You reported my tweet??
Date: March 27, 2018, 3:09 PMYou can publish whatever you like, be sure to add the fact that I called you a scoundrel and slimeball … anyone looking at your face can see that God Himself wanted everyone else to see those qualities manifested on the outside as a warning. 😉
MS
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From: Robert Spencer
To: Mubin Shaikh
Subject: Re: Lol! You reported my tweet??
Date: March 27, 2018, 3:11 PMSure, Mubin! Thanks!
CordiallyRobert
That was it. So what is it that makes even professional moderate Muslims such as Mubin Shaikh so full of hatred and vitriol? It is inculcated in their religious texts. There is no “love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” in Islam. The Qur’an tells Muslims to hate and have contempt for unbelievers: “Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, ruthless to unbelievers” (48:29). And “O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and let them find in you a harshness” (9:73). It calls non-Muslims “the most vile of created beings” (98:6) and says they are “like cattle, rather, they are more astray” (7:179).
Muhammad was no better. Consider these hadiths (thanks to Sam Shamoun):
Ubayy b. Ka’b told that he heard God’s messenger say, “If anyone proudly asserts his descent in the manner of the pre-Islamic people, tell him to bite his father’s penis, and do not use a euphemism.” It is transmitted in Sarah [sic] as-sunna. (Mishkat Al Masabih, English Translation With Explanatory Notes By Dr. James Robson [Sh. Muhammad Ashraf Publishers, Booksellers & Exporters, Lahore, Pakistan, Reprinted 1994], Volume II, Book XXIV — General Behaviour, Chapter XIII. Boasting and Party-Spirit, p. 1021)
And:
“Then Urwah said: “Muhammad, tell me: if you extirpate your tribesmen, have you ever heard of any of the Arabs who destroyed his own race before you? And if the contrary comes to pass, by God I see both prominent people and rabble who are likely to flee and leave you.” Abu Bakr said, “Go suck the clitoris of al-Lat!” — al-Lat was the idol of Thaqif, which they used to worship — “Would we flee and leave him?” (The History of al-Tabari — The Victory of Islam, translated by Michael Fishbein [State University of New York Press (SUNY), Albany 1997], Volume VIII (8), p. 76)
And in the words of Abu Bakr As-Sideeq to ‘Urwah: “Suck Al-Lat’s clitoris!” — there is a permissibility of speaking plainly the name of the private parts if there is some benefit to be gained thereby, just as he [Muhammad] permitted a plain response to the one who made the claims of the Jahiliyyah (i.e. claims of tribal superiority), by saying: “Bite your father’s penis!”[3] And for every situation there is a (fitting) saying. (Provisions for the Hereafter (Mukhtasar Zad Al-Ma’ad), by Imam Ibn Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah, summarized by Imam Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab At-Tamimi [Darussalam Publishers & Distributors, First Edition: September 2003], Chapter. Regarding the Story of Al-Hudaibiyyah, p. 383; source; words within brackets ours)
By comparison with those statements, Mubin Shaikh does come out looking “moderate” indeed.
Undaunted says
I think you have the face of a warrior.
Andy says
Mubin Shaikh is two faced like his “Religion of Peace” be very, very careful
Andy says
People can go to a site called:
ACT! FOR CANADA
You will find a story about Mubin Shaikh on there dated: March 21, 2018.
Andy says
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/the-curious-case-of-mubin-shaikh-the-undercover-jihadi-part-1
It looks like JW has it covered.
Andy says
https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/no-day-of-action-against-Islamophobia-in-Canada?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=email_thank_you2
Terry Gain says
Thank you Andy. I have signed the Petition and posted it on Facebook.
Andy says
My pleasure, Terry.
Cheers!
mike9a says
When people don’t have ANY arguments they attack how one looks, the way one blink with his eyes, labeling them being something they are not, and with tactic “so, you are saying …” they supposedly listened and then they put everything upside down to what was actually said to fit their agenda.
WPM says
It is funny no matter what befalls an Islamic ,he will blame some else. His account was suspended lash out at any one you had a imaginary beef with{the list of people grows longer each day } without any evidence .Then contact this person who you think cause the suspension and make accusation with no evidence to back it up. E mail this person call him all kinds of foul names ,show how your angry is uncontrolled illogical and childish .I can picture Robert Spencer smiling looking at this man child fit of rage on the E mail ,when logic ,reason ,truth , fail Islam falls back on to stupid pig headed pride and rage .It like watching a 2 year old go into a fit of rage because he cannot put a square peg into a round hole ,when shown how by an adult he refuses to listen. The trouble is there are people in places of power that have the emotional stability of this 2 year olds that the leaders of the free world do not want to call them on their B.S at of fear of being labeled racist .
christianblood says
Mubin Shaikh is a reasonable guy, may be he was having a bad day when he sent those emails to Robert! Dear Mubin, you are better than that! God bless you!
Andy says
Yeah, A bad Hair Day!!! The guy’s bald!! LOL!
Shmoovie says
“…your hit pieces have zero impact on me”
Yes, he certainly showed that in a calm, mature manner.
“LOL” !
6woods says
“Your friend (I know, I know, 5:51!)”
That was beautiful! Robert is classy, as always, in the face of ugliness, hysteria, and petty personal attacks, as displayed by this mubin shaikh.
Older Canadian says
Wonderful that this person is in Canada and is accepted by our government and media.
He appears perhaps he is either struggling in which direction he should go or the jig may be up. Either one is concerning for all.
Linda says
If I were Muslim, (which I’m not and will never be), I’d be very careful about criticizing someone else’s appearance, what with all the Muslim inbreeding that Mohammed allowed. “People in glass houses” and all that.
mv says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6tuQoXhOPQ
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
This imam is engaging in taquyya on steroids: ‘personal reformation of Mohammadans in many generations.’ What bullshit! This imam is wrong or lying, Mohammadism is stoppable in Britain. It’s going to get ugly but it is doable. Tommy has got it right, Mohammadism is not reformable.
I’ve posted it before and I will post it again: Mohammadism is not ‘reformable’ in any way! This erroneous belief comes, in part, from the history of successful evolutions of other religions. Yes, Christianity and Judaism have changed, evolved and reformed, but Mohammadism is not ‘reformable,’ never will be. As you well know, a central tenet of Mohammadism is that Mohammad is the last prophet and his word is the last word. Therefore, any reinterpretation of the literal words of Mohammad is a big no-no. Written directly into the Koran are the words of Allah, “[t]his day I have perfected for you your religion …” (as the imam states). To alter what Allah has perfected would be blasphemous. The literal interpretation has always been and will always be considered the ‘strongest’ reading of the Mohammadan scriptures, and therefore will always be deemed the correct reading.
Even if Mohammadism were ‘reformable,’ do you want the West to be involved in no less than five-hundred years of religious wars? (That is the length of time it took Europe to resolve the Catholic-Protestant divide.) And, if I may remind you, Mohammadism has already been engaged in internecine conflicts/war for most of its history.
As soon as you try to reform Mohammadism you begin the process of creating a whole new religion. The landscape of Middle Eastern religions is littered with Mohammadan spin-offs. (Some consider themselves to still be Mohammadan and others no longer.) A brief sampling: the Baha’i faith, the Ahmadis, the Druze, the Ismailis, the Alawites, etc.
And those few Mohammadan reformers that we see are not undertaking any real reforms; they are engaging in “sophisticated taqiyya,” because, in the end, they are all Mohammadan supremacists.
The only effective way to deal with Mohammadism is isolation and defense. Left to their own machinations, isolated Mohammadan societies weaken and shrink, and become less of a threat to the rest of humanity.
David says
Islam is like the Hydra. Many heads;one body. in Greek mythology, many-headed water serpent; offspring of Typhon and Echidna. When one of its heads was cut off, two new heads appeared. The second labor of Hercules was to kill the monster. He did so by burning the neck after cutting off each head. This seems to be the answer!
Linda says
That is a good video!
Andy says
The TRUTH about “grooming gangs” in Britain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsI0GD0WKZc
mortimer says
Any CHALLENGE TO THE CHARACTER of a MUSLIM by a DIRTY KAFIR is considered a CRIME by discriminatory Sharia law. In Sharia it is a CRIME to REVEAL accurate, factual details about a MUSLIM that the MUSLIM does not wish to be known. Western people call this a PUBLIC REPRIMAND or PUBLIC ACCUSATION or PUBLIC CRITICISM. It is meant to correct the wrong behavior in order to stop it from continuing.
The response of MUSLIMS is to DEFEND ISLAM and MUSLIMS at all costs … even if the accusation is accurate … even if the accusation SHOULD BE MADE for the sake of helping society! A DISBELIEVING KAFIR is not supposed to CRITICIZE a MUSLIM! So the Muslim is SUPPOSED to respond with RAGE in order to threaten and terrorize the kafir.
“GHEIRA” is the name of a doctrine of ISLAMIC RAGE which is said to be a VIRTUE… RAGE and UNCOUTH RUDENESS FOR THE DEFENSE OF ISLAM. Scurrility and slander are NORMATIVE for Muslims in the defense Islam.
Mubin Shaikh’s self-indulgent RAGE and ANIMUS can easily be contrasted with clergy of other faiths.
If a rabbi, priest, minister or Buddhist monk were to use such immoderate speech as did Mubin Shaikh, he/she would IMMEDIATELY be called on the carpet by their respective denominations and asked to give an account to a BOARD OF INQUIRY … and then required to give an apology.
The fact that GHEIR (Islamic rage) is NORMATIVE in Islam actually speaks for itself.
Mubin Shaikh is not actually a ‘moderate’ Muslim but he is a VERBAL JIHADIST.
infidel says
Excellent points
CE says
Dr. Spencer,
Thank you so much for including in your replies quotes from Islamic holy texts to prove your points. Of course, most Muslim apologists will try to claim these hadith as being “unreliable” or “out of context”, but for some reason, no governing Islamic authority has ever had the balls to remove them from their own holy texts or prove how this well worn “out of context” claim ever really applies or changes anything stated in the passage all by itself, or to admit that similar verses of hate from the Quran itself need to be completely removed, if Islam is to ever be able to honestly proclaim itself as a “religion of peace”.
Granddaddy says
Their hatred comes from the fact that Mr. Spencer is not acting like a good kaffir, that’s really all it amounts to. They believe they are better than us (3:110), that we are scum (98:6), that we cause all the evil in the world (2:204-206) and that we rejoice when evil befalls them (3:120). They have only contempt for us. So they follow their golden rule, whether we’ve actually done anything or not:
And those who, when a wrong is afflicted on them, they take revenge. And the reward of evil is an evil like it…And whoever takes revenge after being wronged, so there is no plan against them.
Quran 42:39-41
Imagine being taught this from the time you were a child, and then imagine living in a world where kaffirs don’t agree with everything you say and do and don’t automatically bow to your transcendent greatness. That’s what it’s really about. They don’t act like us. They don’t think like us. There’s not one attempt of what we call rational thought in the Quran. There is only obedience and disobedience. There’s nothing like, “You will know them by their fruits,” or “Seek and you will find,” or “Examine yourself” in the Quran as there is in the New Testament. Most of us don’t think about it, but that’s what our culture comes out of. There are zero points of commonality between our Western culture and Islam.
I used to think Muslims were just people like us, only different. Not any more. I believe the only reason they don’t just start attacking us all on sight is because they don’t want to go to jail. I believe there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim, only a Muslim who doesn’t want to go to jail. And I would certainly think twice about imagining any Muslim could be my friend.
infidel says
U are RIGHT ON THE DOT when U say ” That they (Muslims) are not attacking us because of the fear of law” VERY CORRECT.. else, they would not hesitate to plunge the knife in the back of the next unsuspecting Khafir that ran into them and celebrate it as their good deed for the day… And this is also backed by evidence. There is an islamic leader in India by name of Owaissi (U can google this filthy creature). It is on record, when he said in a public speech that the Indian police just needs to look the other way for 15 mins .. enough time for the Muslims of India to slaughter all its Hindus… FILTHY HATE FILLED CREATURES TO SAY THE LEAST>..
Lydia Church says
And that was ‘moderate’ islam for you! It’s a wrap!
Again, you expose what they have already done, and that makes you the ‘bad buy,’ then they complain, you could report them but don’t and then they accuse you and it descends into attacks on appearance and empty insults…. typical of those on the losing end of a battle without reason to support them!
And Mubin is obviously just jealous that Robert is so much better looking!
Just a basic comparison shows:
Robert:
Distinguished
Masculine
Scholarly
Dignified
Intelligent
Virtuous
and of some sort of
Mediterranean descent
with a dash of ‘biblical patriarch’
thrown in, like he would make
a good ‘Abraham’ in a Bible
movie if the beard grew a bit.
( ;
With Mubin:
A bald guy with a ‘bad hair day’!
A slimy grin
Would cast well as ‘mohammed’.
(I’m even being kind here…)
Let him wallow in his rage.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Relic says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d4lN-MHvRI
infidel says
Have to hand it to U Robert, when U take on these hate filled creatures single-handed…and U still maintain Ur class and dignity.. One thing to note here is that RANDOM RANTING AND RAVING, FOISTING IMAGINARY CHARGES ON KHAFIRS, PLAYING VICTIMS etc are the some of the fav pastimes of the so called Mod Muslims. The fact of the matter is that the hatred of Khafirs bubbles out now and then, which these so called mods suppress with great effort in order to play nice and sweet and these acts are more like venting off.. There is so much rage actually in the likes of MAD MUBIN…That way the mad Jehaadis are actually better in the sense that they do not play this double game and U can see them clearly coming for U.
Sentinel says
It’s the ad hominem attacks that are pathetic. Mubin Shaikh’s invective is about himself as he’s the most pathetic.
Roh says
By the time Islam is Reformed , most of us will be converted to Islam in 100 to 200 Years.
Yes.Nice one?
They really think west is that thick.
May God Help us.
STOP ISLAM ,It is not a religion.
Please look at History!!!!??
David says
I think what Robert needs to do, is stop wasting his valuable time responding nicely to msulim insults. It is totally pointless and unproductive. I do have the same problem; replying to comments from muslimes. We must resist, and concentrate our efforts in the best way.
Robert Spencer says
David:
Oh, I do a few other things as well.
Andy says
Mr. Spencer have a Happy Easter and Ms. Geller Happy Passover “Chag Sameach!” (Happy Holiday).
Thank you for all the work you and your colleagues have done and are doing.
Andy says
The Lord Bless You And Keep You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-eHCxMM3PI
WPM says
Responding nicely sends them into fits and rage when they have nothing to say to counter your points that Islam is morally bankrupt. When they are reduce to small stupid insults on your looks ,or personal appearance you know they are empty barrels with nothing inside making a lot of noise. Angry , rage, personal insults are a sign of fear and helplessness in a debate of words when you run out of reasons to defend your side. Robert Spencer is a superior person he will not debate with personal insults he sticks to facts ,reason and truth in the end the best method to defeat Islam lies ,and false promisers .You cannot reform something based on hate, lies ,fear and violence as it foundation for its being .
Ezra says
After years of study of this muhammedan system I have concluded that it is not one that can be reformed. In fact, it is most probable that the political arm (which is supported by the ‘religious’ component) is indeed the antichrist system that the prophets reveal.
One of the BIG lies moslems bandy about like a cudgel against opponents of islam is that the religion is somehow ‘abrahamic’ – and Christians as well as Jews, people of good will, buy into this charade. The emails reflecting the qur’an and haddiths that Robert Spencer shares with his ‘moderate’ moslem friend bears out the premise that islam is a polytheistic religion that muhammed synthesized into a hodgepodge system. One need look not much further than that pilgrimage moslems make to mecca to worship a black rock – an idol they have enshrined in a forty foot cube. It supposedly takes away their sins!
Any thinking person who believes the islamic system can be reformed is fooling himself.
Granddaddy says
One of the BIG lies moslems bandy about like a cudgel against opponents of islam is that the religion is somehow ‘abrahamic’
Exactly. Not only the made-up “hodgepodge”, but Muhammad doesn’t even fit the prophet he’s supposed to be in the Old Testament: Deut 18:18. That prophet is described as an Israelite, and Muhammad was an Arab. And not only that, but all the prophets in the Bible were Jews. Even Jesus was a Jew. Was Muhammad a Jew? It’s like a Christian going to the Buddhists and saying, “I am your prophet.” It’s ridiculous. Muhammad was a phony.
Politicianophobia says
Robert Spencer is charming, handsome, sweet and one of my few heros is this crazy world. Happy Easter Robert.
Richard Courtemanche says
Mubin was given a home in Canada and in his disrespectful self, the RCMP had to give him $1million to provide info on a terrorist group. Quite a patriot, isn’t he! No doubt, he’s got issues.
Ewanda says
I’m pretty sure everyone has moved on but I still want to comment on this article.
I don’t know how anyone can refer to Mubin Shaikh as a “moderate”. Has no one noticed that he has changed his original messy style of beard, when he turned in the Toronto 18, from a regular one to this very distinctly carved out jihadi style? That says it all right there. How can anyone think that he should have clearance to RCMP and CSIS secret information? Is he taqyying us by turning in a possible made up plot to gain the trust of the police to access inside intelligence? or is he taqyying his Islamist comrades by sporting that style to keep their trust? Do we really need someone who has been brought up to lie in only 3 cases?……… to your wife, to your enemies, and to your friends. WHOSE LEFT? ………
and he has not publicly renounced his Islamic goals?
Why does Mubin Shaikh keep relapsing into his subliminal Ideology with his interactions with Robert Spencer? … because his brain is already indelibly imprinted with those concepts. Only a miracle can change the heart of Mubin Shaikh and I hope he gets one.
Then again how can anyone disrespect such a brave, brilliant, and dedicated personage as Robert Spencer. I am truly blessed and grateful that he is on our side.
Harbi says
Mubin is another Maajid Nawaz, nothing but a two-faced stealth jihadi desperately trying to normalise Islam so it’s allowed to expand into Western societies unimpeded. Both are complete snakes – “for war is deceit”.