“Pakistan fought a made-in-America jihad against Russia in Afghanistan. We committed the same mistake after 9/11.”
Pakistan is not an ally of the United States. The pretense that it is must be ended.
“Country will never act as US proxy in any war: Asif, Dawn, March 10, 2018:
ISLAMABAD: While giving a policy statement in the National Assembly, Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif said on Friday that Pakistan would not serve as a proxy for the United States in any war.
Another minister told the house that the government planned to repatriate Afghan refugees in two years.
The foreign minister said people of Afghanistan and other Muslim countries often wanted Pakistan to take part in the wars fought within their borders. “However Pakistan will not act as a proxy in any US-led war,” he said.
Mr Asif was responding to a calling-attention notice of Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman who wanted to know why Pakistan had not voted against the war in Syria during a debate in the UN Human Rights Committee.
Mr Rehman said that of the eight Muslim countries in the committee three Muslim states did not cast their votes, including Pakistan.
The minister said that lack of harmony and unity among the Muslim countries was the main reason behind the various problems they were facing. “No enemy can harm Muslims if they do not become facilitators of the enemy.” He said everyone knew who had taken the militant Islamic State group from Iraq to Afghanistan. The next target of the militant group could very well be Pakistan.
“Pakistan has always remained a target of others because people of all warring Muslim states look towards Pakistan and its armed forces for help,” he said.
In the past Pakistani rulers compromised the country’s sovereignty only to protect their own rule and interests, and fought a “fake jihad” for the defence of the US, said Mr Asif. “That was one of the biggest mistakes that we have committed.
“Pakistan fought a made-in-America jihad against Russia in Afghanistan. We committed the same mistake after 9/11,” he said….
RichardL says
Pakistanis have the same Achilles’ heel than other Muslims, but it is even bigger: they think they are smarter than everybody else. I found it funny when dealing with their military, especially the ISI. They really believed that I believed their lies.
Mac-101 says
So what do you think will happen? It appeared to me back in 2009 that Afghanistan would become integral economic part of Red China due to the massive road building the USA did to Red China so the Chinese could develop their copper and rear earths. Do you think Pakistan will be bribed to join in and ally with China for economic reasons and security since they hate India so much?
RichardL says
Maybe the Chinese will ally with the Muslim world to counter-balance the US-Russian cooperation that I see coming but the Chinese have the Uighur problem. I also don’t see any value in Afghanistan. It will never be under any foreign nation’s control. I hope Trump sees that soon.
Mac-101 says
When one flies around Afghanistan many of the mountains are Bronze color due to the high concentration of copper oar combined with the fact the entire country has almost been totally denuded of vegetation due to the population explosion that has occurred in the last 30 years. I have read it is full of rare earths including massive amounts of Lithium oar. I do not know this as a fact.
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I do know in 2009 we were building a 4 lane highway through the mountains of Afghanistan to China. I watched them building it while flying around. Also the northern portion of Afghanistan had thousands of gas wells capped off from the Soviet days. They couldn’t keep them in operation since they’d git blown up continuously.
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With todays technology China, combined with their total disregard of human life, could domesticate Afghanistan easily. What can NOT be pacified, could easily be satirized and repopulated with Chinese. Kinda like a Tibet Program but quicker and more ruthless!
gravenimage says
Mac, I don’t think China would have any better luck in Afghanistan than the Soviets did.
Mac-101 says
Don’t forget the Chi-Coms have the newest high tech weapons and will slaughter millions. Combined together they can passivify/sterilize anyplace.
esther says
Pakistan is NOT OUR ALLY——I have worked with and socialized with
LOTS OF PAKISTANIS——of all muslims in the world (including Saudis)
they are the MOST BRAINWASHED into the islamo-Nazi mode—-the
writings of Nazi war criminals that escaped Germany to avoid
the Nuremburg trials are part of their GRAMMAR SCHOOL curriculum.
It takes PROFICIENCY in “Nazi” for them to get into good colleges
over there. —–the Nazi stuff is not “Aryan” Nazi—–it is “MUSLIM-NAZI”
complete with Islamic revised world-history and MUGHAL UBER ALLES
Mac-101 says
I wonder how many Pakistan Doctors in the USA are Real and not bogus degrees?
Jack says
CIA CFR OSS OSB DP BB OMFG.
This gentleman is brave thank you for sharing.
I remember the school that was attacked a number of years ago killing many children. What was that about?
Jack says
OSB I mean OBL Osama Bin Laden and OSS? Omar Saeed Sheikh
Georg says
Yes, Pakistan was/is so very committed to fighting on behalf of the US after 9/11; this explains why they immediately turned in the largest mass-murderer in US history and never allowed him to live just down the road from a military base for a decade and didn’t imprison a medical doctor for having the temerity to turn him in. All hail Islam’s relationship with logic and truth.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
It is a good step taken by Pakistan to halt sinister plots by the West to weaken muslims. It was the evil united states Who created and sponsored Alqaeda and other misguided wahhabi groups to weaken Muslim nations in the same way mithraist christian West sponsored a jew called Abdulwahhab as Propaganda tool to fight ottoman Turks. Turkey under Erdorgan has already realised that alliance with evil united states and fascist evil zionist state of Israel is suicidal and now shifting its policy. All muslims shall do the same.
Segzy says
It will be a dream come true, if all Muslims shall create their own space in the world, of course! Contrary to your shallow and deceptive remark, Muslims are running away from Islamic countries, from oppression, from filth, and from zombie-hood lifestyle, into the West, like their eternity depends on it.
The only problem with migrating Muslims is that, they are running away from their disease-infested countries to the west, but they still carry the same pathogen, which spawned the disease, from which they run, in the first place. Thus pathogen has a name and it’s name is Islam.
Anywhere Islam is, it is only a matter of time b4 it comes to maturity.
When it does come into maturity, it becomes symptomatic, with such symptoms as, terrorism, taquyyah, ostracise apostate, and kill them when possible, etc.
You’re kidding, Islam cannot keep its own space, it can’t keep any space to start with.
This evil will turn on itself, if it’s the only one religion, in the world.
Who killed the four rightful caliphs, Muslims or Kaffirs?
The answer is just an example of what will happen to Islam, in its own exclusive space
Mac-101 says
But it will continue to expand without righteous people fighting it. It’s like the mob can kill half of their members, but unless the Authorities are Righteous and Lawful, the Mob continues to operate and grow, even more so with TERROR!
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed has already claimed that all Jihad terror groups are Jewish–and yet, he has also affirmed that Muslims can rape and slaughter Infidels in Jihad.
Really, the cognitive dissonance of Muslims is something…
to Jacqueline says
Ibraham Itace, I can’t believe you are real. I really think you post these inane comments just to see what kind of reaction they will get.
Guy Forester says
I get the same feeling. I urge everyone to NOT respond to his posts. Often, they make no sense anyway. It looks like someone posting in a foreign language using a google or similar translator.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Fake yoruba segzy,we are talking about alliance among nations. muslim nations should form their Union to protect their interests Instead of division and alliance with treacherous evil united states that creats instabily hindering economic développement. Turkey and Pakistan are now leading to form this New muslim bloc.
CogitoErgoSum says
The Golden Age of Islam extended from the 8th century to the 13th century. Its decline began long before the United States came into existence in 1776. What was called Dar al-Islam no longer exists. I think that for it to return a Caliph would be required (or a governmental system such as Iran has) which administers Sharia over the land. Since almost every nation on Earth is a member of the United Nations and that organization holds forth that the normal relationship between its member nations is one of peace, I would say that right now the entire world could be said to be either Dar al-Hudna or Dar al-Ahd (see the link below).
However, per Quran 9:29 it the duty of Muslims to always fight (when the conditions are favorable) to make the entire world Dar al-Islam.
Information from Wikipedia on Dar al-Islam:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divisions_of_the_world_in_Islam#Dar_al-Islam_(House_of_Islam)
gravenimage says
Isn’t it interesting how America and the Joooooooos can–somehow–whip up “instabily” the between Muslims that prevents them from conquering and enslaving Infidels? Oh, the humanity!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Cogitoergosum, the theory of Islamic political system is not static. The theory propounded by classical muslim jurists that there shall be country under one leader is longer praticable now. It is a principle of sharia that where a rule laid down by early muslim scholars is not praticable in a given time, It has to be reviewed by contemporary Islamic scholars. See Tabsiratul Hukkam by Ibn Farhun attached to the margin of Fatahu Aliyil malik by muhammad Alish volume 2 at page 12-15.But idont if the book is translated into English. Never the less, you can See Hamidullah’s work :Islamic Law of war and peace (In English).
As such muslim nations of today need not be amalgamated to form one country for them to Come togher as a bloc. They could form à powerful bloc like NATO and EU.
Thank you
Mac-101 says
So what is your example of the purest Islamic Paradise that exist on earth at this time?
gravenimage says
Pakistan’s Foreign Minister: “Pakistan will not act as a proxy in any US-led war”
Pakistan is not an ally of the United States. The pretense that it is must be ended.
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Spot on.
Chris Malan says
The USA should long ago publicly have let India know that’s it open season on Pakistan and that the USA would defend India’s right to ‘defend itself’ by mobilising and invading Pakistan. Why are politicians so stupid?
Jacqueline says
I estimate that since 1948, the U.S. has sent more than $80 BILLION to Pakistan in economic and military aid – and this is the thanks we get. Maybe Donald Trump will have the courage to end this farcical relationship.
Hogdude says
Pakistan, it you get uppity, we won’t allow any more T-shirts you make to be imported into the U.S. We’ll embargo your stuff.
Guy Forester says
Good riddance. We do not need your help.