The plague of Islamic terrorism is based on “grievances” against Israel — so says Al Azhar, the world’s most prestigious madrasa (or Muslim “university”) that co-hosted Barack Obama’s 2009 “A New Beginning” speech. During a recently televised Egyptian interview, Ahmed Al Tayeb — Al Azhar’s grand imam, once named the “most influential Muslim in the world” — said:
I have noticed that they are always telling us that terrorism is Islamic. All those mouthpieces that croak — out of ignorance or because they were told to — that the Al-Azhar curricula are the cause of terrorism never talk about Israel, about Israel’s prisons, about the genocides perpetrated by the Zionist entity state….If not for the abuse of the region by means of the Zionist entity, there would never have been any problem. The Middle East and the region would have progressed, and the Arab individual would have been like any other person in the world, enjoying a good life, or at least enjoying the right to live in peace.
There’s certainly much to comment on here. First, Al Azhar has in fact been exposed time and time again teaching the same “anti-infidel” and supremacist doctrines that groups like the Islamic State rely on. After being asked why Al Azhar, which is in the habit of denouncing secular thinkers as un-Islamic, refuses to denounce the Islamic State as un-Islamic, Sheikh Nasr, a scholar of Islamic law and graduate of Al Azhar, said:
It can’t [condemn the Islamic State as un-Islamic]. The Islamic State is a byproduct of Al Azhar’s programs. So can Al Azhar denounce itself as un-Islamic? Al Azhar says there must be a caliphate and that it is an obligation for the Muslim world [to establish it]. Al Azhar teaches the law of apostasy and killing the apostate. Al Azhar is hostile towards religious minorities, and teaches things like not building churches, etc. Al Azhar upholds the institution of jizya [extracting tribute from religious minorities]. Al Azhar teaches stoning people. So can Al Azhar denounce itself as un-Islamic?
But what of Tayeb’s other point, that because Israel “abuses” Palestinians (meaning fellow Muslims), aggrieved Muslims around the world have had no choice but to turn to jihad/terrorism? This of course is another rehashing of the “Muslim grievance” myth popularized by al-Qaeda post 9/11. Back in 2009, bin Laden said:
You [Americans] should ask yourselves whether your security, your blood, your sons, your money, your jobs, your homes, your economy, and your reputation are more dear to you than the security and economy of the Israelis….Let me say that we have declared many times, over more than two and a half decades, that the reason for our conflict with you is your support for your Israeli allies, who are occupying our land of Palestine [emphasis added].
Needless to say, this message was (and continues to be) swallowed hook line and sinker by many Western analysts — even as bin Laden was stressing to fellow Muslims (in Arabic) the “real reason for our conflict”:
Our talks with the infidel West and our conflict with them ultimately revolve around one issue — one that demands our total support, with power and determination, with one voice — and it is: Does Islam, or does it not, force people by the power of the sword to submit to its authority corporeally if not spiritually? Yes. There are only three choices in Islam: [1] either willing submission [conversion]; [2] or payment of the jizya, through physical, though not spiritual, submission to the authority of Islam; [3] or the sword — for it is not right to let him [an infidel] live. The matter is summed up for every person alive: Either submit, or live under the suzerainty of Islam, or die [The Al Qaeda Reader, p. 42].
More emboldened jihadis have of late dropped the façade. In an article unambiguously titled, “Why We Hate You & Why We Fight You,” the Islamic State confessed that “We hate you, first and foremost, because you are disbelievers.” As for any and all political “grievances,” these are “secondary” reasons for the jihad:
What’s important to understand here is that although some might argue that your foreign policies are the extent of what drives our hatred, this particular reason for hating you is secondary, hence the reason we addressed it at the end of the above list. […] The fact is, even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam. Even if you were to pay jizyah and live under the authority of Islam in humiliation, we would continue to hate you [emphasis added].
This threefold choice, then — conversion, subjugation/jizya, or the sword — is the ultimate source of conflict between Islam and everyone else; it’s why prudent non-Muslims have always found the question of achieving permanent peace with the Islamic world an unsolvable problem. As professor of law James Lorimer (1818-90) wrote over a century ago:
So long as Islam endures, the reconciliation of its adherents, even with Jews and Christians [“People of the Book”], and still more with the rest of mankind, must continue to be an insoluble problem.…For an indefinite future, however reluctantly, we must confine our political recognition to the professors of those religions which…preach the doctrine of “live and let live” (The Institutes of the Law of Nations, p. 124).
In other words, political recognition — with all the attendant negotiations, diplomacy, and concessions that come with it — should be granted to all religions/civilizations except Islam, which does not reciprocate nor recognize the notion of “live and let live” (as evinced for example by the Koran’s commands for Muslims to “enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong” (e.g., 3:110) — that is, enforce Sharia upon earth).
Nor is Islamic supremacism confined to doctrines and scriptures that are “open to interpretation”; history makes an equally ironclad case. As I document in my forthcoming book, Sword and Scimitar: Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam and the West, Muslims, through countless jihads, invaded and eventually conquered some ¾ of all Christian lands; the scale of destruction and atrocities accompanying these jihads make Islamic State atrocities seem like child’s play.
If Israel had nothing to do with all this — it did not even exist — are we really to believe that grievances against it are responsible for Al Azhar still teaching, and Muslims still upholding, the same doctrines that caused them to terrorize all non-Muslims for centuries?
No, this is yet another case of Muslim apologists trying to kill two birds with one stone: portraying — and thus exonerating — Islamic terrorism as inevitable, grievance-based reactions to Israel, which deserves all blame. In reality, the ultimate “grievance” Muslims have against all non-Muslims is just that — that they are non-Muslim, inferior infidels that must be subjugated one way or the other.
CRUSADER says
Looking forward to expanding the library:
” Sword and Scimitar: Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam and the West ”
– August 28, 2018 —
by Raymond Ibrahim
Lydia Church says
It is… after all…. (sigh)…. your fault that terrorism exists.
(Sigh.)
You see, if you did not exist, then they would not have to terrorize you.
Once you are gone, the terrorism will stop.
But it can’t stop until then.
See, it’s not really their fault….
(obviously sarcasm here… just saying).
gravenimage says
Spot on, Lydia.
J D S says
This idiot don’t have a clue …..firstly islam has been the promoter of terrorism since it’s beginning the made up man muhammad, if he really ever existed, used every facet of terrorism from the very start of his pagan religion……I do kinda blame the Jews for some of the world’s problems…Oh nothing they are doing today…but from the past.
If the Israelites. Would have obeyed God on their march to the promised land and did to those pagan people’s as he commanded….kill every……….
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Well i’m not going to give away the ending…pick up a Holy Bible and read it for yourself. It’s exciting.
CRUSADER says
Prager U on Israel/Palestine….
concise explanation of The Conflict:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylgm8hQBRWY
gravenimage says
Yes–I thought most people would forget Israel giving up Gaza and the Synai, and so it is. Just insane.
gravenimage says
Sinai
mortimer says
Ahmed Al Tayeb is one of the LEADING TAQIYYA-MEISTERS in the world. EVERY DAY, he shovels truckloads of HOT, STEAMING TAQIYYA for the consumption of GULLIBLE, UNINFORMED, WESTERN POLLYANNAS who gulp it greedily down, then declare it ‘DELICIOUS’ and then ask for MORE.
As jihad watchers KNOW, Islam has ALWAYS HATED JEWS. The Islamic Empire began with the SLAUGHTER and ENSLAVEMENT of Jews in Yathrib.
ISLAM IS BASED ON JEW HATRED.
bodega says
Exactly. There can be no reconciliation. I am so glad the Jews are so clear in their understanding of the Qur-an. I do not understand why liberal Westerners are not…I think it because most liberals are not necessarily logical . that sounds biased but I say that based on my experience as a teacher.
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, many Jewish people are quite clueless, as well. Even in Israel there are many who have no idea.
Carol (the 1st) says
Just when you think Pope Francis can’t be topped for being a shameless phony, along comes al-Tayeb!
mortimer says
THE ‘GRIEVANCE’ in Islam is called “AL WALAA WAL BARAA” (Islamic apartheid= adherence to Muslims and disassociation from DIRTY KAFIRS).
Robert Spencer wrote: “In an article unambiguously titled, “Why We Hate You & Why We Fight You,” the Islamic State confessed that “We hate you, first and foremost, because you are disbelievers.”
In other words: ALLAH HATES KAFIR (wrong worshippers…because they do not worship ‘correctly’)… so ALL Muslims must HATE the kafirs TOO.
Westman says
I would go further and say that the hatred of Islam for unbelievers, from the beginning, was a proxy scapegoat for Arab feelings of inferiority to those who controlled and kicked Muhammad out of Mecca.
Israel is but an auxiliary scapegoat, useful for leverage in other jihad.
Iran cries foul over “Palestinians” but doesn’t want them. Even Jordan, the closest relative, doesn’t want them. It seems blatantly obvious that the ME is the most tribal racist region in the world and that the great “Muslim Brotherhood” is as real as a hot summer road mirage.
The only things Muslim nations hate worse than each other is the West and Israel – because they are more successful and powerful in the modern era; making Allah into a liar when the “best of peoples” fall behind.
mortimer says
Westman, PLEASE look up and STUDY “AL WALAA WAL BARAA”. This is not about OPINION. W-B is an ESSENTIAL DOCTRINE and the very BEDROCK of Islamic ideology.
You CANNOT understand Islam without a THOROUGH understanding of W-B.
gravenimage says
Westman knows this, Mortimer.
Westman says
Hey, I understand what you’re saying – I’m digging deeper ad to WHY this doctrine was invented by Muhammad or his 8th century creators. It didn’t just materialize. There is no “Allah”. Al Walla Wal Barra was created by people.
gravenimage says
True, Westman.
More than any other faith, Islam is based on hatred for those who do not share their beliefs.
I’m rereading the Qur’an right now–most of it is about how Allah hates the unbelievers, and how Muslims should fight the unbelievers.
No other faith does this.
Carol (the 1st) says
Westman is probably close to the truth – the way Mohammed viciously turned upon the Jews sounds like the classic reaction of a malignant narcissist with a wounded ego.
Carol (the 1st) says
Westman is probably close to the truth – the way Mohammed viciously turned upon the Jews sounds like the classic reaction of a malignant narcissist with a wounded ego.
CRUSADER says
Farrakhan !
Sounds like this could be said of Farrakhan !
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Michael Copeland says
Impose Sharia Law on All Mankind – I.S.L.A.M.
CRUSADER says
Brilliant acronym.
If the Queer’an were written in English, originally,
that obviously would be the literal meaning….
as it is the intentional meaning in any lingo.
gravenimage says
+1
Jack Diamond says
“…even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam.”
Because the jihad was declared 1400 years ago.
As for the Jews, the war is forever, Israel or no Israel. There is no political solution regarding Israel because, according to Islam, the land has been declared a Muslim waqf (endowment) forever, based upon a 7th century conquest and must be regained for Islam; because the existence of Israel is a direct rebellion of dhimmis against their status of dhimmitude and the shari’a itself, therefore intolerable; because the jihad against Israel is the same as the jihad against all the rest of us, for exactly the same reasons; and because the especially ferocious enmity with the Jews that fills the Qur’an and sunnah is unending, til the Day of Judgment.
“{The Jews} are enemies not because they occupied Palestine. They would have been enemies even if they did not occupy a thing.”
–Egyptian cleric Muhammad Hussein Ya’qub, Al Rahma TV Egypt, 1/17/2009 {MEMRI archives}:
“If the Jews left Palestine to us would we start loving them? Of course not. We will never love them. Absolutely not. The Jews are infidels, not because I say so, and not because they are killing Muslims.
but because Allah said “The Jews say that Uzair is the son of Allah, and the Christians say that
Christ is the son of Allah. These are the words from their mouths…it is Allah who said they are infidels.
Your belief regarding the Jews should be, first, that they are infidels, and second, that they are enemies. They are enemies not because they occupied Palestine. They would have been enemies even if they did not occupy a thing.
Allah said “you shall find the strongest men in enmity to the believers to be the Jews and polytheists.” Third, you must believe that the Jews will never stop fighting and killing us…”and they will not cease fighting you until they turn you back from your religion, if they can.” This is it, we must believe that our fighting with the Jews is eternal. and it will not end until the final battle-and this the fourth point. You must believe that we will fight them, defeat, and annihilate them, until not a single Jew remains on the face of the earth.
It is not me who says so, the Prophet said: ‘Judgment Day will not come until you fight the Jews and kill them. The Jews will hide behind the stones and trees, and the stones and trees will call, ‘Oh Muslim! Oh
servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!’
As for you Jews, the curse of Allah upon you, whose ancestors were apes and pigs…Oh Allah, bring your wrath, punishment, and torment down upon them Allah, we pray that you transform them again and make the Muslims rejoice in seeing them as apes and pigs. You pigs of the earth! You kill the Muslims with that cold pig blood of yours.”
gravenimage says
Fine post, Jack.
My favorite line is “You kill the Muslims with that cold pig blood of yours”–obviously, they are not talking about suffering from actual violence.
gravenimage says
I have noticed that they are always telling us that terrorism is Islamic. All those mouthpieces that croak — out of ignorance or because they were told to — that the Al-Azhar curricula are the cause of terrorism never talk about Israel, about Israel’s prisons, about the genocides perpetrated by the Zionist entity state….If not for the abuse of the region by means of the Zionist entity, there would never have been any problem. The Middle East and the region would have progressed, and the Arab individual would have been like any other person in the world, enjoying a good life, or at least enjoying the right to live in peace.
………………………
Of course, this is such obvious bullsh*t.
Firstly, of course, violent Jihad preceeds the creation of the modern Israeli state by over 1300 years. What was all that Jihad about then?
Then–as noted–Al Azhar itself constantly preaches Jihad. And why not? Nothing is so Islamic.
Then, far from being a terrorist and genocidal state, it is a civilized democracy that is just defending against Jihad violence and attempts to destroy her. If Muslims stopped trying to wipe her off the map, the violence in the region would end–except for Muslim violence against other Muslims, of course.
Moreover, even supposing Israel *was* what this dishonest Grand Imam has to say, why would this stop the Muslim world from progressing? After all, there are some ugly states in the world like North Korea and Iran, but that has not stopped the free West from progressing.
In fact, despite being threatened with destruction and under constant Jihad terror attack, this hasn’t stopped *Israel* from progressing. She is a vibrant, technologically and artistically innovative nation, despite all the Muslim violence against her.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Raymond Ibrahim, the sheikh never used the term “Islamic terrorism “taught by Mr Spencer. He said terrorists among muslims emerged as result of frustration for fascist evil zionists. But all muslims, whether terrorists or not, shall be against fascist evil zionist state of Israel. The terrorist groups are fighting proxy war for fascist evil zionists
MFritz says
And more lies. And still no word on Nigeria? Because you are NOT from Nigeria. DON’T FEED THE CRIMINAL!
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Raymond Ibrahim, the sheikh never used the term “Islamic terrorism “taught by Mr Spencer.
………………………
What rot. Muhammed himself said, “I have been made victorious with terror”. Is Ibrahim itace muhammed pretending that piracy, kidnapping, rape, slavery, and mass slaughter are not terrorism? Muslims have been waging such terror for over 1300 years before the existence of modern Israel.
More:
He said terrorists among muslims emerged as result of frustration for fascist evil zionists. But all muslims, whether terrorists or not, shall be against fascist evil zionist state of Israel. The terrorist groups are fighting proxy war for fascist evil zionists
………………………
Of course, this makes no sense. First he says that Jihad terrorists are only reacting to the existence of Israel–which is obviously false–then he says that Jihad terrorists are not Islamic, but were crated by Israel.
Ibrahim itace muhammed, like most pious Muslims, can’t even keep his own bullsh*t straight.
But he has made this last absurd claim before–that groups like ISIS, Al Shebaab, Boko Haram, Al Qaida, and the Taliban are actually all Jews and Americans. Never mind that these groups could not be more Islamic, and that Ibrahim itace muhammed has never been able to point to a single thing he disagrees with them on doctrinally.
Ray Jarman says
This paragraph alone proves my point that islam by its own dictum is sedition: “No, this is yet another case of Muslim apologists trying to kill two birds with one stone: portraying — and thus exonerating — Islamic terrorism as inevitable, grievance-based reactions to Israel, which deserves all blame. In reality, the ultimate “grievance” Muslims have against all non-Muslims is just that — that they are non-Muslim, inferior infidels that must be subjugated one way or the other.” Infidels must be subjugated can mean only one thing; that is to be ruled and that end can only be accomplished by destroying the existing government whether by stealth or open hostilities which is happening now in the “No Go Zones” of Europe. Some cities in India are virtually “City States” governed by sharia.
In the United States a person applying for a security clearance must fill out a Standard Form 86 in which there are questions pertaining to loyalty to the nation such as belonging to any organization such as the Communist Party or any other that espouses an over through of the Constitution. One must answer these questions and if any are of the affirmative, a clearance will never be granted and certainly no muslim can answer negatively since the unholy book itself states it opposition to any government not of the cult. Alger Hiss went to jail for lying about his connections to the Communist Party. While it was not against the law to be a Communist, it was against the law to act subversively against the nation and similarly by preaching and acting as directed by the unholy book, hadith and sharia, one is seditiously attempting to over through the national government.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Ray Jarman ,it is beyond dispute that prophet Isa never taught Godman and begotten son of God ,it is réincarnation of paganism of mithraism of old inspired by the Satan (holy spirit) the cursed one.
servant says
Sadly Moe, you are not a serious man. You are simply burping up the old, tired foolishness, that 100% of all scholars have long ago easily swatted away like a pesky fly, from moronic muslim’s just flinging dung around. In fact, u don’t hear Moe dung pushers even attempting this 3rd grade level, ignorant codswallop anymore as it ruin’s your credibility. In fact, I am certain you have not even read the entire Gospel or u wouldn’t make such a ignorant comment. The Angel Gabriel declared Jesus, God born in flesh, Jesus himself over and over is clear He is God, Elizabeth declared him God, Mary declared Him God, Our Father in Heaven 3 times declares Him My only begotten Son who has dominion over all things, Satan knew He was God when trying to tempt Jesus and Jesus said, “You shall not tempt the Lord, your God, be gone Satan,” and Satan immediately did what he was commanded. Even the Demons knew he was God and said so and were petrified because they were afraid He was there for the final Judgment and was about to cast them into hell for all eternity. Read the entire Gospel once, then go read Genesis, Isiah and Psalms, and then go back and re-read the Gospel carefully…..if you are not a Christain after that, then you really don’t care or don’t believe in the salvation of your immortal soul.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
servant, Godman and begotten son of God are pagan doctrines from mithraism imported 325 after Jésus departure. you Will regret believing in this rubbish
gravenimage says
When Ibrahim itace muhammed is not ranting about Christianity being “mithraist”, he is babbling about Jews worshipping a mother goddess.
Profound ignorance…
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed is here saying that it is “beyond dispute” that the Muslim “Jesus” murders Christians.
Ray Jarman says
Graven, Thanks. I don’t think that a course on the life of Christ would change our friend’s opinion even a little. He never reads the whole of what is being written and I don’t think he wants to learn. Some of his statements are so far over the top that I often can’t help but to laugh. I would suggest that he read “The Divine Comedy” in order for him to understand Christians version of hell and paradise but I don’t think he is intelligent enough to read verse.
Pong says
I am reading koran in poetic translation of exceptional quality. Interestingly, the same meaning doesn’t sound as bad as the usual translation, though the meaning is well preserved.
The jew hatred by moslems has little importance. Israel is not only going to stay, but is getting stronger. Israel is already selling energy to her neighbors and soon will sell it to Europe. Israel’s GDP will go through the roof.
Non-moslem anti-semitism is far more important. It is one of the main reasons for islamisation of Europe. Hopefully, islamic countries of Europe will show islam’s ugly face, so americans will see what islam does to non-moslems.
Ray Jarman says
An excellent input.
Pong says
Al Azhal “university”, isn’t it the place wher obama and some othere democrats have friends!?
Over 70% of american jews vote democrats. For many people it is a mistery. The jews have a reputation for being clever and yet, they act against their own interests. Mistery? Not really. The jews are clever people, but not all of them. Not even a majority. Also a stupid jew is in a class of his own. Not any ethnic group has achieved such perfection of stupidity as the jews have. If a jew is stupid, his stupidity is such that your everage village idiot looks like a genius next to him.
R Russell says
Oh dear. I suppose some of the gullible will believe him. I wonder how he explains the hundreds of millions slaughtered in Islamic attacks since the inception of Islam?
Krishna says
Blaming the Jews for middle east turmoil is part of muslim victim mentality
MFritz says
Eliminate islam, eliminate islamic terrorism.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
mFritz, filthy pagan mithraist christianity Will end the very moment prophet Isa descends. All christians Will then realise that they have been worshiping the Satan (holy spirit) who misled them to take jesus as Godman and begotten son of God. if you are unlucky to be dead before you are doomed in hottest lake of hellfire burning together with holy spirit.
gravenimage says
More threats that “Jesus”–“Isa”–is here to slaughter Christians. *Ugh*.
GregF says
A good article that truly explains the reason for islamic conflict in the world today.
John McMenamin says
islam is just a SATANIC Totalitarian Ideology. SATAN is muhammad.
terry says
Islamic scripture is clearly terrorism on it’s face.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Terry, thé mithraist Bible on its is a book of genocide,Mass destruction, cruel slavery and racism
gravenimage says
Really? And yet, slavery has been abolished in the Christian world–and the driving force behind this was devout Christians.
Yet no only is slavery rife in the Muslim world, but Ibrahim itace muhammed *himself* has said that Muslims can enslave Infidels and use them as slaves and sex slaves.
The rest of his claims are, of course, just as bogus.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
mFritz, filthy pagan mithraist christianity Will end the very moment prophet Isa descends. All christians Will then realise that they have been worshiping the Satan (holy spirit) who misled them to take jesus as Godman and begotten son of God. if you are unlucky to be dead before you are doomed in hottest lake of hellfire burning together with holy spirit.
Jack Diamond says
All of which would be better than being you.
Politicianophobia says
The thighing master, I bra him returns.
Yitz says
If ibraham had a knife in his hand which jw contributer would he stab? All of us infidels!
gravenimage says
Yitz, Ibrahim itace muhammed has already said that he looks forward to taking part in the genocide of the Jews.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
satan (holy spirit) prophet Isa needs not fight mithraist christians. He Will just tell them that he did not tell them to take him as Godman and begotten son of God and they Will submit. If you are unlucky to be dead before he comes, you Will regret it.
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