Australian authorities thought so. It didn’t work out. My latest in PJ Media:
If young Muslims in Western countries who get involved in juvenile crimes stop what they’re doing and become observant in Islam, authorities should breathe a sigh of relief, no? That’s what Australian authorities encouraged recently.
Things didn’t work out quite the way they had hoped.
A young Muslim named Raban Alou, according to the Daily Mail Australia, “had been in trouble with the law as a teenager, for drug use, robbery and armed robbery.” But then he turned to his religion, and Australian officials were pleased: “[A] January 2015 report by the Department of Juvenile Justice” actually “praised Alou for ‘getting more involved in his religion, stopping his cannabis use and disassociating himself from his negative peer group.’”
However, Raban Alou wasn’t really reforming. He was just channeling his criminality in a different direction — one that the Department of Juvenile Justice had not anticipated.
In October 2015, less than a year after that department had happily noted that he had become a more observant Muslim, Raban Alou “helped 15-year-old Farhad Jabar shoot police accountant Mr. Cheng outside the New South Wales Police Headquarters in Parramatta.”
This wasn’t just some random shooting. Alou supported the Islamic State, and frequently praised the group’s violent jihad activities in a WhatsApp group.
Regarding Australian soldiers, he wrote: “Omg. May Allah curse them all and destroy them to pieces.” He rejoiced in the Islamic State’s bloodlust: “Beheading in France, 25 dead in suicide bomb by IS in shia Kuwait mosque and 37 dead at Tunisia beach. It’s going off. Lol.” After viewing footage of the shooting of Cheng, Alou praised Jabar: “Ah brother you’re a soldier, Oh my god Allahu Akbar, that’s beautiful footage bro, that’s beautiful footage. You actually see it all happen, you see where he is last standing, that’s where he drops.”
Those officials consistently ignore the fact that jihadis are virtually all deeply observant Muslims. There has been a good deal of misinformation about this, with Islamic apologists claiming that they’re actually ignorant of Islam or non-observant, but there is little, if any, evidence to back this claim. A few years ago, some Islamic State jihadis ordered some basic books on Islam from Amazon — that is just about the sole evidence adduced to show that jihadis are not knowledgeable and devout Muslims. On the other side is a mountain of evidence — the Islamic State mandated hours of Qur’an study every day, and countless jihadis became more observant in Islam before they turned to jihad violence.
The Islamic State (ISIS) that Raban Alou supported provides numerous examples. In its heyday (and to the present day, whenever it issues new threats to non-Muslims), it quoted the Qur’an frequently: See its threats to blow up the White House and conquer Rome and Spain; its explanation of its priorities in nations it is targeting for jihad; its preaching to Christians after collecting the jizya (a Qur’an-based tax, cf. Qur’an 9:29); its justification for the execution of accused spies; and its variousvideos.
Also, the Islamic State awarded $10,000 prizes and sex slaves in Qur’an memorization contests. One of its underground lairs was found littered with weapons and copies of the Qur’an. Children in the Islamic State studied the Qur’an and received weapons training.
One Malaysian Muslim said that the Qur’an led him to join the Islamic State. A Muslim woman in the U.S. promoted the Islamic State by quoting the Qur’an. An Islamic State propagandist’s parents said of him: “Our son is a devout Muslim. He had learnt the Quran by heart.” A Muslim politician from Jordan said that the Islamic State’s “doctrine stems from the Qur’an and Sunnah.”
Despite all this evidence, the willful ignorance among non-Muslim authorities is nearly universal….
Read the rest here.
Emilie Green says
Yes, it’s been my experience that encouraging the relative, who has trouble with the bottle, to consume even more bottles always have a favorable outcome. Win-win all around.
CRUSADER says
Is the guy in the photo with one finger up trying to get us to pull his finger?
And if we pull his finger, will he blow up?
Or is he saying he likes to put his finger into another Muslim’s bum when bending over to pray at the local mosque?
Fun either way, supposedly!
CRUSADER says
Joy EVERLASTing.
John (Jean) Pierre says
He just measured his manhood and is proudly showing that it’s the size of his index finger! His wives assure him that he’s massively well endowed with a full finger…..a whole finger-full. When he pulls his finger there’s no bang just a little fizzle.
Peter says
Yes Mr C.
Not a great look for the franchise
b.a. freeman says
“Despite all this evidence, the willful ignorance among non-Muslim authorities is nearly universal….”
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i would say that the ignorance may be nearly universal, but i doubt that it’s willful; rather, it’s just people who were trained to memorize leftist “facts” in school rather than being taught critical thinking (which is harder than memorization, BTW) looking to media and those higher up the food chain to see what the correct thing to think is. they don’t understand islam, and won’t look, because they think that they don’t have to do so. after all, if islam were really dangerous, somebody would have already said so … right?
of course, the corollary is that there *are* some people who understand, and are saying nothing about it. these are the people who spread the “islamophobia” lie, who slander and libel those who try to warn others, who encourage others to riot in the streets (in masks, of course) to shut down discussion, and who are willing to endanger the lives of those with whom they disagree (pamela geller and her kids come to mind, not to mention geert wilders, ayaan hirsi ali, robert spencer, et al.). these are the thought leaders of the hard left, the “smart people in the room,” the ones to whom everybody else (who is leftist) looks to know what to think and say. the end result is that the poor fools in government who should know better, but were never taught to think independently, repeat the same stupid mantra, never thinking once to check for themselves. the people in government are, for the most part, just like the rest of us, except that they hold our lives in their hands, and they’re letting those lives slip through and be lost to jihadis.
the nazis are winning in europe, but they’re only a few years behind here in the u.s. who needs a stinking constitution when we have smart people to tell us what to think and do? sieg heil!
gravenimage says
Oh, I think it’s willful, b.a. freeman–if sometimes unconscious. If it were just garden-variety ignorance, it would be a lot easier to cure.
I have tried to talk to friends, loved ones, and neighbors, and a lot of them *don’t want to know* about Islam. One otherwise intelligent woman literally put her fingers in her ears when hearing about Muslim savagery.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, Peter and Stella.
David Grisez says
Wow, you can trade in your juvenile crimes for Islamic Jihad, which includes, theft, murder, lying, taking sex slaves and raping infidel women. This is a worse trade off. It is too bad that people are ignorant about Islam and do not know that it can make a person even worse.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, David.
Jack Diamond says
It’s why Muhammad’s cult went from being unsuccessful to successful: divine sanction for violence, conquest, raids (Muhammad preferred raids on unarmed, unsuspecting people to actual battles), rape, plunder (stolen loot), assassination for one’s critics and genocide for one’s enemies (beginning with the Jews of Arabia). Extreme violence and no toleration for dissent, worked then works now.
“Oh but that can’t be Islam. All my nice Muslim friends tell me it’s not so….I mean, if that were true then all Muslims would be scary monsters, when I can see clearly they are just like us….”
“How about the more than a billion people who aren’t fanatical, who don’t punish women, who just want to go to school, eat some sandwiches and pray five times a day without doing any of the things that you’re saying?”–Ben Affleck, speaking on behalf willfully ignorant non-Muslims everywhere.
CRUSADER says
Islam and gangsterism with crime fit hand in glove.
Perfect for the wayward teen!!!
gravenimage says
True, CRUSADER–this is why so many convert to Islam in prison. And the most fertile source for this is *violent* felons–it is not low-level drug dealers or white-collar criminals like embezzlers or those involved in stock market fraud who are apt to become Muslims.
CRUSADER says
Although they could help “the cause” as well:
Drug Dealers supply the dope that DHIMMIs and HARBIs get strung out on…
meanwhile sapping their funds and plying it back into the gangster networks.
Embezzlers raise money and lauder it and supply copious amounts to JIHAD networks.
Stock Market Fraud undermines the financial system….bringing more mayhem to Dar al Harb.
gravenimage says
I take your point, CRUSADER, and I’m not saying criminals of all types might not be useful to the Jihad.
I’ve just noticed over and over again that it tends to be the ugliest, most violent criminals who are drawn to Islam–gang bangers, rapists, and murderers. I don’t think this is a coincidence.
StellaSaidSo says
Most of the drug dealers in prison are already Muslims. The drug trade is now dominated by Muslims, at all levels.
dumbledoresarmy says
Practically as soon as a large enough number of mohammedans landed in Oz, they were in the illegal drugs trade up to their eyebrows. We had to create the ‘Middle Eastern Organised Crime Squad” to try to keep a lid on it. Let’s just say that the majority of folks they manage to arrest are not Jews, or Christians, or atheists, or Zoroastrians.. they all seem to have names like Mohammed, or Ahmed, and their womenfolk turn up at court in hijabs.
gravenimage says
I don’t think this is the case in the United States, Stella–not yet, anyway.
That of course could change if more Muslims are allowed to keep flooding into the US.
StellaSaidSo says
It is interesting that the average Muslim IQ correlates with the average criminal IQ.
John (Jean) Pierre says
Great point StellaSaidSo, The low iQ of muslims, often ARABS especially, is also associated with hair-trigger violence, destructive rioting and mindless mob violence. I know I know there are some very intelligent Arabs but they have on average a much lower IQ than the Westeners with whom they seek to live. They are also aesthetically challenged, just look at the specimen in question! and it is my strong suspicion that this makes them resentful as they constantly see the more refined beautiful features of the Western people they are told they are superior to and somewhere deep inside they ask themselves ‘Oh Fark! Why was I born an ugly dumb Fakkah?’
gravenimage says
True, Stella.
mortimer says
ISLAM TEACHES HATRED AND APARTHEID and DOES NOT HELP YOUTH… to the contrary!
‘AL BARAA’ = Islamic Apartheid, Shunning … is the HATRED of Kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’…Al Bughoud or Al Mu’adaat (hatred) is the opposite of Al Muwalaat (love of Muslims), it is:
– To Hate
– To keep distance from
– To be enemy to
– To desert
– To decline to help
– To disrespect
– To put down
– Not to ally with
– Not to support
Allah ordered Muslims to have Baraa (to be cleansed) from the kufaar and from kufr and shirk.
-“The doctrine of al Walaa wal Baraa is the REAL IMAGE for the actual practice of this faith.” – source “Al Walaa wal Baraa According to the Aqeedah of the Salaf”, by Sheikh Muhammad Saeed al Qatani, authoritative Saudi Sharia lawyer and imam at the Abu Bakr and Al Furqan Mosques in Mecca.
– from ibn Taymiyya, “Book of Emaan”: “… true believers show ANIMOSITY and HATRED towards disbelievers and NEVER support them.”
gravenimage says
Robert Spencer in PJ Media: Is Islam the Solution for Wayward Youth?
…………………………
Yeah–so long as you want drug users and petty theives to start murdering Infidels in the Jihad.
How can these willful naifs really believe that becomimg more religious as a Muslim is the same thing as for a Christian, and will lead to juvenile delinquints trying to clean up their acts?
mortimer says
Many Muslim criminals see no contradiction between CRIME and ISLAM, because MOHAMMED WAS A HIGHWAYMAN and a CRIMINAL who robbed, murdered, raped and enslaved women and committed many other crimes … IN THE NAME OF ALLAH.
Muslim criminals DEDICATE THEIR CRIME CAREER TO ALLAH and enjoy HURTING THE DIRTY KUFAAR ‘for the sake of Allah’.
gravenimage says
True–the “perfect man” of Islam was a theif, a kidnapper, a rapist, a pedophile, and a mass-murderer–all things illegal in the civilized West.
CRUSADER says
VALUES SYSTEM diametrically opposed: EAST is EAST and WEST is WEST….
and NEVER should the twain meet….
Keep the Occident Occident!
gravenimage says
thief
DHazard says
Islam is almost tailor made for troubled people, but especially troubled youth.
It changes their focus from destroying themselves and the people around them to just destroying anybody who isn’t a member of the Islamic cabal, and blaming those “others” for all the problems of Muslims. So they stop taking drugs and start praying. Some of them then start planning. “I can finally be a hero” – that’s what the Quran and other books tell them. All I have to do is kill allot of innocent people. Then they see in the media the widespread fear, anger and despair that a successful terrorist attack can cause. And they also see the massive approval from allot of the Muslim world, and the corresponding tepid response from the Western media and politicians. Everything falls into place and they pick a time and date for their glorious martyrdom. Maybe the breaking point is when they are driving and see a bunch of easy targets.
Islamic rules allow sociopaths to operate with a huge support group and special rewards from God. All your sins will be forgiven, which appeals to the few who still have feelings other than anger and disgust.
So to a troubled youth, who is either Muslim by birth or a convert, which will fill the painful hole in his pride – Islam or counseling?
gravenimage says
Grimly spot on.
LeftisruiningCanada says
+1
When being a ‘hero’ is made as easy as gunning down a few unarmed citizens who don’t know you’re coming, i can see another reason that islam may appeal to some.
CRUSADER says
Reason # 1001 to DEFEAT it !
WPM says
He was a petty criminal ,when he convert to Islam he moved into the gangster league criminal .Islam the idiot magnet for losers, to join the biggest criminal gang to get your lifestyle of depravity endorse by other sanctimonious morons. Followers of biggest best known slave trader, child molester , beater of woman , serial rapist murder of unarmed people , lying , thieving ,con man Mohammed .The man all these losers want to be like ,in failing they die they get into Islam whore heaven as promised by Mohammad.
John (Jean) Pierre says
Perfect explanation WPM.
Cheer Bear Girl says
Islam is far from a solution. Too many new converts to Islam engage in terrorism.
tim gallagher says
After all this time, after all these Muslim terrorist attacks, rapes, etc, this type of ignorance about the evil nature of Islam by authorities is inexcusable. They are so dumb. They endanger us all through their ignorance. They still seem to think that either Islam is a noble religion with high ideals, like Christianity is, or that all religions are pretty much the same and will have a good influence on people. There is just no excuse for such dangerous idiocy on the part of our authorities, political leaders and bureaucrats and media types. It’s the ignorance that people like Robert Spencer constantly spend their time fighting against. These types of authorities need to be woken up from their slumber about what an evil force Islam is. Everybody needs to be woken up or we’ve had it. That’s why Robert Spencer’s work is incredibly important. Unfortunately, I doubt whether some of these authorities can ever be woken up.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Is Islam the Solution for Wayward Youth?”
If one’s idea of finding the straight and narrow is begin plotting to kill the neighbors, then yes, it is.
sidney penny says
“[A] January 2015 report by the Department of Juvenile Justice” actually “praised Alou for ‘getting more involved in his religion, stopping his cannabis use and disassociating himself from his negative peer group.’”
Department of Juvenile Justice did not find out how Alou was getting more involved in his religion, what was he learning, who from and where was this happening.If in a mosque which one and who was the Imam?
Brigitte from Germany says
http://www.citizengo.org/en-ca/node/157636?m=5&tcid=46190842
Sorry, this is another theme.
But so important. I think for you too.
Many greetings from Germany to all the readers here.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Is there any significance in a left handed pointy sausage finger of death, rather then the usual right handed version?
John (Jean) Pierre says
Musselmen have a dirty bum wiping hand that they don’t eat with or do the silly-finger with…..its usually their left hand, this cretin probably has trouble telling his right from left……he certainly had trouble telling right from wrong!
LeftisruiningCanada says
maybe he was trying to dry it off then..you know, get rid of the smell?
simpleton1 says
In Christchurch New Zealand.
This case had a lot of name suppression, and the whole case barely touches on the charges, more that some people were concerned.
This article has 2 links to newspapers and a tv report, that gloss things over unlike this article which raises some good questions, that no local journalist raises.
Nursing vipers and keeping vipers warm in your home.
Felix Quigley says
This comment above is near perfect…
“DHazard says
Mar 8, 2018 at 5:19 pm
Islam is almost tailor made for troubled people, but especially troubled youth.
It changes their focus from destroying themselves and the people around them to just destroying anybody who isn’t a member of the Islamic cabal, and blaming those “others” for all the problems of Muslims. So they stop taking drugs and start praying. Some of them then start planning. “I can finally be a hero” – that’s what the Quran and other books tell them. All I have to do is kill allot of innocent people. Then they see in the media the widespread fear, anger and despair that a successful terrorist attack can cause. And they also see the massive approval from allot of the Muslim world, and the corresponding tepid response from the Western media and politicians. Everything falls into place and they pick a time and date for their glorious martyrdom. Maybe the breaking point is when they are driving and see a bunch of easy targets.
Islamic rules allow sociopaths to operate with a huge support group and special rewards from God. All your sins will be forgiven, which appeals to the few who still have feelings other than anger and disgust.
So to a troubled youth, who is either Muslim by birth or a convert, which will fill the painful hole in his pride – Islam or counselling?”
There was another very real movement in the 1930s in Germany. The fevered mind of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis also created a youth movement. It is certain that youth are a very vulnerable section in all society at all time.
There is also a big problem with what is being taught in school. History in any Gestalt sense is not taught at all. Children emerge from school with no real knowledge.
But this still does not explain that a very large section of the British population did not accept the result of the parliamentary agreed referendum (Brexit) and it does not explain the opposition to the election result in Nov 2016 and the total sheer hatred for President Trump.
In a way not totally clear all of today’s issues are closely interlinked.
Until this key is found things go down.
Felix Quigley says
I wrote this above…
“There is also a big problem with what is being taught in school. History in any Gestalt sense is not taught at all. Children emerge from school with no real knowledge.”
But the result of this needs to be spelled out. it will mean that all children bar none do not know who they are, who and what they are personally or politically/nationally. Not knowing this they are lost.
Western youth thereby become useless in every respect. Go into any bar and watch how they awaken only with a goal by a Messi! But Muslim youth linking to this old and dangerous ideology of Islam, long discredited, discredited by any scientific value, become dangerous in the extreme, here we think often of the west, but most dangerous in the areas of the world such as Northern Nigeria.
If I was to take a solution from this then I would look very closely at everything taught in schools.
It is the overall vacuity of the subject matter that is the key, leading later into the empty specialization of the University.
This then creates the ground for our new lying Media.
The effort to stop the history of Islam being told is not just the ignorance of the primary school teacher…it is the most sinister thing that has ever happened since Hitler taking power of the state in 1939.
This is highly conscious…Mrs May placing a block on Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller into the UK, Geert Wilders living out of barracks for 10 years (see video on RT https://youtu.be/Q5f5pLsKAzw) and active measures against anybody who speaks to Islam.
Serious times!
shoehorn says
At least he stopped smoking cannabis.
What?
gravenimage says
Yes–absurd.