The title of Beinart’s article is “John Bolton and the Normalization of Fringe Conservatism.” Who decided that Geller, Gaffney and I were “fringe”? Why, Beinart and other Leftist journalists, of course. And by dint of constant repetition, they hope to put that view over on the American people. Saul Alinsky’s 13th Rule for Radicals is “‘Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.‘ Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.” The Left consistently does this; in the case of counter-jihadis (including me), it presents our statements, however correct and demonstrable, as egregious and individual to us, and something no decent person would agree with — that’s freezing and personalizing the target. Then Leftists move to “cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy,” demanding that others on the Right disavow and condemn, or at very least shun, the target. And establishment conservatives have always willingly played along, allowing their associations and allies to be dictated by their enemies.
Thus it is entirely to be expected that the Left would be trying to destroy John Bolton by association with Pamela Geller and me. We have already been frozen, personalized, polarized, and isolated; now they can use their successful work with us in order to hit Bolton. Trump, however, appears to be made of stronger stuff than the establishment Right, and so it’s unlikely to work, but that’s not for want of trying.
Leftist hit man Peter Beinart’s article here is a quintessential example of this. In a recent CNN panel, Beinart characterizes Pamela Geller as “a woman who had repeatedly, endlessly defamed Islam itself, saying it itself is the problem.” With 32,000 jihad attacks around the world since 9/11, and numerous jihad plots in the U.S., and criminals quoting the Qur’an to justify their criminality, there is ample reason to be concerned about Islam. But in the Left’s bizarro world, even to suggest such a thing is to make one a monster, far outside the realms of acceptable discourse. That’s Beinart’s core assumption.
“John Bolton and the Normalization of Fringe Conservatism,” by Peter Beinart, The Atlantic, March 24, 2018:
In 2016, Bolton played a crucial role in Frank Gaffney’s rehabilitation inside the conservative movement. For close to two decades, Gaffney has been Washington’s most dogged peddler of anti-Muslim conspiracy theories.
For the millionth time, if it is “anti-Muslim” to oppose jihad terror and Sharia oppression, it was “anti-German” to oppose Nazism.
He’s traveled the country testifying against the construction of mosques, arguing that since Islam is a totalitarian political ideology, not a religion, American Muslims don’t deserve the protections of the First Amendment. Bolton’s intervention on his behalf is particularly intriguing because, in his own writing and remarks, he’s largely avoided anti-Muslim bigotry. But in today’s conservative movement, anti-Muslim activists are a legitimate constituency group, like people who support gun rights or oppose abortion. And Bolton has proved, in this case and others, all too willing to empower them.
Gaffney believes in the existence of a vast, secret network, run by the Muslim Brotherhood, to infiltrate the United States government and replace it with Sharia law….
Gaffney didn’t make this up: a captured internal Muslim Brotherhood document says that the Muslim Brothers “must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.” — “An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America,” by Mohamed Akram, May 19, 1991. All the major Muslim organizations in the U.S. — CAIR, ISNA, MAS, MSA, IIIT, and more — are listed in this document as partner organizations in this effort.
What Bolton has done, again and again, is to elevate the anti-Muslim bigotry of others. In 2010, he wrote the forward to Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer’s book, The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration’s War on America. Bolton’s forward begins with the words, “Barack Obama is our first post-American president.” But he leaves the meaning of those words vague. It is Geller and Spencer who declare that “Barack Hussein Obama” is pursuing the “implementation of a soft sharia: the quiet and piecemeal implementation of Islamic laws that subjugate non-Muslims.”
This is a common tactic of Leftist “journalists”: they present something that is demonstrably true as if it were self-evidently false, as well as a terrible thing to say, without bothering to offer any refutation. In reality, the Obama administration worked hard to secure special privileges and accommodations for Muslims in workplaces and schools. The Obama Justice Department sued a New Jersey township for rejecting a mosque. It forced a school district to pay $75,000 to a Muslim teacher who was fired after demanding time off with pay to make the hajj. It went to court to challenge state anti-Sharia laws. Obama declared at the UN that “the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam,” which is tantamount to saying that Sharia blasphemy laws must be implemented in the future. There are many, many more examples of this, but no examples at all of the Obama Justice Department working to secure special privileges and accommodation for Jews, Christians, Hindus or Buddhists, or declaring that the future must not belong to those who criticize their revered figures.
In 2010 and 2011, Bolton spoke at rallies against the “Ground Zero” mosque sponsored by Geller and Spencer’s organization, Stop Islamization of America. But Bolton has not echoed Geller’s wilder and uglier theories: among them that Obama is Malcolm X’s love child or that Muslims practice bestiality.
These are false claims propagated by Leftists determined to destroy Geller’s reputation. She actually never claimed either one. Rebuttal explanations have been available here on the Geller Report for years, but Peter Beinart and others like him are not really interested in a fair and honest discussion; they just want to defame and destroy their targets. This is a common tactic: as Ayaan Hirsi Ali said when a smear campaign led to her honorary degree from Brandeis being rescinded: “My critics have long specialized in selective quotation — lines from interviews taken out of context — designed to misrepresent me and my work.”
He’s never said, as Spencer has, that “there is no distinction in the American Muslim community between peaceful Muslims and jihadists.”…
Same thing again. I’ve had an explanation of this statement here for years, but it doesn’t matter. The point of Beinart’s article and others like it is to destroy, not to discuss. In any case, my point is demonstrably true: again and again we have seen that jihadis operate freely in U.S. mosques, and aren’t put out. Garland jihadis Ibrahim Simpson and Nadir Soofi were members in good standing of the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix. The Boston Marathon jihadis Tamerlan and Dzhokar Tsarnaev were members of the Islamic Society of Boston, as were many other jihadis. Jihadi cop-shooter Edward Archer was an active member of a mosque in Philadelphia. And so on.
Once upon a time, the American right made room for conservative Muslims. Now it makes room for people who want to deny them equal rights.
When did we ever say anything to deny Muslims equal rights? Never, of course, and nor does Beinart offer any evidence to the contrary in this article. But again, truth or accuracy is of no interest to him. Destroy foes of jihad terror is the game, and any weapon will do.
Lebel says
“Barack Hussein Obama” is pursuing the “implementation of a soft sharia: the quiet and piecemeal implementation of Islamic laws that subjugate non-Muslims.”
Pushing for Gay and transgender rights is apparently part of Shariah now.
Obama also signed the Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2013. This I guess indicates that Shariah really does try and protect women since Obama signed this act and he purshing the implementation of Islam law.
Niemoller says
Obama also hangs with Farrakhan, and most Islamist front organizations vote the entire far left Democrat platform, while behind the scenes they promote extreme intolerance for the very same platform. Obama is a flimflam man, he’s waiting to see which side to settle on. Islamists use the likes of Obama and Peter Beinart like the Pharisees used Judas.
esther says
How did the “Pharisees” use Judas? —-It is clear that you
never read the New Testament. ???niemoller? he rots in
hell too,
J D S says
@ Esther and Niemoller. After Satan entered the heart of Judas, the Chief Priest used him. Luke 22: 3-4
Chand says
Obama pushed for very progressive agendas to save the planet. Guess Sharia is Earth friendly….
Then that dhimmi Nobel committee gave him that Peace prize.
Lebel says
He also killed Ben Laden which is line with the Shariah.
CogitoErgoSum says
Aren’t only Muslims allowed to execute other Muslims under Sharia?
Chand says
And his surge of sending more American troops into Afghanistan to counter the Taliban…
Andy says
The March For Our Lives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JollnDWbcjM
Niemoller says
Obama is an intelligent and affable guy, but he is cognitively incoherent on Islam and a host of other ideological issues, like so many in his liberal camp who suddenly find themselves in political league with medieval Islamic beheaders and misogynists.
Obama would have to do a David Horowitz “Radical Son” move to break free from his leftist indoctrination camp if he ever wants to rejoin the world of rational thinkers.
CogitoErgoSum says
I have little doubt that the Afghan military has members of the Taliban within it and after those infiltrators have been trained by the U.S. military they pass their knowledge on to the Taliban. So in effect, the U.S. in Afghanistan was and is helping train its enemy. Think Obama was not aware of this? I hope Trump is smarter.
Wellington says
Obama is a very confused and terrible excuse of a human being, Lebel. I wouldn’t read too much into whatever he says or does because, ultimately, this glorified nothing, who actually thinks “Austrian” is a language (you can Google this one), who misunderstands capitalism so much that he actually said health care companies would provide free birth control medication, who was played as a fool by Putin, the Chinese and many others, including the Iranian theocratic regime with which Obama made the single worst deal EVER with a foreign power, providing the number one sponsor of state terrorism throughout the world with 160 billion dollars and a pathway to nuclear weaponry (at best delayed by this idiotic deal if even this), is not a good reference point for proving the wisdom or truth of anything.
But then, how fitting, Lebel, since you don’t traffic in truth or wisdom at all. Oh yeah, so fitting.
As for Obama killing bin Laden, again you miss the big picture. But for the waterboarding of KSM who spilled his guts out because of this, and which “technique” was done away with by Obama, we would have known nothing about bin Laden’s whereabouts. Bush 43 authorized the waterboarding (and other matters like the Patriot Act, something else Obama opposed when Senator) which led to the killing of that monster, bin Laden.
I would give very little credit to Obama here because even a stopped clock is right twice a day. But you won’t get this either. Nah.
Terry Gain says
Obama did not kill bin Laden. He couldn’t bear to do it and went golfing. His SecDef, Panetta, gave the order and they had to drag Obama back to the White House to watch the raid. There is a very revealing photo of Obama sitting in the corner like a scared little boy as the raid was taking place.
Joe says
Obama says in his book that he will always stand with Islam which is direct contradiction to his office of the POTUS. You are saying that Obama is a liar.
Gea says
The Noble committee also gae Peace Prize to Muslim Egyptian terrorist, Yassir Arafat and to phony Al Gore and propagancist for Islam, young women from Pakistan…who clearly never read Koran, Hadith and Sira- life of moahmed to understand that Taliban just follows the teachings of Mohamed… Sweden is fast becoming a failed country where nobody is safe from jihadits who were invietd in by Swedish politicians…
revereridesagain says
Shari’a to the Left is whatever is convenient for it to be shoehorned into the Left’s cultural Marxist, postmodern, intersectional, transgendered basket of irrationalities and used to the mutual advantage of the Left and its allies in Islam. If you disagree with that application, there is always name-calling as an effective last resort.
Mark Swan says
Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam and Mohammed
“The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”
“The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”
“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”
“As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
“Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
“Islam has always been part of America”
“we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”
“These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
“America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
“I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”
“Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”
“So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
“In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”
“Throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
“Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”
“The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”
“I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”
“We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”
“That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
“I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/40-mind-blowing-quotes-from-barack-hussein-obama-farrell-1500-
Terry Gain says
Thank you Mark for posting this litany off lies from the crypto Muslim. Obama perfected the practice of Taqiyya. All he had to do to fool the fools was buy a dog and grab a beer.
Bonnie Loranger says
Obam a practicing taqia
KJW says
Mark Swan, wow, what a collection of Obama quotes are blatant lies. I voted for him on 2008, but I wish I could take that back. This matches Bat Ye’or’s translation of the 2002 French document titled “The Euro-Arab Dialogue and the Birth of Arabia” which is on Google. Everything we are seeing in Europe and, to a lesser, but significant degree, in the US entails this making the Islamic world look good and white-washing their history per the Saudi and OIC’s pushing in exchange for economic reasons/oil that began to accelerate in the 1970s by the European Commission and henceforth, the EU and UN. She discusses this in her forward in her book “Europe, Globalization, and the Coming of a Universal Caliphate.” Obama, in line with the EU, is a tool, whether he truly believes in it or not. Any student of history would know these are lies.
Really, Islam promoting human rights and tolerance? Saudis who won’t let non-Muslims become citizens, oppress women in numerous ways, treat Christians and any religion as dhimmis not allowed to build a church, expulsion last year of two Lebanese carrying Bibles while entering the country. It’s disgusting to read these.
I learned in elementary school that Chinese immigrants helped to build the transcontinental railroad. Innovators of sky scrapers?Lol. If you look at all the skyscrapers in New York City they’re are European immigrant workers. Muslims just don’t figure in American history to any notable degree. James Madison clearly criticized Islam. Obama told Muslims at the Maryland mosque that, “Even President Jefferson had a Qur’an.” Yeah, to see why the Barbary pirates and Arab Muslims were so aggressive, stealing and enslaving our sailors and creating havoc in the Mediterranean, massacring European villages, and so on. He tells Muslims these lies, which then we have to go and correct, and then they’ll resent our presidents, the writers of the Constitution. I have had Muslims tell me that the Constitution should be abolished or changed. This from Arab countries that *still* have slavery and imams justify it because, “Slavery has always been a part of Islam.” (Notably in Mauritania and Sudan.)
They are white-washing Arab history. Saudis have investments in school textbooks here in the US. They have already meddled with textbooks in France, England, and doing whatever to make themselves look good-a decades old plan. They are very racist, take one look at their equivalent of a parliament. Numerous videos by black, Muslim, Arabs complain about the discrimination and insults they get, including being call abd, Arabic for slave.
By Obama’s promotion of these lies, he’s actually turning his back on black Americans, which I know one black American who wrote and article about it complaining that Obama was paying attention more to Muslims. Remember, the majority of black Americans who are religious are also Christians.
Therefore, these lies that only ignorant youth might fall for, plus Muslims who have repeated these lies (one article by a Muslim mentioned the presidents having a Qur’an) causes more dissention. The Arabs have a supremacy complex, which relies on Islam and the Qur’an, though such a supremacy complex has the underlying root of an inferiority complex. For all their killing of 250 million or so people and subjecting non-Muslims to horrible dhimmitude and abuse of dhimmis, the Indians, et al.
How can Obama have any conscience as well the EU and European leaders? It’s mind boggling. All these Western leaders have accepted dhimmitude and are allowing themselves to be humiliated for money. Likewise with authors of this article, top universities such as Yale, Harvard, et al. taking millions of dollars to set up Islamic Law Centers when American law students have no need to learn Islamic, at least not yet. This all part of a game plan that will cause the destruction of Western civilization as we know it, risk untold numbers of lives, and tied into global governance by a UN type body.
Islam is the problem. Terrorists are a symptom of the disease. Saudi Arabia, et al are the primary jihadists just like Muhammad.
Mark Swan says
To me it seems President Obama is still trying to understand himself,
which is just like all humans—with the litany of “Here is how I See It”
available to us all.
Obama on faith: The exclusive interview
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thedudeabides/obama-on-faith-the-exclusive-interview/
gravenimage says
No surprise to see Muslim apologists Lebel and Chand in agreement over Obama. Now all we need is to have Ibrahim itace muhammed chime in…
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Evil trump durga durga mithra evil rape evil durga mithra zionist oppressors mithra trump evil…”
/Ibrahim tacki mohammad
gravenimage says
🙂
Mark Swan says
Good One, LeftisruiningCanada.
Lebel says
It is no surprise because he is a fellow Muslim and was implementing shariah for 8 years in America.
One of our achievements has been Gay rights and women’s rights in line with the Shariah.
It would be good however if Brother Obama would drop the pretense and:
1. Get rid of the dog
2. Stop drinking beer
3. Veil his daughters and wife
4. Stop going to church
5. Start going to the Mosque
Taqqiya is all fun and good but he has duties and no need for pretense anymore since we had 8 years to implement Shariah.
JawsV says
Dogs are so far superior to Muslims it’s not funny. Islam sucks, Muhammed sucks, the war manual Quran sucks. Keep your 2 doggies, Obama! And they’re black doggies, too! The fake “Prophet’s” favorite! Mosks should be razed as they’re Jihad Centers. Islam is a curse and a plague and should be abolished.
Put on your veil, lebel! Ha-Ha! You look swell!!! The veil suits you, Saracen!
gravenimage says
What a lot of claptrap.
JawsV says
You mean Muslim Lebel’s, graven. The Saracen’s is a load of camel poop. Like Islam.
Terry Gain says
Obama revealed himself in his speech in Cairo in June 2009 when he said “Islam was revealed” and unctuously referred to the Islamic War Manual as “The Holy Koran”. It was pukeworthy.
I know what The Holy Koran says about Gays.
gravenimage says
Fine post, Terry.
J D S says
Hey folks..let’s get off obummer, he did very little for our country
But Robert Spencer surely is doing good. This article shoes that he is very interested showing up people like this nomad Beinart for what he actually is and what his type along with the MSM, like CNN, are doing to case so much political segregation amongst Americans. I don’t know for sure,,,, if they know or want to know or know not what, or don’t know what they want to know, IF, they want to know or want us to know …what they are all about. Hmmmm? Anyway none of them are in the same league with John Bolton, so the best thing for them to do I’d just to SHUT UP and let people who know what’s best for America, to do their job.
KJW says
Lebel, I guess you don’t understand tactics and the use of liberal, useful idiots. A poll in Britain with Muslims being asked about homosexuality revealed all of them saying homosexuality is illegal. All Islamic countries have laws against gays, 10 of them having the death penalty as an option. On the fatwa site a transgender who converted to Islam and feels guilty for it was welcomed to Islam, but “you must reverse this right away” because Allah made us as we are.
Keeping the left satiated for the time being, or fooled, if you will, is a tactic, and why the Muslim Brotherhood who has infiltrated, and openly, every western country, keeps rather silent about their ardent opposition to gays. The MB has always sought to enforce the sharia as we saw in Egypt when MB Morsi was voted in and then overthrown by Sisi. An Egyptian politician note, “My daughter can go out alone at night, I don’t want to go backwards.”
What does it matter if England supports gay rights when they’re country will eventually be overwhelmed by Muslims in government positions and make it illegal and send gays back into the closet? Obama, et al. can pretend to be a champion of gay rights while helping to create the conditions that will lead to no gay rights. So funny to see Linda Sarsour in a photo with a gay guy when sharia law is explicitly against homosexuality. While homosexuals exist in Islamic countries, they’ve been killed, imprisoned, and have to be very quiet…no walking down the street holding hands or gay parades, to say the least. The president of Chechnya even called for parents to kill their gay sons. (Muslim country.)
I’m fine with gay marriage and LGBT-an uncle of mine has been with the same partner for 35 years now, so liberals are being very stupid and not understanding the totality and danger of Muslim immigration. In Sweden, Muslim migrants attacked a gay supporter, not even a gay person, but a supporter. That’s kind of an equivalent to the white people that protested for blacks, were called N-word lovers, and beaten by police right along with the black people, and 1200 or so white black supporters killed by the KKK.
Honestly, the left is so brainwashed they can’t see the forest for the trees and LISTEN to those who know Islam much better-they are ignorant. They don’t know the tactics of the late 80s document “Dawah in America: which you can Google.
Gea says
Barry Soetoro-aka Obma or whatever other alias this traitor used to cover up his trail, is a true believer in two ideollogies which are not compatible with the US Cosntitution and the Universale Declaration of Human Rights: Islam and Communism… He imbibed Islam from age 6-10 in Indonesia and Communism from his Stalinist tutor, Frank Marshall aDavis in Hawaii where he lived wkith his well off white grandparents.
Poor Barack is alse a gay who was attending bathhouses of Chicago accompanied by older whitle guys, who probably “had his back”, in more sense than one ;-)! He will look great in orange jump suit once he is tried for treason, togetherw with Clintons…and their deep state and Muslim Brotherhood supporters.
This Beinhaert fellow sounds like a foolish Ameriacn Jew who is brainwashed in neo-Marcist anti amaerian US academia…
Denny Abrahamsson says
Peter Beinart is scumbag and fascist
dsinc says
Yes, I watched that CNN clip and thought what a hateful individual he is.
CT says
I check Jihad Watch regularly. It links to actual news stories and is truthful.
CNN, on the other hand, is biased, stupid, and often fabricated garbage that makes my brain hurt. I never go to its website. I actually avoid going into restaurants and near places of business that are showing CNN
Who’s fringe now?
mortimer says
CNN’s Zucker has prostituted CNN to the TURKISH DICTATOR and OTHER GLOBALIST big spenders.
CNN journalists are JUSTLY called ‘PRESS-TITUTES’.
jihad3tracker says
THERE IS A GANG-UP EFFORT BY LEFTIST “JOURNALISTS” TO SMEAR JOHN BOLTON. HERE IS A CURRENT ITEM AT PAM GELLER’S BLOG:
https://gellerreport.com/2018/03/cnn-kaczynski-geller.html/
Please carefully read the COMPLETE back-and-forth with CNN’s Andrew Kaczynski, which will clearly demonstrate what Robert has documented numerous times here on JW:
IF THERE IS ANY PUSHBACK FROM HIM OR PAM — when leftist writers ask for remarks from them — their answers are simply not published, selectively edited, paraphrased or “summarized” to weaken impact.
It happens with such predictability that Pam and Robert are now justifiably extremely wary of any responses at all to MSM liars.
mortimer says
John Bolton’s brilliance can run circles around any of those presstitutes.
Diane Harvey says
Titus 3, 1-2, “Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good, to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and always to be gentle toward everyone.”
Proverbs 21, 23, “Those who guard their mouths and their tongues keep themselves from calamity.”
mortimer says
Peter Beinart is engaging in WISHFUL THINKING. Whatever he WANTS to be true in his fantasies, namely that Islam is a benign faith, is not FACTUAL or supported by the PRIMARY SOURCE TEXTS of Islam or supported by ISLAMIC HISTORY OF JIHAD.
But Peter Beinart would not know that because though he PREPOSTEROUSLY preens himself as an authority on Islam, I would bet about HALF A MILLION DOLLARS that he has NOT read the PRIMARY ISLAMIC SOURCE TEXTS and CANONICAL COMMENTARIES of Islam or a manual of SHARIA LAW.
In other words, Peter Beinart knows ROUGHLY as much about Islam as he does about ADVANCED NUCLEAR FUEL CYCLES!
I doubt Peter Beinart knows THE NAMES of the PRIMARY ISLAMIC SOURCES TEXTS, let alone what is CONTAINED in those HEAVY TOMES.
He is probably COMPLETELY unaware of MOST of the books that COMPRISE the Islamic CANONICAL TEXTS.
Such an expert I want to say is a FRINGE SCHOLAR.
Oy vey. Open one of the PRIMARY TEXTS, Mr. Beinhart, and spend a week or two reading it.
Islam is MORE COMPLICATED THAN YOU THINK.
David Longfellow says
CNN commentary is leftist drivel consumed by brainless clods.
Westman says
There is an upside to this. The more leftist journalists try to unseat Bolton with specific anti-Islam claims the more interested readers will become in exploring those claims through Islam’s own sources and reading Geller’s and Spencer’s books.
Peter Beinart is inadvertantly chumming The Atlantic readers into learning more.
PRCS says
One can only hope.
Terry Gain says
Westman
Very true. And the more often he attacks Robert Spencer the better known Spencer will become and the more people learn about Islam the better they will understand the the existential threat that it poses to our freedoms.
I think Robert should use the occasion to challenge Beinart to a debate. Can you imagine how much fun it would be to see Robert Spencer and David Wood debate Peter Beinart and Barack Obama.
JawsV says
I can’t stand that “anti-Muslim” BS. Islam is anti-Jew/Christian, Beinart. See: Quran. What about anti-Jew/
Christian Islam, Beinart? Oh, to mention that would be “islamophobic.” You Dhimmi!
livingengine says
This is 7 years old, and still fresh as ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57xRLJzaxMU
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
The dictatorial Left and their pseudo-intellectuals like Peter Beinart don’t get to decide who is working for the President – the President gets to do that because the electorate chose him for the role of President.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
The more I read about Bolton, the more I like him:
https://www.rt.com/news/422295-bolton-urged-israel-strike-iran/
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/03/25/john-bolton-kurds-get-ally-trump-administration/
revereridesagain says
Three people whose names I would be proud to have mine associated with being attacked by one lazy little approval-craving ignoramus who knows he can get away with blathering anything to his equally ignorant leftard audience. Does this smug little moron really suppose that no one is capable of doing a search and discovering on their own that the following is authentic?
“…a captured internal Muslim Brotherhood document says that the Muslim Brothers “must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”
Or does he just assume — correctly in too many cases — that they won’t bother lest they discover some disconcerting truths?
Eric jones says
Bolton is right to oppose Islam. But he is wrong on so many other issues. He is a war hawk. He will miss lead Trump into military conflicts that we all will regret. Attacking North Korea will lead to one million dead on the Korean peninsula. Bolton will sabotage the peace process. I believe that the USA should pursue peace in all cases and look out for our interest at the same time. This looking for enemies and permanent wars must come to an end or these wars will end us. Pursue peace with strength.
Eric
Kepha says
I am willing to give Bolton a chance–even if I think that the Afghan and Iraqi interventions were mistakes, too.
A career Foreign Service officer does not get to be US ambassador to the UN without having a bit of savvy and a good deal of learning to negotiate the intricacies of both national and international politics. Further, a career such as Bolton’s requires a certain personal flexibility.
gravenimage says
You think that continuing to wink at North Korea theatening their neighbors–and us–is “strong”? Is ignoring their enabling a nuclear Iran strong, as well?
The idea that daring to take issue with this ongoing insanity is killing a million people is just bizarre.
duh swami says
Opinion and speculation. Eric…nice try though…
PABLO says
Peter Beinart and David Frum are two self hating Jews. Enough said.
Lebel says
@Wellington I can’t reply to your comment where you posted it so Ill do it here.
Even if a broken clock is right twice a day. It is still strange for a stealth jihadist to kill Ben Laden. One would think he would never have ordered the kill in the first place. Why not use Taqqiya? he is Muslim after all.
I also dont understand how a secret Muslim is so fixated on gay rights and women’s rights. I get that he may be using extremely advanced taqqiya but the contention is that Obama was ” pursuing the “implementation of a soft sharia: the quiet and piecemeal implementation of Islamic laws that subjugate non-Muslims.” – I have been repeatedly told that Islam hates gays etc so why enact law to protect them? He had 8 years to implement soft shariah and he focused on that?
I know you will not under any circumstances admit that what Geller and Spencer wrote was complete bullshit but what is really scary is that someone who is obviously intelligent might actually believe this bullshit.
Mark Swan says
Lebel—President Obama straddles the middle of the road when it comes to religion—yet he
does know having been President of the U.S. made him a permanent target for jihadist as well
as his family—what would you have done.
Jack Diamond says
Obama wanted bin Laden captured alive and tried in a civilian court, meaning given constitutional rights. It’s said the order given the SEAL team was capture him if he surrenders, kill him if he threatens you. Mark Bowden asserted the SEAL team had no intention of taking him alive.
Obama hesitated a long time before approving the mission at all (or Panetta did it himself depending who you listen to) but how would Obama explain not going after bin Laden if his whereabouts were known?
In any case, bin Laden and al Qaeda were those who twisted and “hijacked” Islam, in the apologetics of the day. They were not true Muslims (like the Islamic State more recently). Taking out a virtual “apostate” like bin Laden was not necessarily harmful to the cause of Islam, or the “stealth jihad”, not to mention it helped assure Obama of re-election: “We got bin Laden”. So your point is no point.
Lebel says
“but how would Obama explain not going after bin Laden if his whereabouts were known?”
George Bush let Bin Laden go in 2002 (Tora Bora), Obama could just lie as he ordered by Taqqiya to lie. The President has to give the order so he could just say that he is in talks with Pakistan or another lie. There have been plenty of times when the order to hit a known terrorist was not given (see Zarqawi in 2003).
He also decimate AQ in Pakistan through Drone strikes. One wonders why he focused so much on killing people that he agrees with and is trying to help via the implementation of shariah law in the US.
Joe says
You seem to forget about Garland, TX. Did Obama issue the order to kill Spencer and Geller? That seems to be the case. The FBI was right there and encouraged the attack. When the attack started, they didn’t even notify authorities.
Everyone knew the FBI was part of the attack. Obama did nothing, except give it approval.
With your support of Obama, you show that you support terrorism. You are a danger to yourself and society.
Lebel says
Yes and in addition I also support gay and transgender rights, the environment and women’s rights.
Mark Swan says
Lebel,
You keep repeating President Obama’s support for certain rights in America.
Both sides of the fence wanted terrorist targeted.
With the momentum of his constituency pushing him he could hardly have done less
than to support their pet agendas.
Firstly, focus – for now –to come to terms with a political left which has totally lost its moral compass and political bearings. Islam has embedded the strategic effort of divide and conquer , and with a working goal, that seeks to meld with certain movements, and beyond that, exchange Islam, in the place of the former left’s territory—that is their hope.
Islam such as the Muslim Brotherhood, Hammas, Hezbollah and the Iranian regime do not hide their goal –the re-constituting of democratic societies and their replacement by a sharia-based dictatorial rule. All Muslim Nations support this.
In the mind of Islam, the Democracy way of life, constitutes, rebellion against obedience to Islam, It has to be changed. Total obedience must be to the orders and prohibitions of Islam’s Law. The Islam belief is that allowing people political and personal freedom amounts to heresy.
It is astonishingly so troublesome, that, the political left has enabled Islam, it is so disturbing how they have fell in with such fellowship—but they have—no news there—yet.
With the left resisting anything conservative, it will not recognize Islam abusing constitutional freedom as wrong—not yet.
Multiculturalism has been the Ideal for so long, that any criticism of any group, is not acceptable unless it is the group (s) that the “In People” say is ok to criticize. If this is allowed to continue we will not be able to share any honest, open and diverse opinions of our own—we may even accept a warped collective mindset.
Islam’s threat to our personal freedom is not a point of discussion in academia nor any public forum of any kind—this is a strong political fail-safe for Islam to enjoy—for now—that is changing.
There is no other active anti-Democracy movement like Islam.
You can not be for Islam, and against Fascism.
gravenimage says
If Lebel *really* supports women’s, gay, and transgender rights, then why does he spend all his time here spouting apologia for a creed that throws gay people off tall buildings and stones women to death?
Mark Swan says
Now there is a question–Lebel?
PRCS says
Per Beinart,
“Once upon a time, the American right made room for conservative Muslims.”
That was a good thing in his opinion?
Our Wahabbist,/Salafist “behead ’em in the public square after Friday prayers” Saudi “allies” are very conservative Muslims,
As he apparently thinks the Taliban, al Qaeda, Islamic State “fighters”, etc., are “perverting a religion of peace” Dr. Gorka thinks they’re “the good Muslims”
So many, left and right, have it wrong.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Why is Peter Beinart attacking Spencer and Geller? Maybe he is trying to get back into the good graces of his liberal friends after having given Donald Trump his winning slogan:
“Beinart is the author of the book ‘The Good Fight: Why Liberals – and Only Liberals – Can Win the War on Terror and Make America Great Again’, published in 2006.”
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Beinart
gravenimage says
The Atlantic’s Peter Beinart tries to destroy John Bolton by association with Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller
…………………….
Appalling–but no surprise.
Here he is, outraged that President Trump dared refer to Jihad terrorists as ‘losers’:
“What Trump Reveals by Calling Terrorists ‘Losers'”
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/05/trump-isis-losers/527925/
There’s lots more idiocy from him.
Baucent says
Is that all Mr Beinart has? As a smear it’s pretty lame. He spends more time attacking Gaffney, trying to explain who Gaffney is, then attack Bolton by association. Only the hard Left will lap up this nonsense.
gravenimage says
Yep.
Sagunto says
Who cares about yet another JNN presstitute attacking this neocon “Weapons of Mass Destruction” Bolton type, whose policies would only serve to flood Europe with even more rapefugees?
Defending this sorry excuse for a human being (indeed Wellington), to me is a sure sign that this site is neocon compromised, as I have suspected for several years now (since the tell tale teaming up with this Geller “anti-jihadist” character).
Pushing the fake war on terror, while doing precious little to stem the flood of mohammedans entering European nations… It’s far removed from anything resembling a genuine grassroots anti-Islam movement. Controlled op from the start, sad to say. Hope I’m not the only one time contributor waking up to this sobering fact.
Kind regs from Amsterdam,
Sag.
Phil Copson says
Whatever are you chuntering on about ? John Bolton’s job is to protect America’s interests, not Holland’s.
And by preventing Iran and others from sponsoring global terrorism / launching proxy wars in North Africa, South and Central America / starting a Sunni:Shia Middle East war / developing nuclear weapons / invading Israel etc, it will REDUCE the excuses for the EU/UN Third World mass-migration, and so help Holland, Europe, and the West in general.
With luck, he might also persuade Donald Trump to cut off all funding to the PA, Pakistan, and close down the corrupt and malevolent UN.
Be grateful !
Sagunto says
Hi Phil,
I agree with your Bolton job description. He ought to serve US interests. Sadly, he doesn’t. The man serves neocon interests.
This site is supposedly about countering jihad in all its forms: overt, stealth, weapons of mass migration.. etcetera. In its scope, JW is international and so are the repercussions of policies advocated by criminals as John Bolton. Don’t like a non-US perspective? Fair enough.
As is the case with the Bolton crook, this site doesn’t actually serve the alleged cause.
It belongs, sad to say, to a network of “counter-jihad” initiatives, serving first and foremost the interests of neocon warmongers, pushing their fake “War on Terror”.
Washington’s interests are of no concern to me. I’d say that the interests of the American people are not exactly served by the neocon power elite and their criminal associates.
Oh, and re: gratefulness.. we’d be “grateful” if the US troops would vacate their military bases in Europe and just go back to where they belong. I agree with you that the UN is malevolent. So are NATO and the EU(SSR). They should be disbanded.
First and foremost we should rid our lands of Islam and mohammedans. That’s what this and other CJ sites should be all about. But they’re not anymore, if they ever were.
I realise all too well that this doesn’t sound grateful. Well, what can I say. Tough titty.
Kind regs from Amsterdam,
Sag.
Mark Swan says
Well Sagunto—-
How is Mr. Bolton a criminal?
How is he a Crook?
How does he not serve US interests?
gravenimage says
No wonder I haven’t seen Segunto here for a very long time, if he considers opposing the Jihad to be “a fake war on terror”. Good grief…
And no–no American is capable of stopping the flood of Muslims into Europe. As a European, he should know that the United States has no such power.
Sagunto says
Hi GI,
I liked the part where you provided counterarguments based on reason and evidence … oh wait.
And neocon Washington has that power (sadly enough). Just stop destabilizing the Middle East. Simple.
Phil Copson says
“….In 2010, he wrote the forward to Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer’s book, The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration’s War on America. Bolton’s forward….” (Peter Beinart)
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Today’s top tip: “Anybody so stupid that he thinks that books have a “forward” rather than a “foreword” isn’t worth listening to.”
gravenimage says
🙂
Yitz says
Mortimer: i love your new word: presstitute.i hope it makes it into oxford dictionary
KJW says
A note about the number of Islamist jihadi attacks aka terrorism since 9/11-which is a larger number than what thereligionofpeace cites. First off, they attack and smear Robert and Pamela because they’re public figures, but they are essentially smearing millions of people who have studied Islam, ex-Muslims, and people as myself who self-study Islam apart from reading recent news such as on Jihad Watch. My sources of knowledge are numerous. A friend in Iran, who, according to him, “discovered the truth” about Islam at 25 years old and angry that he was lied to, is saying now, that Leftists deserve what they get for being so stupid and uninformed. This is someone who lives under sharia law and hates the 70s Leftists who helped the Ayatollahs, many of whom had to eat crown as ~30,000 Iranians were killed by the Islamist regime over the course of ~10 years. They don’t seem to learn, especially because they don’t study and didn’t even read Ayatollah Khomeini’s books to see how perverted and violent he was-he clearly advocated for violence in the name of maintaining and spreading Islam.
In Andrew Bostam’s and Ibn Warraq’s 2005 book “The Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims,” which is a very well-sourced book of non-Muslims and Muslims alike, also had an updated forward in the 2007 paperback edition, It said:
“During mid-November 2007 a grim milestone was recorded in the macabre tally being kept assiduously in cyberspace by Glen Reinsford: the 10,000th attack by jihadist terrorists resulting in some 60,000 dead and 90,000 injured since the cataclysmic acts of jihad terrorism on September 11, 2001.
Reinsford does not include combat related statistics, and he acknowledges that the death toll may increase in the days and months following any given attack (as victims die from their injuries), and this rarely gets reported. His tally excludes the genocide in Darfur committed by the Islamic government of Sudan and their marauding jihadist militias (the Janjaweed), whose murderous ravages the UN estimated last year had resulted in 400,000 dead and 2 million displaced.
Reinsford identified three episodes of such continuous, mind-numbing jihadist carnage that had perhaps unsettled him most:
Nadimarg, India, March 23, 2003, dozens of Hindu villagers were roused out of their beds and machine-gunned by Lashkar-e-Toiba. (Something Muhammad’s men did and mentioned in the Sira, that is attacking at night.)
Beslan, Russia, September 3, 2004, some 350 people slaughtered by jihadists-half of them women and children.
Malatya, Turkey, three Christian Bible distributors, bound, tortured for hours and then gruesomely murdered by men who explicitly acted in the name of Islam. (I have seen recent year’s videos of Turks attacking Christians who aren’t even terrorists.)
He goes on to discuss jihad’s mention in the Qur’an 36 times in grammatical forms of “Jahada” and it’s certainly not some inner struggle. Muslim scholars don’t deny it, just apologetics. It is incumbent on ALL Muslims, and if they can’t do jihad themselves, at least support jihad. Saudi Arabia trains and promotes jihadists all over, as well as some Pakistan schools, North African, Gaza, and numerous imams.
Islam is the problem. Per the Sira and Hadith, the Oath of Aqaba is discussed which was a pledge of allegiance in the name of Allah to fight all of mankind” in order to conquer, loot, steal, rape, and subject non-Muslims to Islam or death or dhimmitude. Keep in mind, the illiteracy in the Arab world is still bad and hovering around 50% in some countries, about 300,000 out of ~30 million Saudis are well-educated and Africa is worse-while in 1975 according to my atlas all western countries and Argentina were above 90% The Syrian and Iraqi war has thwarted education, but their rate was low too, Iran finally got in the low 80s as far as literacy. Islam also banked on illiteracy plus most Muslims haven’t even read the whole Qur’an, let alone the hadith. European and American leaders well-know the problems of Islam, continue to lie through their teeth for their economic machinations, and probably paid media as happens with universities, propagates their destructive lies. Talk about degradation of western civilization!
It matters not if Muslims are taught the “soft view” of early Qur’anic verses because the aggressive ones (such as Saudi imams, et all) are the ones who control it all, threaten reformist Muslims, and apostates and blasphemers, and by vigilantes. If the Atlantic is this lazy and dishonest to not admit the truth, then they will pay for it or convert to Islam like cowardly dhimmis. It appears that many liberals have been spoiled and brainwashed that they have lost sight of an America and its values that are worth defending. It isn’t a Muslim witch hunt comparable to 1950s commie hunters or 1930s Jews, this is clearly spelled out by Muslim parties, President Erdogan of Turkey, the Saudis, etc. It’s so blatantly obvious yet the Left and politicians continue to lie at the expense of ALL non-Muslims regardless of race, color, religion or creed. The anti-white talk is deplorable while whites like me and whites of the past are trying to save your freedoms from the more racist Middle East and still African slavery perpetuated by Arabs who are whiter than blacks-not white like northern Europeans. Middle Eastern countries didn’t even abolish slavery until the late 50s, early 1960s and Nigeria didn’t take it off their books until 2003. Yet slavery persists. We must change the narratives and make these paid and cowed dhimmis Americans wake up. Paying off your mortgage and buying a new car isn’t worth what you will do to future generations like young Iranians looking at their parents’ and grandparent’s photos from the 60s and 70s when they had the freedom to dress as they pleased.
KJW says
Writing fast: that would be the Leftists in Iran who had to “eat crow.” Many died when they realized they were fooled and then turned into dissidents. Some of the protestors for the Ayatollahs are now in jail and regret it, some are very ashamed and don’t want to talk about. Iranians who were in prison and now living in Canada talk about their horrible experiences and the post-traumatic syndrome they suffer. A documentary on YT. Imagine how they feel to watch dhimmi PM Trudeau and Canada cow to the very kinds of people who caused them misery. One Iranian woman had complained that the Toronto Mayor and government sponsored a “jihad day,” a violation of church and state, according to her, and giving attention to this religion. No other immigrant group in America has been given this kind of attention, this amount of lies, and it’s nuts. It IS a clash of civilizations perpetrated and allowed by our own politicians who don’t have the spine to stand up to the Saudis back to the 70s, as the Saudis need to sell the oil anyway. America doesn’t need their oil-we have it. It’s the degenerate corporations and markets that prohibit us from disengaging with ME oil. Corporations have no conscience.
Perhaps Kissinger’s idea was right, and others have said the same. When you look at the carnage oil states have spawned…any style of radicals, fundamentalist, and Qur’an adherents…and what they teach, it makes you wonder if we could have done better for humanity. Too late now. We have to fix this, expel any Muslim Brotherhood employees of government, disband CAIR, correct the compromised FBI, curtail building of mosques, get all of Islam and religion out of schools, universities return money and close the Islamic Law centers, and stop cowing to the Arab’s demands which bugs the heck out of other religions and ethnic groups who have never gotten this kind of attention. Spanish is the 2nd most important language for US citizens, not Arabic. We have Puerto Rican citizens and Latin Americas, both of whom assimilate whether they’ve learned English or not. Cuevros, margaritas, and Latina dancing. (;
gravenimage says
Yes–it is probably even worse than what is covered by the Religion of Peace site–that is horrific enough, though.
Xero_G says
Beinart breathlessly reports that John Bolton had actually criticized ISLAM ITSELF!! Oh the horror!
Mark Swan says
Good One Xero_G