“School spokesman Greg Vehr says the university is ‘committed to excellence and diversity.'”
Except, of course, diversity of thought. Universities and colleges today are not centers of higher learning; they’re radioactive wastelands of Leftist indoctrination, and are unashamedly totalitarian: dissenters such as Clifford Adams are swiftly and ruthlessly punished, with no second chance and no recourse.
This isn’t just happening in universities, either. It is rapidly becoming the norm in the wider society as well. Anyone who questions the dogmas that Islam is a religion of peace and that Muslims are persecuted and harassed in Donald Trump’s America is pilloried and destroyed. The freedom of speech is a despised and misunderstood concept, as it has become widely accepted that “hate speech” is not protected by the First Amendment, and the slightest negative word about Islam constitutes “hate speech.”
Note the totalitarian pattern. Adams, subject to Hillary Clinton’s recommended peer pressure and shaming, issues an abject apology. But it isn’t good enough. He must be made an example for anyone else who might dare to dissent.
The University of Cincinnati ought to be picketed and inundated with protests until Clifford Adams is reinstated. But it is unlikely that there are enough lovers of freedom there who understand the implications of this case and are willing to stick their necks out.
Meanwhile, in which Muslim country would Greg Vehr or anyone else at the University of Cincinnati venture to say that Muslim women are safer than they are in the U.S.?
“Music professor who said Muslim woman safer in US forced out,” Associated Press, March 10, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
CINCINNATI – An Ohio music professor who said Muslim women and girls are safer in the U.S. than in any Middle Eastern country has been forced to retire.
The Cincinnati Enquirer reports University of Cincinnati assistant professor Clifford Adams has been placed on administrative for the remainder of the semester and will retire May 1.
He made the comment online to a Muslim student who had criticized Donald Trump’s presidency and spoke about freedom and diversity. Adams wrote “how dare” she complain.
…He earlier wrote a letter to The Enquirer saying he was “deeply sorry” and was trying to have a “lively, provocative, scholarly argument.”
School spokesman Greg Vehr says the university is “committed to excellence and diversity.”
Mac-101 says
Does any of these supposedly intellectuals have any moral courage and stand by the Truth they Speak instead of cowering in fear? You’d think Stalin had his courts set up and Beria was read to put a bullet in their head in the shower room in da Basement!
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Freedom ends in a whimper!
HugoHackenbush says
Truth is no longer a defense. The verity of the negative statement is proof of guilt (of the thought crime of “fomenting hatred” etc.)
Mac-101 says
Yup, it’s 1984 on da Animal Farm in the Brave New World at a toasty 451*F!
LeeZee says
Brilliant!!! That’s the kind of clever comment I’d like to hear from our late-night hosts instead of their PC cheap shots!
Mac-101 says
So true. Is this all due to the drastic drop in testosterone in the Western Male or the dominance of the liberal women voter? Their fate will be exceptionally cruel once the caliphate is established!
greyhound fancier says
The universities have many cowardly characters who wouldn’t hesitate to criticize Judaism and Christianity, and who probably sponsor anti-Semitic events, but keep mohammedanism untouched by any discouraging word.
They are afraid – rightly so – but their response to their fears is not to confront them, learn about their adversary, and prepare for a confrontation, but rather they shoot the messenger.
Brilliant! How happy would these foolish silly people be if they were forced to live in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, or any other mohammedan paradise?
CRUSADER says
Greyhound ~
Well SAID. (No pun intended)
See the article below which speaks to what you brought up!
CRUSADER says
Irshad Manji should give a lecture to University of Cincinnati about MORAL COURAGE !!!
Terry Gain says
Manji claimed in an interview on ABC years ago that houris were raisins. Yes, raisins with swelling breasts. The kind of raisins to give Muslim men permanent erections. Manji is no heroine. She is a cynic who has capitalized on the understandable fear of islam, but she is still faithful to the insane ideology even though she wouldn’t last 5 minutes in Pakistan.
Terry Gain says
David Wood exposes Manji as a liar about houris.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNL8xugDNZQ
Wellington says
Seconded, Terry Gain. Irshad Manji gives cover to Islam by portraying it as something good.
CRUSADER says
Regarding Irshad Manji, if you were to sit with her in a room for 15 minutes…
What would you most want to learn from her, hear from her?
(Not tell her, but listen to her say. What would that explanation be about?)
gravenimage says
Irshad Manji may or may not be sincere in her claims that Islam can be reformed. But at best she is mistaken–and so, whether this is her intent or not, she does indeed give cover to Islam.
Richard says
No. We are free to say whatever we want … just so long as the liberals agree with it.” It is like the famous line from Animal Farm: “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”
BC says
American education is in deep do do, its secondary education is in poor standing internationally
and its academic institutions are losing credibility also
sally says
Freedom of thought and expression in our universities ended many decades ago. Catch up. It is too bad that it takes something as egregious as this example to alert people to this fact. Our colleges and universities have been straight jackets of lock-step uniformity for as long as I can remember. People dare not differ from any teaching method, any administrative decision, and obviously even ordinary common sense and incontrovertible fact is abolished when it stands in the way of the message from the top, however illogical and counterproductive that message may be. Many professional lives have been quietly snuffed out for less.
Of course I hope that this man is reinstated, but even if he is, he has been forced to recant the truth and humiliate himself in order to illicit another kick in the groin from these self-righteous baboons. He would be better off going home to his kitchen table and writing a book, really. That university is in effect closed to him regardless. In a situation like this, if he were to be reinstated and accept and go back he would be subjected to a withering slow death. Not worth it. Take back your apology!
Mark Swan says
Absolutely sally
J D S says
I thought FEAR was what held Islamist noses to their made up religion.
I sure was mistaken..not only are politicos afraid and most other officials but apparently schools of higher leftist learning are held by FEAR also.
Robert you just keep coming the best phrases…
“RADIOACTIVE WASTELANDS OF LEFTIST INDOCTRINATIONl
Now if that don’t fit Most of today’s universities I don’t know what would.
Parker says
The truth is the enemy among the Islamophiliac cucks who run our schools. But that is the same school where some Somali Moslem rapefugee pulled off a stab and crash back in 2016 then got shot dead
RichardL says
He looks a little too young to retire. An assistant professor doesn’t have tenure and I suspect he has been fired.
gravenimage says
Yes–just what I was thinking.
CRUSADER says
Most EVERYTHING is safer and more secure in Non-Muslim societies!
(Except maybe cats….)
But ACADEMIA is having a real challenge in the West and far reaches of the globe!!!
Below, explains a lot…about what has been transpiring….
Check this article out:
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LEFT swing in Academia globally…with loss of critical thought….
….and how the false “Orientalism” critique by Edward Said has taken over many sectors of thought.
All the more reason for Ibn Warraq’s “Defense of the WEST” rebuttal!!!
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NEW LEFT THINKERS: PURSUING UTOPIA OR ANNIHILATION?
[ A review of Roger Scruton’s “Fools, Frauds and Firebrands.” ]
March 9, 2018 FRONT PAGE MAGAZINE
How did we arrive at a world where the New York Times and other prominent mass media extol leaders of the brutal North Korean regime at the Olympics?
The answer is that our current mainstream journalists and educational establishment are largely the ideological offspring of the European and American thinkers of the New Left.
Thanks to Roger Scruton’s book Fools, Frauds and Firebrands: Thinkers of the New Left, I can now better understand my own experiences of contemporary academia.
Until fifteen years ago I devoted a lot of effort to promoting critical thinking in higher education in Japan and Asia. Then I came up against widespread resistance among academics to the inculcation of rationality and eventually gave up on many of those efforts, mystified by the current ascendency of relativistic thinking in the university world. Even more puzzling has been the emergence of Marxist thought among evangelical intellectuals like Tim Keller.
A conservative British philosopher and prolific writer, Roger Scruton does a superb job of explaining how this state of affairs came about. He probes the writings of many influential European and American New Left thinkers, such as Sartre, Said, Foucault, Adorno, Derrida, Rorty, and Zizek. Rather than trying to cover his analysis of these writers in detail, this review will bring out some prominent themes of the whole book that impressed me, including some representative quotes.
To begin with, the New Left thinkers clearly revealed their hostility to ordinary people and their traditions. Like the older Marxists before them, they demonized the bourgeoisie, which basically means middle-class people. Only industrial laborers and leftist intellectuals escape this broad condemnation.
That stance helps account for the apathy of these intellectuals toward the atrocities carried out by leftist leaders like Stalin and Pol Pot. For instance, the French Maoist Badiou made light of the damage caused by China’s Cultural Revolution. Scruton comments that Badiou “expresses a kind of dismissive contempt towards the many Chinese people who had the impertinence to cherish their traditional culture at a time when the French intellectuals had, in their ignorance, waved that culture to extinction.” That disdain usually also applied to bourgeois ideas like human rights.
Hostility to normal people went hand-in-hand with a rejection of their way of thinking, meaning common-sense rationality. The leftist intellectuals espoused a relativist view of truth and condemned rationality as a tool of dominance. Scruton’s analysis made me realize that the anti-rational stance of thinkers like Michel Foucault is not really a bug but a feature, from their point of view.
Relativism makes it impossible to subject leftist ideology to critical analysis. Therefore, critics cannot come at them with the power of truth and argument. This seems to be a tacit admission that leftist ideology can no longer bear any close scrutiny.
After all, the disasters visited on many societies by leftist ideologues during the last century have made it extremely difficult to mount a compelling rational case for leftism. As a result, the best course available is to portray rational thought as a conspiracy to oppress people.
As Scruton puts it, “nonsense is much to be preferred to sense. For it builds a way of life around something that cannot be questioned.” In the place of clear, coherent argumentation, Scruton finds modern leftist intellectuals engaging in name-calling and psychological censure (impugning twisted motives to opponents) — tactics very familiar to all of us these days.
This cavalier attitude to truth has led to astonishing instances of intellectual dishonesty, such as the widespread embrace of Edward Said among the leftist intelligentsia. Said’s writings are full of misrepresentations intended to discredit well-established, significant scholars of Islam, like Bernard Lewis, whom Said dismissed as bigots guilty of “othering” Eastern peoples.
However, Said was really guilty of greater intellectual wrongdoing than they were, since he lied about himself and historical facts. For instance, he claimed to have been raised in Palestine when in fact he grew up in a wealthy family in Egypt.
None of that mattered, since Said’s condemnations were in line with the agenda of leftist academics. Scruton explains:
The principal reason for Said’s popularity in our universities is that he provided ammunition against the West. Many of those appointed as the guardians of Western culture will seize on any argument, however flawed, and any scholarship, however phony, in order to denigrate their cultural inheritance. We have entered a period of cultural suicide. . .
Even here in Japan, I encounter academics who venerate Said. Some years ago a documentary film lionizing him was shown on our campus, and I attended a literature conference last year in Kobe where one presentation glorified him.
Because of the convoluted, irrational theorizing of these New Left intellectuals, I found the book rough going in places. They often throw out terms like “social justice” without really defining what it means. By using such suggestive but unclear terms, they conjured up vague utopian hopes but failed to offer any concrete, realistic plans for the future.
In fact, a number of them openly declared that an unattainable utopia is morally superior to anything concrete.
Scruton wryly notes that “when, in the writings of Adorno, I discover that the alternative to the capitalist system is utopia I congratulate the writer for his honesty, since that is another way of saying that there is no alternative.”
Scruton’s humorous and insightful comments illuminate their confusing, often incoherent theorizing. Yet despite the combative tone of the book’s title, Scruton also sometimes expresses appreciation for insights in the works of some of these thinkers.
The most invidious aspect of the New Left thinkers may be their determination to destroy all perceived obstacles to utopia, which masquerades as a quest for equality: “The goal is not equality or liberty conceived in the qualified sense that you or I would understand those terms. It is absolute equality (with a bit of liberty thrown in if you are lucky), which can by its nature be achieved only by an act of total destruction.”
Demolishing statues and setting fire to vehicles have become present-day enactments of the nihilistic direction of New Left thought. Observing the quasi-religious devotion of our current crop of activists, Scruton memorably remarks, “A blind faith drags radical leftists from ‘struggle’ to ‘struggle’, reassuring them that everything done in the name of equality is well done and that all destruction of existing power will lead towards the goal.”
Leftist thinkers regularly blame the bourgeoisie and capitalism for problems that are simply the results of human moral frailty, such as materialism and reducing people to commodities. More insightfully, Judeo-Christian thinking has always attributed the evils of consumerism to idolatry (the worship of things) and original sin (mankind’s inborn inclination to evil), as Scruton rightly points out.
Despite its occasional difficulty, Scruton’s book is well worth reading. It shows what happens when utopian fantasy triumphs over human reality. But then, we can see the same thing at our universities and in our mass media every day.
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(Bruce W. Davidson is a professor at Hokusei Gakuen University in Sapporo, Japan and a contributor to The Jonathan Edwards Encyclopedia.)
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/269543/new-left-thinkers-pursuing-utopia-or-annihilation-bruce-davidson
FRONT PAGE MAGAZINE
Ray Jarman says
Crusader,
The article failed to point out the major argument against any communistic/socialistic government which is that not one in the history of man has ever succeeded or fulfilled its promises. Not even the ancient Khmers could make a success as it like Lenin’s version and every attempt in America such as Robert Owen’s attempt in New Harmony, Indiana in the early 1820s.
The professor at a university in Texas proved on a smaller scale that it is doomed from the start as his class was espousing the merits of the failed system and so he made a deal with them. He said that the class during the semester would be structured on a pure communist foundation. When the mid term tests were taken, the class achieved a “C” score. When the final arrived and the class received their grade, they were outraged. The class failed (all received an “F”) since only a few put any effort into the tests and less in papers required during the semester. I would like to have seen a follow-up to the experiment and how the students fared later in their quests.
Maybe the school should offer some of the female students who disagree with the professor to spend a semester in a Pakistani or even Saudi university. I bet they would change their attitudes.
Ray Jarman says
I meant to say “Indiana in the early 1820s imploded as only a few actually worked.”
CRUSADER says
I think this remark isn’t underlined enough these days:
Judeo-Christian thinking has always attributed
the evils of consumerism to idolatry (the worship of things)
and original sin (mankind’s inborn inclination to evil)
Richard says
Yes, but some of it goes off the rails. A young SSPX priest asked me in confession what I did for a living. When I said I invested in stocks, he replied “That is as bad or worse than anything you have confessed.” Is it really? Putting aside the fact that the Bible says St. Peter had employees and partners (making him the CEO of a corporation), St. Thomas Aquinas wrote: “If a man puts up his money with a group of merchants or tradesmen, he has a right to share in their profits” – which is a perfect description of a stockholder. The SSPX has chapels spread over wide distances from one another that few could get to without automobiles. If it were not for enormous factories costing hundreds of millions of dollars, each car would have to be built individually by artisans, making their costs far outside the possibility of anyone but the super rich … But it would make no difference because they could not be run without gasoline, which depends on drilling oil and transporting that oil to huge refineries to be made into gasoline, which must then be moved to gas stations hundreds of miles away. The cost of this infrastructure is in the billions or even trillions of dollars. Without capitalism, the SSPX could not survive. Nor could the modern world. Just ask Venezuela.
LeeZee says
Have any of you straight thinking Academics thought of coralling your “Tired and Poor”y treated colleagues into establishing a University of your own to counteract the cowardly, inept, biased, inhumane and irrational former bastions of education, wisdom and ethics, morality, justice and reason? Pardon the run-on sentence, but my brain is on overload and I most likely will not be around when the fit hits the Shan! However, I truly fear for the progeny and World that I will leave behind. I will not go quietly for I have naught to lose!
sally says
These people have no money to start up universities, if they did they could not get accreditation, so no one could get loans to go there, nor would they dare invest in them for the same reason. The best answer is to stay away from universities altogether. Businesses should discount the degrees issued therefrom and look rather at the prospective employee’s honesty and common sense. Another alternative is distance education, which is imperfect also because of the possibility of using biased materials. At least in this case the grandstanding would be at a minimum because there would be no “student movements” for anything other than getting assignments in. Most of our universities are really at the level that eighth grade was back in the 19th century. No kidding. Take a look at the 6th McGuffey’s Reader (once the one-room school standard) and give it to your average college senior. See if he can read it. My bet is no. So these have become merely institutions of chaos and social engineering where little or no learning takes place. It is too bad that they are chewing up students’ financial futures through these awful student loans. Sickening, really. These dumb kids will be paying literally the rest of their lives for what? For a chance to mouth other people’s thoughts in unison, to make some crayon signs with mindless slogans, to chant the party line and to join in the bullying of anyone – like this professor – who dares to think for himself and speak what he knows is the truth.
Georg says
Here is the e-mail for the Chief Human Resources Officer:
tamie.grunow@uc.edu
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
How safe muslim women are in the West, especially in the evil united states, where mithraist christians with large hard foreskins sexually assaulting them even while praying ?
CRUSADER says
Sex
Sex
Sex
Always with the Sex.
Get a Dog!
or a Goat!
Keys says
For Pete thakes,
Ibrahim itace needs a mithrist.
Blangwort says
How safe are they in countries where rape isn’t even possible between a husband and wife?
How safe are women where laws prevent them from going out in public alone?
How safe are women from other faiths?
How safe are women where the laws require multiple witnesses to confirm that a rape was real?
The differences couldn’t be more stark. You can claim all the statistics you want, The foundation of how you define these terms is where the dirty reality lies.
JW_Reader says
Even a female goat or camel is not safe in a Muslim country – let alone a female human being. “Camel Sex” was the most popular search term on Google originating from Pakistan, few years back.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
JW Reader, Kids are not safe in the hands of mithraist churchmen, especially in the West. They have anus and vaginal sex with them. Dont’ trust your children to churchmen for safety.
Indiana Tom says
…and Muslims get to play Bacha Baz and Bacha Bazi games.
762x51FMJ says
The difference between Christianity and Islam is simple, apparent, and easy to understand.
To become a martyr under Islam you kill someone.
To become a martyr under Christianity, you save someone.
Richard says
Your point is excellent and entirely valid, but you are thinking of the term, “saint”. A martyr is one who gives up his or her life for their faith, for which they become saints. In the beginning of the Church, these are the only ones who were accounted saints. Even today, officially, it must be a relic of a martyr (not just a saint) which is placed in the altar over which the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is celebrated in the Catholic Church. But, again, your point is brilliantly ironic. St. Augustine wrote: “Jesus said ‘I send you as sheep among wolves.’ What is this? Wolves kill sheep! And the wolves did indeed kill the sheep. And, wonder of wonders, the wolves themselves became sheep.”
eduardo odraude says
Itace, it sounds like you have direct experience with that organ you described in such curious detail. Have you forgotten that Muhammad ordered to kill the one who does it as well as the one to whom it is done? Be careful, the Iranian government might hang you from a crane. Some other Muslim countries would throw you off a building. You should really consider abandoning Islam, which murders gays like yourself.
Shmoovie says
Oh, please, filthy Ibby with the gutter mind.
If muslim women were anywhere being attacked by Western men there would be endless howling & coverage from an enraged media, Sarsour & co, etc.
The only source of real danger for muslim women in the West is the same that endangers them elsewhere: MUSLIM males.
Please don’t bother the animals. There are websites with aids for your particular obsessions.
Wellington says
Is it possible, Ibrahim, you could leave planet Earth? Hey, look at it this way: Those 72 virgins await you (and the “pearly boys” too).
Phil Copson says
Go and have a cold-shower, you sex-crazed savage…
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
How safe muslim women are in the West, especially in the evil united states, where mithraist christians with large hard foreskins sexually assaulting them even while praying ?
………………….
So–to illustrate how unsafe Muslim women are in the United States, Ibrahim itace muhammed points to cases that do not exist–there is no documentation of a single such case–and further bemoans how terrible this supposedly is by pointing to an anatomical trait of uncircumcized Infidel men that does not exist.
Really, that says it all.
Norger says
OMG WTF are you talking about?!
LeftisruiningCanada says
Ibrahim, why do you think it’s ok to keep posting up your vile sexual comments?
Do you have no shame?
Your filthy repetitive comments disgust everyone who reads them.
It’s almost as if you are trying to confirm our perception of islam. Why would you want to do that?
Pet Charles says
There must be a lot more to the story. The professor is a fool for issuing an apology or resigning!! Someone characterised the US President, and someone rebutted the characterisation, and he resigned? That sounds like a set up to me. Its like the fake story where the news repositioned the body of the Syrian boy face down on the beaches of Europe. Even non-lawyers know that the professor as an air tight First Amendment lawsuit!! The professor is a leftist plant!! No way anybody who is serious would apologise and not take it to court!!
Terry Gain says
The world is full of cowards. Most people take the path of least resistance. If it were otherwise islam would have been destroyed when it set foot on America.
gravenimage says
No, it’s not a fake story. Many people when faced with such accusations do indeed apologize. We see this all the time in the West, unfortunately.
Garfield says
There might have been a way to take his pension had he not apologized. Horrible!
Berengaria says
Universities APPEAR To Be the First Boosters of MUSLIM SUPREMACISTS in our Country. Most of our Universities in Florida are geared to the Muslim or Illegal Students’ Programs, rather than to American Students. It is not beyond the scope of Muslim Nastiness, that some Muslim Students are Literally dictating what is taught in their classes. They run to the Media to air their grievances against our Country. A Sad Reality!
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
When the Framers put in the 1st Amendment, it wasn’t meant for the pleasure of personal expression, it was put in to ensure that the people got access to full information with which to make group decisions. Take away full and correct information, and the capacity for good national decision making is lost. And so here we are.
At Berkeley the Free Speech Movement was born of fraud. There had been no constraint put on speaking out against the Vietnam war. But no academic or news outlet questioned the veracity of the movement’s name, itself an instance of turnspeak. And so the decline of free speech was started. Born on a campus, the constraint of free speech is strongest on all campuses, as with the firing of this professor on the U Cincy campus.
762x51FMJ says
Anyone who goes around trying to silence anyone else from saying whatever they want is a fascist.
Wellington says
If he had said the exact opposite, i.e., that Muslim women are safer in Muslim countries than in the US, he would have been congratulated, perhaps raised to associate professor status from assistant professor, etc. He certainly would not have been forced into retirement.
American academia has become a laughing stock filled with loons, cowards, haters of America and the West and defenders of the worst religion ever created by man and where free speech, I mean real free speech, is no longer acceptable or even present. Orwell’s 1984 is the reality in 2018 in the least free places in America, i.e., educational establishments from pre-school through graduate school. And you have the Left to thank for this first and foremost.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
eduardo odraude says
Many of the universities today are dominated by a fearful atmosphere of political correctness, i.e., craven pusillanimous conformity. Parts of political correctness are just decency and politeness, but when it comes to Islam, what’s involved in PC is cowardice, bias, and ignorance of slew of subjects: the core Islamic texts, human rights conditions in Muslim-majority countries, the history of Islam, and polls of Muslim opinion today. Islam is an aggressive, expanisionist, totalitarian system, despite the Muslims who are “moderate,” not devout, or nominal.
Gjallarhornet says
At what point does it stop? How far are these ‘fire anybody critical of islam’-totalitarians willing to go?
What if somebody was interviewed, asked about islam and responded “I will not say anything. The slightest thing will get you fired these days”?
Would that barley noticeable reservation, coming in a veiled sentence, be enough to get you fired? Yes, I think so. We got to understand: it is not about what we say, it is about the system sensing that people is not on board the multi cultural bandwagon and firing them for *that*. So remember: people is not fired because they say things that have crossed some line. They are fired – simply because they are not enthusiastic over islam. That is all. You don’t dig islam? Youre fired! The outrage is merely a thinly veiled excuse – for mind control.
God only knows what this all is going to lead to.
Gjallarhornet says
An analogy: a business company is in their right to fire somebody over lack of enthusiasm for the overall structure of the game. ‘Don’t know if stock prices interest me’ just won’t cut in an important post in a monster-multinational company.
Academia has now adopted this model, but without ever asking if it would fit. And in today’s academia the overall structure *is* multicultural leftism. The idea that you can work in a faculty of the arts, quietly cultivate your project, and just stay away from politics is very naive. The whole system of the humanities and social science is now a giant factory for left wing activism and slogans. Going in there saying ‘I’ll just work on my personal project, get along with everybody, and keep my politics out of it’ won’t cut it. You are EXPECTED to be an advocate for ‘social justice’ and similar leftist programs. Going in there without being willing to do so would be like applying for a job at the board of Chase Manhattan Bank, stating you have no interest in making money.
Yes, you are REQUIRED to adhere to the tenants now. And one of those commandments is, that islam … is a fantastic thing. It is not only asked of you not to contradict this – you must be willing to fight and die tor such ideas, swallow them whole. If not, you do not belong. God knows how many talented people are heading as far away as they can from academia now, for those very reasons.
The old academic virtue of telling the truth, or at least question what everybody agrees on, which in this case would oblige you to question this ‘wonderfulness’ of islam, has all turned obsolete. Our universities have turned totalitarian, folks. In passing, it is also strange to see the United States having turned into a country where if you agree with the president … you will get fired!
eduardo odraude says
tenets, not tenants
Gjallarhornet says
Yes, I saw that one, but too late. Got the words mixed up, English is not my first language. Now over to the point I make. I do believe it is an important one.
Indiana Tom says
CINCINNATI – An Ohio music professor who said Muslim women and girls are safer in the U.S. than in any Middle Eastern country has been forced to retire.
The Cincinnati Enquirer reports University of Cincinnati assistant professor Clifford Adams has been placed on administrative for the remainder of the semester.
School spokesman Greg Vehr says the university is “committed to Fascism and Totalitarianism..”
Indiana Tom says
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Mar 10, 2018 at 11:44 am
It is not only Islamapobia, but real neonazi hate propagandas against muslims, Happily, the promoters of such hate propagandas against muslims are becoming tiny minority and are being isolated with intellectual reasonings……such as an Ohio music professor who said Muslim women and girls are safer in the U.S. than in any Middle Eastern country has been forced to retire. Intellectual reasonings?
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
How simple and apparent mithraist christianity is ? It is still not settled whether jesus was God himself or merely begotten son of God. some tried to philosophise It, but it failed the test on rules of logic. How can 3 distinct entities to be one without using fraction, which is a division ? they said It is a mytery, which is exactly thé characteristic of paganism of mithraism of old inspired by thé Satan christians Call holy spirit.
CogitoErgoSum says
How can liquid water, ice and steam (3 distinct entities) all be H2O?
Indiana Tom says
A shamrock has 3 petals, but it is still one plant per Saint Patrick.
eduardo odraude says
One finger has three parts. One human being is thought, feeling, and will. What needs explaining is not how something can be both one and many. What needs explaining is how someone could boggle at the idea.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Eduardo, when you separate the parts into 3 distinct, entities can you Call It one without using fraction formula ?was God the father not in the heaven when God the son was On earth as Immanuel ?
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
How simple and apparent mithraist christianity is ? It is still not settled whether jesus was God himself or merely begotten son of God. some tried to philosophise It, but it failed the test on rules of logic. How can 3 distinct entities to be one without using fraction, which is a division ? they said It is a mytery, which is exactly thé characteristic of paganism of mithraism of old inspired by thé Satan christians Call holy spirit.
………………………
Like so many Muslims, Ibrahim itace muhammed is not intelligent enough to grasp the concept of the Trinity, which is not really terribly difficult.
This would not much matter, save that his pious coreligionists murder Christians over their ignorance, and he himself condones this.
And for Ibrahim itace muhammed–who believes that uncircumcised men have enormous, hard foreskins that torture women and that the Bible teaches Christian clerics to crucify and rape women–to invoke logic could not be more perverse.
LeftisruiningCanada says
And now you are here, Ibrahim, irrationally combative as usual, still doing your best to refuse instruction on what other people believe about the nature of our God.
I’m not going to refer to any ‘analogies’ for God’s Trinitarian nature, since they generally confuse the issue and lead into heresy should they be followed too far. I do appreciate their limited usefulness, but the danger for misunderstanding is too great, especially with those who are doing their utmost to misconstrue things anyway.
“How simple and apparent mithraist christianity is ?”
As GI said, the basic concept of God’s Triune nature is not difficult, if you are willing to listen.
” It is still not settled whether jesus was God himself or merely begotten son of God.”
Of course it is settled. You just aren’t listening to what Christians are saying. You never listen to what anyone says, about anything.
“some tried to philosophise It, but it failed the test on rules of logic.”
No, it didn’t. You just ignored what i said previously to you about this very point – we don’t believe that three X = one X. We don’t believe that three Gods = one God. We believe that the one God has within Him three coequal, co-eternal Persons.
” How can 3 distinct entities to be one without using fraction, which is a division ?”
Again, you are assuming that we believe in three Gods. We don’t. Again, you ignored where i quoted to you from the Athanasian Creed, and the paragraph by Gregory of Naziansus, both of which are helpful in trying to understand our belief.
We believe in one God who exists in three Persons, or centers of consciousness. The Persons are each God, distinct but not differing in divinity.
“they said It is a mytery, which is exactly thé characteristic of paganism of mithraism of old inspired by thé Satan christians Call holy spirit.”
No, you have just taken the word ‘mystery’ and applied it to two different things without understanding the change in meaning.
Yes, there were what are called ‘mystery’ religions, where only certain people could participate in the rituals. They were called “mystai”. That is not the same thing as something being a “mystery” in the Christian sense. For us, it just means that God has not fully revealed all the information on the subject.
Your understanding of allah also contains ‘mysteries’. For example, can you claim to understand how it is that allah has existed eternally, without any point of origin or moment of creation?
Probably not. You simply accept it is being part of his nature, part of his awe inspiring character as god. That is what we believe about God’s Triune nature. We can’t explain every single things about Him, though Christians over the millennial have sought to understand Him better through using whatever intellectual tools they had at the time.
“Eduardo, when you separate the parts into 3 distinct, entities can you Call It one without using fraction formula ?”
You are using terms that Trinitarians do not use. We do not speak of “parts” or “entities”, because those words are inaccurate for the ideas we are trying to convey.
You must allow us to use language that we believe is more appropriate in our worship and respectful discussion of our God, Ibrahim.
Since we don’t think in terms of ‘parts’ of God, there is no need to resort to expressing them as fractions of a whole. Each Divine Person is equal in majesty, sharing all qualities of the Divine nature equally. They are one in being, and yet distinct in Person.
“was God the father not in the heaven when God the son was On earth as Immanuel ?”
The Triune God fills all of creation, all of the time, fully and without there being anywhere that He is not.
This is why the first chapter of the book of Hebrews can say that the Son upholds all things with His power, and that He created all things and will endure eternally.
In the Incarnation, the Son entered into union with human flesh from his conception in Mary’s womb. According to Phillipians 2:5-11, the Son, who is also called the Word and Jesus, took upon Himself the form of a servant. He did this to save His people from their sins (matt ch 1). As part of this servanthood, it seems that He voluntarily self limited His divine prerogatives in someways. Here again we run up against mystery, though better men than me have gone much further in chasing out the consequences of these ideas, and answers can be found if you want them.
Was the Son still upholding the universe while on earth as a servant, feeling hunger, tiredness and pain? Was He maintaining in existence the whip that lashed His body to shreds, and holding intact the oxygen that his roman whipper was using to fuel his exerting muscles? Was He sustaining the bodies, the atoms, of those soldiers that nailed Him to the Cross, indeed, the iron of the nails that held Him fixed?
I believe so, and the implications of that are humbling indeed.
Terry Gain says
CRUSADER says
Mar 10, 2018 at 4:42 pm
Regarding Irshad Manji, if you were to sit with her in a room for 15 minutes…
What would you most want to learn from her, hear from her?
(Not tell her, but listen to her say. What would that explanation be about?)
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Crusader
I would not waste a minute on her. She’s an exploitive phoney. Did you not watch the David Wood video that I posted?
Terry Gain says
Irshad Manji. At peace with being Gay, Muslim and In Denial About Islam. It’s not hard to understand. It pays well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YvA5wMgKq3k
Matthieu Baudin says
This type of persecution of dissent, occurring within western universities, is going on all the time and has been widespread and common for many years now. It is a particularly ugly thing to see people such as this woman, who has spent her life serving this institution of higher learning, to be flicked out onto the scrap heap at a moments notice for not adhering to the ‘party line’ and marching in lock step with the frenetic slogans of today’s radical postmodernism.
Lydia Church says
As I said, the islamonazi agenda marches on.
I studied what happened in the holocaust and the parallels with what is happening with all of this stuff today is astounding! You can pretty much predict all the next stages from here and already from many earlier ones which I knew would lead to this. But the sources of how I know are many.
Professors were fired and Jews were eliminated from certain professions such as government jobs, doctors, lawyers, professors, etc. and of course businesses.
Aaron says
the university of Cincinnati has always been a hot bed of p c and progressive b s
in my years in Cincinnati I learned this university has no
Use for truth or open discussion
Fred H says
A big part of the problem is that many university administrators are just morons.
Warmac9999 says
What bothers me is these supposed provocations lead to what should be considered a violation of the employment contract. Where are the lawsuits?
mortimer says
What Prof. Clifford Adams said is WHAT MUSLIMS THEMSELVES SAY… that there is more freedom for MOST MULSIMS to practice their faith in the US and be UNMOLESTED and FREE FROM DEATH THREATS than in ANY OF THE SUPPOSEDLY MUSLIM COUNTRIES, where censorship and GOVERNMENT GOON SQUADS crack down on unapproved minorities or dissenters.
gravenimage says
Univ. of Cincinnati forces prof to retire for noting that Muslim women are safer in US than in Muslim countries
……………………..
How *dare* Clifford Adams speak the truth?
6woods says
It’s all over when you apologize for telling the truth. The end. Western civilization is done.
gravenimage says
Not all of us have surrendered yet.
6woods says
Maybe three or four of us are standing our ground. No-one cares anymore. Everyone else has folded up their tents and gone home. That’s reality.
dumbledoresarmy says
Utter defeatism.
Mitch says
Agreed, 6woods. Apologizing for saying it is worse — worse for all of us — than never having said it in the first place. He in effect is admitting to islamophobic hate speech.
Instead of surrendering to a lie, Clifford Adams should stand by his accurate statement about the plight of Muslim women in Islamic countries. The University of Cincinnati can not win that debate (which is why they’re firing him).
Jordan Peterson faced similar at the University of Toronto and kicked postmodernist arse.
6woods says
Yup. I agree. Manji, though homosexual, has never renounced her religion in toto. She’s a “reformer ” (which we all know is crap), or an apologist at best. Not trustworthy in the least.
UNCLE VLADDI says
This ILLEGAL and wholly subjectivist “HURT FEELINGS” nonsense has got to stop!
Offense can only be taken, never given! If someone says something mean and untrue about you, you either consider the source and scornfully laugh it off, file a lawsuit for defamation, (slander and libel are forms of fraud) or a crime report for inciting violence, if they went that far.
But these recent fake judge-made “laws” are really only onus-reversing crimes, as in:
“You have to prove you DIDN’T hurt my feelings, or else you owe me money! Nyah!”
And there’s no such thing as a state of permanent, ongoing “emotional distress” that isn’t deliberately and willfully, habitually obsessed about – because our emotions are mere reflections of the three basic states of space-time (the static past, the fluid present, and the nebulous future, respectively): static fear, fluid greed, nebulous hope. Not exactly worth defending!
Further, libertine “liberal” criminals have to resort to whining about their hurt feewings, simply because they don’t have any actual facts to justify their many crime excuses!
So, being angry at (“hateful” towards) criminals is now the most vile sin, while pitying (“tolerating”) them all as “fellow victims,” is now to be deemed the highest moral virtue!
So much so, that the only advice we hear from “our” hypocrite governments, their pet media, and the corporazi globalist banksters who own them all, seems to invariably be:
“Anyone who doesn’t automatically pity all criminals as fellow victims should be hated!”
Which is why hurting the feelings of criminals by accusing them of their crimes, is now a “hateful” crime itself!
So any and all legislators, judges, and educators who put criminals’ hurt feelings above facts should be fired and JAILED.
And that includes using the words “Respect!” and “Dignity!”
Objectifying people as “victims!” is what really “disrespects their dignity!”
Any and all “laws” criminalizing hurt feelings should be repealed and their originators fired and JAILED, too!
Because all subjectivist “laws” are really adversarial crimes, seeking to use fraudulent slander to extort and enslave others. Fraud, slander, extortion and slavery (aka “Political Correctness”) are already crimes.
Who complains about hurt feelings (aka defending their “dignity”) anyway?! ONLY criminals!
They always feel hurt and left out when others try and succeed and they don’t, so they feel jealous and entitled to demand an equality of outcome and permanent rights (like, to your stuff) without any concomitant corollary responsibilities (like to earn or otherwise have to pay for it) over an equality of opportunity! i.e: to extort a right to remain irresponsibly wrong – to be able to angrily, “hatefully” attack others first while demanding a false right to be pities for their chosen stance!
Which is why they invented the whole nonsensical and emotive concept of “HATE CRIMES!” – because, in making “hate” into a crime, they extortively try to make it “illegal” for their potential victims to hate their crimes!
Any law-abiding person who gets robbed or extorted doesn’t feel “sad” or “uncomfortable” about it, they feel righteously ANGRY! So their constant demands for pity is one really good way to tell an extortive victimology-spewing criminal from a real victim of same!
Much more, here:
http://unclevladdi.blogspot.ca/2018/03/maga-problems-and-solutions.html
Njoi!
😉
sally says
Unfortunately this is the type of jihad we are going to see more and more of – the silent caving of the West to cultural jihad. When we install footbaths in our airports,when we hold Islamic culture weeks in our schools, when we glorify the ugly headrags by featuring hijab in fashion shows, when we begin eliminating normal Western manifestations of culture, including Christian and Jewish culture, which has been a part of our national character from the very beginning, we lose to jihad without them even lopping off a single head, without a single explosion, without even a random acid attack. We just cave. . . and cave . . . and cave – while they keep advancing their program. Wake up, America. You are at war. Accept it. Why should we be the last to know we are at war?
vera says
Islam declared war against the rest (and many of its own) 1400 years ago. The west barely escaped, then fell asleep on laurels. Now it’s turned into narcolepsy.
Peter WF says
Our problem is that the major political parties are dependent on migration to stay in / or get into, power. They need to appear as good economic managers. To be good economic managers the economy must grow by a percentage the economists consider a good figure. This requires migration to keep the population growing to get to this growth figure – the industries being shut down have to be replaced with something. Where on earth can you get these numbers? Post WW2 it was Europe but now SHIT HOLE COUNTRIES is all that remains.
Search “images world map average IQ” and “images world map marry first cousins”.
Just vote for anyone except the major parties. All the western government major parties import people whether for one reason or another (skill shortage, wages growth, refugee resettlement etc). As much as many people don’t like Trump, what other alternative did the Americans have? There is no third party! I think that he on his own is that 3rd party. The media assault on him is extraordinary. But here he is early in his presidency meeting with the North Korean dictator – something Obama didn’t / couldn’t do in 8 years.
Keep your clear think hat on.
Politicianophobia says
How many years ago did Nihad Awad say “Give scholarships, in five years you will have an army of lawyers, politicians, journalists and teachers who go to schools and universities, who can educate people about the History of Islam–The True Islam”.
Politics is a weapon. The Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorists group.
Politicianophobia says
It is about the establishment of the Islamic form of government, it IS that simple.
Politicianophobia says
How many different ways can the muslims say we are coming: Jaafar Idris said—“So there is a Jihad, the primary Jihad, according to the Quran, is the Jihad with the word but then we there is a Jihad in the sense of violence. There is no doubt about this, Islam is not a Pacifist Religion. Islam is a Realists Religion”.
How many different ways have the barbarians said they are coming: “I will die to establish Islam” . ” War is deception”. ” Oh Allah, destroy America”. “Peace is the absence of opposition”. Sarwat Husain, National Board of CAIR, way back in 2008 said, “It is very important, media in the US is very gullible. OK? And we will see if you have something to say, especially as a Muslim. If you have something to say they will come running to you and you should take advantage of that”.
The best laid plans of the Brotherhood, and what has been done to shut the TREASONOUS BASTARDS down? NOTHING
Peter WF says
I can understand you getting mad. Below is some solace.
Search “images world map average IQ” and “images world map marry first cousins”.
William says
What country re we living in?
Hogdude says
Ah, academic freedom. We hardly knew ye.
Peter WF says
University of Cincinnati joins the the club –
Search “images world map average IQ” and “images world map marry first cousins”.
Cinci says
Quite a coincidence that last year, the University of Cincinnati (UC) accepted a $1 million donation from the largest mosque in the Cincinnati area to fund an Islamic Studies department. A month later, a music professor states that Muslim women and girls are safer in the US than in any Middle Eastern Muslim country. Then terrorist-tied CAIR attacks and UC forces the retirement of the professor. A perfect example of western society kowtowing to Sharia blasphemy law. We are making it so easy for the Muslim Brotherhood and civilization jihad.
Charlie Martel says
Shocking, this is looking more and more like the early stages of Nazism.