It’s the same thing every time: if someone who speaks the truth about the nature and magnitude of the global jihad, including John Guandolo and me, is invited to speak anywhere off the conservative reservation or is holding a public event anywhere, there are protests, defamatory “news” articles, and calls for us to be canceled. There is no engagement with or refutation of what we say, although, as in this article, there are sometimes tendentious presentations of statements we have made, presented without refutation as if they’re self-evidently false.
It shows that powerful forces, such as the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations and the hard-Left smear group the Southern Poverty Law Center, are deeply afraid of us. They know they cannot show us to be wrong, so they defame and smear us, in accord with the Alinskyite playbook, and do everything they can to intimidate and frighten timid event sponsors (which is usually pretty easy) into canceling the event. Have those who bowed to Antifa and SPLC pressure and canceled these events studied the issues and know that what Guandolo says is false? Of course not. They just don’t want their businesses threatened by Left-fascist thugs — but their cowering and kowtowing only encourages Antifa and the SPLC to keep on employing these tactics: they keep working.
Mike Tighe of the La Crosse Tribune thinks that what Guandolo says is false, and explains why: “Also on stage was Understanding the Threat founder John Guandolo, a disgraced former FBI agent, who decried the term jihad as a Muslim declaration of war on non-Muslims. Actually, the Prophet Muhammad used the term to signify a spiritual war against infidels, including oneself — much like cleansing rituals in other religions to purge oneself of sin. But minuscule numbers of Muslims have twisted it into a war against everyone, leading to the murders of thousands in 9/11 and other terror scenarios.”
A spiritual war against infidels, eh? Does this sound like a spiritual war to you? A hadith depicts Muhammad saying: “Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war…When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them…. If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.” (Sahih Muslim 4294)
And in another, Muhammad is depicted as saying: “I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah, and he who professed it was guaranteed the protection of his property and life on my behalf except for the right affairs rest with Allah.” (Sahih Muslim 30) So one’s life and property are not protected unless he professes Islam. Spiritual war, eh?
One day maybe Wikileaks or someone will reveal who gave the order, and how it was delivered. But every mainstream media reporter, down to the smallest and most insignificant outlet on the planet, has gotten those orders, and always obeys them down to the last detail. The orders clearly must say that the SPLC should be treated as a trustworthy, reliable source, while those who note the obvious and readily demonstrable fact that Islamic terrorism stems from and is justified by texts and teachings of Islam is to be treated as a crank, a pariah, a notorious bigot. Mike Tighe of the La Crosse Tribune, like every other mainstream media reporter on earth, has gotten those orders, and follows them here.
Tighe tells us that “blowback against the group, stirred largely by the Southern Poverty Law Center’s ‘Hatewatch’ declaration that the group’s sole purpose is to spew hatred.” Why is the SPLC trustworthy as an arbiter of what is a hate group and what isn’t? Tighe, like every other mainstream media reporter in the galaxy, doesn’t see fit to tell us, or to inform his readers that there is considerable evidence that the SPLC is not a neutral arbiter, but a hard-Left smear group that uses its “extremist” label to tar legitimate groups that oppose its Leftist agenda.
Have you noticed that I keep writing the same things over and over again? That’s because the paradigm is well established. The play has been written, and everyone always acts out his or her part. Here’s how it goes: venue announces event on counterterrorism and jihad. Left-fascists protest and call for the cancellation of the “bigoted” event. Mainstream media reporter writes about the controversy, writing negative and distorted statements about the event, while invoking the SPLC as if it were trustworthy. The only plot variable is that sometimes the event goes on as planned, but more often it is cancelled or disrupted beyond any value (as in my experience at Stanford University).
Sometimes there is also an extra act, in which Spencer exposes the dishonesty and slanted reportage of the “journalist” involved, and the “journalist” angrily defends his or her work, doubling down on the trustworthiness of the SPLC, and the wickedness of Spencer and any other foe of jihad terror who may be involved.
Watch this space. In the next week or so, we’ll put on this play again.
And why is a “journalist” applauding the fascist suppression of free discourse?
“Mike Tighe: Anti-Muslim ranters aren’t welcome here,” by Mike Tighe, La Crosse Tribune, April 12, 2018 (thanks to Aaron):
Well, we dodged a hateful bullet the other day, but it could be just a matter of time until somebody slips another one into the chamber, and — before you know it — a Muslim misanthrope will fire a fusillade of cheap shots in a vile misuse of the First Amendment.
The near miss occurred Friday, when a notoriously hateful group known as Understanding the Threat was scheduled to trot out its lies that Muslims are the root of all evil during a program at the Onalaska OmniCenter. Its theme: “Understanding the Threat of Islam to America.”
The group, which had to pull the plug at the last minute because it hadn’t fulfilled its contractual agreement to obtain indemnity insurance, had convened an anti-Muslim rally in Des Moines, Iowa, the night before.
In Des Moines, author and radio broadcaster Brannon Howse insisted that the Quran threatens the very existence of America. Also on stage was Understanding the Threat founder John Guandolo, a disgraced former FBI agent, who decried the term jihad as a Muslim declaration of war on non-Muslims.
Actually, the Prophet Muhammad used the term to signify a spiritual war against infidels, including oneself — much like cleansing rituals in other religions to purge oneself of sin. But minuscule numbers of Muslims have twisted it into a war against everyone, leading to the murders of thousands in 9/11 and other terror scenarios.
Blowback against the group, stirred largely by the Southern Poverty Law Center’s “Hatewatch” declaration that the group’s sole purpose is to spew hatred, prompted venues in Green Bay and a Milwaukee suburb to cancel gatherings planned at hotels there because of the potential to escalate into violence….
Papa Whiskey says
“minuscule numbers of Muslims”?
Give me a break.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is absurd.
David says
Only a miniscule percentage, say,.0001% of muslims are terrorists. So that is 160,000. That is well enough!
Joe says
The polls typically put the number who would get physically violent at about 8%, and those who support the violence with money and collaboration at about 50%.
mortimer says
Joe, Dave has about the right number. 15% of Muslims self-identify as approving of a terrorist organization, but they are too cowardly to join one, though they will collaborate if they think they will not go to jail.
Very few Muslims believe in Islam so much that they are ready to die to show their faith.
gravenimage says
And even in the United States, a *majority* of Muslims want to see the imposition of Shari’ah law.
Battle says
Mike Tighe is an Islamo-nazi collaborator.
mortimer says
Virtue-signalling Mike Tighe, has no knowledge of the PRIMARY ISLAMIC SOURCE TEXTS, he doesn’t even know the NAMES of those texts (much less what is in them), and yet, preposterously, he presents himself as a SPONTANEOUS AUTHORITY on Islam … without any knowledge of Islam’s ESSENTIAL DOCTRINES such as AL WALAA WAL BARAA.
AL WALAA WAL BARAA is a COMPULSORY DOCTRINE for all Muslims … but rather than LEARN AL WALAA WAL BARAA, Mike Tighe would rather GUESS, SURMISE and SUPPOSE he knows something about Islam when he is totally unacquainted with THE BASICS of Islam.
Such a fraud should not be in journalism.
Norger says
Virtue signaling is exactly right. He lacks the basic intellectual honesty to conduct a modicum of objective research into what Islamic theology actually says, preferring instead to rely on feel good fairy tale bromides (e.g. “jihad” is primarily a spiritual struggle). Pathetic.
JawsV says
Tighe doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Niemoller says
Behold, Mike Tighe, the epitome of a modern traitor. How much are you getting paid by the Saudis, Mike? Or are you just so stupid that you commit treason for free, sort of an accidental, easily duped collaborator?
gravenimage says
He’s just stupid. Most of his other work is just about local issues around La Crosse–he understands nothing about Islam.
mummymovie says
Agreed.
Some pretty standard, ignorant, islamo-butt-smooching going on, in this case.
“A spiritual war against infidels” could only come from someone who is completely in the dark about the subject.
David says
Graven, he is not stupid. He knows what he doing.
mortimer says
Dave, he is not stupid, but I think he does NOT know what he is doing, because he ASSUMES (without having studied the matter) that ISLAM IS BENIGN.
Mike Tighe is making UNSTUDIED and UNREAD ASSUMPTIONS and SURMISALS about Islam.
HE DOES NOT KNOW ISLAM.
gravenimage says
David, I doubt it. I think he just assumes that those who oppose Islam are a bunch of mean old “Islamophaobes”. He appears to understand nothing aobut the actual threat of Islam. I know a lot of people like this.
DHazard says
A common response to a critic of Islam is the sarcastic, rhetorical question; “Oh, so you’re an expert on Islam. You know as much as an imam”. But when the same people prove how little they know about Islam by making a broad positive assessment of the religion, it doesn’t occur to them that they have never studied the religion. In fact, it demonstrates how little they even wish to learn about Islam. The only thing it does, and it’s sole purpose is to tell the world “I’m not a racist. I’m better than those guys”. So Mike Tighe and his ilk are ignorant hypocrites, more concerned about their public image than the truth. By helping mask the reality of Jihad they are complicit in the deaths of thousands of people. By defending Islam using lies, censorship and character assassination they show themselves to be the monsters that they ALWAYS project onto other people. They are a truly dangerous menace even though, as a species, they are spineless.
gravenimage says
He probably heard that Islam is a religion of peace from an Imam. Islamic clerics lie about this all the time.
WESTPAC Spy says
Considering that in Sunni Islam an Imam is just a prayer leader and no special training is required, and approximately 90% of Muslims worldwide, on average I know more than an Imam.
I wish I had the public forum to humiliate this guy. I hope the principals involved are able to reschedule, and invite this idiot to appear on state to be the subject of a viral video that he’ll never live down.
mortimer says
Westpac, after several years leading other Muslims, most of the MULLAHS come to realize that Islam is a FRAUD. They know all the ANOMALIES and it bothers them.
PRACTICALLY NO MULLAHS are SUICIDE BOMBERS or JIHADISTS.
If the people who BEST KNOW AND UNDERSTAND Islam do not COMMIT JIHAD-SUICIDE, then we can see that they KNOW ISLAM IS FALSE.
Julea Bacall says
I do believe it is a warlords manual for empire building using the people.
gravenimage says
With all respect, I think Mike Tighe needs to be educated, not humiliated.
JawsV says
graven, he probably prefers to reside in the “Islam is peace” La-La Land.
Julea Bacall says
So like Germany so deluded and so loyal to Hitler. I always wondered ‘how could they blindly, blissfully follow?’ but again today the same following without caring to check just what this thing is really made of. I didn’t think we were this way but here it is like a disney movie protecting the weapons of death to Americas future and misery for the next generations.. I do not know how to handle it but I feel I must do something to stop the ignorance.
Last time I talked to a Muslim from Egypt he said “we do not want Islam as it is in the MidEast because none of them do it right. Thats why we came here, so we could make Islam the right way”. But they cannot the way it is written. They just cannot make anything decent about it unless they admit Warlords added to it and try to take their instructions out. But no Muslim has that courage. I just wish we could hear more x-Muslims speaking up and in groups. Those need to be protected to get the word out.
b.a. freeman says
good point about ex-muslims, Julea. one problem with being an ex-muslim is that it’s all to easy to end up among the ex-living; they cannot be too cautious.
as to why this whole stupid story is playing out again, there’s a fairly straight-forward explanation. these folks assume that they are the first who have ever been in this position; they believe that what happened with nazi germany could *never* happen again. their problem is that they’re looking for *exactly* the same circumstances, and not seeing them, are convinced that “this is different.” also, lying leftists and lying pious muslims take advantage of the fact that civilized people expect others to be fairly honest, if potentially wrong, and are willing to give them a chance to speak. this is a Good Thing at base, but as i said, the hard-core left and lying muslims start by complaining about impositions by “haters” on muslims, and use vacuous slurs like “islamophobe” to silence attempts at defense by rational people who disagree with them. under ordinary circumstances, this wouldn’t work, since honest journalists and media would point out the fallacial thinking, but we are not living in rational times; instead, the hard left dominates media, journalism, and the academy, and unthinking people like mr. tighe, who are unschooled in critical thinking, simply parrot what the hard left’s thought leaders bark out. no honest journalist who understood fact checking would let this get by; mr. tighe is probably honest, but deluded.
finally, most people don’t go back to first principles when their beliefs are challenged. the whole idea about learning from other people is that one saves a *lot* of time if one accepts input from some sources without filters. when those sources are honest, one can get a lot done by leaning on the work of others, but if the sources are corrupt and lying, one steps on it big time. mr. tighe is stepping on it big time, and he now has blood on his hands.
Julea Bacall says
You seem to have a sane grip on the problem and I wonder if you might have some sane, do-able ideas for solutions.
mortimer says
DHazard writes that 2 common responses to a critic of Islam are 1) you are not an expert 2) you are a racist.
My answers:
1) I quote the A-1 top experts of Islam who teach and lead at Islam’s TOP institutions … they all concur with what I say about Islam… because I quote their own descriptions of Islamic doctrines verbatim.
2) Islam is VERY RACIST … Islam is racist to the core … Islam is Arab racism and Arab racial, political supremacism.
Julea Bacall says
Yes, but remember Iran is Islam too but Shia types (there are a few slighly different styles but all use the same Qur’an. And they are rabid Jew Haters because the Qur’an says they are cursed for not obeying Mohammed as the last prophet which places Islam as the only true religion allowed on earth. Iran today is very dangerous as well. Thats why their people were just protesting that they do not want a religious government. (but they were all Jailed or killed)
b.a. freeman says
*very* well put, DHazard!
VRWC member77 says
John Guandolo is excellent speaker. I wish more people were aware of what he does on the counter jihad stage. I know this site has been inundated with video links as of late so I’ll just leave the title of a very good video he recently put together called “When LYING Jihadis Speak Nicely” for anyone who may want to check it out.
He brought a very important point to my attention about not being lulled by the calm demeanor portrayed by a muslim speaker.
TL says
That calm demeanor is evidence that few or no people are getting under the skin of the Muslim speaker. The calmness is just what we ought to expect from Muslims who believe that it’s good to reject the West’s crude materialism, good to reject the Trinity hoax, good to reject the West’s childish pabulum about equality, and good to reject vulgarizing fetishes like democracy.
Since such a speaker may well believe also the theocracy of Islam, he or she will have the supreme confidence inspired by belief that divine law requires destruction of Islam’s enemies, that a god will intervene to assist the Muslim’s endeavours, that it’s not wrong per se to kill an infidel, and that people like Mike Tighe are not just amusing clowns but tools who will bring about an inevitable victory for the god and his believers.
Do you want to get under the skin of both Islamic bigots and clowns like Tighe? Preach a better religion, or at least one which is more seductive than Islam (but not horrendously erroroneous like democracy). Or just undermine some Muslims’ faith in a god before taunting the holdouts with reports of your success. Whisper into the Islamoloony’s ear some FUD about what can happen to his family when one or more of his children are disabused of the Islam. He’s still human and could be tormented with thoughts of the infidel child burning forever in Hell with Mike Tighe.
VRWC member77 says
I’m not necessarily a religious person in any regard. However, I was raised in a Judeo-Christian nation as are nearly 100% of the individuals I interact with on a daily basis. I believe that the Judeo-Christian society of the West is the best place for my future survival. I also don’t want any group of individuals who threaten that way of life in any way.
I don’t have the patience or desire to indulge various ways to deal with a sharia based ideology. People who practice Islam will never be my friends because it will never comport with my life in MY HOMELAND. Let the people coming into MY HOMELAND comport to our ideals much like the Iranian Jews, Nigerian Christians, Hindu Indians – to name a few – that I’ve become friends with in my life.
TL says
You’re missing the point. Also, Judaism says that π=3.0, not 3.14159…, as we know it to be. There are other problems too with Christianity. For example, Edwin Hubble’s work implies that the Ascension is impossible. We don’t live in Ptolemy’s cosmos, or anything like it. The foundation of Christianity is soft ground, at best, and it’s been disappearing from Europe and N. America, besides. In Europe and N. America, the best days of Christianity are in the past.
The West’s populist republicanism is another doomed religion. It has long been a pushy, plundering, militaristic gangster creed, but now it’s struggling to commit suicide, too. And many people in the West are recognizing it as rotten and withdrawing support from it. Democracy is another obvious fraud. No one ever established, or could establish, a democratic government through democratic means. (Any attempt to do so would presuppose what is at issue.) Immigrants would be crazy to assimilate to these ideals.
Want to save the West’s people from inundation by Islamic theocrats and other threats? Then someone must develop a plausible, compelling, alternative religion with some roots in Western philosophy and science and propagate the new religion among the peoples of the West. If not, the West will whither away, as it has in places in Europe where now we find Islamic colonies commonly referred to as no-go zones. Maybe the demise of the West would not be so bad, however. Any civilization which develops and fanatically spreads toxic stuff like democracy and Marxism is gravely defective and needs to be radically altered or abolished. Islam is a poor replacement, but at least you could say truthfully that Islam isn’t materialist (in the sense of matter being the primary reality or only reality) and that Islam is a child of Judeo-Christian society.
Lydia Church says
To TL,
No, Christianity is 100% true fact.
No problems at all with it.
YOU fail to see that miracles are part of it, because so is GOD.
In fact, that the whole universe is here is in itself a miracle!
But like so many, some minds have been hijacked away by much faulty reasoning and twisting of logic, all by faulty and finite human minds, who think they can comprehend the things of infinity and the universe and all that is within it.
What rot!
Go to Saudi Arabia and try your luck with that!
gravenimage says
More crap from TL:
You’re missing the point. Also, Judaism says that π=3.0, not 3.14159…, as we know it to be.
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The idea that Jews–including Jewish scientists like Einstein, one assumes–do not know what pi is is just ridiculous.
More:
There are other problems too with Christianity. For example, Edwin Hubble’s work implies that the Ascension is impossible. We don’t live in Ptolemy’s cosmos, or anything like it. The foundation of Christianity is soft ground, at best, and it’s been disappearing from Europe and N. America, besides. In Europe and N. America, the best days of Christianity are in the past.
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TL wants to see death of Christianity–he has said so here many times. He has never said any such thing regarding the horrors of Islam–very telling.
As for Ptolemy, those of us who respect science can admire the achievements of thinkers from the past for what they got right without assuming that new discoveries will not be made.
More:
The West’s populist republicanism is another doomed religion. It has long been a pushy, plundering, militaristic gangster creed, but now it’s struggling to commit suicide, too. And many people in the West are recognizing it as rotten and withdrawing support from it. Democracy is another obvious fraud. No one ever established, or could establish, a democratic government through democratic means. (Any attempt to do so would presuppose what is at issue.) Immigrants would be crazy to assimilate to these ideals.
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Never mind that democracy has created the freest and richest societies and human history–TL wants these things crushed.
More:
Want to save the West’s people from inundation by Islamic theocrats and other threats? Then someone must develop a plausible, compelling, alternative religion with some roots in Western philosophy and science and propagate the new religion among the peoples of the West. If not, the West will whither away, as it has in places in Europe where now we find Islamic colonies commonly referred to as no-go zones.
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Of course, the West has long stood against Islam. That she is not consitently doing so now has more to do with “political correctness” and denial over the threat of Islam than it does to democracy, as TL pretends.
More:
Maybe the demise of the West would not be so bad, however.
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This should not surprise. TL has made his withering disdain for free Westerners abundantly clear here many times. *Ugh*.
More:
Any civilization which develops and fanatically spreads toxic stuff like democracy and Marxism is gravely defective and needs to be radically altered or abolished.
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Of course, Marxism has never really been accepted in the West, as TL pretends. Russia, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, and North Korea are not the West.
And he has made it clear how much he hates democracy and freedom.
We all know how he’d like to see it “radically altered”.
More:
Islam is a poor replacement, but at least you could say truthfully that Islam isn’t materialist (in the sense of matter being the primary reality or only reality) and that Islam is a child of Judeo-Christian society.
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Of course, this last is grotesque–only Muslims and Muslim sympathizers claim that Islam is one of the “three Abrahimic faiths”. Muhammed plagerized Jewish and Christian stories and characters in the most superficial manner, but then rejected the entire moral underpinnings of these faiths, instead adopting the creed of Arab warlords and caravan raiders.
And claiming that Islam “isn’t materialistic” could not be more grotesque–it is a creed that sacralizes the robbery, rape, and enslavemnt of unbelievers. It demands that Infidels support Muslims though tribute, Jizya, and slavery.
Its very paradise is one of eating, drinking, being served by slaves, and enlessly raping virgin women and boys. This is entiely materialistic, and in the ugliest manner possible.
And notice–while it is not his ideal–that would be the resurgence of Fascism–he would still prefer that Muslims conquered us and imposed brutal Shari’ah law on us over our remaining democratic and free. *Ugh*.
Wellington says
“No one ever established. or could establish, a democratic government through democratic means.”
Wrong. The ancient Athenians did precisely this by way of Cleisthenes’ reforms at the end of the sixth century B.C., following up on Solon’s reforms almost a century earlier which brought some democratic elements into Athenian government (and with the tyranny of Peisistratus and his sons as an interlude). The Founding Fathers of America also established a democratic government, specifically a democratic republic which was a representative democracy as opposed to the pure democracy of ancient Athens, by democratic means. There are other examples I could provide but two are enough to prove your thesis incorrect. You got other things wrong too, e.g., calling both democracy and Marxism “toxic” when, in fact, only the latter is, but I felt most compelled to refute your contention about democracy never being established through democratic means.
gravenimage says
Good post, Wellington.
David says
The Free West has no need or desire for the strictures of Islam. It has absolutely nothing good to offer, only a life of misery and submission.
PRCS says
“Islamic theocrats”
As every one of them is a Muslim, IMO, they should be called:
Muslim theocrats.
gravenimage says
Lots of good replies to the ugly TL.
Mark Swan says
Yes gravenimage, thank you for shining some light on him.
gravenimage says
Vile Fascist TL wrote:
That calm demeanor is evidence that few or no people are getting under the skin of the Muslim speaker. The calmness is just what we ought to expect from Muslims who believe that it’s good to reject the West’s crude materialism, good to reject the Trinity hoax, good to reject the West’s childish pabulum about equality, and good to reject vulgarizing fetishes like democracy.
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Ah, yes–the creed that preaches kidnapping, piracy, Jizya, and slavery “rejects crude materialism”. Try again, creep.
And it is not just that Muslims reject the concept of the Trinity, but that they slaughter Christians over it. TL has no problem with this.
And then–Fascist that he is, in the very literal sense–TL sneers at civilized concepts like democracy and equality.
Note that he has *no* criticism for the horrors of Islam here–but then, why would he?
Also, the idea that all Muslim speakers are calm could not be more absurd–these are just the superficially “moderate” Muslims. Many of them reguarly froth at the mouth and threaten Infidels with violence, as TL no doubt well knows.
More:
Since such a speaker may well believe also the theocracy of Islam, he or she will have the supreme confidence inspired by belief that divine law requires destruction of Islam’s enemies, that a god will intervene to assist the Muslim’s endeavours, that it’s not wrong per se to kill an infidel, and that people like Mike Tighe are not just amusing clowns but tools who will bring about an inevitable victory for the god and his believers.
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Muslims will use the values of the West to destroy us. We don’t have to let them do this.
More:
Do you want to get under the skin of both Islamic bigots and clowns like Tighe? Preach a better religion, or at least one which is more seductive than Islam (but not horrendously erroroneous like democracy).
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The appalling TL has done this before–said it is the fault of Christians and Jews and those who support democracy that Muslims still adhere to their vicious creed. What rot.
What “better religion” does he have in mind? Given his past postings here, it probably has to do with the beliefs of his idol Hitler.
Wellington says
Good post, gravenimage.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Wellington.
b.a. freeman says
interesting, TL; U don’t like either deomocracies or republics, so how do U think people *should* be governed?
Julea Bacall says
Wouldn’t it be better if several xMuslims were to be speakers WITH Protection. They make more of an impact on me. Would they be in such danger here at this time? Just to get it started.
b.a. freeman says
yes, Julea, they *would* be in danger. were i one of them, i would refuse to speak unless i were behind a shield of bullet-proof glass, or better yet, in front of a camera from a remote site. the State makes *zero* effort to protect ex-muslims or, for that matter, *anybody* who speaks against islam. against overwhelming evidence that islam is a gangsta cult that hunts down and kills its opponents, just like the mafia does, the State chooses to ignore islam and its adherents as if they were hindus, or atheists, or adherents of any non-muslim religion, and is amazed when a pious muslim kills somebody. as an interesting aside, the mafia originated mostly in sicily, which suffered muslim rule from about 902 to 1061 – just long enough for the locals to learn criminal behavior from the masters.
TL says
“Have you noticed that I keep writing the same things over and over again?”
Yes. I’ve noticed also that you have failed to learn much from the experience. I would conclude otherwise if your behavior indicated a great change of strategy and tactics, but none is discernible at my distance.
So what’s the problem? Sooner or later we’ll need to declare you insane, according to the cliché attributed to Albert Einstein, and then to forget all about Jihad Watch.
VRWC member77 says
Albert Enstein has been proven within the last 10 years or so within the scientific community to be a fraud, most specifically about his Special and General relativity theories………just say’n.
No Fear says
I would rather have peer-reviewed Einstein than gangster prophet Mohammed. 🙂
TL says
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/04/la-crosse-tribunes-mike-tighe-crows-over-cancellation-of-counterjihad-event-says-jihad-is-spiritual-war#comment-1880941
VRWC member77 says
Guess I really struck a nerve there eh TL? My comment still stands. Copying and pasting some random nonsense doesn’t counter anything I just said. Try and be cogent and intelligible.
BTW, Einstein married his 1st cousin. You know what other group marries there 1st cousins? Pakistani muslims. Is that a coincidental link of creepiness?……just a thought.
TL says
I copied nothing. Wrote it all myself.
Your comments show that you can’t, or won’t, follow even a simple argument. Earlier I was referring, of course, to the saying that insanity is doing the same thing over while expecting different results. It’s a helpful rule of thumb whether Einstein wrote it or not, and Spencer shows signs of refusing to learn from failed tactics.
Try to follow along, now: Einstein’s choice of spouse hasn’t any bearing on whether or not the saying is good guidance. Or whether STR and GTR are true. To pretend that it does amounts to subjectivizing truth. Likewise, it does not matter that Einstein was a communist. Even a communist can learn a great deal of mathematics and physics. So your “thought” about the cousin is a red herring. This puts you in company with leftists, who are notorious for introducing distractions when they haven’t a leg to stand on.
VRWC member77 says
What’s Your “argument”????……Einstein was a FRAUD –> His Special Relativity Theory was based on human observation and a fudge factor in his equation which HE ADMITTED in later years of his life could not be explained through classic Newtonian Physics…….Newtonian Physics which have been experimentally proven and something that Einstein’s Special Relativity theory WASN’T. His General theory was just that….a theory that was NEVER PROVEN. Einstein was a self promoter who made himself bigger and more significant than he actually was. Do you really want to get into the details of why his dilation theory was a fudge factor joke on this site? Have at it.
When he married his cousin it just showed he was a pervert…kinda like muhammud. Being a pervert doesn’t necessarily undermine his intellect but it sure questions his character………just say’n
So tell us all what magnificent new tactic idea you have for Robert…………..
Keys says
Insane.
TL, your comments remind me of the famous light-hearted “God is Dead” fella, Friedrich Nietzsche.
gravenimage says
I see that the appalling TL is declaring Robert Spencer and Jihad Watch a failure for daring to point out the horrors of Islam and the foolish dhimmitude in so much of the West.
But he claims he has the answer in this “new religion” he claims needs to be preached. After being called out on it so many times, he is now too afraid to say that he is talking about Fascism. Besides its being as horrific as Islam, there is nothing new about Fascism.
Julea Bacall says
I do not think you understand Democracy WITH a Constitution. It is not mob rule or even majority if it does not conform to the constitution. That is most important. Have you ever read it with the bill of rights, by the way?
gravenimage says
TL *hates* the Constitution.
somehistory says
Evidently, he is a moslim as he accepts the raper of children, the murderer of innocent people and the enslaver of others as a “prophet.” And all those knowledgeable about islam and those who practice it, realize that lies are what keeps the beast and its worshippers all alive and lusting for death.
gravenimage says
There is no reason to think that Mike Tighe is Muslim–he is pretty much the very definition of a clueless dhimmi.
Good to see you posting again, somehistory–hope you are well.
John Hawk says
And why is a “journalist” applauding the fascist suppression of free discourse?
This pretty much sums up the modern media and “progressive” Left. Once upon a time, liberals — and journalists in particular — were vehement defenders of the First Amendment, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press. Today’s Leftists have more in common with Ernst Rohm and the Nazi Stormtroopers than with James Madison and the U.S. Constitution.
Julea Bacall says
But there is hate speech and Islam is the biggest example with nazis and White supremacists. They are all unconstitutional and threaten our democracy with the Constitution, not mention the lives of other people. Reading the Qur’an in mosques is the worst. We should not have it or teach it to children. Thats just fact.
Julea Bacall says
It is not what ‘free speech’ means at all and there are several boundaries to it that people can look up.
Sons of Liberty says
Mike Tighe must have graduated from the Barack Hussein Obama school of History and Journalism . How someone so uninformed about world history could even think to comment on the BLOODY history of Islam . I think he needs a face to face interview with Abu Bakr Al Bagdadi who could seriously SCHOOL him in what Muhammad meant by….” FIGHT the unbelievers ” . I don’t think Mike Tighe would make the return flight back home to Wisconsin !
b.a. freeman says
well, it might just take more than one flight; they might send his head in one box and his body in another – just to spread terror among the infidels. not that what would be in either box would be recognizable – again, to enhance terror.
rubiconcrest says
Papers that publish junk opinions like this will eventually go out of business which might be a bad thing for the rest of the staff when all they really need to do is let one guy go.
Wellington says
Tighe is, at best, a colossal fool. And just imagine what this turkey really knows about Islam.
Off the top of his head could he name a single major school of Islamic theology, Sunni or Shiite? Could he tell us what “muruna” or “kitman” mean? Could he even distinguish between “sura” and “sira?” And wonder how he would deal with a first-hand account of growing up with Islam, for instance Wafa Sultan’s, “A God Who Hates.” Perhaps he’d “pull a Joe Biden” and tell Sultan, if he met her, as when Biden did to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, “Let me tell you something about Islam.”
Yeah, I highly suspect he’s this arrogant, stupid and uninformed. A turkey all around. Surely.
Keys says
He, Mike Tighe, fits the bill for an ignorant, arrogant, collosal fool, Wellington.
Ignorant & Arrogant: “Actually, the Prophet Muhammad used the term [jihad] to signify a spiritual war against infidels … “ [without proof of this or a source footnote, who knows where he got this – probably his internal liberal agenda]
Arrogant by the Title of his column: “Mike Tighe: Anti-Muslim ranters aren’t welcome here” [Did Allah appoint him in charge of welcoming all people to LaCrosse, WI ?]
He is getting lots of angry responses. JW readers can click on the newspaper, LaCrosse Tribune, link above and register an angry face.
Fool, he confuses truth with hate:
“To reach the point where we can all get along, we need to turn even the title of this vile group upside-down and recast it as Understand the Threat of Hate in all forms.”
Can’t we all just get along ?! (Sarc)
gravenimage says
+1
Westman says
Come on Mike Tighe,
Do the Jihad Twist.
Come on Mikey,
Do the Jihad Twist.
Take SPLC’s list in hand,
And twist left grand.
Come on, SPLC,
Do the Jihad Twist.
Government is sleepin’,
and Hoover ain’t around.
You’re gonna twisty, twisty, twisty,
To tear America down.
Bob says
Hmmm… A self proclaimed “reporter” and journalist, who appears to be anti-First Amendment, and against the exercise of “Free Speech”..
Mr. Tighe would also appear to buy into the argument, that this is somehow a national debate relating to, and a course study of, the “Comparative Religions of the World”, instead of what it actually is.
…A barbaric, and brutal, global geo-political movement, masquerading as a ‘religion’ of peace?…and hiding behind OUR U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights for cover and protection, while they clearly engage in their form of warfare against anyone else but them.
Since Islam translates to “SUBMISSION” and that is exactly what they mean to accomplish; by persuasion and conversion, or, the Jizya (tax), or, by the sword, one might ask Mr. Tighe, just which one of those three choices he intends to embrace..
In any event, he truly believes that victory is achieved by he, and other grand thinkers of our time, by condoning, and actually praising, an organized effort of threats of “protest” and “violence”, by ANTIFA (who really are the “brown-shirts” of our day), the SPLC (a critic and radical leftist group attacking anyone who is not in agreement with them), and CAIR (The unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation support of terrorist trial), by shutting down the exercise of “Free Speech” in America.
So, who is Mr. Tighe?
Well, after reading his genius put to print relating to this sad chapter in American history, he would appear to be a kissing cousin of Mao, Adolph H., Mussolini, the team of Stalin and Lenin, the Castro boys, Hugo Chavez, and the like. …As Lenin himself referred to..
A useful idiot”..
And, how about the WWII unholy alliance between Hitler’s Nazi’s and the Grand Mufti? My point? THIS has been going on for a very long time. Wasn’t a history course offered when you (Mike) were attending journalism school?
Perhaps PRAVDA would be a better place for this brand of “journalism..
Funny…None of the conferences, hosted by CAIR, or their minions as referenced above, come under such criticism, organized threats of protest, violence, or attack against the hotels, the presenters, and the attendees.. I wonder why?…or, better yet, why not?
If they did, my guess is that Mr. Tighe, would be the first person to cry foul..
…A Question for Mike:
Please show me anywhere on the entire planet, where this “social justice” driven mass migration, and clash of incompatible “cultures”, refusing to assimilate, has worked well. Stated differently, please show me where this experiment in the group hug (COEXIST) relating to this particular “culture” has not worked out badly for ANY indigenous population or country, where it has been tried and failed? ..Present day… Sweden? UK? Germany? France? ANYWHERE?
Maybe we can ask the woman in Seattle who was stabbed 23 times by her Syrian born husband (an attempted “Honor Killing”) (over 2,400 committed each year in the U.S.), in front of her children. …Or, 26 year old, Morgan Evanson, who was stabbed 14 times last December in the Uptown area of Minneapolis, while walking home from work. Then there is the recent threat of bombing the City Hall building in St Cloud MN recently, where the city council has recently declared the city of St. Cloud, to be “A Welcoming & Just Community”. Or, how about the failed attempt to rape a female MCTC student in the on-campus women’s room in Minneapolis. How about serial rape of children, as young as 4 years of age? I could provide 50 more examples, just in Minnesota alone, of sick and twisted violent acts and killings, and only in the last 2 years alone Mike.. There just is not enough time, nor enough ink, to fully cover all these barbaric acts of culturally baked in violence and mayhem. And, not one word of condemnation from ATIFA, CAIR, or the SPLC…or you.. Not one..
And, how about the 10th century practice of “female genital mutilation”, going on right now, and right here under our noses. The SPLC WILL NOT EVEN CONDEMN THAT DISGUSTING AND NIGHTMARISH PRACTICE, committed routinely by the culture of enlightenment..
But, by all means, let us celebrate shutting down the “Understanding The Threat” conference, with threats of “violent protest and violence” against attendees…and people just like me…
TL says
STR is false? Oh really? Because Poincaré beat Einstein, by several years, to the publishers with an equation implying E=mc²?
Try again. Be creative. Show that Galilean relativity really is absolutely correct no matter what velocity or acceleration may be. Take a shot at the claim, not first made by Einstein, that c=1/√((ε_0)(μ_0)) in vacuum for all observers, whatever their state of motion. Show that Rømer’s earlier work was all wrong, that he never demonstrated that light travels at finite sped from Jupiter to Earth. Or show that it’s not true that the laws of physics are the same in all inertial reference frames. If you can knock down any of these, you will earn a Nobel prize in Physics. Then you will have the financial freedom to move on to the really, really big conquest: Refuting a² + b² = c². Believe it or not, this famous equation is relevant to STR, esp. to derivation of something called γ.
Julea Bacall says
It only works on earth.
gravenimage says
La Crosse Tribune’s Mike Tighe crows over cancellation of counterjihad event, says jihad is spiritual war
………………………..
Ah…right. 9/11 was “spiritual Jihad”. Ft. Hood was “spiritual Jihad”. The attacks on Mumbai were “spiritual Jihad”. The London Tube bombings were “spiritual Jihad”. The beheading of Lee Rigby was “spiritual Jihad”. The Boston Marathon bombing was “spiritual Jihad”. The Paris attacks were “spiritual Jihad”. San Bernardino was “spiritual Jihad”. Orlando was “spiritual Jihad”…
All 32,000+ bloody Jihad terror attacks were just “spiritual”…sarc/off
VRWC member77 says
Hello graven,’
Hope all is well. I see you have been fighting the good fight and fighting it well. I was wondering if you could tell me who “TL” is and what his/her game is on this platform. I’m asking you because I think I saw you engage this person a few months back. If you don’t know then it’s no big deal.
Cheers!
gravenimage says
Hi, VRWC member77–thank you for your kind words.
TL has posted this sort of claptap many times here, blaming Westerners, especially Christians, for the continued existance of Islam. He *hates* Christianity, calling it “Trinitarianism”, just as Muslims do.
I am not just throwing around insults when I refer to TL as a Fascist–that is *exactly* what he has posited here in the past, demanding that we jettison freedom and democracy in favor of totalitarianism.
He got shot down so often in the past over this that it now appears that he is coy about saying exactly what he means. But that is exactly what he is referring to with his vague mentions of a “new religion”.
He hates the free West so much that he would even prefer to see us conquered by Muslims than to remain free democracies, as he implies above.
TL is a *very* nasty piece of work, and no Anti-Jihadist.
Hope that you are doing well.
VRWC member77 says
Yeah, I’m starting to see that he’s a real nihilistic piece of work.
Thanks graven
gravenimage says
Thank you, VRWC member77.
Indiana Tom says
There are days of which I wonder who is worse; the Muslim radicals or the Leftist Apologists and Traitors?
The Muslims are at least identifiable, the Progtard Apologists not so much.
Keys says
Mike needs a one year assignment in Saudi Arabia, then on to Pakistan for another year.
If his newspaper would sponser his trip, kind of like Samuel Clemens trip to the Holy Land sponsored by a newspaper, then Mike could become our national wit , or nit-wit.
His travelogue book could be “The Ignorants Abroad”.
b.a. freeman says
thank U for a *great* belly laugh, Keys! i snickered at the first paragraph, laughed out loud at the second, and rotfl by the third!
gravenimage says
+1
Keys says
Thanks, b.a. freeman and gi.
Janwaar Bibi says
The motto of the Pakistani army is “jihad fi sabillilah” which is a Koranic phrase that means “Jihad in the cause of Allah.” No doubt this is because they are engaged in spiritual struggle.
gravenimage says
Grimly hilarious.
Mark Swan says
Good One Janwaar Bibi.
Japetto Danatelli says
This “reporter” talks like a tobacco spittin’ farm boy who’s been kicked in the head by a mule. That’s right mike, golly-gee gosh darn, you sure did dodge a bullet this time! Why, if the good people of Wisconsin go and let people start talking the truth there’s going to be some real hurt feelings sure as shootin’. It’s best we just ignore all that terrorism and hate for religion and mind our own business, that’s what old mike would have us do.
I gotta wonder if this clown has any idea how idiotic he sounds, talking about “ a vile misuse of the First Amendment.” So what is islam then, a beacon for freedom of expression? It’s unfathomable to me how an alleged educated man can be so unabashed with their own stupidity. Islam is the epitome of free speech abuse and the ultimate example of brutality for religious bigotry. But if a peaceful man or woman wants to offer an educated opinion about it then they’re a hateful misanthrope that needs to be run out of town. It makes me wonder, does the news media have any concern at all for the wholesale murder and suffering this phony-baloney religion causes? do they care at all about raped kids or the genocidal persecution of Christians and other “infidels” for islamic bigotry? Are they at all concerned about the loss of freedom that’s taking place because of islamic violence and intimidation? What is it that compels such a betrayal of our constitutional ideals by people who have enjoyed for life time the democratic blessings it has produced? It makes me angry but it also makes me sad to hear this mike guy talk so cavalier and hollow about a subject that should arouse the deepest, most soulful concern. Yep, you’re right, mike! That sure was a close one, whew! You dodged a bullet! but you’re too dumb to see the land mine under our feet. The whole world seems to know what old mike doesn’t, that islam is the greatest threat to peace and freedom in the western world. You’re wrong mike, you didn’t dodge a bullet, you are the bullet. You talk like a journalistic fraud without a heart. Thanks for doing your little part to make the world a worse place to be.
Granddaddy says
It boggles my mind sometimes when I see how some people (Tighe in this case) use their influence to spout nonsense — and not just nonsense, but dangerous nonsense — when all their audience has to do is read the Quran and they would immediately know he’s not telling the truth. Jihad is spiritual war? Even he must get the feeling that something just isn’t right about that.
Mark Swan says
There are far too many people who do not realize that the very qualities of life here
are taken for granted—these qualities are being exchanged for other qualities.
Our ways, once the envy of the world are being more than diluted, they are being replaced with ways that would not be recognizable to past generations. Our ways were what has allowed us to be unique, strong and free to live in peace.
Do we throw fits, stop our ears and attack those we can not agree with—no we get that treatment from those who hate our ways still existing.
These swells that smirk at anti-socials attacking free speech, they feel confident that it is all in the bag—but they can not imagine what it would be like to try and rule over a free people who are determined to live their lives in ways that allow live and let live, with dignity for all.
This mindless attack on our right to free public discourse is not American, it is not our
way.
gravenimage says
Good post, Mark.
Mark Swan says
Thank You gravenimage.
tedh754 says
Right after 9/11 CAIR spokesman Ibraham Hooper was on Hannity’s radio show saying that the 19 terrorists didn’t understand the Koran correctly and said to do so required that one read Arabic. The 19 were all Arabs I believe. What a liar. I guess it is that type of lying to fool the infidels.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
In case Mr Mike Tighe reads these comments, I would like to introduce him to Cliford’s Principle. It reads something like this:
“It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone to believe anything upon insufficient evidence.”
You would think that a person who fancies themselves a journalist would follow such a precept, not for moral reasons but simply to get things right. And certainly more so before committing those beliefs to paper and having them published. Apparently not.
And debates: a way of getting to the truth by listening (and opening one’s mind) to opposites sides of an argument. Ever heard of that Mr Tighe? Apparently not.
ArcadiaP says
I see TL gets a lot of reaction from his posts but I feel you are taking his bait and he is not worthy of your elegant responses for he fails to recognize the obvious. Proverbs quotes many verses regarding the fool and it is a waste to spend your time on him/her.
gravenimage says
Hi, Arcadia. I am not really replying to TL directly, and I don’t expect him to change.
I also don’t want readers here to assume that this kind of fascism is accepted at Jihad Watch or is indicative of the views of posters here.
Mark Swan says
Absolutely gravenimage—what you have done here was needed, and appreciated.
elee says
There were Britons who sympathized with Hitler in 1933. 1934 too.
Here’s hoping this dhimmi wakes up before 1939.
mortimer says
EDUCATING MR. TIGHE about JIHAD …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N6PgaMvLlM
JawsV says
Teaching Mr. Tighe!
mortimer says
EDUCATING MR. TIGHE … Sharia and why Muslims should hate the kafir …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOWsQ9dM3NI
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
I love Dr Bill Warner. Concise and to the point. Facts and numbers.
David says
Is this inbreeding causing a degeneration of muslims? It seems to be taking a long time: too long.
mortimer says
EDUCATING MR. TIGHE … TOUGH QUESTIONS to ask Muslims …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlDv-_vU88A
gravenimage says
Thanks for the links, Mortimer.
brane pilot says
Telling unpleasant Truths is a ‘misuse of the First Amendment’.
Think about that for a minute.
If someone can dictate to you what constitutes a ‘misuse’ of your Constitutional rights, then you have no Constitutional rights.
This is an Orwellian flanking maneuver of the AntiFa / Left that places the entire Constitution at risk.
gravenimage says
So true.
Norger says
Excellent point. Whoever gets to decide what speech constitutes “misuse” of the First Amendment gets to obliterate free speech. That’s why these little exercises in morally superior self-congratulation like Mr. Tighe’s article (“we really dodged a bullet”) are so dangerous.
If Mr. Tighe is so convinced that he is right then why is he so afraid of actually engaging on a substantive level with those who disagree with him? It’s because he has no substantive response. All he has is ad hominem attacks (those who criticize Islam are “hate mongers”).
Don Corrigan says
That “journalist” fool thinks muslims buy newspapers or read them. If a paper is stolen someone loses. If an advertiser pays for an ad in a paper and it is not read someone made a bad investment.
Next, the mainstream media will be pleading for gov’t money because advertisers have moved their money to other methods and the public will hold the mainstream media in disdain and distrust.. Bye Bye biased media.
gravenimage says
I think this was more aimed at virtue-signalling tools than at Muslims themselves.
Terra Nova says
Julea Bacall, I really would like to know, what you answered that Muslim from Egypte, when he said that
Islam was not allright in the Middle East or Egypt, and he said: “That is why we came over here, to make it right”
That really got to me. Have them make it right in their own countries, but that they never had the courage for, so they came here to profit from us and make it right. Don’t make me laugh, we were really waiting for them to make it right here !!!. And right they made it!!!. But I am curious if you answered him and what you said.
gravenimage says
“Making it right” probably means a full Shari’ah state.
Julea Bacall says
We were at an ACT organized nationwide protest, which was not huge in Silicon Valley. I crossed the street to talk to a group so it was loud & different groups on three corners at stop lights. (ACT type, also baby Antifa with some liberal types and then the Sunni Muslims. We talked for awhile but then I told him I thought there was a lot to change but if he wanted to go the Muslim Bros style, it was no good. He said NO One has made Islam the right way. I said, isn’t that what all the sects and schools say before they go off but use the Qur’an? Then some Muslima came up and wanted to take a pic of my sign for human ‘rights for women’ no Religion in Gov. whatever I had & do not really remember. After that I wanted to talk more to the Egyptian guy and his 20 yr old son who was born here, but across the street where i had come from,some Lady who said she was a ‘patriot’, ran up to some baby fake ANTIFA and pulled the mask off him and he pushed her down so there was a big crowd moved in between them. Every thing shifted and I went back across the street.
Keys says
Thanks, Julea Bacall.
“He said NO One has made Islam the right way.”
Yep, after 1400 years it is not right, and can never be right.
BTW, where did his sense of “right”, and wrong, come from if not from some form of Islam ?
WPM says
In my opinion it can not be made right anyone who ties to change Islam would be a blasphemer who faces a death sentence. Islam according to the Koran is perfect and cannot be changed how can you change what,s perfect, and according to the Koran if you do you are a blasphemer who deserves death. The only way to make Islam right is to leave it ,if you move to the West you are more free to leave it .You can ask this person who said they move to the west they would” change” Islam if they made any of there “ideas “known to the local Imam ,or would they publish their ideas publicly on why or how they could change Islam ? I think you would get a blank stare from the person saying this then they would say how could you understand you are not a Moslem. If you quote any passages from the Koran ,they would say they are out of contested ,if you went further with your knowledge they start circling speaking. It all one big charade that you can reform Islam, a myth ,the unicorn of progressive thinking all religions are good and equal ,some bad ideas are not acceptable ,Islam is a large collection of bad ideas that all must submit to Moslem and non-Moslem to satisfy a slave master god allah.
WPM says
all must submit to Islam ,Moslem and non-Moslem ,to the slave master god allah
Julea Bacall says
They could get around it by taking out all the human warlord statements added and many scholars know they were added I wish the whole thing down the toilet but Humans cannot just let go of religions all at once without going crazy, falling into chaos, feeling so guilty that secretly god is going to get them or some devil will. It is not practical or possible just to tell people to dump it. But they could take out all, even Mohammeds life and put only what seems to be ‘Jibral’s’ message. Not the lifestyle, not companions, not later scholars. It would be a very short book like love Allah, be good, care for earth, share and make peace.
gravenimage says
I doubt those Muslims were really talking about reforming Islam.
Julea Bacall says
They were not, of course because some leaders of Muslim countries have to do it and enforce it. Kind of like al Sisi outlawed MB and puts them in prison but it would take a few generations and He himself is still Muslim of some weird kind. He did Warn that Muslims who think they can fight the world for a global caliphate are deluded. He wanted al Azhar to make some changes but they said no. Still if Saudi could get the Arab league to force change…..if he is somehow pressured to take out all the Human passages, Stressing that they are the HUMAN ADDED passages, it could help for our great grand children at least or with time, past our life time, there will be BIG trouble for people.
The only other thing that could work is for USA not to allow it and What are the Actual Chances of that. Maybe get some courts to absolutely prohibit parts of the Qur’an/Hadiths here to make it impossible for them to practice as they want to.(Hoping they go somewhere else) I am trying to think real solutions and not just talking the problem forever.
Julea Bacall says
Agree, but what is a practical real way to do it? Take over the world and do as Chinese used to do like stick chop sticks in people ears who listened to the stuff. Or just kill them? For real, what is a practical DOABLE answer.
Asally says
The one who is “disgraced” is Mike Tighe. What a pathetic excuse for an American. This is no surprise, though, given what our schools of journalism have been up to in the last several decades. This is part of the takeover of the Left of our schools and our colleges and universities. It has been a highly effective, long-range plan. If you doubt it just look around you – at every one-horse town newspaper or national news outlet. You will see their handiwork. In my small city, we had a speaker who packed a local venue. His detractors shuffled around with signs protesting – shamefully including Catholic priests and nuns and Protestant clergy right along with the Muslim Students Association, CAIR and the college professors. The speaker called for any Muslims in the audience to feel free to come up to dispute anything he had said. None admitted to being present – probably true. They were wandering about the street with signs and attempting to intimidate others and deter them from coming inside to hear. I wrote a letter to the newspaper, basically saying it was too bad these people had not been in the room to take issue with the speaker, as the whole audience was there to learn. The paper refused to print it. I asked why. There were no racial or cultural slurs, no misrepresentation of any facts. Well, it was because they didn’t approve of the “tone”. My “tone”, they claimed was “xenophobic” and “bigoted”. For simply regretting the absence of any who disagreed with the speaker??! So, just expect this to continue and get worse. My experience was about 3 years ago, and it just gets worse all the time. It is one reason why newspapers are going out of business. Take a look at your local hometown paper. I’ll bet it is significantly smaller than it was 10 years ago! Staff has been cut – no one buys the paper. It is too bad. Our newspapers used to be a great communication institution, but no longer.
WPM says
The newspapers are being run by cowards ,or people who have bought into and are doubling down on “progressive ideas “.The last 40 years we as Americans have been told we should be ashamed for sins our great great grandfather committed .We should not look at the great sins Islam perform in the name of their god today in every corner of the world today. How Islam as a core belief is based on violence and submission . . Is a long story that has not changed in 1400 years. The three chooses for non -Moslems, convert, or pay the jizya into becoming a dhimmi third class person , or be killed.
mortimer says
Mike Tighe defends the indefensible … Islam has too many problems for a truly modern person to consider Islam acceptable in a modern society.
Mr. Tighe please analyze SOME OF THE FOLLOWING PROBLEMS IN ISLAM… are they acceptable to you?
1 No Golden Rule 2 No free speech 3 No democracy 4 Jihad – holy war of supremacism 5 Honour killings 6 Taqiyya – sacred lying 7 Taqlid – group think 8 Circular reasoning 9 Misogyny – repression of women 10 Rape of kafirs as jihad prizes 11 Genocide 12 Ethnic cleansing 13 Al-Walaa wal-Baraa – Islamic apartheid 14 Torture 15 Plundering 16 Cruel and unusual punishments 16 Backwardness – stagnation 17 Violence against women 18 Slavery 19 Discriminatory Sharia law 20 Hatred of the arts 21 No music 22 Pedophilia disguised as child marriage 23 Fifty generations of cousin marriage and genetic defects 24 Cruelty to animals 25 Extortion tax to humiliate disbelievers 26 No historic basis 27 Anti-intellectual obscurantism 28 FGM 29 Arab racism 30 Theocratic totalitarianism 31 Vigilantism 32 Amoral, opportunistic character of Mohammed that all Muslims must imitate 33 Hatred of non-Muslims as an essential doctrine 34 History of Islam includes the genocidal murders of 270 million non-Muslims in Islamic holy wars, terrorism, persecutions and enslavement directed against non-Muslims.
gravenimage says
I doubt Tighe understands any of this, Mortimer.
JM says
TL pontificates that Islam has the virtue of not being materialistic. So perhaps Muhammad keeping 25 percent of the booty from raiding caravans for himself was actually a sign of charity. After all, being all-wise, Muhammad would know better how to spend the blood money than would his ignorant band of merry cutthroats who relied on him for counsel.
And Muhammad permitting himself to take more wives than his followers, like so much chattel, and taking countless sex slaves, was a selfless act of public service. One must keep in mind that Muhammad was a prince among men, and any woman would throw herself at his feet.
gravenimage says
Very true, JM.
cjk says
I don’t think this creep really cares about it all. I think he’s just saying what he’s been told to say.
b.a. freeman says
well, mr. tighe is right about the “greater jihad” hadith, but what he doesn’t say is that it’s a maudu hadith with a maudu isnad. the ulema rejects it as bogus!
what an idiot. he proudly displays his ignorance of the criminal cult he defends, and thinks that he is a hero. it’s as if an arsonist rushed up to a housefire and began pumping gasoline onto it, thinking he’s going to rescue the trapped people within; instead, he is sealing their doom, and their blood is on his hands.
what’s it like to be complicit in murder, mike “a**hole” tighe?
gravenimage says
True about that Hadith.
Politicianophobia says
I recently spoke with a couple of reporters regarding Islam–I do not believe one had a clue of what I was talking about and the other one seemed to agree with me. I told them both I could not be a collaborator or part of the fake news. The one, who seemed clueless and had a lot to say about nothing, laughed, the other one did not.
JawsV says
Tighe is as much an imbecile about Islam as the Washington Post reporters. Leftists all. The Islam-lovers!