We are much more enlightened in the West. We don’t jail people for insulting Islam. We simply excoriate them as “racists” and “Islamophobes,” and ostracize them from polite society. We are much more advanced in the West.
“Indonesian man jailed for Facebook post allegedly insulting Islam,” Ary News, April 30, 2018:
JAKARTA: An Indonesian was jailed for five years Monday for a Facebook post deemed offensive to Islam, his lawyer said, the latest conviction under the country’s controversial electronic information law.
Alnoldy Bahari, 39, was found guilty of spreading hate speech for a post in which he claimed to have experienced God’s presence and questioned the faith of other Muslims.
“He’s been sentenced to five years’ jail and has to pay a fine of 100 million rupiah ($7,200),” said Bahari’s lawyer Andi Komara.
“We will most likely appeal because many facts weren’t taken into account and were twisted.”
The verdict will fuel fears that Indonesia’s moderate brand of Islam is coming under threat from increasingly influential radicals.
Bahari, from the town of Pandeglang in West Java province, was charged with blasphemy and hate speech in December 2017, after a local leader of the militant Islamic Defenders Front (FPI) complained to police.
Although the blasphemy charge was subsequently dropped, Bahari found himself facing up to six years’ jail for the loosely defined charge of hate speech, as defined under the electronic information law….
Diane Harvey says
Slander, libel, defamation do not apply, using the standards of the sane, apply to dead persons, things, or ideas. As Sam Harris once put it, “Islam’s the mother lode of bad ideas.”
mortimer says
How does a blasphemy law apply to a POLITICAL IDEOLOGY?
FYI says
Insulting “islam” is a conveniently nebulous concept.
It could be anything you like really…
Spelling islam ,oooooslam?
Praying to the actual God ..in Hebrew…for blessings upon Israel.. ….in a mosque?
Drawing a picture of muhammed with his brothers,muhammed,muhammed and muhammed?
Reminding muslims that the koran appears to have gotten the commandments wrong..?
Writing the word “islam” on a wall and then spray-painting “infidels rule”over it?
writing islam…is lam and adding an e{is lame}?
Shaking a fist at the sky and saying “death to islam!allahu Akbar,allahu Akbar!”?
using a sock puppet with the word islam written on it and challenging it to a duel?
pointing out the anti-Semitic and antichristian bits of the koran?
{even worse..pointing out allah’s epic theology errors concerning his total misunderstanding of the concept of the Triune God..”haha ,no,no,allah it’s not a polytheistic system!”}
No Fear says
FYI … your very existence offends muslims. How dare you breathe the same air as a member of the master religion!
nicu says
I have friends in Indonesia and they told me that the church was burned down and the people there keep telling that their an Islamic country .
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
nicu says
* country is …
Berengaria says
Diane is Right, Islam is the Mother Lode of Bad Ideas & may I add that Islam is the Mother Lode of Misery for All Western Civilized Countries.
We allowed our Deadliest Enemy into “Our House” & they have brought Death & Terror, but they will NEVER LEAVE.
Terry Gain says
Islam claims that Christ faked his death with the help of Allah. Islam claims that Christ is a prophet of Islam. So Islam has no issue embracing a man who faked his death as a prophet and no issue with a God who is a deceiver.
Obviously it is impossible to insult islam.
gravenimage says
It is not just that Islam claims that “Jesus” faked his death, but that he compelled another man to die nameless in his place. *Ugh*.
Cheer Bear Girl says
This will be our fate if we allow Muslims to occupy our countries.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Even a moderate muslim cannot insult Islam.He must be a mithraist christian as an article of christian faith to insult Islam to promote filthy pagan christianity inspired by the satan (holy spirit). Thus, the Idiot Moderate deserves jailing for provoking breach of pubic peace.
zoniek says
But mohametanism has pagan roots also. What is the deal with that stone, for instance? Wasn’t it an object of veneration by the pre mohametans? Or is it somehow, magically, now not an idol?
Lavéritétriomphera says
@zoniek,
I’ll be surprised if Ibrahim itace mohammed responds to your comment.
gravenimage says
There may be moderate Muslims, but thefre is no moderate Islam. It is a freedom-crushing creed that allows for no truth-telling or freedom of conscience.
gravenimage says
there
sidney penny says
“We are much more enlightened in the West. We don’t jail people for insulting Islam. We simply excoriate them as “racists” and “Islamophobes,” and ostracize them from polite society. We are much more advanced in the West.”
And “bigots”
Sometimes I wonder who the real bigots are.
“We don’t jail people for insulting Islam”
Well, do not bet on it.First, there will be legislation, then fines and then jail.
Lavéritétriomphera says
All totalitarian systems function in the same way, the leaders forbid their official discourse to be put into question. Even if evidence of fraud has been demonstrated.
sidney penny says
““Moderate” Indonesia: Man jailed for Facebook post insulting Islam”
Almost as bad as MMM
“Moderate” “Modern” Malaysia.
Tall buildings in KL does not make it modern.
Rufolino says
“In the West we don’t jail people for insulting Islam.” ??
in Britain we do.
gravenimage says
“Moderate” Indonesia: Man jailed for Facebook post insulting Islam
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More enforcement of “blasphemy” laws in Dar-al-Islam, where freedom goes to die.