“I wouldn’t put the messages out that you’ve put in the first place,” although he tells her she is perfectly free to criticize Christianity, and backpedals furiously when Jonaya Fenessa English shines a harsh light on his unwitting Sharia adherence and double standard.
Clearly this police official, and doubtless innumerable others in British officialdom, believe in Mohamed Atta’s statement to the passengers on the plane he hijacked on September 11, 2001: “Just stay quiet and you’ll be okay.” They think that if they tiptoe around their increasingly aggressive Muslim population, and are careful to do nothing to offend them (such as discussing the jihad threat honestly and allowing people in to the country who will do so), then they will be spared more jihad murders.
It won’t work. But by the time they find that out, it will likely be too late.
R Russell says
Sharia is being practiced within the UK through the police forces of the individual countries. Even the newspapers have articles about Islam every other day. If only more people would do what I do. I reply to some of these newspapers and add things I have found out here on JW and elsewhere I do it in a non judgmental way. I ask a question. eg. Why did Erdogan ask Muslims living as a minority in countries to behave as though they are a majority in these countries? and what could he mean?
If nothing else it will let readers know there is an agenda. (Mind you if they don’t know there is an agenda, I think they must be on the moon)
Michael says
Any police officer who promotes sharia law as the law of the land deserves to be put to death for idolatry and blasphemy. Religious liberty is for private individuals, not for public authorities.
Halal Bacon says
It is called common purpose – well worth the time to listen to this video
Raja says
Thank you Halal Bacon,
I wonder if I can share this on the evil Facebook even for a few minutes.
boakai ngombu says
again, let’s hear that again and over and over again
gravenimage says
“Michael’s” claim that we execute people for “idolatry and blasphemy” in the civilized world is, of course, just grotesque calumny.
Grrrrrrr....... says
That is a BRILLIANT idea, to be asking those questions.
I will do the same. Thanks!
PRCS says
Factual responses to such articles are important; factual being the operative word.
The Shari’ah is the embodiment of Islamic law (Qur’an, Sunn’ah, opinions and ruling of so-called Muslim “scholars”, innumerable fatwas [the breast feeding fatwa being one of my favorites], etc.).
It is Islam’s Yellow Brick Road
The straight path.
It defines and controls EVERY aspect of every true Muslim’s life (toilet etiquette, food, prayer, sexual relations, fasting, and all–from birth–or “reversion”–to death. EVERYTHING!)
Where there are Muslims, there is Shari’ah–to differing degrees.
IMO, “filthy unbelievers” in the U.S. need to concentrate on those aspects of the Shari’ah, of Islamic law, which run afoul of the U.S. Constitution and relevant law when writing those letters.
While death for apostasy and with which hand Muslims wipe their butts are both components of the Shari’ah, only one of them is illegal here.
Strangerinastrangeland says
I do, however, avoid middle eastern restaurants. Just sayn.
Gerrit Smith says
I avoid all Muslim businesses, produce from Muslim countries and products marked halal even if they are made by western multinationals.
Save Europe says
You should also be wary of KFC generic chicken shops, Kebab/Shoarma places, faux Indian restaurants (which are actually Bangladeshi), and Domino’s generic Pizza places. Much Halal meat there!
Ezra says
I too avoid ALL moslem business and products marked as halal. Why would we wish to support those dedicated to wiping us off the face of the earth?
This woman is very brave and the police officer is a coward as well as being ignorant.
Save Europe says
I applaud you Ezra! As do I. I avoid.
Cicero says
Yes. A good strategy Especially since the Islamic cause is so advanced in the U.K.
Increasingly in the mainstream media ( especially Al BBC) whenever they broadcast a Christian or secular perspective on an issue you can be sure that the Islamic point of view is invariably included. It has become de rigour,
Yesterday there was a broadcast on horology with specific reference to analogue clocks including ones on church towers.
The broadcaster was a Ateef Nawaz (any relation to our clever scintillating Briton Maajid Nawaz?) I was on the alert for the expected reference/inclusion to things Islamic. And sure it was two thirds of the way into the broad cast the speaker said “I am a Muslim !” As an aside when talking about church clock towers and their chimes.
He was inferring that as a Muslim he could not critically comment on them. Which points the way to the view strongly held by Muslims that non- Muslims have no right to criticise Islam in all its aspects.
This statement was followed by a cacophony of noise and the muezzin call as well as a orgiastic description of a huge public clock being constructed in Saudi Arabia – the special land of the Muslims
Ezra says
We should criticize EVERY moslem tenet that is anti-Judeo/Christian. Else-wise it is as iff we approve.
Anne says
You’re right !critidizing islam strongly everyday is an obligation that we must do at every opportunity , every day ! Don’t worry about offending islam , islam is decades overdue for a good thrashing . If we don’t put our heel down hard on this criminal ideology we will be finished as a people on this planet . Look at it this way , it’s us or them . How badly do you want to live ? What kind of a life do you want for your children ? This is a no brainer !
gravenimage says
Of course, the claim that Muslims cannot criticize Christianity is bs. Christians do not demand this, and Muslims are savage in their persecution of Christians.
This is just–as you note–an implication that Infidels not be allowed to criticize Islam.
Voytek Gagalka says
Yes, as it was way too late for mostly Christian population of Turkey, Lebanon, Egypt and all the rest on the threshold of Islamic conquest for their countries. Britain – you are the next! Helping conquerors with their conquest: What a pitiful spectacle!
tama says
Ah there’s the idea 😀
This was in a paper local in my city:
https://www.surreynowleader.com/community/surrey-gala-will-celebrate-muslim-feminine-excellence/
The gala event is hosted by Voices of Muslim Women, a B.C.-focused non-profit founded in 2017 after “an eclectic and diverse group of Muslim women came together to share their passion for the arts, social justice, education, and community,”
R Russell says
tama
Don’t forget Taqiyya, Tawriya, Kitman and Muruna. They let a Muslim do anything so they can appeal to the Kuffr who is gullible
Uriah Sheep says
With Macron’s announcement that up to 200 million mostly Muslim Africans are coming to the new continent of “Eurafrica” in the next 30 years, it is quite clear that the elites have tired of Western Civilisation and wish to destroy it.
What interests me is why? Why do they hate one of the greatest civilisations that has existed in this planet?
If it’s a multi-cultural utopia they dream of for Europe, why are they just bringing in Muslims?
What about the Chinese? Central and South Americans?
This insidious global elitist agenda has nothing to do with diversity. This is all about Islam and the Communists who have got to positions of power who now have the opportunity to destroy the West.
Niemoller says
Agree.
Its faux multiculturalism, because it’s a zero sum game. Humane culture recedes, and perverted, bloodthirsty Islamic codes grow.
EU politicians are baizuo:
Baizuo (Chinese: literally “White left(ies)”) is a derogatory Chinese epithet that came into being in the middle 2010’s.The word received attention in Germany where it was seen as criticizing the immigration policies of Angela Merkel.
The word baizuo is, according to political scientist Zhang Chenchen, a Chinese word that ridicules Western “Liberal elites”. The term has also been used to refer to perceived double standards of the Western media, such as the alleged bias on reporting about Islamist attacks in Xinjiang.
Zhang Chenchen further defined the word “baizuo” with the definition “People who only care about topics such as immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment” and “have no sense of real problems in the real world”; they are hypocritical humanitarians who advocate for peace and equality only to “satisfy their own feeling of moral superiority”; they are “obsessed with political correctness” to the extent that they “tolerate backwards Islamic values for the sake of multiculturalism”; they believe in the welfare state that “benefits only the idle and the free riders”; they are the “ignorant and arrogant westerners” who “pity the rest of the world and think they are saviours”. Baizuo is used as an insult amongst Chinese netizens.
Raja says
Niemoller, Thanks for some refreshing news from China.
The continent that gave the world Judeo Christian values is under twin attack of Islam and Left both thoroughly immoral and contagious like cancer. What better way can you destroy a civilization?
Terry Gain says
Muslims are the original Nazis. So obviously there is no Islam in Utopia.
Strangerinastrangeland says
They were allies in WWII. They loved Hitler.
Jean Wallace says
Don’t let them wear you done, keep at it like a bull dog, bless you for standing up for what’s right and lawful if only the police and government would do the same.
CE says
Dr. Spencer,
The main point that I believe you should have added to this story that you didn’t is that people criticize Islam because it desperately NEEDS to be criticized. Yes, it is an exercise of free speech and we should make sure that right is never taken away, but making it only about free speech is giving liberals and Muslims the ammunition to claim that we make such criticisms just to show spite and hatred.
I beg you, in the future when you defend someone who has come under attack for crticizing Islam, please bring up at least a few of those disgustingly evil tenets of Islam that we’ve got to bring out, discuss and somehow destroy.
Thanks,
CE
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“I beg you, in the future when you defend someone who has come under attack for criticizing Islam, please bring up at least a few of those disgustingly evil tenets of Islam that we’ve got to bring out, discuss and somehow destroy.”
Those that follow JW know that Robert Spencer does quotes a large number of verses from the Koran and the Sunnah. Sometimes I wonder how he keeps up with it all.
BTW, Mohammadism doesn’t need to be criticized. (I, of course, understand that this woman is informing others by criticizing and therefore helping in the cause.) It’s only response to criticism is silencing it. It doesn’t need to be destroyed (a near impossible task anyway). Mohammadism must be understood and isolated like a virulent disease. We need to protect the Dar al Harb from it, its adherents, defenders and apologist. Isolated, Mohammadism, like a bad disease, naturally weakens and fades.
The woman in the video (Jonaya Fenessa English) may not realize it but she may already be in a shariah compliant country. She may not have come to terms with the fact that rather than exercising her free speech rights, she may, in fact, be violating her part of a dhimmi’s contract.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“Those that follow JW know that Robert Spencer does quotes a large number of verses from the Koran and the Sunnah.”
should read:
“Those who follow JW know that Robert Spencer does quote a large number of verses from the Koran and the Sunnah.”
JW_Reader says
I think, you are under estimating the power of native people of Great Britain. This small country once ruled much of the world and made their language lingua franca of the world. They let the Paki politicians run their mouth as they really do not count much. Even the political correctness is evaporating. I see people are using the terms like Pakistani Muslim Rape Gangs. Tommy Robinson is going to paint that term on a bus and go around London.Muslims still count some where between 5 and 10% in UK. People are challenging Sharia court, etc. So, I think, there is still hope, at least for UK.
DragarOz says
I love the line in the movie ‘The Last of the Mohicans’ when the English officer says to the other officer “I thought British policy is ‘Make the World … England’, sir.”
Bring back Imperial England I say!
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
We’ll see.
CE says
Flavius Claudius Iulianus , You said, “It doesn’t need to be destroyed (a near impossible task anyway)”
I agree that erasing Islam from the world will be difficult, but it is not impossible. Throughout history, other religious doctrines have come and gone. As recently as less than 100 years ago, millions of Japanese fervently believed that their emperor was a God, to the degree that by the thousands they committed ritual murder/suicides in JIhadi-esque attempts to defeat their enemies. It took a really big stick and unfortunately the loss of millions of lives, but eventually those Japanese were brought to understand that their emperor was nothing more than a common man, and their religious zealotry was a horrific waste of humanity.
For the past 1400 years, Islam’s leaders have rigorously denied anyone the freedom to openly criticize Islam or discuss it’s flaws. Today, thanks largely to this medium called the internet, such discussions are reaching into the lands wherein the pervert prophet started his evil cult, and if the lamentations of dozens of Islamic clerics is any indication, young Muslims are deserting it by the boatloads.
Unfortunately it will probably take a couple of hundred more years and a lot more needless bloodshed before Islam finally becomes a non-issue, but this goal can be achieved. If we value our freedoms, we have no other choice but to try.
Carol (the 1st) says
+1
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
First of all, and an interesting note: political Shintoism is in the midst a revival. So it was not eradicated by the Americans after WWII. One really can’t eradicate an bad idea – one can only study it and discredit it.
We tread on dangerous ground when we talk about eradicating an idea or an ideology. How do you really do that anyway? Do you ban all texts and all discussions about those texts? Do you try to remove all traces of the ideology as was done with Soviet Commissar who fell out of favour? Remove all mention like an disfavoured Roman emperor? Sometimes when you ban something, you give it extra value and virtue that it just doesn’t have.
And what about all the Mohammadans? Most of them are born into it and have no clue what it really means. Do you kill all of them?
And when you eradicate something you must interact with it. Mohammadism is very much like a Chinese finger puzzle. Interact with it and you stand a good chance, if you don’t know what you’re doing, of being caught in a trap.
Wouldn’t it be better to study it openly and make it common knowledge that it really is a bad idea; that it is an ideology that leads only to misery, all the while keeping it and its adherents at arms length? Keeping them at arms length by building and maintaining a real, physical border between the land of Mohammadism and the land without Mohammadism?
CE says
Flavius Claudius Iulianus,
I said nothing about “banning it” (Islam). I just said that I believed it was possible for it to be destroyed, and within the text of my comment I mentioned the fact that criticism and open discussions are now reaching into the very lands wherein Mohammad started his evil cult. Perhaps I did not make it clear because I also mentioned the end of the belief by the Japanese that their emperor was a God (in spite of any current revival of Shintoism), which did occur largely because of WWII, but it is through this spread of knowledge and education that I think it can and will be destroyed, or at least reduced to the point that it will have become largely a non-issue.
I think your comment/suggestion, “Wouldn’t it be better to study it openly and make it common knowledge that it really is a bad idea” says basically the same thing (that I meant to say but evidently said rather poorly).
gravenimage says
Yes–Islam needs to be *exposed*.
gravenimage says
Robert Spencer does this all the time.
Norger says
It’s called Islamophobia.
Strangerinastrangeland says
You should be aware and beware of Islam. Look at what is happening in Africa and Europe. Does 9-11 mean anything to you or are you just a troll.
gravenimage says
Strangerinastrangeland, Norger is a staunch Anti-Jihadist, He is being sarcastic here.
CE says
I agree, but more often than not when criticized for his attacks against Islam, Robert Spencer uses the “free speech” defense and it becomes the main focus of the discussion. The main focus should always be that criticism of Islam is necessary because Islam is EVIL. EVIL doctrines that instruct it’s followers that they are to KILL people who’s only crime as been either adultery, apostasy, homosexuality, blasphemy, drunkenness, being a Jew, being a child who is going to grow up to become non-Muslim or any person who fails to show up at the mosque for prayers DESPERATELY NEED TO BE CRITICIZED for having such tenets. EVIL doctrines that instruct it’s followers to subjugate women and tell them that it’s okay for adult men to FUCK little children DESPERATELY need to be criticized, and we need to focus on that need as the reason we criticize – NOT just to show how we can exercise our freedom of speech. We draw silly pictures of Mohammad to emphasize and bring the world’s attention to these disgusting tenets, not to to intentionally offend Muslims.
Ray Jarman says
+1
mortimer says
BAIZUO is a vital term.
The BAIZUO are PEACOCKING according to Gad Saad of Concordia U. They want to virtue-signal by strutting around with the ‘CORRECTHINK’ promoted by The Party this week.
Niemoller says
Yep. “baizuo” needs to be hurled at the self-murdering left. It’s so clear that even people who have never been out of communist China notice the phenomenon, i.e., the unnatural actions taken in the west. Perhaps they see the worst of their Cultural Revolution, indoctrination camps and enforced public self-criticism being played out in an even more destructive way.
A pyrrhic victory for Islam in the west === a subsequent global victory for China.
China will have no choice if the rest of the world collapses in an Islamic cesspool.
Terry Gain says
China will never submit to effing Islam. Communism is a wretched ideology. Because it purports to be blessed by God, Islam is worse.
Carol (the 1st) says
BAY ZHOO seems to be the pronunciation. The video below doesn’t mention BAIZUO but the speaker describes the non-PC attitude of the Chinese and how well it works for them and how poorly the Leftist PC posturing works for countries such as Canada:
Politically Correct in China? Good luck with that.
Ashley says
Ms. English needs to retain a top-notch attorney ASAP and go after these UK authorities that refuse to investigate the death threats she has received.
She has documentation of the death threats. She has text/audio video evidence of her complaints being blatantly ignored. She has text/audio video evidence of being labeled the instigator for the “offense” of speaking her truth regarding Islam and the Koran.
This woman is being abused…by her stalker AND the authorities.
Ms. English is a hot spit.
R Russell says
Ashley
Remember how long it took the police to take Nissar Hussain seriously? He was getting death threats, was being beaten up, his house fire bombed and his car vandalised. The police said it was his fault for he was ‘in the faces’ of the Muslims. That wasn’t true.
If they wouldn’t take him seriously, they wont take this lady’s death threats seriously either.
There is most certainly another layer of government we don’t know about and it is it which is calling the shots.
I know not everyone will agree with me, but I believe there wont be a turn around until the country returns to the faith of our forefathers. If we don’t I believe sharia will be our fate.
This is just one example of how the faith of our forefathers turned round WW2. It can happen again with Islam.
https://www.christianstogether.net/Articles/200052/Christians_Together_in/Christian_Life/The_Miracle_of.aspx
Ray Jarman says
The words of Francis Bacon, “A just fear of imminent danger, though there be no blow given, is a lawful cause of war.” The West must wake up to the imminent danger to our entire civilization from the savages of ilsam.
Bacherbazistan says
Might be a good idea for her to contact Lord Pearson as well. He could raise this in the House of Lords, he has dared to mention Islam there very recently.
RichardL says
What a remarkable woman! I hope she will be safe and handsomely rewarded for her courage!
gravenimage says
Hear, hear, Richard!
Terry Gain says
She is one of my favourite Brits. She needs to receive international recognition for her intelligence and courage. She is a gift from God.
aidjunkie says
Sadly yet another example of those with a different view and trying to warn against Islam being persecuted. Read A Consequence of Apathy by NR Baldwin. This brave author has been forced out of his job after a long campaign by his employees….I wonder why (not). Support him and read his novelised warning of the future.
Baucent says
I agree, she’s one gutsy woman. Hopefully more ordinary British people will stand up to the obvious double standard when it comes to the untouchable religion. I hope she stays safe.
gravenimage says
UK police employee tells woman threatened for criticizing Islam: “I wouldn’t put the messages out that you’ve put”
……………………….
Enforcing Shari’ah law.
Meanwhile, the police have said that they are going to do nothinng about her getting death threats. *Ugh*.
“UK: Police refuse to investigate death threats to Islam critic because they claim she is ‘inciting hatred’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/04/uk-police-refuse-to-investigate-death-threats-to-islam-critic-because-they-claim-she-is-inciting-hatred
Ashley says
As Robert asserts and reports: If you see something amiss in the UK, don’t bother reporting it.
You’ll be scolded.
UK law enforcement can’t be bothered with death threats…
The officer implied Ms. English was monopolizing his precious time with her frivolous complaints of death threats. Guess he had to take a leak as he heard the bell that his frozen mirowaved pizza was ready…
gravenimage says
Just disgusting, Ashley.
WPM says
May God protect and watch over her ,we know the English police will not. They at too busy surfing the web looking for imaginary insults against Islam ,Islam insults .Just quote the Koran and the Hadths Islam condemns itself with its own books.
Terry Gain says
Well no, he wouldn’t put out those ( truthful) messages about Islam. Of course not. He is a coward.
Shmoovie says
+1
A true gutless wonder.
Dry Academy says
Fucking amoral soulless police. They always side with evil. In America, they side with the Church of Scientology as well. They would side with Satan himself if he were in charge.
Michael Copeland says
Ms English’s assessment of the law is correct.
The law is not being upheld.
John Hawk says
This policeman is a real dhimmi among dhimmis. The British are terrified that the “wrong” people — or the “right people” depending upon your perspective — will take offense at some trivial incident or other and begin rioting and burning cars. Many Muslims seem to have the emotional maturity of five-year-olds and the British authorities are only too happy to indulge their tantrums. The result, of course, is even more and increasingly violent behavior, as sanctified in Mein Qur’an.
Carol (the 1st) says
It’s SO demeaning to the muslims. It’s like admitting: “You can’t take that lollipop away from that big baby as it’s incapable of justifying its unhealthy tastes. Ignore it and avoid the tears and drama at all costs.”
Carol (the 1st) says
It’s SO demeaning to the muslims. It’s like admitting: “You can’t take that lollipop away from that big baby as it’s incapable of justifying its unhealthy tastes. Ignore it and avoid the tantrums at all costs.”
Wellington says
The UK police, treated in the aggregate, are shaping up more and more, with each passing year, as an obstacle to freedom and not a proponent of liberty.
Shameful. Disturbing. Ominous.
And don’t expect Theresa May to do anything about this.
gravenimage says
My grandfather was a police superintendent in the West Midlands. He would be horrified by this.
Wellington says
Wow, gravenimage. Says so much.
If only your grandfather and his associates (from top to bottom) were running Britain now. Who of sense and knowledge could possibly think the UK would be worse off now? For that matter, who of sense and knowledge could possibly think the UK wouldn’t be better off now?
gravenimage says
If only, Wellington.
Anne Smith says
Of course Mrs May will not do anything to stop the Police implementing Sharia Law. She is all for it, that is why she is nicknamed Sharia May.
She makes no secret of her grovelling passion for Muslims.
PRCS says
Islamic law.
Bacherbazistan says
and she’s not even wearing a hijab.
b.a. freeman says
wow! this lady is my hero!
unfortunately, his is a lowly position, not that of a leader or even an enforcer (yet), but by confronting him with his own weasel words and making him uncomfortable, she may cause him to learn more about islam. hopefully, he will finally learn that islam and its adherents must *not* be given special treatment, that they must endure criticism and mockery, just like anybody else, if freedom is to remain alive. i have my doubts, but this young lady is the hope of the UK
Georg says
The hateful dork behind the counter is getting his brains beaten in. Outrageous.
Lydia Church says
What to do:
Promote Christianity.
Refute those who attack it.
Criticize islam.
Refute those who promote it.
That is our calling, whether we are in the US or the UK, whether or not the police support us or not, whether a double standard is in place or not, and whether or not that puts us at personal risk.
As the saying goes: No guts, no glory.
Or even: No guts, no victory!
And it’s just the right thing to do.
Silence is enabling evil to thrive. You may survive, but not for long.
Doing the right thing and bringing about good comes at the cost of personal sacrifice.
History has taught us that lesson many times.
And in this case those who are disciples of Jesus are called to be His witnesses, that is our first priority. And that involves the use of words.
PRCS says
As an atheist, I agree with this part of your post:
Criticize islam.
Refute those who promote it.
One does not need to be religious to abhor Islam.
Steve's nephew says
I think of the term “Slippery Slope” which basically means that a small, seemingly insignificant or minor event, when ignored, gradually becomes larger and larger, and is eventually unstoppable. But it was stoppable at one time.
WESTPAC Spy says
The official position of the British government: terrorism works.
“I wouldn’t put the messages out that you’ve put in the first place, BECAUSE I’VE BEEN TERRORIZED AND NOW I ONLY THINK AND SAY WHAT MUSLIMS ALLOW ME TO THINK AND SAY.”
R Cole says
Wonder how they treat former Muslims who are threatened?
‘You left Islam, it’s your own fault. I would not have left Islam if I were you. And if I did, I would keep my mouth shut about it. Just saying!’
I think this is an example of the new sensitivity training the police go through.
Get the feeling of what happened when those 1000’s of underaged British girls and their families went to the police station to report they were raped by a MUSLIM. They might as well have been reporting they saw a UFO!
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Fear, Islam’s guiding force
To tell someone essentially they deserve to be attacked for criticizing Islam, is a page straight out of the sharia law book. Something we would expect to see in any Islamic nation under its blasphemy laws. We talk about creeping Islamization when we see these cases because that’s how Islam operates. Muslims are conditioned to adhere to Islam, through coercion.
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Now, if she had gone to the police station, with an Islamic headscarf on and claimed she was threatened, PC whatever his name is, would be on the job! No value judgments would be placed on what she might have said to ’cause’ threats to be made against her. Similar to a Muslim woman who goes to one of the UK’s sharia courts and complains her husband is beating her, and the Imam judge, asks has she been a good wife, to assess whether she is deserving of the beatings with the baseball bat.
One of the early such cases, a middle-aged convert to Islam said, her Muslim boyfriend told her, Jesus was a ‘minor prophet’, and a Dutch immigrant to the UK, in what he thought was a religious debate, responded, that Muhammad was a marauding…, he gets a visit from the police and has to appear in court, but luckily the judge threw the case out. In court, the woman claimed she used to wear mini-skirts back in the ’60’s but since becoming a Muslim she doesn’t, all too much for the judge! However, this comedy of errors was a harbinger of things to come.
So when someone in the UK complains of being threatened by a Muslim, then the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is no longer applies, and they come under the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights, where Islam is placed above all human rights and even life itself. The UK has adopted a dual legal system.
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Fiddling the numbers
If a Muslim woman makes a similar police complaint, even for a minor slight, such as someone looked at her funny in her burqa, this would be taken seriously. It would be logged as a hate crime against Muslims. ‘A problem in urgent need of being dealt with.’
Whereas this lady – minus the Islamic headscarf – claims to have been threatened in matters relating to Islam, she becomes like a beggar in front of the law. When it comes to Islam, the British police enforce the Dhimmi status of non-Muslims. And no Muslim on non-Muslim hate crime statistics is collected here.
Clearly, the policeman just wants to retire with a nice pension. And according to his sensitivity training, this is what he’s supposed to do. In this case, why not do as they do in the Islamic world if you want the British police to take your case seriously, why not pay them a bribe.
Scorpio says
Just a thought! I wonder if the lady would have been given the time of day if she was white?
gravenimage says
She probably would have been called a racist before having the threats ignored.
Baucent says
The monotone man behind the desk was probably a “Common Purpose” alumni.
Yokel says
Yes. R Russell noted above (Apr 18, 2018 at 2:34 pm) that there seems to be a hidden layer of government at work in Britain. I’d venture to suggest that the hidden layer is Common Purpose. Their job is to install Cultural Marxism a la Frankfurt School.
For this particular incident see 8 below:
… the Frankfurt School recommended (among other things):
1. The creation of racism offences.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority
5. Huge immigration to destroy identity
6. The promotion of excessive drinking
7. Emptying of churches
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
9. Dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family
[from http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2216734/posts ]
Islamic mirror says
• kafir -> extrame degrading word for non-muslims
“Kaffer”. In Arabic, this means “infidel”. The weight of this word has been lost in English for a millennium. However, in Arabic, it is the worst possible word that you can be called or to call someone. It means that you are inhuman and deserve death. There are hundreds of surahs(chapters) in the Qur’an that belittles unbelievers who are not worthy of life. Any non-Muslim is considered a kaffer. Qur’an 005:072 “They are surely Infidels who say Christ, the Messiah is God.”
“Kaffer” is the world’s most dangerous word. It is the reason that Muslims are able to kill innocent people and then sleep well at night. The same as a butcher cuts (and commonly the same method) the throat of a sheep, Muslims view of kaffers is that they are just animals worthy of death. You will never see a Muslim with PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) in fact, a smile on their face.
• “Wrong-doers”, in case you don’t know, is code for anyone who is not a Muslim. We are also “the unjust”, “the transgressors”, and “those who became infidels”, these particular phrases being repeated in the Quran over 400 times
So as far as Allah is concerned, anyone who isn’t a Muslim is a “wrong-doer” and is at war with Islam and deserves to be killed.
This is not counting all the hatred and slander of Jews and Christians and anyone who is not a Muslim, the subjugation of women, the lies about Jesus, Abraham, Moses, Mary, etc, etc. And then there’s the “abrogation” (13:39 and 2:106) and
• 400 verses in the Qur’an alone that describe the torment in hell that Allah has prepared for the infidel.
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The Quran animalize/ dehumanizes, and demonize non-Muslims,
describing them as “vile animals” and beasts:
Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. (98:6)
Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe. (8:55)
“Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not believe” (Qur’an 8:55).
Verse 7:176 compares unbelievers to “panting dogs” with regard to their idiocy and worthlessness.
Verse 7:179 says they are like “cattle” only worse.
Qur’an 5:59-60: “Say: ‘People of the Book, do you blame us for any other cause than that we believe in Allah, and what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down before, and that most of you are ungodly?’ Say: ‘Shall I tell you of a recompense with Allah, worse than that? Whoever Allah has cursed, and with whom He is angry, and made some of them apes and swine, and worshippers of idols — they are worse situated, and have gone further astray from the right way.’”
Verse 6:111 says they are ignorant.
Surah 19:83 Do you not see that We have sent the devils upon the disbelievers, inciting them to (evil) with (constant) incitement?
Don’t you see Muhammad ? (Allah says) I sent the devils to persuade and misguide the disbelievers ! (Im so cool)
Verse 23:55 says they are helpers of the devil.
Verse 5:60 even says that Allah transformed Jews of the past into apes and pigs. This is echoed by verses 7:166 and 2:65.
Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing
hell. – 33:60
Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. – 41:14
(‘allah’ is obsessed with hell and knows so much about it.
That’s because he’s the devil. muslims follow the devil and want to
deceive others about the true nature of islam. muslim are deceived
and muslims aim to deceive.)
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A hadith (Bukhari 54:524) says that Muhammad believed rats to be “mutated Jews” (also confirmed by Sahih Muslim 7135 and 7136).
Verses 46:29-35 even say that unbelieving men are worse than the demons who believe in Muhammad.
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mohammed Singles out Jews. By any standard, the Koran is clearly HATE SPEECH against Jews: vicious Islamic hate for the Jewish people.
Muslims raise their children to HATE JEWS. They never question it. If you attend Al Quds Day rallies, you will find Muslims from every country who get together in a party atmosphere to hate Jews. It is frightening to me and I’m not Jewish.
Well over 100 ANTI-SEMITIC VERSES in the Koran and a few hundred anti-Semitic lines in the hadiths prove that Islam is systemically ANTI-SEMITIC.
the Qur’an depicts the Jews as inveterately evil and bent on destroying the well-being of the Muslims. They are the strongest of all people in enmity toward the Muslims (5:82);
as fabricating things and falsely ascribing them to Allah (2:79; 3:75, 3:181);
claiming that Allah’s power is limited (5:64);
loving to listen to lies (5:41);
disobeying Allah and never observing his commands (5:13);
disputing and quarreling (2:247);
hiding the truth and misleading people (3:78);
staging rebellion against the prophets and rejecting their guidance (2:55);
being hypocritical (2:14, 2:44);
giving preference to their own interests over the teachings of Muhammad (2:87);
wishing evil for people and trying to mislead them (2:109);
feeling pain when others are happy or fortunate (3:120);
being arrogant about their being Allah’s beloved people (5:18);
devouring people’s wealth by subterfuge (4:161);
slandering the true religion and being cursed by Allah (4:46);
killing the prophets (2:61);
From the Quran, Surah 2:65, 7:116 O Muslims, Jews are a treacherous and deceitful people over whom lies the curse and anger of Allah. They permitted what Allah forbade, with lame excuses; therefore, He cursed and turned them into apes and pigs
Qur’an 2:65: “And well you know there were those among you that transgressed the Sabbath, and we said to them, “Be apes, miserably slinking!”
“Be ye apes,despised and hated” koran 2 v 65{allah’s hatred for the Jews}
Qur’an 7:166: “And when they turned in disdain from that forbidding We said to them, ‘Be you apes, miserably slinking!’”
being merciless and heartless (2:74);
never keeping their promises or fulfilling their words (2:100);
being unrestrained in committing sins (5:79);
being cowardly (59:13-14);
being miserly (4:53);
being transformed into apes and pigs for breaking the Sabbath (2:63-65; 5:59-60; 7:166); and more.
• Surah 4:160 For wicked Jews, Allah has prepared a painful doom
“They are under Allah’s curse (9:30),
and Muslims should wage war against them and subjugate them under Islamic hegemony (9:29).
[FYI says
Would the Muslim World league be prepared to honestly explain..to the EU..the following concepts??
1 .The Dar Al-harb
2 the use of Lying to promote islam:taqqiya,tawriya,muruna,kitman
3 to explain the following please..
“Be ye apes,despised and hated” koran 2 v 65{allah’s hatred for the Jews}
“allah curses the Jews and Christians” koran 9 v 30{WHY should they be curse??}
“oh ye who believe!Take not the Jews and Christians as friends” koran 5 v 51
In the light of k 5 v 51,please EXPLAIN how well you think muslims will fit into western society
In the light of these koranic commands,please EXPLAIN why the west should remain silent in regards to islamic, koranic, anti-Semitism and anti Christianity.
Shouldn’t antichristian or anti-Semitic hate speech in the koran and islam be CRIMINALIZED?
WHY NOT?
Is it the case that…??
“All religions are equal but islam is much more equal than others”
“All people with religious beliefs are equal but moslems and their rights are to be made much,much more equal than the rights of any other religious group”
Note allah’s command of k 5 v 51:THAT is the reason any “interfaith” nonsense or any allowance of mass islamic immigration into the west will ALWAYS be bogus.
Islamic mirror says
The Prophet permits the killing of children.”
“It is reported on the authority of Sa’b b Juththama that the Prophet of Allah (pbuh) when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said, ‘They are from them.’”
–Sahih Muslim bk 019, no. 434
“Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped (but Allah) and that Muhammad is Allah’s Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform all that then THEY SAVE THEIR LIVES AND PROPERTY FROM ME.”
–Sahih Bukhari vo.1 bk 2 no. 25
or “then their blood and their riches are inviolable from your hands.” –Sahih Muslim bk 31 n. 5917
Sheikh Omar Bakri “The general rule is that the blood {lives} and property of non-Muslims are permissible for us {Muslims). Their blood and property re not inviolable. It is in their interest to make a peace treaty or dhimmi pact with me. Either you accept it or we live in a state of war.”
“for those who cannot offer resistance or cannot fight, such as women, children, monks, old people, the blind, the handicapped and their like, they shall not be killed, unless they actually fight with words (propaganda) and acts (spying or otherwise assisting in the warfare). Some (jurists) are of the opinion that all of them may be killed, on the mere ground that they are unbelievers, but they make an exception for women and children AS THEY CONSTITUTE PROPERTY FOR MUSLIMS.”
–Ibn Taymiyyah “The Religious and Moral Doctrine of Jihad” p.28
Note, the prohibition is more a suggestion than a rule and never is punished in its breach. Here, women and children are allowed to live because they are more valuable as slaves.
The Prophet this woman reveres presided over the beheadings of some 800 men and boys of the Banu Qurayza Jews. Bound and bent over a ditch, if the boys had any public hair they were executed.
Mullahs have approved the killing of Israeli men, women, and children (Jews) wholesale; they have sanctioned the indiscriminate killing of Americans also, to avenge the dead Muslim “women and children” and pay back “evil for evil.”
“And so it is allowed to throw at them, that is the Kafirs [unbelievers] with fire, snakes, scorpions while using the catapults. It is also permissible to smoke them, open water on them in order to drown them, destroy their buildings on top of them. Since in the meaning of Tabyeet is that if you kill, do it well …And it is permissible to kill them therefore even if amongst them are women and children since this is included in Tabyeet (perfect killing methods)“
–Sheikh al-Buhuti “Removing The Veil”
As for the Jews, hate and enmity toward them is a decree from Allah in the Qur’an. So Sheikh Qaradawi can preach to Muslims:
“Jews are the greatest enemies of the Ummah and their enmity to Islam and Muslims has been, still is, and will continue as long as Muslims and Jews remain on this earth..Allah says you will find the staunchest enemies of those who have believed are the Jews (surah 5:82).”
Or Sheikh Muhammad Saleh Al-Munajjid in Saudi Arabia (2002): “The Jews are the helpers of Satan. The Jews are the cause of the misery of the human race, together with the infidels and the other polytheists. Satan leads them to Hell and to a miserable fate.”
What is the life of an 8 year old Jewish child compared to that? Non-Muslims are not really human beings. “Retaliation is obligatory on against anyone who kills a human being..the following are not subject to retaliation..a Muslim for killing a non-Muslim.” ‘Umdat al-Salik, manual of Islamic law
As for Muslim children dying as human shields, “based on the consensus of the ulema, those Muslims who are accidentally killed are martyrs and the obligatory jihad should never be abandoned because it creates martyrs.” –Ibn Taymiyyah
(prospective) non-believer child KILLING – very sick
Sahih Muslim:019:4457 “The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) used not to kill the children, so thou shouldst not kill them unless you could know what Khadir had known about the child he killed, or
you could distinguish between a child who would grow up to be a believer (and a child who would grow up to be a non-believer), so that you killed the (prospective) non-believer and left the (prospective) believer aside.”
This is not normal this is an atrocity. You are killing your own child. Pious Muslims do not always love their families. If any of them step out of line by falling in love or leaving Islam, they are only too happy to “Honor Kill” them.
164 verses in the Koran kill, curse, hate jihad(warfare) and the 14 Koran verses that say Muslims not be friends of dirty kafirs.
( the connotations in Arabic of the word kaffir are indeed of filth and corruption and obscenity to such a degree it might even make Hitler blush. Not a matter the UN Committee will be taking up soon, however.)
where did you learn your Islam?? what the “preacher” is saying pure Islam as taught by Muhammad. Go read Quran, hadiths and sira to learn the vile core of Islam, and you will forget the lies of “Islam is peace”, “Islam is all love,” etc garbage in a moment – Learn the real Islam – leave Islam and join the humanity
Muslims are only allowed to “act” friendly towards non-Muslims for Dawa, to convince people to convert to Islam, or to protect themselves( Taqiya). To be friends with a non-Muslim for any other reason is apostasy.
“O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as friends they are but friends of each other. And if any amongst you takes them friends, then surely, he is one of them.” Qur’an 5:51
Muslims are not even permitted to sit and eat or chat with non-Muslims unless it is absolutely necessary… much less to ally themselves with non-Muslims for military purposes against other Muslims.
“No believer shall kill any believer for any non-believer. Nor shall he help any non-believer against a believer.” -Ibn Kathir
• allah doesn’t want muslims to be friends with Jews or Christians
koran 5 v 51{“Take not the Jews and Christians for friends”}
• Muhammad is god’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” Qur’an 48:29
“Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are harsh against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves.” (Qur’an 48:29)
“Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, ruthless to unbelievers.” (Qur’an 48:29)
• “Allah commanded His Messenger to strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh against them, their refuge is Hell.” 9:73
“You will not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they be their fathers, sons, brothers or kindred.” 58:22
• “Fight (q-t-l kil, slaughter, massacre) those who believe not in Allah nor the LAst Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth (Islam) even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the jizya (ransom) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued (i.e. humbled and humiliated).” 9:29
• … That they were lower https://quran.com/98/6-7 than Muslims.
• The obligation to “kill them wherever you find them” (Qur’an 2:191, 4:89, 9:5) doesn’t end if you’re incapacitated “
(A Spanish physiotherapist working for the Red Cross in northern Afghanistan was shot and killed Monday September 11, 2017: by a wheelchair-bound patient, in the latest attack on the international charity. And his victim–a woman who aided *disabled children*–had also helped him many times before.
This was not an abstract Infidel–this was someone who had cared for the murderer and his coreligionists, and he still considered it sacralized Jihad to gun her downShow kindness to Muslims in need – result: be murdered by them.
For sheer ingratitude, that’s unbeatable. I seriously question whether Muslims are genuinely human. A human being does not do this. Animals do not do this – they are not that savage.. This has nothing to do with genetics. People who had been Muslim for generations like Ayaan Hirsi Ali are civilized people who have left Islam.
Whereas Westerners whose ancestors have been civilized for hundreds of years become savages when they convert to Islam.
This is about *ideology*, not race. This is ALL about ideology. Islam takes everything that is good about humanity and obliterates it. Islam truly crushes the human spirit.)
gravenimage says
+1
Carol (the 1st) says
I wouldn’t give Islam that much credit, Islamic Mirror. Only warping children, coercing adults, appealing to deviants and bullies, killing opponents and leave-takers, acting as parasites, obfuscating truth, and feeding sanctimonious cud to cows, gives “mysterious” Islam any durability at all.
I think the world has too much experience, too good communication, too many intelligent people, and too much PRIDE to do anything other than trash this fool’s gold and those who would make use of it.
But if it appears we are too slow at completing this anointed task, then China has my permission to rush in and put these Islamic cretins out of their misery. They are too expensive a novelty.
FYI says
Why not ask the British police to investigate anti-Semitic hate speech;I believe they are obliged to investigate once an official complaint is made.
Show them where you have seen this hate speech.
In the koran….keep a copy with you to show to the police.
Ask the police officers(the politically correct British police constabulary,pc PC’s)what they plan to do about islamic koranic hate speech?Nothing of course!
Complainant:hello,I’d like to make a formal complaint about anti-Semitic hate speech:will you investigate?
Police:Ok,I have your details….we’ll proceed to investigate..your complaint..as we are obliged to do..
Complainant: Great.let’s stamp out this hate speech together and ban all such written bigotry!It’sin the koran you see..
“It says….”the Jews are …apes to be despised and hated” ..its in the koran 2 v 65:there are many other statements that are offensive to Jews and also insulting to Christians.Will you be making arrests at the local radical mosque,confiscating the hate material?
Police:No,that would be islamophobic and racist.
Complainant:Wow! islam isn’t a race and it isn’t “islamophobic” to expose koranic anti-Semitism and insulting and offensive comments about Christianity in islam is it?
Police;{hangs -up}
Compaianant:HULL-OH?Anybody there?…Sadiq Khan…the muslim brotherhood…?
Maran Atha says
May God give us the courage to always stand for truth, no matter what the consequences.
Society’s punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our own soul when we look the other way.
gravenimage says
+1
Jacqueline says
I wonder if the British police, on a national basis, have been pressured into supporting Sharia on threat of losing their pensions or being fired if they refuse to adhere to directions. The mayor of London is a devout Muslim. I can understand how that city’s police could be threatened and cowed into submission. If someone could document such indoctrination it would promote understanding of the British police’ attitude.
PRCS says
When will we drop the “sharia law” nonsense and start calling it what it really is: Islamic law.
gravenimage says
Shari’ah law *is* Islamic law. It is not a euphemism, PRCS.
PRCS says
1. I note that Robert Spencer uses “Islamic law”.
2. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Shariah
Sharīʿah
Islamic law
[My note: Shari’ah. Not Shari’ah law.]
Sharīʿah, also spelled Sharia, the fundamental religious concept of Islam, namely its law, systematized during the 2nd and 3rd centuries of the Muslim era (8th–9th centuries ce).
Total and unqualified submission to the will of Allah (God) is the fundamental tenet of Islam: Islamic law is therefore the expression of Allah’s command for Muslim society and, in application, constitutes a system of duties that are incumbent upon a Muslim by virtue of his religious belief. Known as the Sharīʿah (literally, “the path leading to the watering place”), the law constitutes a divinely ordained path of conduct that guides Muslims toward a practical expression of religious conviction in this world and the goal of divine favour in the world to come.
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The Shari’ah is the embodiment of, compliance with, Islamic law.
Thank you.
Sam says
Hope England will have more hero’s like this lady. SOON!
gravenimage says
Hear, hear, Sam!
kouldb says
Britain. The great failing Sharia state.
Sam says
This is advise to my self. “Talk more to everybody about Islam” Even it is painful and most of the time it is waste of time.
Also help Pamela and Robert and other fighters for freedom as much as you can.
Oh yeh one more. Get a gun and learn to use it.