What El Shafee Elsheikh says here is in full accord with Islamic law.
He gets justifiably irritated when the witless interviewer keeps asking him about the Beatles. She doesn’t ask him why he doesn’t listen to music. He doesn’t because Islam forbids music:
Hadith Qudsi 19:5: “The Prophet said that Allah commanded him to destroy all the musical instruments, idols, crosses and all the trappings of ignorance.” (The Hadith Qudsi, or holy Hadith, are those in which Muhammad transmits the words of Allah, although those words are not in the Qur’an.)
Muhammad also said:
(1) “Allah Mighty and Majestic sent me as a guidance and mercy to believers and commanded me to do away with musical instruments, flutes, strings, crucifixes, and the affair of the pre-Islamic period of ignorance.”
(2) “On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of whoever sits listening to a songstress.”
(3) “Song makes hypocrisy grow in the heart as water does herbage.”
(4) “This community will experience the swallowing up of some people by the earth, metamorphosis of some into animals, and being rained upon with stones.” Someone asked, “When will this be, O Messenger of Allah?” and he said, “When songstresses and musical instruments appear and wine is held to be lawful.”
(5) “There will be peoples of my Community who will hold fornication, silk, wine, and musical instruments to be lawful ….” — ‘Umdat al-Salik r40.0
And regarding slavery, slavery is acceptable in Islam.
The Qur’an has Allah telling Muhammad that he has given him girls as sex slaves: “Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives to whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty.” (Qur’an 33:50)
Muhammad bought slaves: “Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported: There came a slave and pledged allegiance to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man).” (Muslim 3901)
Muhammad took female Infidel captives as slaves: “Narrated Anas: The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer near Khaibar when it was still dark and then said, ‘Allahu-Akbar! Khaibar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a (hostile) nation (to fight), then evil will be the morning for those who have been warned.’ Then the inhabitants of Khaibar came out running on the roads. The Prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives. Safiya was amongst the captives. She first came in the share of Dahya Alkali but later on she belonged to the Prophet. The Prophet made her manumission as her ‘Mahr.’” (Bukhari 5.59.512) Mahr is bride price: Muhammad freed her and married her. But he didn’t do this to all his slaves:
Muhammad owned slaves: “Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah’s Apostle was on a journey and he had a black slave called Anjasha, and he was driving the camels (very fast, and there were women riding on those camels). Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Waihaka (May Allah be merciful to you), O Anjasha! Drive slowly (the camels) with the glass vessels (women)!’” (Bukhari 8.73.182) There is no mention of Muhammad’s freeing Anjasha.
“British ISIS ‘Beatle’ El Shafee Elsheikh in Interview from Captivity: I Don’t Denounce Slavery, Nothing Beats the West for Corruption,” MEMRI, April 8, 2018:
El Shafee Elsheikh, a member of the British ISIS cell known as the “Beatles,” which became notorious for its beheading videos of foreign hostages, gave an interview to journalist Jenan Moussa of Alaan TV from his cell. Elsheikh, who refused to answer questions regarding the charges against him, citing the “ongoing legal process,” said that he did not agree with everything ISIS did. When pressed by Moussa as to what things he opposed, he responded: “Traffic tickets… such things that have no basis in the law of Allah. ” With regard to the enslavement of Yazidi women, Elsheikh said: “I don’t denounce slavery. … Just because America decided to abolish something… It does not mean that every person has to run behind America and say: This is now an abominable act.” He further said that he decided to travel to Syria because of the oppression of Muslims worldwide. “Every environment has corruption, but nothing beats the West,” he said. The Sudanese-born Elsheikh, who was raised in London, is being held by the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces since his capture in January in eastern Syria, along with another member of the ISIS cell.
Linde Barrera says
My message to El Shafee Elsheikh is: You must stop worshipping your satanic god Allah and learn about the 1 true God Incarnate, Jesus Christ. You must pray for forgiveness that you killed and raped people. You must learn the truth that is in the Holy Bible and not the lies of the Quran. I will pray for you.
mummymovie says
Are you sure there’s time to pray for THIS GUY?!?!?
I can think of thousands of other people more deserving of your time.
gravenimage says
I’m praying *for his victims*.
Andy says
Stop Political Correctness!
Old time rock and roll now deemed hopelessly politically incorrect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bz5em1BiQY
Andy says
Ahab the Arab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNkdZaU_EhM&list=RDQNkdZaU_EhM&t=18
J D S says
Hadath tells him……Hadath…Koran… some writings that only the one true God knows who wrote,
but not from the one true GOD. Their Allah (unknown) can’t tell anyone to do anything because Allah does not exist, made up by muhammad (if muhammad ever really existed, very doubtful,no proof) Nuts like this guy have been brainwashed by a lot of old GEEZERS down through the centuries besides, muhammad (if he ever existed) was not and never could be seen as a prophet of God…..God gave JOHN the last prophecy that ever would be needed so He was God’s last prophet. John told it all..no need for more prophets!!! Time to put this muhammad prophet mess to rest and get on with the work God has for us to do ….WINNING SOULS for the kingdom.
Z says
Slavery isn’t abominable because America denounced it. It was wrong from the start. It just took us time to realize that
gravenimage says
+1
Rod says
Slavery —– was wrong from the start. It just took us time to realize that.
And it certainly did take you a bloody long time. Not to mention the centuries of unspeakable suffering of the victims, and a horrendous amount of blood spilt before you could be convinced.
Mohammed had slaves! Well, well, well – Fourteen centuries ago. Now how long ago was Jefferson? Remind me.
Can’t you allow this poor fool a few years or decades to comply with the mainstream teachings of his religion, just as you did to yours?
(And we don’t need to confuse you by delving into the fine print in certain passages of the Christian’s Holy Book and comparing them with the Koran, now do we?).
James says
Well, well, well, Rod is clueless. mohammed owned slaves 1400 years ago ya, and muslims have been the go to source for slaves ever since. Who do you think supplied the Atlantic slave trade, where did Jefferson buy his slaves circa 240 years ago? And as for delving into the fineprint of the Christian holy book, we call it the bible, I think that you had better because then you will see the sharp contrast between the teachings of Jesus Christ who condemns slavery 1 tim 1:10 and the koran with its prophet mohammed who heartely endorses all that is debased.
SteveFinSC says
Actually, Jefferson didn’t buy any slaves. He inherited them. He tried to free them, but was prevented by doing so by Virginia law which did not allow you to free your slaves if you were in debt. He had inherited much of his debt as well. He also tried to free his slaves in his will, but the same law prevented that because his estate was in debt.
Rod says
Such a relief to know that Jefferson didn’t buy his slaves, but inherited them. So that’s OK then. Perhaps his father bought them. Or his mother. And what a shame he couldn’t free his slaves, Steve, because of the law. Whose law would that have been? Mohammed’s law, or George Washington’s law? Best not to ask, perhaps.
Where did Jefferson, or his Dad, buy his slaves, James? Well, it wasn’t from Muslims. It was from good god-fearing American or British slave ship owners, who brought them over to the land of the ‘free’ for a price. Further, I may be mistaken here, but I believe that the West African tribes supplying slaves to those traders followed their own religions, not Islam.
And as for all of us good Christians ending slavery so long ago, and proving how far advanced and virtuous we are, by a strange coincidence, just last night I watched a TV program about thousands, yes thousands, of girls from Africa who are now trapped into slave-like prostitution, from which they can never escape because of the debts they incurred in reaching Europe. This is happening now, in European countries, particularly Italy, which as you know is the HQ of the most Christian of holier than thou Christians. Interesting, isn’t it, how easy it is to feel superior by ignoring reality. Would Christian countries really allow such things, so disturbingly reminiscent of the slave trade? Surely it must actually be in Saudi Arabia?
I am disappointed to see how readily you good Christians will disown your Old Testament, because it doesn’t suit you any longer to follow its teachings. Your grandparents would be most disapproving. So would Jefferson. But times change. Yet you insist that every Muslim must adhere strictly to every word of the Koran. Again, reality doesn’t seem to exert much influence on you people, does it?
SteveFinSC says
Gee Rod… dislike Christians much?
My point about Jefferson was that he was in favor of ending the institution and was willing to walk-the-walk by freeing his own. As for whose law… It was first British Colonial Law and then VA state law. You have to remember that the Founders largely maintained the status quo legally in the new US after the Revolution which helped prevent the descent into chaos experienced later in France.
You are correct that most slaves brought to the Americas were bought from West African tribes who captured members of other tribes in war. Tribalism is like that. Africans were brought to the new world as slaves not because racist Whites thought them less than human. They were brought here because they were available. There were no African governments that could or would protect the people from being taken away. The racist crap began later as a means to justify their slavery after they were already here. That happened after the closing of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade in 1808.
As for “I am disappointed to see how readily you good Christians will disown your Old Testament, because it doesn’t suit you any longer to follow its teachings,” let me say this: Christians haven’t disowned the Old Testament; it just not longer applies. With the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Old Covenant that God made with Israel was fulfilled. God created a New Covenant with all of mankind in which we have only to believe in and testify to the resurrection of Jesus to be saved rather than the previous complicated and apparently difficult process of reconciliation of man with God. As such, the dietary and societal laws described in the Old Testament were Israel’s obligations under the Old Covenant. Christians, who are not Israelites, are not bound by those obligations or societal laws. The Apostle Paul says that the Old Testament is good for the edification of the young but that we are not bound to follow it.
As for, “Yet you insist that every Muslim must adhere strictly to every word of the Koran,” I say this: The Muslims have a doctrine of abrogation in which newer verses cancel out older verses when there is a contradiction. So no, I don’t say that they are required to believe or practice every verse in the Koran. But, many of the peaceful verses so often quoted by the defenders of Islam have in fact been abrogated by later verses which say the exact opposite. The Islam-is-the-religion-of-peace crowd hopes that the rest of us don’t know about abrogation. Believe me when I say that the folks who teach and practice Islam know exactly which verses are valid and need to be followed. To truly understand abrogation you would need a Koran with the verses arranged in chronological order.
As for the girls trapped in slavery by the debts they incurred being brought to Europe – Who is holding them in slavery? Not the Italians. They’re being kept in that state by their own people. That the Italians are unable or unwilling to correct this situation is easy to understand. First, the girls in question are not hanging out on a street corner. They’ve been taken into the bowels of the closed Muslim communities they joined upon arrival. Second, how can Europeans address anything to do with the Muslim community when the slightest criticism is met with howls of racism and Islamophobia. So either people know nothing about that situation or are powerless to act in the face of the government and media assault on them. Additionally, although the Vatican is located in Italy, I wouldn’t call Italy the “HQ of the most Christian of holier than thou Christians.” Italy, like the rest of Europe is almost totally secular. There is no Christendom there anymore. Western Civilization is teetering on the brink and doesn’t seem to have the will to fight and survive. This is largely because of Christ-haters like you. Congratulations. You’ve done a good job. I hope you can keep your head under the new regime.
gravenimage says
Rod wrote:
Such a relief to know that Jefferson didn’t buy his slaves, but inherited them…
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There is no doubt that Jefferson and many others did not live up to their ideals in all matters, and no where is this more striking than when it came to the issue of slavery.
But it was the Enlightenment ideals that he espoused that would lead to the abolition of slavery in Britain, in America, and in the rest of the West.
In contrast, slavery has never ended in the Muslim world, where it continues to this day on the model of the “Prophet” who himself enslaved his victims. In fact, slavery is now *resurgent* in much of Dar-al-Islam today.
More:
Where did Jefferson, or his Dad, buy his slaves, James? Well, it wasn’t from Muslims. It was from good god-fearing American or British slave ship owners, who brought them over to the land of the ‘free’ for a price. Further, I may be mistaken here, but I believe that the West African tribes supplying slaves to those traders followed their own religions, not Islam.
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Musims largely ran the African slave trade, and this began long before the Atlantic slave trade, and has long since outlasted it. There are sales of African slaves in Libya *today*:
“Libya: Muslims selling black migrant slaves for as little as $400”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/11/libya-muslims-selling-black-migrant-slaves-for-as-little-as-400
I suppose “Rod” hopes we do not know this.
More:
And as for all of us good Christians ending slavery so long ago, and proving how far advanced and virtuous we are, by a strange coincidence, just last night I watched a TV program about thousands, yes thousands, of girls from Africa who are now trapped into slave-like prostitution, from which they can never escape because of the debts they incurred in reaching Europe. This is happening now, in European countries, particularly Italy, which as you know is the HQ of the most Christian of holier than thou Christians. Interesting, isn’t it, how easy it is to feel superior by ignoring reality. Would Christian countries really allow such things, so disturbingly reminiscent of the slave trade? Surely it must actually be in Saudi Arabia?
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What a lot of claptrap. It is not the West that is doing this. This sort of thing is *illegal* in the West, and is prosecuted where discovered.
Here is one such story:
“Italy, Nigeria Take Action Against Human Trafficking”
https://www.un.org/press/en/2004/soccp278.doc.htm
More:
I am disappointed to see how readily you good Christians will disown your Old Testament, because it doesn’t suit you any longer to follow its teachings. Your grandparents would be most disapproving. So would Jefferson.
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Is this some sort of insinuation that our grandparents were stoning adulterers? Who knows?
More:
But times change. Yet you insist that every Muslim must adhere strictly to every word of the Koran. Again, reality doesn’t seem to exert much influence on you people, does it?
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The idea that the problem is that we filthy Infidels are insisting that Muslims strictly adhere to the Qur’an is ridiculous. The problem is that pious *Muslims* insist on this, and as a result they are raping and slaughtering unbelievers all over the world.
In fact, many in the West *wish* that Muslims didn’t embrace the vicious diktats of their creed–but all too many of them do.
Notice that “Rod” has *no* problem with this good Jihadist preaching slavery today, but is enraged over the already much criticized shortcomings of the American founding fathers. He seems to be fine with this fine fellow beheading his victims, as well.
gravenimage says
The implication that Islam ended slavery centuries before the West did is utter tripe.
It is the West that abolished slavery–not only did the Islamic world not lead the way, they have not ended slavery now. In fact, it is *resurgent* in the Muslim world, on the model of the “Prophet”.
SteveFinSC says
Actually, many of the Muslim countries only “officially” ended slavery in the 1960s under pressure from the West. However an article I read a couple of years ago stated that when ISIS set up their slave market in Raqa, the best girls were alsway set aside for wealthy men from the Gulf States – i.e., Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, etc. – you know, our allies. So, they haven’t reeaaalllly outlawed it all, only on paper.
gravenimage says
True, Steve. There were still open slave markets in Riyadh when I was a toddler. And many Muslim countries have never ended slavery–an estimated 17% of the population of Mauritania is enslaved.
J D S says
Woah…..Honest Ali
You are comparing GOD to allah (? unknown)…No comparisons..GOD wins every time. Have a good day
J D S says
James …….Rod is type of people that are doomed to that awful, forever burning lake of fire. Unless he finds Jesus the Christ of course and there is still yet time for those people but time Is running out. Pray for them.
J D S says
Muhammad (if he ever existed..NO PROOF) was illiterate he stole his writings from the old and new Testament, ( if one compared and studies closely one can find the comparisons how he stole his so called writings) having someone read them to him and of course trying to remember then have someone writing for him, one can see how confused he may have been plus the ones writing for him were also confused so what came out if all that was a conglomerate, mish mash quagmire now called the Koran.
Oh yes what about prophets……Read Chapter 4 of 1st John to see about prophets. One will find there why muhammad mentioned Jesus maybe the whole book of 1st John might enlighten…..Oh no Muslims can’t DELVE into the only holy book the the Holy Bible…Wonder why? Because if they did
They could soon discover that they have been lied to and hoodwinked.
Z says
This isn’t about the past. This about the people suffering today. If you have time to try and place blame on us for something someone else did, you have time to notice that ISIS is doing it now.
Jefferson was a great man who founded this country and put it on the path to liberty. And I do everything I can to ensure that legacy
Ashley says
I like when El Shafee Elsheikh said that the FBI were the least respectable. I can appreciate that.
Robert is right…Jenan Moussa is a half-wit. I was waiting for her to blurt out “I think you were Ringo.”
Sam says
What a good muslim! Did not even look at the “uncovered” infidel woman. (raping is ok tough)
What is the trial for? Did ISIS had trial for thousands of people they killed? How many innocent people they slaughtered as ordered by Allah?
Diane Harvey says
But these murdering Muslims sure know that double-standards of the left. “We can kill with impunity, but when it comes to us, give us all we’re due.” Might not work out so well for these two; read,
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/04/09/isis-beheaders-sure-give-us-due-process-please/
Savvy Kafir says
Sounds like a fun guy!
Actually, I hate to think about what El Shafee Elsheikh probably does for fun. There’s no joy in Islam — except for the joy of raping, killing, oppressing, & pillaging. The same sort of savage behaviors the prophet Muhammad himself enjoyed.
mariam rove says
It is amazing that he cites on going legal……etc.Yes beheading and slaving all kosher. m
jewdog says
Squash that Beatle.
Sentinel says
The shame is that for the cost of two bullets we wouldn’t have to listen to the ravings of these barbarian lunatics. The last thing anyone should be doing is interviewing them as if they are some kind of celebrities.
Giacomo Latta says
Alas, Marxists will never listen to the likes of us. Our only hope is that they listen to a horse’s mouth such as the likes of this pathetic excuse for a human being.
Savvy Kafir says
One (proper) bullet, well-placed, would do nicely. And that really is the solution, when dealing with these savages. They are enemy combatants, who will never give up the fight, as long as they draw breath.
If we are going to win this global war that the Allah junkies have thrust upon us, MANY of them will have to die. We need to get to it; and we need to be efficient.
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IQ al Rassooli says
Dear JW readers, please NEVER call Allah GOD because Allah is most assuredly NOT the same as the God of the Bible
Those who understand Arabic will find out instantly that the translators of the Quran deliberately DECEIVE Arabic ignorant readers by translating the Arabic ALLAH of the Quran to GOD hence inserting subliminally into the reader’s mind that Allah and God are one and the same
For those who do not know: God in Arabic is ILAH. Allah is only the NAME of an Ilah
Anyone who has researched these subjects will come to the following conclusion ONLY:
Allah, Gabriel & Satan in the Quran are the voices over of the ventriloquist Muhammad
Is there any Muslim challenger?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTuFA1fQ-yg&feature=youtu.be&a
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
gravenimage says
+1
Garfield says
Islam is a death cult.
They hate everything we love.
mikhael says
lock him and force feed him those horrible old songs from the crooners
gravenimage says
ISIS kept slaves and sex slaves, drowned people, burned them to death, crucified kids who snuck a snack during Ramadan, and engaged in genocide–some of us think the worst thing is making people listen to music we don’t like.
Different moral universes…
PRCS says
“Life in Raqqa is like life anywhere else, it’s normal. You do normal stuff. Everything normal people do. Like life anywhere else.”
Oh, yeh.
Just like my neighborhood. Simply can’t tell you how many times I’ve walked from my house past the rows of heads impaled on wrought iron fences on my way to the park where some parents play kick the head and cheer their little jihadis on to shoot, stab and behead “unbelievers”, or less frequently, the times I’ve stood with rocks of the prescribed size at the ready to stone any remaining life from a homosexual who’s just been thrown from a tall building at the town’s square.
Just like everywhere else.
gravenimage says
+1
patbishop says
true. the Quran description of Allah matches EXACTLY with the Bible description of Satan!
Wellington says
Just another brainwashed Muslim (excuse the redundancy).
utis says
The interviewer did not do her homework (what else is new with Post-modern “journalism?”). I admit that I found out by accident, but I did read an article that said the ISIS prisoners called these four men the Beatles because of their English accents. Since the designation started as a POW effort to maintain sanity and minimal control through humor in a hellish situation, I will no longer grouse about the name, but the stupid newsies should as least mention the source of the name, and not use it in any positive way.
gravenimage says
True.
Indiana Tom says
Roll up for the Magical Mystery Tour.
gravenimage says
Video: Islamic State “Beatle” says “I don’t listen to music…I don’t denounce slavery”
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Muslim “morality”–listening to music is bad; slaverey is fine.
More:
Elsheikh, who refused to answer questions regarding the charges against him, citing the “ongoing legal process,” said that he did not agree with everything ISIS did. When pressed by Moussa as to what things he opposed, he responded: “Traffic tickets… such things that have no basis in the law of Allah. ”
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ISIS raped little Yezidi girls and used them as sex slaves, burned victims to death who resisted rape, murdered and crucified kids who had snacks during Ramadan, and engaged in out and out genocide. It was one of the most horrific regimes in human history.
But all this pious Muslim objects to is their handing out traffic tickets…
John says
This cunt is furious over parking tickets but less so over torture and beheadings. Muslim bastard.
Z says
The only Beatles I’ll listen are ones that sing about yellow submarines
Lydia Church says
Nothing is more corrupt and vile than islam which legalizes every evil sin!
Lydia Church says
What I fault the West with is…. opening the draw bridge and gate for the trojan horse called the muslim migrant invasion!
Baucent says
“When pressed by Moussa as to what things he opposed, he responded: “Traffic tickets… such things that have no basis in the law of Allah. ”
This guy is a more orthodox Islamist than some even in ISIS, it would seem.
concealed carry illinois law text says
The state police have 6 months to set up the requirements, but it will include 18 hours
of training. No clue on the reciprocity yet.
MoInTheKnow says
Euthanasia is too good and too quick for these scum.
I would recommend the traditional English fate for traitors: Hang, draw and quarter them!
FYI says
Perhaps that arrogant, savage, islamic creature should listen to the following{somewhat abridged} song from ex-Beatle
John Lennon..
IMAGINE THERE’S NO islam
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“Imagine there’s no allah….it’s easy if you try.
no koran to misguide them,..no more islamic lie
imagine all those muslims,
living from day to day..
{dreary piano muzak..}
Oohh…yeaaah
Imagine there’s no islam,
it isn’t hard to do.
Nothing to kill or die for
and no islam religion too.
Imagine all the people living life in peace.
YOU may say that I’m a dreamer,
but I’m not the only one.
I hope some day you’ll leave .. allah…
and then the world will be as one.
OOhh—yeaah…..
Civilus Defendus says
Rich in jihadi “behavioral indicators”…if the media, punditry, military or intelligence were allowed to know anything about hijra, dawah, jihad, sharia, mohammed…you know, islam.
gravenimage says
I love this idiot Jihadist saying the Europeans are jealous of the lives of those living in violent Islamic crapholes.