My name is Christian Finch. In August 2017, I was interviewed by the UK counter terrorism police, which I recorded and posted on SoundCloud. You may be asking yourself what kind of dangerous incitement to violence it could have been to warrant the attention of the UK counter terrorism police… All I did was tell the truth about Islam on Facebook and criticise Theresa May, calling her a traitor to the people of Britain for actively attempting to subvert the people’s mandate to leave the EU by turning it into a mass burglary and keeping us as shadow members.
I would like to preface this by providing some of my family history, which I believe may help the reader to understand my mindset and the motivational factors that led to my little run-in with the government. I would guess that most people reading this would have had your own names for your grandparents, but I called mine Oma and Opa. Opa, of course, had a real name, which was Josef Neuhaus, and the stories that he used to tell me when I was a child were the precursor to this whole series of events that I have willingly trundled into.
Opa had lived in Germany during the rise of the National Socialist regime, so during his life he had seen the sociopolitical atmosphere of the country that he loved change for the definite worse. Like the rise of any dangerous authoritarian regime, the fuel on which the Nazi Party thrived was fear, ignorance and extreme ideological subversion. Opa and my mother told me stories of how week in and week out, the police would turn up to his house, then haul his father away to be questioned and interrogated for days. As it turned out, my great grandfather didn’t like the Nazis or Hitler and he wasn’t shy about saying it publicly, to the distress of anyone who knew him. My mum would elaborate on how her dad and his family would always spend days worrying that this time he may not return.
I remember as a child feeling a great deal of pride and admiration for my great grandfather, who in my eyes and the eyes of my family is a hero. Authoritarian regimes always target dissenters and go to any length to restrict free speech under any excuse that they can find, because the awesome power of truth has a unique way of exposing corruption, cutting through double speak and ruining insidious plans like a gust of wind blowing over a house of cards. The Nazi Party relied on the same manner of ideological fear politics that the modern day identity politics-peddling corrupt establishment relies on now. First, they would attack any dissenters, labelling them unpatriotic or communist sympathisers (now it’s racist or Islamophobe); then second would come more direct measures. The thing with free speech is that it cannot be taken away, only given away through fear; however, my great grandfather wasn’t afraid of that authoritarian regime, and I’m not scared of this one, which seems to be strangling our beloved country.
Many may think that my calling the British government an authoritarian regime and comparing it to the Nazis is a good way over the top, but let’s take a look at the facts of the matter. In my lifetime, schools have gone from open playgrounds to looking like prisons, while in direct contravention of the Magna Carta (which is a peace treaty between the crown and the people), religious courts have been set up all around our land. First came the laws that reduced our freedom of assembly to having to beg permission from the government to protest, then came further and further restrictions on our freedom of speech and expression under law. While the government concentrates all of its efforts to destroying what little freedom we have left, terrorist atrocities are committed with near impunity up and down the country, and in true Soviet style, thought police interrogated me for voicing my disdain for an ideology that promotes the killing and enslavement of nonbelievers.
I have been asked now a multitude of times why I took the risk of recording the police officers who were interviewing me, or why I even talked to them at all. The truth is that after witnessing the quite rapid erosion of our civil rights and liberties, as well as witnessing the persecution of Mark Meechen over years for making a comedy video on YouTube, I had just had enough. When I got the call from the police to attend Chorley police station, I was glad, because it gave me the opportunity to expose how truly bad things have become to everyone.
After the police interview, I received a knock on my door on at least three separate occasions from the counter terrorism officers, who “just came to see how I was doing,” and of course recommended that I engage with the Channel counter extremism programme. After telling them that I had recorded the interview, my phone mysteriously disappeared from my house, while the expensive Sony laptop, my bank card and cash that I had left lying around remained untouched.
Allow me to summarise this by saying, make no mistake, we as a country have stepped well and truly through the looking glass. If you tow the line, watch your TV and keep your mouth shut, then you’ll slowly just lose what is left of your freedom. However, if you open your mouth, then they will come after you. Unless we as a nation begin to open our eyes to the seriousness of this situation, we are well and truly lost.
Michael says
What you’ve discovered, Christian, is that the British police have transferred their allegiance from Freemasonry to Islam.
Andy says
God bless you Mr. Finch!!
Thank you so much for taking a stand and telling the truth and speaking out against the most insidious evil (Islam) of our times!
i HOPE we get MORE people like YOU to take a STAND and SPEAK OUT!! AGAINST ISLAM!!
Take care & THANK YOU AGAIN Mr. Finch,
Cheers!
Andy
P.S. Here is another PATRIOT who is taking a stand and speaking out!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWOXYIpBAco
Fuji says
Freemasonry has nothing to do with Islam. Their allegiance is to globalism. Plain and simple.
Julea Bacall says
Their allegiance was not to ‘freemasonry’. In fact that sounds like insinuated bigotry. And nothing in the actual ‘freemasonry’ an old union which called for killing people off or making the world their own personal caliphate.
Whether you are or not, White Supremacists/Nazigroups ruin any chance of showing how and why Islam cannot be practiced in USA without committing crimes or attempting to get into government and our laws. Because white Supremacists/Nazis have many of the same problems as Islam and are just too similar.
elee says
Pray publicly for Allah to kill the Jews and kafirs and they’ll leave you in peace. Then proclaim yourself “moderate” and they’ll throw money at you.
Berengaria says
This is Chilling to the Blood of any Patriot, but the silencing of Dissent has reached across the Pond & is active in my own Country. No longer do Most Conservatives use Social Media. Speech is now monitored by Young Leftists, who decide what Speak is Hate Speak & what Speak is Permitted to the “Community”. It’s a Very Chilling Atmosphere.
Julea Bacall says
But it is true that Qur’anic hate speech should be broadcast in Mosques. That is just fact. And neither should nazimanifestos. Just fact. There are boundaries to free speech like copy writes, slander, libel, inciting violence, and some others that you can look up. Some people seem to think the amendment means ANYthing is ok and it is not.
Jack Holan says
Perhaps many have forgottten the Queens either Thanksgiving or Christmas Message. She asked the Her Subjects to forgive her for allowing Dark Men to to takie over the Power in England and steal their Freedoms. She didn’t get further than this before being pulled from the airwaves and escorted to an unknown destination. She was held incommunicado for a few days and silenced.
Save Europe says
We don’t have Thanksgiving in the UK, Sir.
gravenimage says
Things are bad enough in the UK now without making things up. Of course, Thanksgiving is not a British holiday.
But the Queen actually *did* touch on the threat of Jihad in her last Christmas message:
“Queen’s Christmas message includes horrors of jihad terror attacks in London and Manchester”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/12/queens-christmas-message-includes-horrors-of-jihad-terror-attacks-in-london-and-manchester
She should have spoken much more forcefully, though.
Andy says
+1
Save Europe says
I know, as I watched it here in England. I don’t disagree with you, but the Royals are effectively prohibited from engaging in politics. What you mean – respectfully – is Sharia May, after one of the terrorist attacks last year should have said more than ‘enough is enough’, as she did. We know what she wanted to really say, and extend on, but failed to do so, and ‘turkeyed out on.’ That’s the bigger disgrace.
DBM echo says
The man speaks the truth. Now if more Brits will do the same, elect new representatives who understand and who will change policies.
Remember, when we speak of freedom, we speak of freedom FROM government, seeking that balance where we have as minimalist government as possible. Today, the UK is a long stretch from that balance. Going from citizens to be respected to subjects being ruled.
Striking the balance per Federalist 51, “If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.”
Julea Bacall says
Does Britain have a constitution or laws in conflict which a lawyer can fight?
Ashley says
Thank you for this post, Mr. Finch.
I found this particularly disturbing:
After the police interview, I received a knock on my door on at least three separate occasions from the counter terrorism officers, who “just came to see how I was doing,” and of course recommended that I engage with the Channel counter extremism programme. After telling them that I had recorded the interview, my phone mysteriously disappeared from my house…
Glad you were able to upload your audio to SoundCloud before your phone got pilfered.
Stay safe.
gravenimage says
Yes–very disturbing.
the dutch patriot says
Never talk to the police..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE&t=681s
Make that: Never talk to any British government official!
Both the Tories and the British communist party are a bloody shame for that once great nation..
Save Europe says
As a Limey who lived in your country for many years, I can say – truly – how much I love the Netherlands, but you too have massive problems. Whether it’s an area like the Sharia Triangle in Den Haag, the emergence of the Denk political party or to leaders like Mark Rutte, you need to clean your house out too sadly. Massive problems.
gravenimage says
I love Geert Wilders–but he is much maligned.
Save Europe says
And in sufficiently supported.
the dutch patriot says
No doubt about that! We do have massive problems in the Netherlands. Anyone who mentions the Sharia Triangle is well informed about our situation.
I support and vote for mr.Wilders but we are a tiny majority. Treated like animals by the other Dutch people and parties. Attacked by muslims. Brought in court for our opinions. As if one no longer lives in his own country.
I dont see a way out through the ballot box anymore. I want to warn you guys in the US. Keep the US a sharia free society and if possible a communist free place! kind regards from the Hague.
the dutch patriot says
make that tiny minority. Although we make up 10% of the population the rest is strongly agaiinst us.. One can not openly say they support Wilders.
Julea Bacall says
Have you found any way possible to even trick regular people into LEARNING what Islam is. It is not what they think or what they have been told and this has to be overcome. Otherwise they really think we are bigots with hateful opinions about people…..but it is the Qur’an/Hadiths. Moderate/ radical makes not much difference because as long as there is a Qur’an taught as if it is ( the warlord added passages) WORD of ALLAH for Today, there is huge trouble, apartheid, intolerant, anti Human rights, abuse, punishment, fear etc. People have to be shown what this stuff really is and none of them are going to take the time to read it. Or if they do read part, they think that is just stuff from old time and no one goes by it today. They miss the Supremacist goal , whether violent or political, that is actually alot like modern Capitalism in technique.
We have to figure out how to SHOW them what it is without coming across like bigots OR allying with any real bigots.
Julea Bacall says
What is in the Dutch Constitution or Laws that conflict with Islam? If I had money, I would hire a good lawyer who could Publicly put them on trial. In USA, no Religion sets the rules and this is a good thing. Evangelicals have no idea the damage they do and the doors they open for Islam.
Jean Terry says
I can’t believe this is happening in Britain. Do the police really believe in what they are doing? Many of them must hate doing the job of monitoring their own citizens for using their free speech rights. I think you should all take the streets and do a massive protest and then vote in some people who have your best interests at heart before it is too late. Can’t the powers that be see what they are doing? Or are they cowards who appease Muslims but have no problem controlling native born English people. If you don’t do something, Great Britain is lost and will be a Muslim country where you will have no rights at all.
Michael says
Yes, they really do believe in what they’re doing. And they’re not cowards who appease Muslims. They are themselves Muslims in the sole sense that they believe that Muhammad is truly the messenger of Allah and that the law of the land is and ought to be the law of Allah as given through Muhammad. They’re just waiting for the right moment to make their change of allegiance overt.
George Williams says
The United Kingdom is a democracy. What’s wrong with these people, that they keep electing tyrants year after year. Unlike the communist states, they have a choice. The sickness is not with the government, but with the people who elect it.
Save Europe says
If we had a party like the AfD or PVV then there would be ‘options’. We sadly don’t. Some people prattle on about Anne Marie Waters and her new party being saviours – she’s an ex (???) Leftist who is in all honesty, one of the few, within her LGBT Community which fears Islam. Despite not being gay myself, I DO applaud her for that. However, I find her incredibly non erudite, and not very potentially, Prime Ministerial -plus she’s not British. I have nothing against Irish people, but if one has a non indigenous accent in a country in which one runs in, it automatically ‘shuts off’ part of the electorate in voting for you.
Rob says
But who else do we UK citizens elect, there’re just three parties, of which one is near non-existent, and all three are closed-minded when it comes to the islamic take-over threat?!
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Mr Finch, your Great Grandfather would be (I am assuming he is no longer with us – my apologies if I am wrong) extremely proud of you. You honour his memory by your courage.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
libertyORdeath says
Well said. Thank you Christian, keep fighting the good fight!
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
The moment police are engaged in asking people about their political beliefs, a red flag should go up.
The police actually had the audacity to ask him to, “sit down with an Islamic scholar …,” as if he needed to be deprogrammed from his way of thinking. (Interestingly, Mr Finch is far more knowledgeable than the police who are trying to correct his politics.) Clearly, Britain’s counter-terrorism police are actually (and it would seem, inadvertently) Britain’s Shariah police.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Mr. Finch!
Save Europe says
I admire Christian, immeasurably, for being polite, erudite, calm and charming ,when talking to the police, but very respectfully I would not have tolerated being labelled Far Right, or being told that I would inevitably go down some ‘certain path,’ after, potentially, attending a rally. Christian isn’t far Right! You make it clear at the beginning that Muslims aren’t a race of people. Case in point – a Coptic Christian Egyptian is exactly the same ethnicity as a Muslim Egyptian. It is clear the Police are spinning plates – ie attempting to defuse potential future flash points in society, and are placating and appeasing. Respectfully also, I’d have refused to speak to the Imam for two reasons 1) because of taqqiya being potentially espoused 2) seeing an Ahmadi Imam, who would of course espouse peace and tolerance, because that’s what they always do, as they’re the heretics, according to Sunnis.
M says
I hate to say it but it looks like good by England
Farewell to England!
Mayor of London .. Muslim Mayor of Birmingham .. MUSLIM
Mayor of Leeds … MUSLIM
Mayor of Blackburn … MUSLIM
Mayor of Sheffield … MUSLim
Mayor of Oxford .. MUSLIM
Mayor of Luton …. MUSLIM
Mayor of Oldham … MUSLIM
Mayor of Rochdale … MUSLIM
All the following achieved by just 4 million Muslims out of the 66 million population:
Over 3,000 Muslim Mosque
Over 130 Muslim Sharia Courts
Over 50 Muslim Sharia Councils
Muslims Only No-Go Areas Across The UK
Muslim Women.. 78% don’t work and are on FREE benefits/housing
Muslim Men… 63% don’t work and are on FREE benefits/housing
Muslim Families… 6-8 children on FREE benefits/housing and now all UK schools are ONLY serving HALAL MEAT where a jizya tax has been paid to the muslim clerics!!
gravenimage says
All of this is grimly true.
This story is about a patriotic Briton who is standing up for this civilized culture, though–a not insignificant thing.
Ezra says
I gather from the examples and anecdotes that the British people no longer give a tinkers damn about their country, its freedoms and what it has stood for during the past millennium. Maybe it is time to cede the country to the moslems?
kuriakose says
@M
Thank you for those stats. Can I use them in discussion with friends?
Lynda Hynes says
Your Opa was a hero, Mr Finch, and so are you.
Bhagat Singh says
TBH I have no sympathy for the british. They grew (literally) fat and lazy feeding off their “empire” where they committed genocide an order of magnitude larger than the holocaust. Irleland, India, China the list is endless.
Then they imported these scum from mostly Mirpur Kashmir and they’re learning what it means to be invaded.
Save Europe says
I don’t recall myself, or others, currently alive now, also living during the time of the Empire, and thus, I don’t see why anyone in 2018 should be made to feel culpable. You’re essentially wallowing in a supposed victimhood – plus it’s also a bigoted mentality you have, of sorts. I have zero problem with non Muslim Indians being in the UK for example.
Rob says
+1
Peter says
Why does this guy have to explain himself to the so-called counter-terrorism branch (aka Thought Police)??? Let alone have to go to their office?
Loren says
Help! Just because I like to read jihadwatch and listen to RT and see what Assange,Tommy Robinson, John Pilger and others have to say that seem to have ‘their finger on a different pulse’ – not that I believe any one person knows it all, but now I’ve been called a racist. I’m not exactly sure how to answer them gently (I’m a 100lb pensioner so gently is the order of the day!!!) Can anyone help me have the right answer plse. many thanks
Lydia Church says
Ask them to explain themselves. Then slowly disassemble their fallacious arguments one stick at a time.
Carolyne says
Mr. Finch, I cannot begin to tell you how much I admire you and how brave I think you are. I am an Anglophile. I have visited the UK many times. My ancestors, being British, actually did fight against you in the American War of Independence, but we never stopped loving you……until now. My heart is broken that the land of Magna Carta, William Shakespeare and Winston Churchill is being vanquished by a barbaric foreign army without, for the most part, even a whimper. I hope I would be as brave as you were when confronted by your pseudo-Gestapo, but one never knows until one is actually in such a position. I know this, though: the civilized world is being taken over by Islam, with the connivance of Western governmental leaders and while a few voices, such as yours, are raised against them, the majority of mindless dolts the world over either fail to notice it or are in denial, a main topic of concern being what will Meghan Markle wear to her wedding or did Donald Trump really have a sexual relationship with that woman.
I have walked among the stones at Stonehenge (when one could actually do that) and have marveled at what your (and my) ancestors accomplished. I have placed flowers at Runnymede on the little plot of America dedicated to JFK. I have stood in the little room at Holyrood where Rizzio was murdered and in the room where the Queen Mother was born at Glams. I am saddened that I will never see these things agai . Because I will never again travel to the UK and because once the Muslims complete their takeover, these sights will be destroyed. But I will keep them in my memory, just as I will keep the England we knew and loved.
Carolyne says
A few typos such as Glams which should be Glamis, but the sentiment is the same.
Lydia Church says
“If you tow the line, watch your TV and keep your mouth shut, then you’ll slowly just lose what is left of your freedom. However, if you open your mouth, then they will come after you. Unless we as a nation begin to open our eyes to the seriousness of this situation, we are well and truly lost.”
That hits it on the nail. The same was true during the holocaust. By the way, April 12th was Holocaust Remembrance Day, and over on Lighthouse Trails Research Project website’s blog, there is an article about how much of the population is forgetting and does not even know what the term means! Scary! That is when history repeats itself.
We see the same climate today as before the holocaust. Only this time, it will be a global regime. It is slowly creeping across the world and persecution of Christians is the #1 sign, and their ultimate goal.
Anyway, during the holocaust there were few resistance workers, few who dared stand up to the evil. And they were true heroes, like the one who shared this article with us. I thank each and every one of them! I am right there with you in the march.
I always emphasize certain things for a reason. The same is true today as back in the time of the rise of the nazis. Few are willing to stand up and resist. The more the better. But why are there so few?
Several things are at play there.
1. It takes a virtuous person to truly oppose evil. There are not too many.
2. It also takes a self sacrificial person. It is like when Jesus told us to ‘count the cost.’ We must be willing to die for the cause. I am willing to die for my Christian faith, and there are also many other related issues. It often comes down to the fork in the road; support good or support evil. During the nazi rise to power and beyond, a person eventually had two choices: 1) speak out against the evil, or 2) shut up and lay low for self preservation. Even if one was never interrogated for being a Christian as in other times, a decision was still required and a true Christian could only make one choice (#1) above, which would ultimately lead to death. Thus I count them among the martyrs of the faith since there was no other path for them and that one lead to their death. It is similar today, some of the persecution is directly for being a Christian, other forms are indirect but come to you as a result of being a Christian. We see this increasing in the US nowadays.
3. It takes a brave person. Eventually the fork in the road will reach us all. Most will not have the backbone to resist the evil agenda. For self survival, they will make the wrong choice. In the end, it comes down to:
Path 1: Give up your life and comfort for your Christian faith, values, morals, and defending the human rights of others. This takes many forms. Standing up against false religions, terrorism, persecution, murder of people groups (like during the holocaust), violence of all forms, freedom of speech, democracy, etc. A righteous person cannot stand by and remain silent while innocent civilians are carted off to death camps, even less can they give their approval in any way, such as the hitler salute, or allow their children to be indoctrinated into the evils of islam or other pagan religions, etc.
Path 2: Save your life and ‘go with the flow.’ Remember, the flow leads to hell.
“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it.” Matthew 7; 13-14
“Then Jesus told His disciples, “If anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?” Matthew 16; 24-26
Being a Christian=being a disciple of Jesus=being His witness=proclaiming His Truth and living righteously=resisting evil and refusing sin and false religion=suffering persecution and even martyrdom at times
It is not a hammock ride. You may be called upon at ANY time to give your life as a testimony of your faith in Jesus. The time is getting closer.
Lydia Church says
Path 1: violence of all forms, and defense of freedom of speech and democracy…
correction
Lydia Church says
So we stand against evil things and we stand for good things…
hopefully it is clear!
; D
Edward says
Straight out of 1984.
The position of the police is not enviable, but they are tasked with preventing near-term violence and countering the amplifications of the echo chamber of social media on radicalization, hopefully on both sides of a paradigm. They can’t address the larger issues of the consequence of economic immigration of adherents of a religion with roots during the multigenerational wars of the crusades, which resist assimilation and promote domination through birth rates and separation of education and laws.
A society in conflict and in danger of losing itself amid its honorable obligation to the descendants of former loyal colonials.
This cautionary tale of society in cultural conflict with external and internal forces is very dramatic and enlightening, but frighteningly real.
Carolyne says
Didn’t expect a sermon. Didn’t even have to go to church.