Finnish authorities might as well surrender to the local Islamic authorities and establish Sharia rule now. They’re not just Finnish, they’re finished. Their decision in this case is of a piece with statements by Islamic authorities regarding child marriage:
“Islam has no age barrier in marriage and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this” — Ishaq Akintola, professor of Islamic Eschatology and Director of Muslim Rights Concern, Nigeria
“There is no minimum marriage age for either men or women in Islamic law. The law in many countries permits girls to marry only from the age of 18. This is arbitrary legislation, not Islamic law.” — Dr. Abd Al-Hamid Al-‘Ubeidi, Iraqi expert on Islamic law
There is no minimum age for marriage and that girls can be married “even if they are in the cradle.” — Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, prominent cleric and member of Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council
“Islam does not forbid marriage of young children.” — Pakistan’s Council of Islamic Ideology
“Sex with 10yo not rape, Finnish court rules in migrant’s case,” RT, May 5, 2018 (thanks to Ralph):
In a case that has triggered public outrage, a top Finnish court has upheld a ruling that sex between an asylum seeker and a 10-year-old girl didn’t constitute rape. Critics are calling for harsher sentences for child abuse.
Finland’s Supreme Court rejected a request from the prosecution to appeal a three-year jail term for a 23-year-old man on Thursday. Finnish media identify him as Juusuf Muhamed Abbudin, an asylum seeker, but don’t reveal his country of origin.
The man was convicted of aggravated sexual abuse, although the prosecution had sought a harsher sentence on charges of aggravated rape. However, the court left the original verdict unchanged.
The incident took place near the city of Tampere in southern Pirkanmaa region in autumn 2016. The man had sexual intercourse with a girl, who was 10-years old at the time, in the yard of a deserted apartment block. He also exchanged sexually charged messages with her.
Both Pirkanmaa District Court and the Appeal Court in the city of Turku convicted the asylum seeker of aggravated sexual abuse and handed him a three-year prison sentence in 2017. The courts didn’t recognize the incident as rape, saying the girl wasn’t forced into the sexual act or overcome by fear. The judges also ordered the man to pay the child €3,000 ($3,600)….
Halal Bacon says
In the rapists defence, at least his mental ability was on par with his victim
mortimer says
Are we to understand that IT ISN’T “RAPE” when Muslims do it?
Allah decreed genocidal rape in Koran 4. 23-24 where it is halal to RAPE MARRIED CAPTIVES.
UN SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 1820
The U.N. Security Council adopted resolution 1820, which noted that “rape and other forms of sexual violence can constitute war crimes, crimes against humanity or a constitutive act with respect to genocide”.
However, the Koran ‘decrees’ CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.
Enslaving and then raping CAPTIVES is a crime against humanity and an act of genocide, but it is NORMATIVE ISLAM, rather than an aberration. Young Muslim males all know this and snigger about it among themselves.
gravenimage says
A lot of ten-year-olds have a better moral sense than this rapist.
mortimer says
Drawing closer to Allah through Rape: Rape is Prayer
From an August 2015 New York Times report:
In the moments before he raped the 12-year-old girl, the Islamic State fighter took the time to explain that what he was about to do was not a sin. Because the preteen girl practiced a religion other than Islam, the Quran not only gave him the right to rape her—it condoned and encouraged it.
He bound her hands and gagged her. Then he knelt beside the bed and prostrated himself in prayer before getting on top of her. When it was over, he knelt to pray again, bookending the rape with acts of religious devotion…. ‘ I kept telling him it hurts – please stop.”
Other girls testified to the same treatment, mixing sex and acts of devotion: “Every time that he came to rape me, he would pray. He kept telling me this is ibadah,” a term from Islamic scripture meaning “worship.” He said that raping me is his prayer to God. It’s allowed. It’s halal.
gravenimage says
Exactly, Mortimer–Muslims do not just condone rape, they *sacralize it*.
David says
This action is politely called ‘grooming’ in the UK. Seduction by drinks and drugs is the usual method. Grooming gangs are almost entirely muslim.
Rarely says
Just an animal. (My apologies to animals).
mortimer says
In Islam, rape is considered ‘IBADAH’ … worship to Allah.
Andre-Hans von Bremen says
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Stefan cel Mare says
So…soft power, long term, no violence. You don’t have long term, soft power is for people with decency. Violence is something you don’t have. But you will feel it.
Tony Holland says
Grow some balls someone in Finland,for Christs sake,grow some BALLS,If the spineless judiciary won’t give an appropriate sentence for this base filth committed by another subhuman cultist then surely there must be at least ONE man in your wretched country who will avenge the ‘baby’ victim of this beast,then once started don’t stop there, keep the momentum going until all SUBHUMANS are eradicated permanently from your country and EVERY other European nation,there is only one outcome,we are many,they,the subhumans,are few.
Suzan says
What if the 23 year old man non-Muslim?
Save Europe says
He’d now be on a sex offenders’ registry and doing ten years in prison.
vyx says
Exactly. So… there are laws for citizens and laws for Muslims. They are not the same.
Why are the people of Finland allowing this? Would they be OK if their ten year old daughter was raped? Or are they so brainwashed by the idea of multiculturalism that they would sacrifice her?
Are there no alpha males left in Western Europe to fight against this?
Save Europe says
Agreed Vyx. Very true indeed. I’m English. I have no kids, but if this happened to my nieces…….you can guess….
utis says
Am I wrong, or does Europe not follow liberal feminist ideas that sex with underage girls is rape, because the kids are not competent to give consent, even if you give them a whole lot of candy and dolls? Or do we have sharia standards here — two sets of rules for two different groups? Are the Finns saying it’s O.K. for any Finn to have sex with 10-yr old? Or is this decision just for guys named Mohamed? I guess this means your 10-yr old son isn’t safe either. Good luck, Finland.
By the way, if this guy is such a hot young thing, why could he only get a pre-teen?
gravenimage says
You don’t have to be a “liberal feminist” to believe that sex with a 10-year-old child is rape.
mortimer says
The feminists are silent because they are actually neo-Marxists.
Clearsighted says
It is important to put this in context. Even in the absence of Sharia influence, Finnish law is much more lenient that most similar crimes in the United States.
Under Finnish Criminal Law, the most serious sexual assault crime is Aggravated Rape 2 for which the MAXIMUM penalty in Finland is just TEN years.
The next category down is RAPE 1 which carries a MAXIMUM penalty of only SIX years. The difference between the two involves whether the degree to which the victim was injured during the attack.
With respect to children (the minimum age of consent is 16) there is the crime of Sexual Abuse of a Child 5 which has a maximum penalty of FOUR years. There is also the crime of Sexual Abuse of a Child 6 which has a maximum penalty of FOUR years. These are Finland’s equivalent to “statutory rape” in the United States.
Finally, we have this:
“Aggravated sexual abuse of a child 7 § (20.5.2011/540)
Applicable, if
the perpetrator has sexual intercourse with a child younger than 16 or with a child who is 16 but not yet 18 and the perpetrator is the victim’s parent or in a similar relationship with the child and lives in the same household.
In sexual abuse of a child
-the victim is a child to whose development the crime is likely to cause severe harm because of the child’s age or level of development
-the crime is committed in a way that is particularly humiliating
-the crime is likely to cause severe harm to the child because of the trust the child has for the perpetrator or because of the child’s dependency of the perpetrator
Also if the crime as a whole is aggravated, the perpetrator should be convicted for aggravated sexual abuse of a child and sentenced to a minimum of one year and a maximum of ten years in prison.
An attempt is also punishable.”
Therefore, in order to impose a penalty of greater than four years in the case of statutory rape, all of the elements of Aggravated Sexual Assault of a Child 7 would have to be proved.
Since the child here was 10 years old, she was BELOW the Finnish Age of Consent, hence the statement by the court that the sex was consensual was not a conclusion of law, but, rather means that the court concluded that all of the elements of Aggravated Sexual Abuse of Child 7 were not present in this case. Thus the maximum that could have been imposed would only have been four years anyway.
Not surprising that Finland is one of the most dangerous countries in Europe (other than Sweden). Forty-seven percent of women in Finland have reported being the victims of sexual assault. Not an enviable record.
gravenimage says
Thanks for the background in Finnish law, Clearsighted. This kind of leniency enables crime in general; it is absolutely suicidal when it comes to dealing with violent Muslims.
Jacqueline says
Carolyne, I think in this case the Finnish Supreme Court would be considered “pimps”. I am not familiar with the social norms in Finland, but I cannot fathom the reasoning of these supposedly learned jurists, however Clearsighted, in this comment section, gives an outstanding analysis of applicable Finnish law. Would their decision be different if the 10 year old child were a member of their own family? Now that the $3,000 fine is imposed, is anybody going to try to collect it?
Savvy Kafir says
At least there was some “public outrage “. I guess that’s something to be thankful for, these days.
It’s not the same as justice, though. But maybe this predator will get shanked in prison by some inmate who doesn’t like pedophiles.
Sheepdog says
This has less to do with sex than it does with degrading non muslims and submission. I’ll bet the girl’s family and neighbors understand that every time this pig walks past them.
somehistory says
Students who have taken courses on such things find out that rape is about the violence and submission, even when not carried out by a moslim creature. It is an exercise of power over a weaker person.
somehistory says
In the “logic” of the court, she wasn’t in “fear” or “forced,” but he still had to pay her money. Why money? What happens if he doesn’t pay it?
If they locked him up for rape instead of abuse, they’d soon have prisons full of male moslim creatures (they are not *men*) who have committed rape of children, young women, old women, etc. and they don’t want prisons full of these creatures. So they give him a lesser sentence and that way, the next guy who forces a child, there will be room for him at the prison and he can pay his fine.
islam is a beast from satan. All of those creatures who live by its evil will continue to commit these crimes against innocent children.
Terry Gain says
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Dale Carpenter says
We know what Islamic Law thinks about sex with a 10 year old but, since when have the civilized countries decided to abandon their long held convictions of protecting minors to honoring the medieval practices of child abuse?
gravenimage says
Finland: Muslim migrant has sex with 10-year-old girl, court says it’s not rape
……………………..
How can having sex with a little 10-year-old girl *not* be rape? She is incapable of giving consent at such a tender age.
Just glad to see that many decent Finns are outraged by this decision.
Clearsighted says
It is indeed hard to fathom. However, it’s not that sexual relations with a child below the age of consent is legal in Finland, It’s just that, in Finland, the term “rape” is reserved for sexual assaults involving violence or threats of violence or grievous bodily harm. Everything else is called “sexual abuse” of one type or another. So, sex with a child below the age of consent is not “rape” AS DEFINED IN FINNISH LAW but it is a crime. In any event, the penalties are way too low by American standards for sure.
Clearsighted says
More precisely, sexual relations with a child under the age of consent which does not involve violence or threats of violence or grievous bodily harm is not “rape” as defined in Finnish law.
Lydia Church says
When they start interpreting the laws according to sharia law instead of the law of the native land, then you know it is just a matter of time till the whole country caves to islam. Since when do countries judge migrant crimes by the laws of the migrant community rather than by the laws of the country they reside in? That in itself is another attack on national sovereignty.
Matthieu Baudin says
Just reflect for a moment upon this; if a Finnish man were to move to any North African or Middle Eastern Country and have sex with a local Muslim 10 year old and was caught, he would not remain alive for long.
Linda says
It is best to give Muslims a wide berth and not be around them any longer than one absolutely has to be.
gravenimage says
And this gets harder and harder the more Muslims are alowed into the West, Linda.
Linda says
I know it does, but nothing is off limits for them, it seems. You have to keep your men, women, children, pets, farm animals, and as gross as it may sound, your deceased away from them. I saw one video on the internet in which a Muslim was in a store trying to kiss and fondle a mannequin in broad daylight, so even if you have a hole in the wall, if you know a Muslim is going to be there, you need to patch up the hole, or God only knows what may come into their mind to do to the hole in the wall. Such a scourge on God’s green earth!
gravenimage says
All true, Linda. The “Prophet” himself engaged in the kidnapping and rape of Infidels and their use as sex slaves.
gravenimage says
allowed
mortimer says
What we non-Muslims find most disturbing is how ISIS fighters, capable of the repeated rapes of helpless schoolgirls, and of every other conceivable kind of cruelty toward non-Muslim men as well as women, unperturbedly violate by their behavior everything we regard as humanly decent, yet are terribly worried about only one thing: breaking even a single one of the many Islamic regulations of life, whatever its content. And when it comes to the rules regulating sexual slavery, they appear to worry most about the duty a Muslim man has to make sure that before having intercourse with one of his slave women, she not be pregnant. The origin of the rule is disputed, but most likely it once had to do with ensuring that a slave girl could both continue to work and to provide sexual gratification – hence the recommendation to her owner to practice al-azl, or coitus interruptus. But once the rule is set in stone, its origins do not matter.
IS buyers of slave girls demand assurances that the girls not be pregnant, and once they’ve bought a slave-girl, these serial rapists insist on feeding their girls contraceptives of every variety, that is, they keep them in re-sellable condition.
Jokuvaan says
Semantics.
The real scandal here is that the perp is imprisoned for only 3 years while according to law it could be 10 years.
How would 3 years for rape be any different?
Chris Malan says
There are many cases where the legal system is not the way to go. This is not so only in Finland. What is more, those who perpetrate these travesties of moral justice (judges, lawyers, magistrates) do so with impunity. They will never be held accountable.
Only if these people (legal system) know they won’t get away with it will they stop. Make no mistake, the legal system won’t hold them accountable.
Politicianophobia says
They need to go back to their shithole countries and stay there. This piece of filth should be hung by the neck until dead. So may lives are being ruined by the religion of peace and evil politicians. This story makes me sick. What the hell has happened to the world when people stand by and let this evil take over, has everyone lost their mind?
Linda says
I’m trying to figure that out too. It is unfathomable to think that the world watches all this and does nothing.
Carolyne says
So the Supreme Court of Finland declared this little girl a prostitute by giving her $3,000 for a sex act. I declare the members of the Finish Supreme Court to be prostitutes.
Jacqueline says
Carolyne, I think in this case the Finnish Supreme Court would be considered “pimps”. I am not familiar with the social norms in Finland, but I cannot fathom the reasoning of these supposedly learned jurists. Would their decision be different if the 10 year old child were a member of their own family? Now that the $3,000 fine is imposed, is anybody going to try to collect it?
The crusader says
Anyone who thinks sex with babies is ok should be sealed up on a ship that is going to be used for naval target practice let them go down to the deepest part of the ocean.